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Just came across this in the HDIII thread
Laughed out loud
New 3G iPhone review
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omg soooooo funny and so true haha

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oops sorry didnt know the pic in the 1st post is the same
hehe even i got this pic and posted it without checking 1st post

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ROFL!! (the damn thing tells me to write atleast 10 chars)
I HATE APPLE!

I love those pictures
But I have to wonder why people keep making threads about the phone they hate so much...
R

rorydaredkign said:
I love those pictures
But I have to wonder why people keep making threads about the phone they hate so much...
R
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Because iPhone fanbois love it so much and it can't do any wrong in thier eyes.
Dave

This is funny stuff but have already seen it already months ago. I like the macbook air one (have not seen it yet)

hotrod101 said:
I like the macbook air one (have not seen it yet)
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Me too. It's stated to have a damn good (not a plain TFT film) screen - dunno if it's an IPS one.

DaveShaw said:
Because iPhone fanbois love it so much and it can't do any wrong in thier eyes.
Dave
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Yes, the Apple fan boi's are an annoying bunch...but how many WM users here are just as fanatical? Just try and threaten the superiority of WM and watch the flaming begin. I'll probably get beat up and get my lunch money taken away just for mentioning this.
I have both. I'm an OS Agnostic. But many, many are not...

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ROFL!! (the damn thing tells me to write atleast 10 chars)
I HATE APPLE!
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haha I'm with you there!
on another one of my forum's one user said:
"I'm sorry. iPhones < WinMo"
then another user replies:
"LMAO I beg to differ!!!
1.Iphone is the top selling smartphone of 08
2. 3rd Party Apps
3.most advanced touchscreen yet invented and implemented into a phone
Those are only a few reasons that they are better!
Lets hear about winmo?"
lol it's funny when people think so highly of the iphone.

sheennick123456 said:
MOVE ASIDE GUYS LET ME DO THE REVIEW
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LOL!!!!
It´s more than hilarious!!! hahaha!

mikeeey said:
lol it's funny when people think so highly of the iphone.
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well, actually, at least for 1, Web browsing 2, gaming, the iPhone is (way) better than WinMo... (I know both platforms extremely well before you ask me.. )

Menneisyys said:
well, actually, at least for 1, Web browsing 2, gaming, the iPhone is (way) better than WinMo... (I know both platforms extremely well before you ask me.. )
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It's been how many years since the release of the HTC tornado? 3 or 4 years? Back when I had my sda.. when I pictured 3 or 4 years into the future I expected much better gaming. I pictured Full speed GBA, maybe even PS1. The performance has not improved in 3 or 4 years now! it's goten worse! I think the only reason why the iphone is better is because HTC is making it look good. If HTC would have continued to progress in performance we'd probably be matched or better than the iphone.
That's just my take on it lol.

While the WM platform is more oriented towards the business department, the iPhoney is more oriented towards the young, "hip" generation. I personally say the iPhone is good at what it doesn, and if somehow, someone, hacked it and got tf3d and winmo apps running on it, I'm sold. The OS is just built so muc hbetter. But it bugs me that people want the iPhoney interface >.> I mean it's just a fancy application launcher with big round shiny buttons. What's so cool about that?

i remember a song that sing this way
[the "apple" tree that grew for u and me. I watch the "apples" falling one-by-one.]
john lennon is the first to test apple products but also the first to see it fall.

Kraize said:
While the WM platform is more oriented towards the business department, the iPhoney is more oriented towards the young, "hip" generation. I personally say the iPhone is good at what it doesn, and if somehow, someone, hacked it and got tf3d and winmo apps running on it, I'm sold. The OS is just built so muc hbetter. But it bugs me that people want the iPhoney interface >.> I mean it's just a fancy application launcher with big round shiny buttons. What's so cool about that?
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Completly agree mate

mikeeey said:
It's been how many years since the release of the HTC tornado? 3 or 4 years? Back when I had my sda.. when I pictured 3 or 4 years into the future I expected much better gaming. I pictured Full speed GBA, maybe even PS1. The performance has not improved in 3 or 4 years now! it's goten worse! I think the only reason why the iphone is better is because HTC is making it look good. If HTC would have continued to progress in performance we'd probably be matched or better than the iphone.
That's just my take on it lol.
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Absolutely agreed. the WinMo platform has had GREAT gaming potential since 2004 (the intel 2700g-based x50v). Too bad Microsoft / HTC didn't bother making the platform a viable gaming platform for games developers. This is why iPhone has blown out of the water the entire WM platform when it comes to gaming.

Well let me throw my 2-3 pence in.....
I recently purchased a iPhoney for my oldest son. And one of the rules of him having it is daddy gets to play with it....... to evaluate it of course. My original assessment of the phone from when it first came out hasn't changed. Neither platform (iPhone or WM) is better than the other. The iPhone is far better at being a "toy" and WM is far better at being a "tool". Whose hands you put either phone in determines which one will be better than the other. In my hands (where I need my phone to work like a laptop) an iPhone may be fun to play with, but it just won't cut it in the functionality I need on a daily bases. Put a WM phone in my son's or wife's hands (where all they care about is ease of use, email/texting, music/video, web surfing, games) it is far too complicated for them to ever make full use of the phone.
No doubt the iPhone is one kick ass phone for what it was designed to do. And that is to fulfill the wants of the simple minded masses with the before mentioned functions. The iPhone has the edge in those categories. Some of the things I need in a phone and the iPhone lacks:
1. No bluetooth A2DP
2. No way to explore files
3. No seperate keyboard
4. No native support for Office docs
5. No native way to shoot video
6. No MMS
7. No tethering
8. No USB memory simulation
9. No copy/paste
10. No multi tasking of apps
11. No removable battery
12. No replaceable memory card
I'm with some of the rest of you guys when it comes to iPhone fan bois/gurlz. They completely bought in to Job's "revolutionary" hype so much it makes me gag. Of course there are your WM fanners, but they are not so much the "sheeple" like the Apple lovers.

Bye guys(kinda)

well guys today i bought me an iphone. my sister is now going to be using my wing. i just made her a dialer skin so dont worry. i just extended my skinning platforms. i know ive been gone for a while but i just moved in to a new home so i didnt have time. when i finish he dialer i will post here.
but in the end, i might not be on as much anymore. just in case i dont, this is my good-bye to you guys. if it werent for you guys, i think i would have thrown my wing away but i didnt because you guys made it usable. but im only 16, i need a phone that focuses more on fun and music.
thanks again guys,
Albert

kidnamedAlbert said:
well guys today i bought me an iphone. my sister is now going to be using my wing. i just made her a dialer skin so dont worry. i just extended my skinning platforms. i know ive been gone for a while but i just moved in to a new home so i didnt have time. when i finish he dialer i will post here.
but in the end, i might not be on as much anymore. just in case i dont, this is my good-bye to you guys. if it werent for you guys, i think i would have thrown my wing away but i didnt because you guys made it usable. but im only 16, i need a phone that focuses more on fun and music.
thanks again guys,
Albert
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Albert, you helped me out and I learned alot from you! You will be missed, promise to stop by and say hello now and then! I wish you the best!
Cal

Thanks for all your hard work, skinning and mostly for your orginizational skills in keeping the skins thread running productively and peacefully ( such that it was ). We will miss you and look forward to your return. And you will.
My wife has an iphone that I fool with from time to time, Steve Jobs and Apple will crush the inspiration and creativity out of you in no time. Entertainment aside, unlike WM , the iphone is done Apple's way or not at all.
Good Luck, Denco

thanks for the excellent skins, etc.! Best of luck with your new toy...

Blah! NOOO! Read this first! By Steve Davis of ppcmobility. Btw, I'm 16 too and I find out that the Fuze is still much better than my friends' iPhones.
Top 10 reasons iPhone is not good.
Time for my list. I’ll start backwards… well in order… at 10. Well.... 9 is good for iphone users
10. iPhone(Apple) users. Don’t get me wrong. I like people, but iPhone people and Apple people are their own breed. They always think that Macs are the best, Apple is the best company ever and the iPhone is the best thing since sliced bread. They will push the iPhone on you until you hate everything Apple. This includes you Walt Mossberg. Apparently for the price you get one iPhone and a few pounds of smug to carry around with you. When the iPhone 3G came out I had to keep checking my phone to make sure I really did have 3G for years because the way it was advertised I was certain they were releasing something so new to the market I couldn’t have had it already.
9. Applications made free for iPhones. I can go over a lot of applications that come out for iPhone that are free and good, but were out for Windows mobile for years beforehand and were not free. Shazam is out on Android and iPhone for free. They came out with a program called “TagIt” in 2006, but that has disappeared and they only have the service for iPhone and Android or for people in the UK(no offense, US gets stuff first 9 times out of 10). Pandora! Free for iPhone and its BIG NEWS, but its been out for Windows Mobile for a while, but you had to pay, which is not cool. I’m sure there are more out there, but I cant think of them right now. Those are the 2 big ones.
8. Cut and Paste. BGR is right, this is a big problem. Just because the Macs dont have mice with 2 buttons doesn’t mean you need to cripple your iPhone to not be able to copy and paste! (I know you can right click NOW but that’s kind of new).
7. 1 word, Flash. Skyfire has recently given Windows mobile users the benefit of Flash websites. I’d expect the best phone in the world to do the same. Flash mobile has been out for a while, but what sites recognize flash lite 3.1 or mobile 7? And Safari is constantly touted as the best browser. The numbers are simple - SkyFire loads WebPages much faster than Safari plus you get the real internet (yeah, with Flash, etc). Oh and congrats iPhone you finally have more choices.
6. Non-Replaceable battery. Now sure, the iPhone battery will last FOREVER, but what if it doesn’t? What if I want more than the 5 hours of 3G talk time Apple specs out? What if i want a high-capacity battery without cracking it open or putting a strange case on it? Given most phones will get thicker with a bigger battery, but you don’t have to void your warranty or use a case you don’t want to use. This really goes to the core of how Apple makes money. The original Mac cases could not be opened so you would be forced to buy a new computer and there was no ‘upgrading’. The iPods also have a non-replaceable battery. The reason is simple - when the battery dies this forces you to buy the newest version and since everyone loves Apple they shell out more money ever year for a slight upgrade. This may also explain why other items on this list are here; it gives Apple a reason to release iPhone v3. And don’t even get me started on the proprietary plug instead of mini-USB which is now becoming standard for PDA’s
5. Multitasking. There is some misconception about this and theiPhoneBlog has a good write-up about it and the deal is that Apple only allows its own apps(mail, phone, etc) to multitask. 3rd party apps cant. I’ll get into that in #4.
4. Install whatever i want without jailbreak. So with Windows Mobile, not only can i edit the registry, but I can install WHATEVER I WANT without jailbreaking my phone and potentially bricking it. I find it hard to believe that they can demand the price they do and lock your device entirely and not get heat for it. If Windows did the same thing they would get destroyed for it.
3a. The Screen. I hate hearing that the iPhone has such a beautiful screen. Guess what? I can see pixels. All of them. If I pick up my Fuze I don’t see any thanks to the glory that is VGA. I’m sure Apple will release a VGA screen and then I’ll hear all of the media hype about how it’s the sharpest screen ever even though we all know the Touch HD has the same dimensions with a higher resolution.
3b. The User Interface. The user interface of the iPhone is merely an application launcher and if you want more than that or a different look then Apple will tell you to look elsewhere or wait for their next latest and greatest release. It is literally nothing more than a page of shortcuts and people love the simplicity and entire lack of actual interface. And the intentional minimalist look for the iPhone (with a single hard button) also breeds this inefficiency. If you’re in an application and want to use the phone there’s no ‘phone’ button. You have to go home then launch the phone.
2. Customization of icons/themes/skins/BACKGROUND again without jailbreak. Just about every phone on XDA has a thread for “post your today screen”. For the iPhone, those forums need to be in the jailbreak sections. How hard would it be to make it standard to be able to have custom icons and skins? And changing the background was one of the bigger gripes I had when looking for a phone. It may not sound like much, but I want to do what I want to do. Why do I need to conform to what Apple wants? The name iPhone is a misnomer. It should be Steve’s Phone because he found some settings he likes and told you to like them too
1. MMS. Why cant i sent a MMS to my friends who have iPhones? When I ask them, they just say “email it to me”. Well I don’t want to. I can MMS pictures to my other friends, I’m not going to make an exception for my iPhone friends. You CAN get a MMS app for the iPhone, but you need to again Jailbreak it and then you’re good to go.
These reasons alone weren’t why I got the Fuze, but they did help in the long run. Hopefully you weren’t swayed by the hype and advertising like everyone else. What’s #1 on your list?
And if you are interested in what an iPhone can do when you jailbreak it, check out this link wouldn’t it be nice if it could do some of that right out of the box? Like a Windows Mobile phone?
Let the bashing begin…
-SCDavis
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Kraize said:
Top 10 reasons iPhone is not good.
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It comes down to this:
With Windows Mobile, I feel like the phone is mine. I can adjust whatever, and install or create quite easily whatever. I can change battery or whatever, and I can switch to a bigger battery or whatever. I can do almost whatever I want, and whatever I need it for.
It's my tool of choice, or whatever...

Hey, props to knA , lets not let this turn into another iPhone sucks thread.
Thanks again kid

rhov23 said:
It comes down to this:
With Windows Mobile, I feel like the phone is mine. I can adjust whatever, and install or create quite easily whatever. I can change battery or whatever, and I can switch to a bigger battery or whatever. I can do almost whatever I want, and whatever I need it for.
It's my tool of choice, or whatever...
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aaaaaaaaamen

Good luck with your new device
Hope in the future you come back!

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hahah that is rich.

Yeah seems youll probably be like me, passing by from time to time. Totally agree that I needed a phone for more fun and music though. Stupid cracked screen now
Anyway have fun with your iPhone

Good luck to you. You'll be missed

maybe next year ill get whatever new htc phone is the greatest. btw, im still gonna skin i have too much time on my hands and i honestly find skinning FUN

kidnamedAlbert said:
maybe next year ill get whatever new htc phone is the greatest. btw, im still gonna skin i have too much time on my hands and i honestly find skinning FUN
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I know what u mean, I'm a skinner myself . SKIN THEM ALIVE!

kidnamedAlbert said:
maybe next year ill get whatever new htc phone is the greatest. btw, im still gonna skin i have too much time on my hands and i honestly find skinning FUN
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What's the matter with the HTC Touch HD? Even PDAEssentials, which normally worships the iPhone, admitted recently that the HTC Touch HD won in their iPhone-HD-X1-Storm head-to-head.
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Yeah seems youll probably be like me, passing by from time to time. Totally agree that I needed a phone for more fun and music though. Stupid cracked screen now
Anyway have fun with your iPhone
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Hahahahahahaha...*draws breath*...hahahahaha...
Oh wait - I got that stupid smudge of doom and massive realignment problem on my Touch.
Touchphones are clearly still in their early days.

well, i have my iphone 3g for about 4 months now, while most of the glorious why iphone is not good list does not apply to me... with the exception of flash and UI, i am pretty happy with it. iphone comes with a lot of features i dont need to hunt down in WM, and a lot of interesting apps after it is jailbroke (seriously, if you can handle a WM, jailbreaking iphone should be a no-brainer process). i can safely say i probably wont get another WM device unless WM7 is significantly better than WM6.1, but i definitely wont get the next iphone... if theres a next one... back to symbian i guess...

Dyno App

I was just wondering if anyone has heard any more information on this app.
http://code.google.com/android/adc_gallery/app.html?id=11
It has been floating around for a couple of months now but i cant seem to find any more info on when this might come out.
It looks like a fun app to play around with and see how your car performs

I doubt it would be that accurate

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Im not sure on the accelerometer & GPS v the iPhone but the iPhone does have a dyno app and i have seen video comparisons of their Dyno app v a dedicated unit and every time the app won out over the dedicated unit.
Im not saying that it will be exactly the same but to me its promising.
Check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-DFbJQbeSY&feature=related

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Im not sure on the accelerometer & GPS v the iPhone but the iPhone does have a dyno app and i have seen video comparisons of their Dyno app v a dedicated unit and every time the app won out over the dedicated unit.
Im not saying that it will be exactly the same but to me its promising.
Check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-DFbJQbeSY&feature=related
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I retract my previous statement, but we'll c how it comes out, hopefully the same or better

might be waiting for paid apps. if this thing is as good as Dynolicious for the iphone then its definatly going to be worth paying for.

i agree, if this thing is as good as Dynolicious then i would definitely pay for it. Hope it wont be much longer now, as the market is accepting paid apps.

Thats awesome. Hope we have that soon.

just for reference, i have used a mobile dyno device a long time ago, and it was pretty accurate.
if you want spot on results go to a shop with a dyno.. but it gave a very good estimation for a 200$ device back in the day

it more of something fun to find out.
And if its as good as the iPhone version than it will be really accurate.
Plus i wouldnt even think about spending 200 on something like that, if i can get something for 10

You mean you got your phone for $10?

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If you make a statement like this, then obviously you're not a car guy, not even with that screen name.
Yeah, it would be a "cool" app, but if someone was to quote me their engine power based on the reading from a phone (G1, iPhone or otherwise), I would laugh.

a nice dyno app would be better if you have fuel management hardware. there is a system called megasquirt which you can build the hardware from scratch and download their application to tune the engine. i think its open source so it should have the source code and it can possibly ported to the g1, im not an expert. just know how to use a dyno and an engine management system. just integrate an android device with megasquirt or aem, or greddy emanage it would be a nice combo. so there would be no need for a laptop. too bad im not a programmer.
megasquirt website
http://www.megasquirt.org/megasquirt.html
mega tunix. opensource application to run megasquirt
http://megatunix.sourceforge.net/

xyrcncp said:
If you make a statement like this, then obviously you're not a car guy, not even with that screen name.
Yeah, it would be a "cool" app, but if someone was to quote me their engine power based on the reading from a phone (G1, iPhone or otherwise), I would laugh.
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Im just not a guy who wants to waste money. Going off the video i posted in this thread the iPhone version was more accurate.
so i wouldnt care if the dedicated unit was the same price id still go with the one that was more accurate.
If i can spend $10 on an app for my phone have it more accurate than a dedicated unit and easer to setup and use with multiple cars. I know which ones a winner for me

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a nice dyno app would be better if you have fuel management hardware. there is a system called megasquirt which you can build the hardware from scratch and download their application to tune the engine. i think its open source so it should have the source code and it can possibly ported to the g1, im not an expert. just know how to use a dyno and an engine management system. just integrate an android device with megasquirt or aem, or greddy emanage it would be a nice combo. so there would be no need for a laptop. too bad im not a programmer.
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That would be cool or even if you couldn't tune with it. You could have
Your boost and lamba reading on your phone display.
Qtronix

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Im just not a guy who wants to waste money. Going off the video i posted in this thread the iPhone version was more accurate.
so i wouldnt care if the dedicated unit was the same price id still go with the one that was more accurate.
If i can spend $10 on an app for my phone have it more accurate than a dedicated unit and easer to setup and use with multiple cars. I know which ones a winner for me
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Problem is the HP data it displays is pretty much useless. Sure it can show you what your MAX HP is, but it won't show you Torque output and what's most important your power curves. Max power is useless unless you know WHERE your max power is in your RPM range. Dyno tuning is used for more then showing off big numbers, its used for tuning your engine where and when you want that power to come into play to suit your style of driving and the kind of racing you're doing. For engine tuning stick to a real dyno.
Now, as for the other data such as 0 - 60, braking, turning G's, etc etc. THAT data I find useful because combined with google maps of the track you can help yourself identify where you made mistakes and to better tune your suspension.

Ron,
Good point with using with on the track to find your weak spots.
I didnt even think of this.
To be honest i was thinking of it more of a toy to mess around with, with a few mates.

Ron Overdrive said:
Problem is the HP data it displays is pretty much useless. Sure it can show you what your MAX HP is, but it won't show you Torque output and what's most important your power curves. Max power is useless unless you know WHERE your max power is in your RPM range. Dyno tuning is used for more then showing off big numbers, its used for tuning your engine where and when you want that power to come into play to suit your style of driving and the kind of racing you're doing. For engine tuning stick to a real dyno.
Now, as for the other data such as 0 - 60, braking, turning G's, etc etc. THAT data I find useful because combined with google maps of the track you can help yourself identify where you made mistakes and to better tune your suspension.
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I wouldnt call it useless, obv if they want to tune their car, and/or want to know their curves theyd jus go dyno their car. The app is for the people who just want to know what the app tells u. Its not replacing an actual dyno

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I wouldnt call it useless, obv if they want to tune their car, and/or want to know their curves theyd jus go dyno their car. The app is for the people who just want to know what the app tells u. Its not replacing an actual dyno
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Oh that I know, but you know as well as I do that there will be some wannabe dyno-queen ricer that would think otherwise. I rather lay out reality on the table before anyone who doesn't know what they're doing comes back whining about how its such a horrible app because they blew their motor trying to net 300+ hp out of their poorly tuned honda while trying to get a base-line on some back road.

Ron Overdrive said:
Oh that I know, but you know as well as I do that there will be some wannabe dyno-queen ricer that would think otherwise. I rather lay out reality on the table before anyone who doesn't know what they're doing comes back whining about how its such a horrible app because they blew their motor trying to net 300+ hp out of their poorly tuned honda while trying to get a base-line on some back road.
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Ahaha the word ricer changed everything completely, now I see where your coming from.

http://www.dynolicious.com/gallery.php
it looks cool... but yha, id stick with the real deal
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Who thinks there will be an iPhone slider phone?

of course the iPhone would have a keyboard...who thinks this will happen within the next 10 years (2009-2019) for the iPhone line of phones?
Edit: When I said "of course the iPhone would have a keyboard" I meant that if the iPhone was a slider a phone, than of course I am talking about an iPhone with a qwerty keyboard...not a dial pad....not like an N95 but something more like a Touch Pro

as a follower, they should prepare to have it

i doesnt really matter even if they attach some xtrange keyboard is just one thing i never but never matters to me

No, will not happen
I don't think there will be a slider phone from Apple, simply becaise the designs of the Iphone won't allow sliding extras. The design of the phone was always based on looking solid and out of one piece, like it's the case with the Imac, Iphone and Ipod. I rest my case

Even if they do, it will still be crap. Anyways, I don't believe there will be iPhails in 2019.............
EDIT: It looks like in my blind hatred I forgot to answer the question.
I think it is the next logical step. iPhail users can be easily satisfied, but many people have switched to devices with a physical keyboard. Pre, Xperia, N97 and so forth offer much more flexibility and I will not even mention the endless stream of messaging phones. I bet that crApple will try to tap that market and the only way to do that is to add a keyboard. Advancements in haptics will not compensate for the lack of one.
Haha look at this:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/07/financial-times-confirms-apple-tablet-for-september/

+ Que PPC said:
i doesnt really matter even if they attach some xtrange keyboard is just one thing i never but never matters to me
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Completly agree Paisa!
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Even if they do, it will still be crap. Anyways, I don't believe there will be iPhails in 2019.............
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Same here +1

Iphone will never have a hardware keyboard because they're all abut touch and so on plus the iphone looks boring in design since they all look alike i bet the only difference between the iphones now and the distant future ones will be the thickness.

Yup I dont think so neither

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ingerasu said:
as a follower, they should prepare to have it
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Yeah!! I also think that it will have a slider phone.
Really

Nope, don't think it will ever happen
The concept of Iphone does not allow additions or protruding parts. Besides, the latest trends indicate shift towards keyless or full qwerty full touch large screen devices and Iphone is already there. They will improve functions and OSX, adding a video call and other gadgety things, but will not add a keyboard in any shape or form. They don't even want an external one used, that's something to ponder.
In 10 years we won't even remember Iphone, we'll have the next best thing - a cellphone inbuilt into our brans with calls made by voice and answered by blinking twice or pulling on the ear. Or better still - we'll genetically modify our future progeny to be born with a cellphone already growing in the brain and attached to the eye, so that any e-mails, txt messages, photos and movies are downloaded and viewed automatically and video calls can be made clicking your tongue

enigma1nz said:
The concept of Iphone does not allow additions or protruding parts. Besides, the latest trends indicate shift towards keyless or full qwerty full touch large screen devices and Iphone is already there. They will improve functions and OSX, adding a video call and other gadgety things, but will not add a keyboard in any shape or form. They don't even want an external one used, that's something to ponder.
In 10 years we won't even remember Iphone, we'll have the next best thing - a cellphone inbuilt into our brans with calls made by voice and answered by blinking twice or pulling on the ear. Or better still - we'll genetically modify our future progeny to be born with a cellphone already growing in the brain and attached to the eye, so that any e-mails, txt messages, photos and movies are downloaded and viewed automatically and video calls can be made clicking your tongue
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Yeah, and what about the ROM's for our brains
"Hey man, how are you, I just flashed my head with the latest ROM from XDA-Brain developers, now I have 3 eyes "

Win_XP said:
Yeah, and what about the ROM's for our brains
"Hey man, how are you, I just flashed my head with the latest ROM from XDA-Brain developers, now I have 3 eyes "
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LOL!
I have an extra arm with that ROM! probably I have not configured in the proper way... I want my extra eye not an arm

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Yeah, and what about the ROM's for our brains
"Hey man, how are you, I just flashed my head with the latest ROM from XDA-Brain developers, now I have 3 eyes "
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Now you are just being silly - STAY AWAY FROM BETA RELEASES!!!!
'Why are you blinking with only one eye?' 'Tomal released a new beta for my brain, I am testing and posting bug report'

enigma1nz said:
Now you are just being silly - STAY AWAY FROM BETA RELEASES!!!!
'Why are you blinking with only one eye?' 'Tomal released a new beta for my brain, I am testing and posting bug report'
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Thanks Abusalza, the new brain rom is running great.
I think I found a couple of bugs though.......................
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Thanks Abusalza, the new brain rom is running great.
I think I found a couple of bugs though.......................
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minor inconveniences.
back on topic... the IPhone will probably never receive a built in keyboard. but i am sure small external ones will appear eventually with Bluetooth being opened up.

Apple will likely release an overly expensive bluetooth keyboard that the masses will buy because it looks good and works only with the iPhone.

JRK-Scope said:
Apple will likely release an overly expensive bluetooth keyboard that the masses will buy because it looks good and works only with the iPhone.
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EXACTLY.

JRK-Scope said:
Apple will likely release an overly expensive bluetooth keyboard that the masses will buy because it looks good and works only with the iPhone.
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Doubtful , Apple doesn't do accessories, not enough of a profit margin.
They are more likely to come out with a tablet that makes phone calls.

The number of iPhail threads lately is concerning....

orelsi said:
The number of iPhail threads lately is concerning....
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then i bet the fact that XDA-developers.com owns Iphone-developers.com must be really unsettling.

Moved to iOS

I'll probably get a lot of hate for this, but after 10 years of being an avid Android fan and supporter, I have moved back to iOS and the iPhone 14 Pro Max.
All I can say is I don't regret it one bit. I was the first to make fun of iPhone users in the past, but Apple have made such strides, it's a real pleasure to be back. Yes Apple wait years to implement features that have been available on Android for ages and call it new and revolutionary, but what they do, they do better than anyone else. The biggest thing is just the cohesiveness between the hardware and software. Everything works flawlessly together and the user interface looks great.
What has annoyed me with Android are things like manufacturers not having their own email or messaging apps. You're forced to download a third party app which never really feels in tune with the particular phone/skin/version of Android. And yes you can say the Gmail app is the stock Android email app, but not everyone is a fan, including me. I know it's probably unavoidable due to nature of AOSP, but still, there is a clear divide between the hardware and software for the most part compared to iOS.
The other thing that stopped me using (and mocking) iOS is the fact that a lot of things were a pain in the backside to do and the general incompatibility with a lot of platforms. That seems to have changed as well as I had no issues connecting directly to my NAS drive and Windows PC to access all my files, either while on the same LAN or through 5G when I'm not at home. Youtube Vanced (now ReVanced) was another big thing, but you have options in iOS for that as well.
App tracking was another reason I made the switch. You can simply disable app tracking for all apps with one toggle and all newly installed apps will abide by this as well. Yes, no one really knows if it stops all tracking in its entirety, but it's an option that is not available in Android. You can use a third party app like Blokada to achieve the same result, but you cannot run a VPN service at the same time. Now I can run my VPN service and have app tracking blocked at the same time. Not to mention battery life. I am not a super heavy user, but I get three days out of a single charge with 20% battery left. Even with heavy use, you will struggle to kill this thing's battery in a day as you get 10-14 hours of screen on time depending on how you use it. Standby drain is also nonexistent, the bane of so many Android users' lives, mine included. The cameras and especially video recording is also top notch. Possibly a little boring compared to some of the features you get in Android, but as an everyday point and shoot device, it's hard to beat.
Notifications is the one thing where I would say I still prefer the way it's done in Android, but with everything else working so well I can forgive that. Price is another drawback as Apple charge ridiculous amounts for their hardware, so this is the only time in 10 years where I will keep the same phone for more than a year.
I will still keep my Pixel and have it as a backup phone, but for now I am super happy I made the switch. And I will understand it if not many of you agree.

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And I will understand it if not many of you agree.
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It's not about whether we agree, but whether we care. We don't.

Good luck and let us know when you return....

galaxys said:
Good luck and let us know when you return....
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Or not. That's OK, too.

Biggenz said:
I'll probably get a lot of hate for this, but after 10 years of being an avid Android fan and supporter, I have moved back to iOS and the iPhone 14 Pro Max.
All I can say is I don't regret it one bit. I was the first to make fun of iPhone users in the past, but Apple have made such strides, it's a real pleasure to be back. Yes Apple wait years to implement features that have been available on Android for ages and call it new and revolutionary, but what they do, they do better than anyone else. The biggest thing is just the cohesiveness between the hardware and software. Everything works flawlessly together and the user interface looks great.
What has annoyed me with Android are things like manufacturers not having their own email or messaging apps. You're forced to download a third party app which never really feels in tune with the particular phone/skin/version of Android. And yes you can say the Gmail app is the stock Android email app, but not everyone is a fan, including me. I know it's probably unavoidable due to nature of AOSP, but still, there is a clear divide between the hardware and software for the most part compared to iOS.
The other thing that stopped me using (and mocking) iOS is the fact that a lot of things were a pain in the backside to do and the general incompatibility with a lot of platforms. That seems to have changed as well as I had no issues connecting directly to my NAS drive and Windows PC to access all my files, either while on the same LAN or through 5G when I'm not at home. Youtube Vanced (now ReVanced) was another big thing, but you have options in iOS for that as well.
App tracking was another reason I made the switch. You can simply disable app tracking for all apps with one toggle and all newly installed apps will abide by this as well. Yes, no one really knows if it stops all tracking in its entirety, but it's an option that is not available in Android. You can use a third party app like Blokada to achieve the same result, but you cannot run a VPN service at the same time. Now I can run my VPN service and have app tracking blocked at the same time. Not to mention battery life. I am not a super heavy user, but I get three days out of a single charge with 20% battery left. Even with heavy use, you will struggle to kill this thing's battery in a day as you get 10-14 hours of screen on time depending on how you use it. Standby drain is also nonexistent, the bane of so many Android users' lives, mine included. The cameras and especially video recording is also top notch. Possibly a little boring compared to some of the features you get in Android, but as an everyday point and shoot device, it's hard to beat.
Notifications is the one thing where I would say I still prefer the way it's done in Android, but with everything else working so well I can forgive that. Price is another drawback as Apple charge ridiculous amounts for their hardware, so this is the only time in 10 years where I will keep the same phone for more than a year.
I will still keep my Pixel and have it as a backup phone, but for now I am super happy I made the switch. And I will understand it if not many of you agree.
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Most sincere condolences

I agree with you. System IOS showed myself very good thought last years. I think that IOS more stability than Android OS thought it has not so great functionality.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It's not about whether we agree, but whether we care. We don't.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It's not about whether we agree, but whether we care. We don't.
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Actually, that's a rather self-indulgent/pompous comment to assume that "we" don't care. "You" might not care but I'm glad to hear about the experiences of people that have had both Android and Apple products. I've had Windows mobile phones and am now going on my 4th or 5th Android device, but I've never had an Apple product. I'm very much interested in the point of view of somebody that has lived with both products.

TravisBean said:
*useless drivel snipped"
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Please. At the time this thread was originally posted it was in the Pixel 6 forums...an Android phone. The only reason they made that post was to grab the spotlight. And you fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Please. At the time this thread was originally posted it was in the Pixel 6 forums...an Android phone. The only reason they made that post was to grab the spotlight. And you fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.
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You're the one with Apple on your face

iPhone 14 Pro Max? are you sure?))

Android is just far better than iOS at this stage, it might be cohesive and all but honestly it still sucks

Jool2637 said:
The good thing about Android for me is F-Droid.
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And the ability to install any apk.

I promised myself that I would never use IOS. Android is enough for me and for now, I will stick to this position, but maybe someday I will change my mind just like you.