Hello, I've recently come into the world of android. I have always been a linux advocate, however hadn't had the money until recently to buy an android phone. I have Sprints HTC Hero. And believe it or not I really don't like it lol. I mean not android...Android is wonderful! However after i saw the original design of the HTC hero, i felt that i should have been getting that. It just looks better imo.
Anyways! down to business I've been looking into rooting and possibly getting a new rom on this baby. The reason behind this being..i simply want 2.1 firmware, and im sick of limitations on a linux platform....it's just sickening... to even think about that.
Firmware Version is 1.5
Software Version is 1.56.65.2
I have software i've paid for on this phone.... and applications i would want to go through the trouble of RE-downloading..
For example, if any of you are familiar with the latest version of chompSMS I donated to get rid of advertisements....would i have to donate AGAIN to rid of these?
What about better keyboard which i have installed? Would i have to rebuy it?...How about GDE?
I'm sure you get the point of what im asking. How the heck do i save what is mine on this phone before taking the next big step.
Then there is another issue... I've heard alot of roms are really kinda...unstable. I need a phone...that works...most features included. Whats the best Eclair rom for 2.1 or what not. I kinda wanted something like the nexus one rom. But please tell me which one you guys would prefer due to usability...
Finally...How the heck am I supposed to root? Any advice? How am I to flash without losing anything too important.
First, any application you pay for through the market, you will NOT have to pay for again. You simply re-download via the market. All (I think) of the 2.1 roms out now (Damage Control, Darch, Fresh).
If you don't want to re-download, I highly suggest getting "Titanium Backup." You have to get root first, but after that (and I HIGHLY recommend the donate version, its a wonderful program) to run "batch" operations. I just backup all user apps + data and it has worked flawlessly almost every time.
As far as getting root... are you using windows or mac?
Either way... SEARCH. There are tons of guides on this forum, for both windows and mac. It is VERY simple. Took me less than 30 minutes, including downloading the necessary software.
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Well i'm using a Mac primarily. But i have a windows PC right next to me, and a linux net book in the background here.
I'd prefer to use the mac but which ever is easiest.
By rooting am I voiding a warranty of any kind? Like the boot loader perhaps?
If so can I unroot if i ever had to go to sprint for an issue?
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Well i'm using a Mac primarily. But i have a windows PC right next to me, and a linux net book in the background here.
I'd prefer to use the mac but which ever is easiest.
By rooting am I voiding a warranty of any kind? Like the boot loader perhaps?
If so can I unroot if i ever had to go to sprint for an issue?
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Yes, by rooting you are technically voiding the warranty, however if you ever have to send your phone back to sprint, you can "RUU" your phone back to 100% stock. There used to be alot of errors, leading to "bricked" phones, however this has been solved. So you CAN go back to stock if need be.
I personally have no experience with mac, so I'd say (with a strong biased opinion) to use windows.
I rooted using the "as2root" exploit and it was very easy. I mean if you can type in a command prompt exactly what you see, it couldn't be any easier.
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Here's the method I did for root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
XxsydenxX said:
Hello, I've recently come into the world of android. I have always been a linux advocate, however hadn't had the money until recently to buy an android phone. I have Sprints HTC Hero. And believe it or not I really don't like it lol. I mean not android...Android is wonderful! However after i saw the original design of the HTC hero, i felt that i should have been getting that. It just looks better imo.
Anyways! down to business I've been looking into rooting and possibly getting a new rom on this baby. The reason behind this being..i simply want 2.1 firmware, and im sick of limitations on a linux platform....it's just sickening... to even think about that.
Firmware Version is 1.5
Software Version is 1.56.65.2
I have software i've paid for on this phone.... and applications i would want to go through the trouble of RE-downloading..
For example, if any of you are familiar with the latest version of chompSMS I donated to get rid of advertisements....would i have to donate AGAIN to rid of these?
What about better keyboard which i have installed? Would i have to rebuy it?...How about GDE?
I'm sure you get the point of what im asking. How the heck do i save what is mine on this phone before taking the next big step.
Then there is another issue... I've heard alot of roms are really kinda...unstable. I need a phone...that works...most features included. Whats the best Eclair rom for 2.1 or what not. I kinda wanted something like the nexus one rom. But please tell me which one you guys would prefer due to usability...
Finally...How the heck am I supposed to root? Any advice? How am I to flash without losing anything too important.
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Quick answer about the paid apps is that you don't need to buy them again. Google saves that info on their servers and you can just download them again for free once you flash to 2.1. On the other hand, if you had something like a high score saved on the phone in a game then you are more than likely going to lose that (as my wife recently found out when she reinstalled bebbled)
As for stable/functional 2.1 roms. As of the newest leak that Damageless put out they are extremely stable and fully functional. I'm running Fresh 2.0d and have no problems. I also put it on my wife's hero and she loves it. She was a big fan of fresh 1.1 so when she heard there was a new one she needed to have it. Really, any of the roms based on the newest sprint leak are about equal in stability and you can check out Flipz recent post on benchmarks. You might find a few things removed in a specific rom but generally you can just put them back in if you miss them.
Finally, for rooting there is a perfect rooting guide on this site that I used with no problems. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291 The only thing you could change on that is substitute the latest version of RA recovery image which is 1.6.2. Found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4898505&postcount=1
Once you are rooted and have the recovery image flashed you can do nandroid backups. MAKE SURE YOU ALWAYS DO A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE FLASHING ANYTHING. Then save it to your computer. This is an image of your phone that will let you go back to that point in time if something gets messed up.
For sms they will be saved in the nandroid but if you want to carry them over to the new rom you should download a program like "SMS backup & restore" from the market. It turns them into a .xml file that can me saved to your comp.
Lastly, if you have personal files on the phone I would suggest making a manual backup to your computer because nandroid doesn't backup the sdcard.
Hope this helps, feel free to hit me up with other questions/concerns.
Ok, finally. I've taken a day to think about it and I simply want too root my HTC hero to get it's full potential...Plus there is pretty much no risk to simply gaining root access...right?. If i do this will i get OTA updates....after all...sprint hero is expecting the 2.1 update in like 2 days.
XxsydenxX said:
Ok, finally. I've taken a day to think about it and I simply want too root my HTC hero to get it's full potential...Plus there is pretty much no risk to simply gaining root access...right?. If i do this will i get OTA updates....after all...sprint hero is expecting the 2.1 update in like 2 days.
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Once rooted you will *not* receive official OTA updates.
However, wait about a day or two after an official update and someone on here will have posted a dump of it and someone will have made it better (i.e. compatible with our root exploits.)
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Im very new to rooting and rom switching so please go easy
I just tried the cyanogen mod 6 for my nexus 1 and i have a few questions about it.
First, i cant really see anything new accept a few things in the cyanogen menu under "settings". Second, i cant see a speed increase either. Stock is actually working faster!
After all the amazing stuff i keep hearing about cyanogen, i just wanna know, what is it about this one (cm6) that im missing??? I just wanna appreciate it like everyone else
I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
Personally i want a ROM that is more closer to stock as possible, and i really have no need for certain tweaks really. I used the 5.0.8 N1 quite abit before i went over to Froyo. It was allright for me but later on i really like stock based ROM's.
i agree. its seems as though the stock roms work best with froyo (for now anyway) i have been using a rom called "frf_blackbar_v3_signed" and its working great.
Since im new to this stuff (coming from an iphone!) i just figured i was missing out on something right under my eyes! I know its a new rom and it will get better too.
Have faith and give CM some time
They've been working on it for two weeks and its only their first official froyo release(RC1). Im sure things will pick up and get more exciting soon.
I also tested the performance of stock vs cm, and they didn't differ by that much...
Cyanogen has tons of additional features. What I recommended you do is look at his changelog.
He has listed all the new goodies.
Personally I like the kernal which allows overclocking, the music app which has support for flac right out the box, and the renderer which switches the screen color to save you battery.
I will pay attention to Cyanogen ROM for sure..
yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)
Sindroid said:
I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
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Exact same here. Went from CM6 to Geo411m's ROM yesterday. Its fast, I know what I have, and battery life is good. Tried LeoFroYo this morning but there was just too much there for what I need. A quick Nandroid restore to Geo411m and that's where I'm staying for now
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
blunted09 said:
yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)
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kernel is the guts of your system
online kitchen is where users can create their own roms
new radios add new features that some roms depend on
i don't recommend you messing with any of these things until you do a lot of reading
from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?
not necesarily, i nandroid before i do any mods to my system just in case i trash it i can boot it right back up just like it was 5 mins prior
If you truly brick your phone, you won't be able to boot into recovery to restore. You do a nandroid once you have your rom setup the way you want, so when you restore you go back to that point. Cyanogen is one of the best, if not the best. The man went through it with Google, just to bless us with his gift, show some RESPECT!!!!! I just flashed his latest & greatest, and I love it. Although im not a fan of white status bar. I like nothing stock, but I flashed black status bar, and pushed black goggle search box, and rm the apps I didn't want, like twitter and gmail. It's a keeper, and will only get better.The more ability to customize the better. That's why I root in the first place. Options, options, options, I love it.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?
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You don't brick your phone by flashing a new ROM that doesn't contain radio. You don't brick your phone with almost anything that you do, in the worst case - you're left with a phone that doesn't load OS and needs wipe+reflash, and you lose all your settings and data.
But:
You DO brick your phone by flashing the wrong radio / interrupting radio flash before it finishes.
As with the rest of your questions: I suggest you use this forum and Google and read a lot. That would answer your questions.
Also, I was a user of CyanogenMod on 2.1, kept it until LeoFroyo hit 1.2-beta, flashed, liked, and now I'm with Enomther, who has a fast, stable ROM with most of the features Cyanogen has, and it covers everything I want/need. I'll wait for CyanogenMod to integrate Apps2SDExt into framework, and then compare it again.
Folks: I have HERO and downloaded official 2.1 update earlier this summer. I was really hoping that issues like dialer lag and general "under-performance" feel on HERO would improve but I am still disappointed. I have still lot of time before I get eligible for a phone upgrade. I have no experience with rooting or custom ROMs. Would a HTC sense-less ROM help my case? I love the form-factor of this phone but lag just kills the experience.
I would really appreciate if someone can point me to step-by-step procedure on how to get a ROM on HERO that works lag-free.
thanks
keep it stock if you like. thats how i did it at first. i rooted the stock stuff and deleted tons of sprint bloatware and the other useless apps; peep, teeter, gmail, socialnetworkprovider.apk...tons of stuff. after doing ONLY that, my device was faster and more responsive. ive never used a 'killer' of any sorts. linux is smart and you dont need 'killers'. of course, others may argue differently.
so head over to the dev forum and learn how to root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674833
edit: read, read, read. thats what i was told to do and i did. a lot of prep was required before rooting but if you follow the directions, it will go very smoothly
In my opinion, the two fastest ROMs here are
Darchdroid 2.8 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
and Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722122
But know that these two ROMs are based off Android only, and don't have the HTC Sense user-interface (in other words, they will look different than stock and have some different apps and features).
But first you will need to root your phone following these steps here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
After you root your phone, NANDROID BACKUP! Then you can try deleting apps like the post above mentions. See this post here about deleting apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581976
If just doing that isn't good enough for you, try one of the two ROMs I posted above. I think you'll find that rooting your phone is a very wise and eye-opening decision
Lol chromiumleaf you didn't recommend the ROM in your sig
OP if you are willing to root and still want Sense UI, nfinitefx45's stock ROM is for you. If you follow the instructions you will basically run an over clocked (if you choose, but recommended), streamlined version of stock ROM + apps2sd (your choice, but recommended)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267
thank you all for quick replies and helpful pointers to the resources. Looks like rooting + deleting apps is the first step. I will try that. Btw hadnt relaized that custom ROMs is a world on its own
It sure it as I have also been reading, and one more thing incase you did not know and I don't believe it was mentioned in this thread you need to not be on the 2.1 .6 firmware, you need to downgrade to the .5 firmware to be able to root, I know it is in the instructions pasted by other but was just giving you a reminder incase you still have not done anything. Now if you did finally Root I would like to know how it went, as I am also almost ready to Root, tired of mine going into sleep mode and not responding, anyways it has been a while since you were suppose to have rooted, just curious how it went and how was your experience, and if you did finally go to a custom Rom which one did you go with??
don_walio said:
thank you all for quick replies and helpful pointers to the resources. Looks like rooting + deleting apps is the first step. I will try that. Btw hadnt relaized that custom ROMs is a world on its own
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don_walio said:
Folks: I have HERO and downloaded official 2.1 update earlier this summer. I was really hoping that issues like dialer lag and general "under-performance" feel on HERO would improve but I am still disappointed. I have still lot of time before I get eligible for a phone upgrade. I have no experience with rooting or custom ROMs. Would a HTC sense-less ROM help my case? I love the form-factor of this phone but lag just kills the experience.
I would really appreciate if someone can point me to step-by-step procedure on how to get a ROM on HERO that works lag-free.
thanks
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if you want to stay close to stock but be rooted id say use the stock rooted .6 rom with apps2sd. you could also use an oc kernel but i never found it did much for my phone. always use advance task killer and use a memory manager like autokiller and set it to aggressive or ultimate. my hero runs pretty good now. if your daring you could try the new froyo rom too.
THIS IS FOR THE 10.1 LTE tab only, NOT THE WI-FI VERSION!!! I've looked all around several forums and could not find this posted anywhere. I came across this through a friend who was kind enough to hook me up with some goodness. FIRST: I TAKE ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIT FOR THIS LEAK. This did NOT come from some awesome source of mine, I simply stumbled across it and it's AWESOME! So, I thought I would pass on the goodness to whoever wanted it. This is a HoneyComb 3.2 TouchWiz UX EI03 leak build for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE. It is a factory Odin image tar file that is unrooted and bloated However, once you flash it, simply odin the recovery that is linked below (courtesy of Pershoot) and then in recovery, flash the new 3.0.7 Superuser zip that is also linked below (courtesy of Chains) and you will have root. When you flash the superuser zip the first time in recovery, you will probably get an error. Just flash it again and it should work. You will need 7zip or something similar to extract the tar files from the links below. I like this MUCH better than the HC 3.1 that came with my tab. If this helped you out or you like it or whatever, be sure to hit the thanks button!
***And for some awesome step by step instructions on how to flash this, refer to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19901234&postcount=36 (Courtesy of Muzzy996, thanks bro!)***
HC 3.2 TW UX EI03 leak odin tar for the 10.1 LTE tab (no credit to me at all) - http://www.multiupload.com/EML345D42J <---------flash via ODIN!!!!!! But you must extract the tar file with 7zip or the like
Pershoot has also made an awesome OC kernel to go with this build: http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=2448 (Thanks Pershoot!)
CWM recovery 5.0.2.7 odin tar (Thanks Pershoot!) - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20070269/recovery-cwm_5.0.2.7-sam-tab-10.1_lte_odin.tar-112611.zip
Superuser 3.0.7 cwm flashable zip (Thanks Chains!) - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20070269/Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip **You will also need to install busybox. There are a few free busybox installer apps on the market. Just make sure you install it to /system/xbin
Wow, finally something new for the LTE tab. Thanks so much for sharing...can't wait to try it!
emplox said:
Wow, finally something new for the LTE tab. Thanks so much for sharing...can't wait to try it!
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Yea, it will be up in about two and a half hours. It's awesome! Way better than the 3.1 that came with it IMO. It's a really awesome TouchWiz version. And I have always HATED TouchWiz, so that just shows you it's really nice......I love it.
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Alright guys, I decided to make this a priority. It will be up in about 10 minutes
Link is up guys. You shouldn't have any problems with it, it worked fine for me.
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I can confirm that its a working ROM 3.2 Touchwiz LTE. I haven't tried any of the additional files as I wanted to make sure its stable for me. Thanks for the upload. I'll be playing with this for a bit.
Edit: OC Kernel link broken at the moment
eXiled Killah said:
I can confirm that its a working ROM 3.2 Touchwiz LTE. I haven't tried any of the additional files as I wanted to make sure its stable for me. Thanks for the upload. I'll be playing with this for a bit.
Edit: OC Kernel link broken at the moment
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Yea, it's really nice. Just follow the instructions in the OP for root. And the kernel link is fixed. It's a much better kernel as well.
This'll be a noob question but do I need to be rooted to load this? If so can someone point me to the proper root thread. All the ones listed as LTE seem to dead end.
Thanks
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wilmesg said:
This'll be a noob question but do I need to be rooted to load this? If so can someone point me to the proper root thread. All the ones listed as LTE seem to dead end.
Thanks
Sent from my SCH-I905 using XDA App
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No, you do not need root to access download mode or use odin. Do you follow me?
Meh
Hmm, on the fence now wondering if I should make the jump to 3.2 when Im already satisfied with how I have ADW launcher EX running in 3.1.
muzzy996 said:
Hmm, on the fence now wondering if I should make the jump to 3.2 when Im already satisfied with how I have ADW launcher EX running in 3.1.
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I tried it for only half a day. I found it to be a bit too heavy for the tablet as it is right now. For me it was laggy ... blatantly. Even my videos were lagging out and they were smooth on stock 3.1. Perhaps this is an earlier build... not optimized. I loaded up the OC Kernel and pushed it to 1.4 but it didn't smooth anything out. I ended up reloading the factory stock EG01 ROM and even that untouched version was smoother. I'm back on LiquidSpeed @1.4. Everything from the links above works. I didn't have any problems loading it; its just not smooth for me. Probably a good starting place for developers and I'm willing to continue trying out whatever gets posted now that I know how to restore. Thanks for the posting though, keep it coming
eXiled Killah said:
I tried it for only half a day. I found it to be a bit too heavy for the tablet as it is right now. For me it was laggy ... blatantly. Even my videos were lagging out and they were smooth on stock 3.1. Perhaps this is an earlier build... not optimized. I loaded up the OC Kernel and pushed it to 1.4 but it didn't smooth anything out. I ended up reloading the factory stock EG01 ROM and even that untouched version was smoother. I'm back on LiquidSpeed @1.4. Everything from the links above works. I didn't have any problems loading it; its just not smooth for me. Probably a good starting place for developers and I'm willing to continue trying out whatever gets posted now that I know how to restore. Thanks for the posting though, keep it coming
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Wow, I guess it's just different results for different people. I absolutely love this build! It is much smoother and faster and more responsive for me than liquidspeed was. From the transitions all the way to the keyboard, more responsive, less glitchy and much smoother. Of course, I rooted and debloated it right away. And then it got even better when I installed zepplinrox's supercharger script and kickasskernelizer. I also used the zipalign script from liquidspeed. So, with the exception of not being deodexed, it has all the same mods and features that liquidspeed has. I will NOT be going back to 3.1, I am very pleased with this. Liquidspeed was great, but this is much better for me.
Meh
Cool. Maybe someone will find the time to post a ROM based off of it (hint)...
muzzy996 said:
Cool. Maybe someone will find the time to post a ROM based off of it (hint)...
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hint, hint....
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kidserious said:
Wow, I guess it's just different results for different people. I absolutely love this build! It is much smoother and faster and more responsive for me than liquidspeed was. From the transitions all the way to the keyboard, more responsive, less glitchy and much smoother. Of course, I rooted and debloated it right away. And then it got even better when I installed zepplinrox's supercharger script and kickasskernelizer. I also used the zipalign script from liquidspeed. So, with the exception of not being deodexed, it has all the same mods and features that liquidspeed has. I will NOT be going back to 3.1, I am very pleased with this. Liquidspeed was great, but this is much better for me.
Meh
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Did you just use titanium to debloat? Also can you list what apps you debloated so we can make sure we don't remove an app that is required.
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hint, hint....
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Did you just use titanium to debloat? Also can you list what apps you debloated so we can make sure we don't remove an app that is required.
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Wow, it was a lot. I just removed every system app that I knew I wouldn't use. If you're not sure about removing a certain app, just make a backup of it with titanium backup. After you remove it, if the tab starts acting funny or you realize you needed that app, restore it. I did use titanium backup to debloat it.
Meh
I do agree...3.2 so far is much smoother for me. I came from the Liquidspeed rom as well. I am rooted and on the 1.4ghz kernel now. It flies....I'm happy I upgraded.
emplox said:
I do agree...3.2 so far is much smoother for me. I came from the Liquidspeed rom as well. I am rooted and on the 1.4ghz kernel now. It flies....I'm happy I upgraded.
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Awesome!! I would suggest, if you're inclined, to install zepplinrox's supercharger script and kickasskernelizer. It's an added boost.
Meh
emplox said:
I do agree...3.2 so far is much smoother for me. I came from the Liquidspeed rom as well. I am rooted and on the 1.4ghz kernel now. It flies....I'm happy I upgraded.
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Wow. Is it possible that I missed something?? Or messed something up?? Going to have to reload it and try again....
I did the ROM first, then the recovery, the flashed the superuser and the OC kernel... bad order??
eXiled Killah said:
Wow. Is it possible that I missed something?? Or messed something up?? Going to have to reload it and try again....
I did the ROM first, then the recovery, the flashed the superuser and the OC kernel... bad order??
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No, that's how I did it. But remember, I debloated a lot of garbage. This is a full factory odin image from vzw so that means a lot of bloatware. I also added in the mods and features that liquidspeed has. Supercharger script, zipalign script, it's debloated with pershoot's OC as well. And, I even added in the kickasskernelizer script as well. Loving it.
Meh
kidserious said:
No, that's how I did it. But remember, I debloated a lot of garbage. This is a full factory odin image from vzw so that means a lot of bloatware. I also added in the mods and features that liquidspeed has. Supercharger script, zipalign script, it's debloated with pershoot's OC as well. And, I even added in the kickasskernelizer script as well. Loving it.
Meh
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Noob in training here. I don't mind trying any/all of this, but you're talking a language I don't understand. Are these things I can find and download/install?? I have pershoot's OC kernel installed.
I just purchased a Motorola Droid 3 XT862. It came loaded with a whole lot of Verizon stuff, and assumes I'm living in the USA. I'm living in Australia and would really prefer to have a choice of locale, and just get all of the pre-installed stuff off there because I'm not gonna use most it. From what I can tell, my only option is to flash the phone with a different firmware.
While I'm aware of the additional features of a couple of the mods such as Cyanogen, because this is my very first Android phone and I'd just like to play around with the stock OS before making any decisions regarding mods, I'd prefer to just stick with vanilla Gingerbread.
So my question is, for someone who has no idea what they're doing, how do I go about putting the stock Android OS on my phone?
Honestly CM is as close for Gingerbread you will get. There are some good stripped down ROMs based off of stock.
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You should try Ice Cream Sandwich.
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I'm not quite ready to try Ice Cream Sandwich just yet.
Do you think it simply isn't possible to get a stock version of Android for my phone?
I use Mavrom myself http://www.droidforums.net/forum/maverick-rom-d3/200510-maverick-rom-v3-5-droid-3-a.html
use it with a different launcher to get rid of the blur launcher, and the rom is pretty close to stock android. You can choose google mucisc and stock messaging too.
No verizon-crap either.
If you don't want mavrom i heard liberty is close to stock too, but never tried it myself and not sure if's being updated still
I'm not sure what the launcher is, sorry. I literally have no idea what I'm doing.
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I'm not sure what the launcher is, sorry. I literally have no idea what I'm doing.
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Well, motorola uses blur launcher.. which is basically the way your homescreen looks (=desktop) and your app drawer. So if you don't want blur use something like go launcher, or stick with blur if you don't care.
You can use morelocale2 (app) to choose your locale.
You could also just root and use the de-bloat script (stickied) to remove all the bloat-ware
You should root your phone and install CyanogenMod 7. It's not ICS and it's quite stable. It's an AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROM so all those useless apps (bloatware) will be removed.
The link to the thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308924
I'm not sure if Australia is GSM, but here's the link for the patch if it is. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357350
I have not tested the patch as I live in the US
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I'm not sure what the launcher is, sorry. I literally have no idea what I'm doing.
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I'll give a counter point to all those saying "root your phone" or flash this ROM or that ROM. Since you say, " I literally have no idea what I'm doing" and elsewhere you say this is your first Android my recommendation would be to just stick with stock for a while and learn how things work before diving into rooting, custom ROM's etc.
In the meantime, one pretty harmless thing you can do is to try different launchers. These give you a somewhat different look and feel to the "desktop" but since they are really an app, you can easily get back to stock by just uninstalling it. That would be much more of a pain free way to go while you try things out and learn. I would ignore those telling you to root at this point.
The only reason I would root is because the battery life is better when you make some tweaks that are only available on root. Even if you just tweak the stock ROM with a couple things it can be worth it.
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I'll give a counter point to all those saying "root your phone" or flash this ROM or that ROM. Since you say, " I literally have no idea what I'm doing" and elsewhere you say this is your first Android my recommendation would be to just stick with stock for a while and learn how things work before diving into rooting, custom ROM's etc.
In the meantime, one pretty harmless thing you can do is to try different launchers. These give you a somewhat different look and feel to the "desktop" but since they are really an app, you can easily get back to stock by just uninstalling it. That would be much more of a pain free way to go while you try things out and learn. I would ignore those telling you to root at this point.
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This was my first android phone and the first thing I did was root it. With pete's tool it couldn't be easier
so is there still no way to flash back to stock if you do the stage upgrade to 906?
Hey guys! I normally probably wouldn't have made a new thread for this ROM that I built because there are already several rooted stock ROMs already out there, However this turned out to be the fastest stock ROM I've ever used on my dinc. It is surprisingly smooth and fast so I decided I would share my little penicillin with the world haha. Since I have already built the first version and test run it on my phone I figured I would upload my first version and then tweak it from there. Screen shots will come later and I will be happy to trouble shoot if I can. Keep in mind that when I booted this on my phone the first time it sat on the HTC splash for about a minute or more and then the boot animation seemed to freeze during boot but these are all normal and do not require a battery pull, it will all be fine
What this ROM is:
Based off of OTA 4.08.605.2 (not most recent)
Completely Deodexed
Optimized for Speed
Edited to allow custom boot animations to be dropped into data/local
Bloatware removed on V. 1.2.0
System Update popup removed on V. 1.1.4
System Apps updated to most recent in V. 1.1.4
Stock Kernel replaced with 10042012 gingertiny kernel in V. 1.3.2
Chad's Incredicontrol app baked into V. 1.3.3 to give users access to kernel controls
Quick Settings added in version 1.4.0 thanks to sk806!
Support for TWRP 2.3.1 added in version 1.4.0 with help from cmlusco!
Advanced Power Menu added in version 1.4.3 thanks to wdfowty!
Annoying Droid start up sound removed in 1.4.3
Build.prop edited in v1.4.4 to remove update notification
This ROM is currently based off of the 4.08.605.2 OTA which means that it is not "current." Because of the bugs that were found to exist in the most recent OTA, I've decided to keep with 4.08.605.2 and continue to optimize it and make it a community favorite. I will do try to make this ROM the best it can be by implementing:
Custom boot animation
Hardcore modding which may occur someday:
Native Screenshot
Add Crt-off animation to ROM
These things will not necessarily happen in that order but they are things that I intend to be working on.
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Version 1.4.4 from Dev-Host - Can be flashed over 1.2.0 or later
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MD5: 5a33eb519907093b34a76ee20ad0ff7b
Older Versions
Version 1.4.3 from dev-host - Can be flashed over 1.2.0 or later
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MD5: 758a839821cc7fce50c147392f9c48b6
Version 1.4.0 from dev-host - Can be flashed over 1.2.0 or later
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MD5: 4847e030695c369e2b1d458bda099081
This can be flashed over 1.2.0 or later
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MD5: 93660b426d8ce47be6aaa1131192dc89
You may flash this over 1.2.0
Mirror on MediaFire
MD5: 85c1301aa695c70ded8f2a8b4e4c6cf7
Version 1.2.0 from mediafire - I recommend a clean install of this ROM
MD5: d8b4ab55e05024e07e474454a41f094d
Version 1.1.4 from mediafire - You may flash over from earlier versions to this one
MD5: 3afeb7710e5453c5e9931349befd2ec7
Version 1.0.0 from mediafire
MD5: 4b5a77bf222fc5c8f4632b4bf385dd7f
Feel free to throw suggestions out there but this is my first ROM so I am not sure how much I will be able to accomplish beyond what I already know.
(standard disclaimer about flashing at your own risk)
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Shano56 said:
I'm allergic to penicillin
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Go ahead and try it out anyway it will make you feel like a rebel
prompted with system update after install
localceleb said:
prompted with system update after install
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I will be uploading an update later today with that fixed but at the moment that is normal. It is annoying but like I said the update that I upload later should have that fixed.
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Go ahead and try it out anyway it will make you feel like a rebel
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haha I would try it, but I don't like stock good work though!
Will the update have the new OTA baked into the ROM and the bloatware removed?
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haha I would try it, but I don't like stock good work though!
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Oh I understand then, and Thanks!
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Will the update have the new OTA baked into the ROM and the bloatware removed?
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I am currently uploading a fix to the system update popup. I had one that had a lot of the bloatware removed but I ran into problems so this one just has the fix for the annoying popup. I am in the process of fixing those problems and might be able to get another update up tonight but if not it will probably be ready at some point tomorrow. I also have a copy of the newest OTA so I will start working on that after I am done with the fixes for this one. The reason I am doing this one first is because I have heard that the newest has issues with rebooting for no reason over night and so forth and I would rather give you a choice to have either this one or the newer one.
The version I am uploading right now is 1.1.4 and should be able to be flashed over anything you currently have running. I would recommend making a nandroid first though. and you will probably have to download all of the newest versions of the system apps again unless you make backups to quickly reinstall the newest versions. Thanks for trying out my ROM!
Personalty I think I would just wait on updating the Rom to the newest OTA and work on what's working. Nobody seems to have found the problem with the 2 am reboot and there are already some folks working on it but even then there seems to be other problems. Here is a post about other problems encountered with the new ota.
The recent Verizon update is a big, fat failure! At 18 months old, my HTC Incredible never had a single problem until after Verizon installed the recent update v4.08.605.15 (without asking me first). I've had NOTHING but problems since installation approximately 2 weeks ago. With a bevy of new problems surfacing daily, my phone is no longer reliable & thus serves no useful purpose.
The following is a partial list of the problems I've encountered since installation: on a daily basis, phone repeatedly powers on & off all on its own; an incessant, strange ring developed 2 days ago & it continues intermittently (I'm not familiar with this ring & it is not a sound that I set up myself. It drones on and on even when I'm talking on the phone!) phone randomly freezes up several times each day; after appearing on the first boot after installation, an unknown "live" wallpaper destroyed my home screen & disappeared all of my icons; I suddenly stopped receiving text messages regardless of size; and, as a last resort, I've had to remove & reinstall the battery at least 30 times.
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Personalty I think I would just wait on updating the Rom to the newest OTA and work on what's working. Nobody seems to have found the problem with the 2 am reboot and there are already some folks working on it but even then there seems to be other problems. Here is a post about other problems encountered with the new ota.
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I agree. I will fiddle around with the newest OTA but I feel like if verizon/HTC can't get it right then we are all better off with this version. Even the radio that was released with the newest OTA is worse. I tried it when cmlusco pulled it from the latest and my service coverage dropped off considerably and there were no other noticeable improvements. I don't know where they went wrong but I would say they could have stuck with this one or at least waited until they had something concrete and actually better than the last before they released it. It's not as though we were all just waiting around for a new software to come OTA. I'd rather spend my time being anxious about JB being ported to the dinc ^_^
hey nschiwy! .. i really think that sense 1.0 runs the smoothest and all that. but cant we have like a variety of ported sense 1.0 themes for
the inc. i fail to find themes for 1.0 other than the warm theme. i had a desire before the inc and absolutely loved this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052761 due to the elegant theming .. can you port this theme to the inc ? ..i requested in the themes section too but no progress on it
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one question, there is not much difference between the stock+ 3.01 and sparkplug
right?
yankies77 said:
hey nschiwy! .. i really think that sense 1.0 runs the smoothest and all that. but cant we have like a variety of ported sense 1.0 themes for
the inc. i fail to find themes for 1.0 other than the warm theme. i had a desire before the inc and absolutely loved this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052761 due to the elegant theming .. can you port this theme to the inc ? ..i requested in the themes section too but no progress on it
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one question, there is not much difference between the stock+ 3.01 and sparkplug
right?
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I will look into the theming. This is essentially my first time getting into any kind of android development so I am taking it one step at a time. It seems like the ROM you pointed me to that you had for your desire might actually be a plain GB port or CM7 with a sense launcher and the lense unlock screen set as default. as far as stock+ it very well could be the same as sparkplug but I don't remember. I thought that I had tried all of the stock based ROMs and was fed up with how much lag they had and when I wound up with mine being smooth I wanted to share it with the community. If it is the same I apologize for the redundancy, maybe after I get a little more experience under my belt mine will be a bit different. In the mean time, cmlusco's touch of blue is based on stock and lightly themed so you might enjoy his ROM as well. Thanks for the feedback and trying it out!
I really enjoy mainly stock ROMs but do find the quick settings tab on the pull down bar and all of the shutdown options when you hold the power off button very useful. I'm running this ROM currently and haven't had any issues or found any bugs but have only had it up for a few hours.
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nschiwy said:
I will look into the theming. This is essentially my first time getting into any kind of android development so I am taking it one step at a time. It seems like the ROM you pointed me to that you had for your desire might actually be a plain GB port or CM7 with a sense launcher and the lense unlock screen set as default. as far as stock+ it very well could be the same as sparkplug but I don't remember. I thought that I had tried all of the stock based ROMs and was fed up with how much lag they had and when I wound up with mine being smooth I wanted to share it with the community. If it is the same I apologize for the redundancy, maybe after I get a little more experience under my belt mine will be a bit different. In the mean time, cmlusco's touch of blue is based on stock and lightly themed so you might enjoy his ROM as well. Thanks for the feedback and trying it out!
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I would like to correct you here that the desire rom is an actual sense rom based on the leaked ginger bread update for the desire so it is not a
stock anroid or cm7 rom. As i am not a developer, but i have heard desire and inc are very similar devices and that porting is easy between them..i would really appreciate if you would look into the sense 1,0 themes and port some stuff from other device forums as there is a lot out there, and touch of blue..hmm well not a big fan of the sharp blue used in it, anyways, goodluck to you on your missions and i support you fully!
Also can you please add the native screenshots update to this ROM?
So does this have the really bright cm7 flashlight or is this the lame dark light? Just curious BC this is what's holding me back from this rom
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thisguy23 said:
So does this have the really bright cm7 flashlight or is this the lame dark light? Just curious BC this is what's holding me back from this rom
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Hello! I am on vacation this week and didn't bring my Ubuntu laptop with me or else I would have sent out an update a few days ago. The next update is going to include an updated googlesearchbar.apk, I am going to replace the stock flashlight with the CM7 torch and I am going to add the CM7 file explorer. This update should become available as V. 1.2.1 on or about Aug. 6th and it will be able to be flashed over 1.2.0 without problem, although you will need to delete the stock flashlight app on your own if you flash over. I may be able to fix that though. Also, I have been working on adding a screenshot to the power menu but that is a little bit more hardcore modding than what I have been doing so an ETA for that is not going to be available, but of course that is forbidden anyway thanks everyone for trying out the ROM and don't forget to hit the thanks button if you like it!!
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Hello! I am on vacation this week and didn't bring my Ubuntu laptop with me or else I would have sent out an update a few days ago. The next update is going to include an updated googlesearchbar.apk, I am going to replace the stock flashlight with the CM7 torch and I am going to add the CM7 file explorer. This update should become available as V. 1.2.1 on or about Aug. 6th and it will be able to be flashed over 1.2.0 without problem, although you will need to delete the stock flashlight app on your own if you flash over. I may be able to fix that though. Also, I have been working on adding a screenshot to the power menu but that is a little bit more hardcore modding than what I have been doing so an ETA for that is not going to be available, but of course that is forbidden anyway thanks everyone for trying out the ROM and don't forget to hit the thanks button if you like it!!
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It's almost time! Standing by!
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It's almost time! Standing by!
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Sorry ThisGuy, I had 1.2.1 uploaded and ready to go and ran into some bugs when I tested it on my phone so it is a no-go. I will troubleshoot and hopefully get it up soon.
For the time being, try downloading nexus torch from google play and tell me what you think. I have used it before but I can't remember how good it is and I've never been that picky about the brightness. There seems to be an issue with the stock kernel working with the CM7 torch because it was designed for AOSP. It's kind of surprising because at it's root all versions of android are built on the same structure. If they weren't then sense, motoblur and touchwiz would be useless because none of the normal apps in the market would work on their operating systems. Since CM7 is based off of Android 2.3.7 and our OTA is based on Android 2.3.4, I didn't think there would be an issue and that is why I told you I would have it done as soon as I got home from vacation. Like I said before, I will continue to work on this but I didn't think it was going to be the challenge that it has turned out to be.