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If someone would like the information from this thread, please pm me. I will no longer be maintaining this thread nor will I be contributing in anyway to this community.
I want to say thank you to the developers, you have made my time here fun. To the people who don't think their opinions are superior to yours, enjoy yourselves. To everyone else... you need to stop and have a reality check. Your opinions are not superior to anyone else's, no matter how much you believe it to be.
I will stay active until someone pm's me for the thread info.
Very useful. Thank you
Nice work! Thanks.
sent from my I(ncredible)phone.
You may want move Ruby to AOSP
Thanks for the thread! CyanogenMod is a AOSP based ROM though.
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HA! See, I still have alot to learn. I'm moving it now.
Competition for www.theincrediblelist.com ?
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Competition for www.theincrediblelist.com ?
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ha! unfortunately, no, it's on XDA, so it should (hypothetically) be easier for people to find. It's also a work in progress, I want to do so much with this. Being a college student on break has it's advantages.
With the themes, do I flash the themes or use metamorph?
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With the themes, do I flash the themes or use metamorph?
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Whatever works with the ROM. idk the particulars of each and everyone, sorry man. This is just a list with links, you should look into that.
IISiDeK1CKII said:
ha! unfortunately, no, it's on XDA, so it should (hypothetically) be easier for people to find. It's also a work in progress, I want to do so much with this. Being a college student on break has it's advantages.
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One of the disadvantages appears to be not understanding the difference between
-- its-- and --it's--
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One of the disadvantages appears to be not understanding the difference between
-- its-- and --it's--
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You aren't seriously giving me an english lesson right now are you? My mind literally feels like its been raped by my finals and you're giving me a hard time about a contraction I messed up?
You may want to include a short explanation for each ROM category (AOSP, Sense, New Sense, Senseless) as well, because the differences between, say, an AOSP and Senseless ROM are difficult to understand for many newcomers.
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You may want to include a short explanation for each ROM category (AOSP, Sense, New Sense, Senseless) as well, because the differences between, say, an AOSP and Senseless ROM are difficult to understand for many newcomers.
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yep, this is my plan in the near future. I am so stressed out about this week, though... lol. For the next 3 weeks I have nothing but nothing to do, I plan to make this thread awesome.
Please continue to leave suggestions for the thread. If it gets too cluttered with my silliness, I'll just make a new one (v.2). But I will definitely keep this up to date.
Very convenient, thank you for putting in the time to put this together. It is now part of my favorites.
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nice thread! now we have this, the radio thread, and my kernel thread!
version numbers added. adding explanations of each type of rom, then to sleep.
Great thread.Thanks
Nice work on the list, I noticed ShadowROM wasn't on the AOSP list.
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masully1984 said:
Nice work on the list, I noticed ShadowROM wasn't on the AOSP list.
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I didn't think about it because AFAIK the only D/L link for it is via ROM manager. I'll add it though.
Hi Guys,
A member of the cyanogenmod posted a fix for the direction issue.
I just wanted to bring it here, so more people can test it.
Original thread:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20584-directioncompass-issues/
Keep an eye on that thread, maybe there will be an update.
EDIT: I think ali ba posted a open source fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13123944&postcount=31
People reporting that is working to!
**All credits to stat101ca from cyanogenmod forum
Awesome. I depend on Satnav for work, thank you!
pjgodd said:
Awesome. I depend on Satnav for work, thank you!
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Just note that this just installs the original closed source GPS module, problem with CM7 is that loc_api module calculates the bearing/direction wrong. But only on Legend, so probably the data from GPS is not usable as is.
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Just note that this just installs the original closed source GPS module, problem with CM7 is that loc_api module calculates the bearing/direction wrong. But only on Legend, so probably the data from GPS is not usable as is.
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Couldn't really care less which bit of which ROM it installs as long as it works
Well you'll care once you update your ROM you'll have to apply this "fix" again
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Well you'll care once you update your ROM you'll have to apply this "fix" again
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Hardly; I won't be updating until it's fixed. Besides, it's one more tiny update to apply, I'm sure I can spare the 20 seconds out of my life.
Thank you for this fix. I'll try it tomorrow
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Yes, it works! thx
Just now tested it and it works brilliantly, thanks for posting this =)
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Just note that this just installs the original closed source GPS module, problem with CM7 is that loc_api module calculates the bearing/direction wrong. But only on Legend, so probably the data from GPS is not usable as is.
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I don't care what it does; it works and that's what matters. I still can't believe they released the final CM7 without GPS working while older nightlies worked fine.
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But only on Legend, so probably the data from GPS is not usable as is.
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Legend and Aria and every other msm7k device with libloc using version 20000.
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Legend and Aria and every other msm7k device with libloc using version 20000.
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If you can add debug messages to heading/bearing calculation it would maybe help you to get a better idea about whats going on?
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If you can add debug messages to heading/bearing calculation it would maybe help you to get a better idea about whats going on?
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Oh, thank you, this is a great idea!
Now, would you care to tell me where to add these debug messages?
Sygic Aura works fine after installing Gps fix but Igo don't play well... I mean, application run but with an heavy delay in updating the video probably because the program it's waiting for GPS update.
Tested with a fresh install of CM7 today.
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Oh, thank you, this is a great idea!
Now, would you care to tell me where to add these debug messages?
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If you could add debug messages to bearing/heading calculation WE (THE NIGHTLY USERS) could help you with debugging with OUR OWN logs. kthnxbye.
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If you could add debug messages to bearing/heading calculation WE (THE NIGHTLY USERS) could help you with debugging with OUR OWN logs. kthnxbye.
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Another great idea!
Where was that "bearing/heading calculation" again? I can't seem to find anywhere.
Anyway, if I find it, what "debug messages" do you want me to add?
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Another great idea!
Where was that "bearing/heading calculation" again? I can't seem to find anywhere.
Anyway, if I find it, what "debug messages" do you want me to add?
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Sarcastic and synical, I am sure you are a great developer and I am very glad with the roms and your development, but I don't understand why you have to behave like this, feels no good.
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ikdegek said:
Sarcastic and synical, I am sure you are a great developer and I am very glad with the roms and your development, but I don't understand why you have to behave like this, feels no good.
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Maybe because he is tired of answering the same questions/suggestions over and over again?
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Maybe because he is tired of answering the same questions/suggestions over and over again?
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Another explanation would be that I'm actually trying to get people out of their demanding attitude towards something that is more in the spirit of open source. I failed, obviously.
CyanogenMod is not some closed source project of a few people trying to get a little bit of fame. We are enthusiasts, we enjoy what we do and most important: We open source every freaking single line of code.
Yet still people run around giving unbelievably ridiculous advice ("add debug messages") de-facto trying to tell me what to do instead of trying to accomplish it themselves.
No, "I don't know how to" doesn't count – I don't either. I've been writing software for quite a few years now – embedded systems, web development, HDL, etc. – and I know very well that it's absolutely exhausting to actually do something instead of telling others what to do. It takes a long time to understand code, it might be frustrating and you sometimes have to stop, do something else and resume a few days later. Same for me as for everyone else. I'm not angry that most people are afraid of that.
What actually makes me want to scream is a patronizing, "kthnxbye"-ing smarty-pants who thinks he had some sort of brain wave telling me to "add debug messages". It's a standard procedure to attach a debugger, add debug output, do whatever gives you insight on what it's doing and why it's wrong.
To get an idea about this specific bug I had to find out when the compass is used and when it takes the heading values, where those values are retrieved, whether there are any conversions going on that shouldn't, whether it's a random issue or something there that triggers it. All by reading through crappy code that was reverse engineered by guessing and hacking together code that was never written for the Legend's hardware and running around outside like an idiot because I still need a real GPS signal to get debug output.
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Another explanation would be that I'm actually trying to get people out of their demanding attitude towards something that is more in the spirit of open source. I failed, obviously.
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You're going about it in entirely the wrong way, if I may. If it annoys you that much, knock a FAQ together when you've the time, and stop answering posts that rile you up. People get responses to demands, and they don't stop once they get a response.
I'll probably get a nice pile of mad for this bit, but try to understand that the vast majority of people who come here don't understand this "Linux thing" or software development- they have a phone, and they just like it to work. They like cool stuff, and they like not having to pay for it even more. If their post annoys you so much, why not just ignore it instead of getting your rage/apathy/etc on? People don't learn by being told they're dumb, they learn by asking questions. If you don't want to answer them, then don't- it's really that simple
Do bear in mind before you reply that most people here really value the work you guys put into CM. Don't think that my post suggest otherwise, I really am genuinely trying to help the situation here.
just a subj... is it possible the some developer just take a rom which weas made by someone else and announce as his one achivement? (sulerly, some minor ganages could be done in the rom)
how to identify the thief?
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just a subj... is it possible the some developer just take a rom which weas made by someone else and announce as his one achivement? (sulerly, some minor ganages could be done in the rom)
how to identify the thief?
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It's not really stealing i guess as long as you put out credits of the people who created it, or by asking permission from the developers.
centrax said:
It's not really stealing i guess as long as you put out credits of the people who created it, or by asking permission from the developers.
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if the "owner" has not been aware about any usage of his rom, is it faire to thread the rom? "credits" are given when a team were worked out the rom, or when you take the result of someone's job and just say "hey, i take it" ?
in my opinion, it is situational and depends on the context.
A =/= B =/= C
But they could share similarities that most people would agree something was done morally wrong. I guess you could share with us the situation then we can give a better opinion?
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I guess you could share with us the situation then we can give a better opinion?
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i just wondering is there a sort of "widly known gentelmen agreement" about such situations. and the second matter is to get an idea how both parties (both developers) can get "a profitable solution" for both (= peace)
In my opinion, the developers community should be honest for it members. And other users have to proud for the achievments of this community. All team's results would be better, than results of each developer. That's why they should be together ^.^
PS sorry for bad english, I hope you understand my meaning
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That's why they should be together ^.^
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all should be together with all ... sounds impossible
the problem is HOW can others results be used for making app / rom etc?
what is allowed to do and what is forbidden (ethically)?
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all should be together with all ... sounds impossible
the problem is HOW can others results be used for making app / rom etc?
what is allowed to do and what is forbidden (ethically)?
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To work together - allowed, to use with proper credits - allowed. To edit build.prop and post as own rom - not. I think so.
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To work together - allowed, to use with proper credits - allowed. To edit build.prop and post as own rom - not. I think so.
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that is what i intended to clarify
alex_awful said:
just a subj... is it possible the some developer just take a rom which weas made by someone else and announce as his one achivement? (sulerly, some minor ganages could be done in the rom)
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If you suspect something, you can always go and compare files.
Technically you can do whatever you want since android is open source.
Ethically it isbetter to consult with rom owners about using parts of a rom and credit them offcourse
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Psyloid said:
Ethically it isbetter to consult with rom owners about using parts of a rom and credit them offcourse
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if someone did not done it (consult) before he take a part of rom, what will happen? does it mean that othe other community will declare a boycott against him? or just say "you'd better stop doing it"?
Of course you're all talking about the Rom owners, Google... Right? Or perhaps HTC? I would be very surprised if any Rom posted in our dev thread have asked Linus Torvalds personally if they could post a derivation of his operating system here.
You don't see too many credits to those 3 either...
It's public domain, nobody here has built a Rom entirely from scratch all have borrowed from the community and the source, and if they offer even one piece of code that's new, I say good on them, they are contributing to the community, and the community will take from and build on that too.
But let's cut to the chase, why are you asking the question? You're planning to contribute? Or are you here to point the finger at someone for stealing your creation?
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if someone did not done it (consult) before he take a part of rom, what will happen? does it mean that othe other community will declare a boycott against him? or just say "you'd better stop doing it"?
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They come to your house and stab you in the back.
Lol !!!
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alex_awful said:
if someone did not done it (consult) before he take a part of rom, what will happen? does it mean that othe other community will declare a boycott against him? or just say "you'd better stop doing it"?
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Like everyone has stated, being a open source code and that no one in here is making profit from the roms, (on this site at least i can not speak for the world) it is really a null point of theft everything is free you can not steal something that is owned by the public. As well if you plan on taking something from a rom I would strongly suggest that you ask, and give proper credit were it is due. personally if i worked on a project and someone was using my development with no permission or credit i would publicly humiliate them in anyway possible so that the ass who "stole"
my work would never be able to call it his own again. As well the XDA community is great group of people who if you steal anything from another rom with no permission will find out and ostracize you for your pathetic attempt to pass of someone else's blood sweat and tears as your own.
Nuff said lol
Hello everyone,
I've been pondering over some project to divert my time on and well recently I've begun to notice the somewhat unorganized mess XDA has become. So I thought of the fabulous idea of creating a new website made strictly for ROMs, Kernels, Rooting, & Unlocking Bootloaders. The website would have separate sections for each device, then differing versions of the device, then for android version, and then finally for type of development. For example AT&T Galaxy S3 CM12 rom would be found under Galaxy S3>AT&T>Lollipop>Roms>Cyanogenmod 12.
Get it? Super organized, super easy to find things.
What do you guys think? Is this something worth investing my time in? Or should I just give u on this little project? Be brutally honest please. After all there is no point on building a website that nobody will ever use.
More steps but easier finds. Nice.
Sounds good, especially if you can get support from xda.
CyanogenMod 11 listed under jellybean ROMs?
Your biggest issue is people dont really leave xda. Developer wise most are keen to stay here because support and friends are here i imagine. Also logistically trying to support even half the phones xda does and have it so organised into just what the phones are compatible with, along with paired Q&A + general threads would be immensely time consuming and would require more than a few people to keep up with the flow. Not even considering user mistakes with roms added in the wrong forum. While it would be a good idea i wouldnt attempt it. The mods are always willing to listen to new ideas to help keep the forums tidy though. Maybe try help out closer to home?
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Shut your mouth XD
developer209 said:
Shut your mouth XD
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@1BadWolf
developer209 said:
Shut your mouth XD
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@1BadWolf
an example
CoolApps said:
More steps but easier finds. Nice.
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Sounds good, especially if you can get support from xda.
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CyanogenMod 11 listed under jellybean ROMs?
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http://organizedxda.weebly.com/
developer209 said:
Shut your mouth XD
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@1BadWolf
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Hahaha, sorry. It was like there was a little devil sitting on my shoulder saying "C'mon, do it! It'll be funny!"
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Hahaha, sorry. It was like there was a little devil sitting on my shoulder saying "Do it! It'll be funny!"
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Lol I corrected it in the OP just for your devil :b
Good luck with your site, but you're not promoting it here, as per forum rules.
Thread closed.
I feel Linux / android / XDA gas always been an open community. I feel if everyone had access to not only root, but HOW (m?)fastboot is tricked into uploading custom firmware, we would all get true root faster... So should I leak what I know?
Input from mods, or other respected contributors would be most helpful.
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I feel Linux / android / XDA gas always been an open community. I feel if everyone had access to not only root, but HOW mfastboot is tricked into uploading custom firmware, we would all get true root faster... So should I leak what I know?
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Who would say no to that question?!
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Lincoln Douglas debate
You pose a very interesting intersection of values
I appreciate the dev for all his hard work and support the idea of him being paid for the work I already bought mofo so I feel like I have supported the Dev which makes me feel good
But all I want now is wp/off and even better an unlocked boatloader. That's why I vote yes
But I think its important not to pose this as a black or white decision because the poll is much more complex than that
A true Lincoln Douglas debate needs to be had on this lol
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I feel Linux / android / XDA gas always been an open community. I feel if everyone had access to not only root, but HOW mfastboot is tricked into uploading custom firmware, we would all get true root faster... So should I leak what I know?
Input from mods, or other respected contributors would be most helpful.
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Mofo is a product and the dev owns that. On the other end, the underlying method isn't proprietary. I would say release whatever you have.
mofo secrets released?
Diego1751 said:
You pose a very interesting intersection of values
I appreciate the dev for all his hard work and support the idea of him being paid for the work I already bought mofo so I feel like I have supported the Dev which makes me feel good
But all I want now is wp/off and even better an unlocked boatloader. That's why I vote yes
But I think its important not to pose this as a black or white decision because the poll is much more complex than that
A true Lincoln Douglas debate needs to be had on this lol
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Why put it out into the public so Motorola can patch it?
Let's hear it!
Yeah, release it, so people wouldnt have to pay 20$ to get to flash over mfastboot.
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I would not release a way for people to do it but the actual method behind it and the exploit used. This could help push development for the turbo which is something I am sure everyone would enjoy. That being said, I would recommend waiting for lollipop before releasing it to the world just in case moto/big red dont know how to do this. Whatever you choose to do please don't release it such that anyone can up and use the exploit as an executable per se because thats not fair to the creators. I vote yes
P.s. I already bought mofo and would pay full price again for an unlocked BL
My heart says yes
my head says no
just post the code, someone clever enough will figure it out what to do with it, OR DONT RELEASE IT AND MOTOROLA WOULDNT KNOW HOW TO FIX IT AND IT WILL STILL BE POSSIBLE TO ROOT ANDROID 5.1 WITH THE SAME METHOD
your call
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My heart says yes
my head says no
just post the code, someone clever enough will figure it out what to do with it, OR DONT RELEASE IT AND MOTOROLA WOULDNT KNOW HOW TO FIX IT AND IT WILL STILL BE POSSIBLE TO ROOT ANDROID 5.1 WITH THE SAME METHOD
your call
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Too late, I believe motorola is all ready aware of this exploit and how it works, and will have it fixed by next software update.
freemenot said:
Too late, I believe motorola is all ready aware of this exploit and how it works, and will have it fixed by next software update.
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@jcase already stated they know about it. Release the exploit and start a dev thread about it.
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Why put it out into the public so Motorola can patch it?
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Motorola already knows about it
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@jcase already stated they know about it. Release the exploit and start a dev thread about it.
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nothing to release, authors notified qualcomm/motorola, the details are in the commit history in CAF. Its not secret, no point exists to overly vague forum posts about it.
SaschaElble is mistaken, mfastboot isnt tricked into flashing anything.
If its no secret then it should be disclosed in XDA so a free version can be made. And if mfastboot isn't tricked then "how" is it done? Link to this commit you speak of?
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nothing to release, authors notified qualcomm/motorola, the details are in the commit history in CAF. Its not secret, no point exists to overly vague forum posts about it.
SaschaElble is mistaken, mfastboot isnt tricked into flashing anything.
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To feed my own curiosity, which git on CAF is that (thought it's lk, but doesn't look like so)?
(yes I'm lazy)
EDIT: NVM, it's splattered on the 8084 branch throughout more commits.
https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...unds-checking-when-flashing-sparse-images-cve
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If its no secret then it should be disclosed in XDA so a free version can be made. And if mfastboot isn't tricked then "how" is it done? Link to this commit you speak of?
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Why do you need a link, you already know what it is based on your op.
mfastboot is just a dumb client.
This is how moforoot flashes over the system partition:
https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...n and Roms since. We need more people rooted.
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nothing to release, authors notified qualcomm/motorola, the details are in the commit history in CAF. Its not secret, no point exists to overly vague forum posts about it.
SaschaElble is mistaken, mfastboot isnt tricked into flashing anything.
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I feel like there is a bigger divide between people with the real skills like @jcase, hash, and dhacker and everyone else that claims to be a dev than there used to be. I guess that is a function of how complex and secure android has become. Pretty soon only nexus phones will have any possible development.
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This is how moforoot flashes over the system partition:
https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...t have different areas of interest that's it.
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