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Alright guys, getting a little bored with the stock ROM! What is the best ROM floating out there? Are all the ROM's just easily done with a update.zip file, or do you usually have to use Odin?
Depends on what you're looking for... official Captivate firmwares other than JF6 are all internal test builds ATM. As far as ROMs go there's a decent variety of options to choose from, but they all depend on your personal preference.
However you've come in at sort of a transitional period, we've got lag fix kernels, we've got OC kernels, and we've got kernels that make I9000 ROMS work properly on the Captivate, but all of those things aren't yet merged.
I recommend you keep on reading, check out the different threads, figure out what suits you, and if you don't find what you're looking for- wait a week, I'm sure someone will come up with it
Zilch25 said:
Depends on what you're looking for... official Captivate firmwares other than JF6 are all internal test builds ATM. As far as ROMs go there's a decent variety of options to choose from, but they all depend on your personal preference.
However you've come in at sort of a transitional period, we've got lag fix kernels, we've got OC kernels, and we've got kernels that make I9000 ROMS work properly on the Captivate, but all of those things aren't yet merged.
I recommend you keep on reading, check out the different threads, figure out what suits you, and if you don't find what you're looking for- wait a week, I'm sure someone will come up with it
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/agree 100%!!
Really appreciate the replies guys!! I'll keep an eye out! What exactly is so special about the I9000 rom's?
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jbcap43 said:
Really appreciate the replies guys!! I'll keep an eye out! What exactly is so special about the I9000 rom's?
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the i9000 ROMs are generally cleaner (less bloat, a little more streamlined). they're also more recent for the most part. they have other features that really comes down to user preference though. I enjoyed the i9000 ROM I ran much more than the stock captivate one.
I suggest trying it and comparing it to how you used JF6 and go with whichever feels better to you. Each ROM has it's own bugs. Last time I ran an i9000 ROM was JM5 and it refused to clear message/e-mail alerts unless you manually backed all the way out, can't say if it's fixed yet with later releases.
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Really appreciate the replies guys!! I'll keep an eye out! What exactly is so special about the I9000 rom's?
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They're a bit more mature development-wise. The I9000 has been on the market longer is and is ATM Samsungs "baby" so they're getting all the newest updates. In addition their firmwares don't include any of the bloat that the Captivate has since international carriers don't care about stupid crap like "AT&T Navigator"- they also don't care if people can sideload.
Don't get me wrong, cross pollinating I9000 ROMS can have their own little annoyances, like flaky haptic feedback and scuh, but the reorient kernel takes care of the really big issues.
One thing you should REALLY look into before you start flashing ANYTHING is whether or not your phone is capable of using button combinations to get into recovery and download mode. Some of the newer handsets arent. A good starting point would be to turn off your phone... let it shut down completely, then hold both volume buttons and power on. If you get into the recovery menu, GREAT.
Next step (Assuming you passed the first), power off your phone, hold both volume buttons, and plug in USB, if you get the android guy with the shovel that means you're good to go, you'll have to yank battery to reset from this point, but this verifies you can achieve download mode, which means game on for careless flashing!
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One thing you should REALLY look into before you start flashing ANYTHING is whether or not your phone is capable of using button combinations to get into recovery and download mode. Some of the newer handsets arent. A good starting point would be to turn off your phone... let it shut down completely, then hold both volume buttons and power on. If you get into the recovery menu, GREAT.
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I've seen mention of people being unable to achieve that. I presumed they were just getting the timing wrong.
So if you fail that, does it mean you are unable to change ROM?
no,it just means that you will have to be more careful, and that you may not be able to fix your phone if anything goes wrong.
my 2 cents
Well for what it is worth. this is my daily driver as of now.
I went into odin and flashed back to stock.
Flashed the i9000 JM8 rom( the Phone CODE file from JM8 and the CSC from JM5)
Then flashed the stock captivate kernal and the .512 pit file
once that is done i flashed Unhelpfuls kernal over to OC
Then i flashed the Tatumia(sp) rom over it.
Ran the OCLF app from the market and changed my scheduler to deadline.
It is by far the best for real world performance and my quadrants are in the 2200-2300 range(like it matters).
Enjoy
P.s. i have flashed i am sure every other combination of roms and kernals and stuff. Voodoo kernal is freaking awesome but i cant get Clockwork to work with it and that is just not okay with me!
I just found the long thread about this topic here. Haven't read through it all yet. Won't bother unless I find I end up with a phone with that problem.
okay, so what's so special about this ROM the cyanogen mod? When will this be available...?
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okay, so what's so special about this ROM the cyanogen mod? When will this be available...?
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Nobody knows when it will be available since it is only getting Vibrant support to start. Cyanogen mod is probably the most popular ROM for Android, I don't know much about it though. They have a wiki page and a website for information.
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okay, so what's so special about this ROM the cyanogen mod? When will this be available...?
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cyanogenmod is a HUGELY supported ROM based on AOSP (android open source project) with various tweaks to improve usability. as for release, well the only rule about cyanogenmod is that you don't ask for release dates
officially, the Captivate isn't even supported, only the Vibrant is. But as shown, moving things over from Vibrant to Captivate isn't terribly difficult, but still takes time and we'll need someone to maintain it (cyanogen does not release/support devices it doesn't expect to work properly on). support for the vibrant is slated for 6.1 (which will probably be November, it's hard to say)
let me pop in and say there is no "Best Rom" just best for you. We all look for different things in the roms we use so it really is a trial and error. Just make sure to read, read and read some more to make sure you have everything set up right and dont end up with a big brick.
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good luck with your rom search
I finally got axura running beautiful with awesome battery life on the cog kernel and was wondering if anyone knows if its being developed some where else?
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I don't know if it's somewhere else or not been looking too. I am interested in getting the cog kernal on rc1, care to help?
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I don't know if it's somewhere else or not been looking too. I am interested in getting the cog kernal on rc1, care to help?
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Do you have auxura loaded on your phone? Someone in that thread posted clockwork flashable cog 2 kernal on the auxura thread like a day ago
I have both files, auxura and cog kernal although I an not using the kernal as of now. Just not sure how I would go about posting them and if it is allowed to post auxura
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1.flash a clean version of axura if you haven't already
2.Disable lagfix in recovery
3.reboot
4.put the cog kernel on the sd card
5.reboot to recovery
6.intall the kernel zip.
7.reboot
8.enjoy
its as easy as that and will provide some of the best battery life you have ever seen!
If I was to vague let me know and if you need the file pm me with your email so I can send it your way.
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1.flash a clean version of axura if you haven't already
2.Disable lagfix in recovery
3.reboot
4.put the cog kernel on the sd card
5.reboot to recovery
6.intall the kernel zip.
7.reboot
8.enjoy
its as easy as that and will provide some of the best battery life you have ever seen!
If I was to vague let me know and if you need the file pm me with your email so I can send it your way.
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I did a straight Odin with the new Cog Kernel (no OV/UV) onto my AXURA RC1. Not problems at all.
I thought I also might add that I'm running the oc version and have experienced zero freezes from start to finish! I see no need to ever flash another rom, but everyone is different.
Thanks so much, will get on it when I get home! Appreciate it yall!
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No problem! Unforyunately axura died way too early because of immaturity. Axura is simply the best rom in my opinion
i guess i must have been sleeping
what exactly happened to axura and hansmith?
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i guess i must have been sleeping
what exactly happened to axura and hansmith?
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Basically master shut everything down because someone In the vibrant section disrespected him
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So us captivate users have to suffer because of one idiot, thats ghe way everything in life goes
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Axura < Assonance
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okay just got home and downloaded the new kernel, unfortunately, my battery is at about 42 percent. kernel flashing is probably something i should do at full charge right? oh and i totally agree about this being the best damn rom ever and no need for another one... EVER!!! Seriously hope master decides to come back with his ball so we can keep playing the game, if ya catch my drift...
flash at 100% = best bet have fun!
Whats the best cogkernel to put on as far as battery goes? just booted up with the new OC CogKernel2 and the battery is draining like crazy!! I did flash with a full battery, so something isnt right, im losing about 1% every minute or two. also setcpu back to 1ghz because ive never had any luck with overclocking (phone freezes everytime i use an oc version). and still draining like mad. anyone have any ideas, or the non oc version? maybe i'll recalibrate battery in the morning and wipe batt stats as well? any ideas appreciated. i may just have to start over ::
It's only fair for other XDA users to have access to an already released version in my opinion; here is my personal backup link at fileserve.
http://www.fileserve.com/file/ZbHPhdp
I'm not expert but I flashed the oc CogKernel2 yesterday, then recalibrated my battery. It's been off the charger for at least 13.5 hours and it's sitting at 85% right now. It should also be noted that I only used it a little last night, then a little this morning; so about 7 of the 13.5 hours it was just sitting while I slept. That said, what I'm seeing is much better than what I saw with RC1 and the original kernel. In about the same time and usage on the original kernel it easily had dropped to 70% or just below.
yea i must have had a bad flash, because when i woke up this morning the phone had turned itself off and wouldnt boot up. or would boot and freeze. dont have any idea what the deal is, but just now reflashed rc1 and about to swap to the non oc kernel and see if i have any luck. i just wish i could use oc/uv and be stable dammit!!!! just not fair.... lol
If you guys haven't seen it yet, Hans posted a "support only" thread in the dev section of the forum.
yep, been posting in there too. thanks bro
Hello everyone. Yes I know everyone is saying "oh god not another random shutdown thread!" Hehe but believe me I am not one of those that goes on here and just decide to post up a thread and not do any researching! I have been diggin my freaking eyeballs out by staring at over 50 plus pages of forums on here and on google! So far no answers
I believe the problem started ever since I upgraded to the leaked Froyo 2.2 of designgears and rooted it. So far I have not installed any apps such as task killer or anything that could cause this problem. I found out this morning by waking up and my phone is not on after charging it. Alot of people state they are fine with the leaked 2.2 and that it is not froyo thats doing this but then a lot of people also said that the leaked froyo 2.2 has a problem with the power management and is a bug.
I am literally about to go blind if I keep on reading any more threads, well not blind but will get a horrible migraine headache. Now can someone point me to the right direction to what I need to do?
Should I restore back to 2.1 eclaire using Odin's one click method and then do the over the air update from att? Would that fix the problem or do I need to return the phone, which is unlikely because no one is claiming it's the phone. Plus I just literally got the phone like a week ago brand new.
Please help me out and other newcommers to the android scenes Thank you for your time!!
This is a known issue with his oc/uv versions. You can flash back to stock using the One Click Odin and the try one of the non-oc/uv versions to see if you have any better luck.
I'm on the non-oc version of Perception 8 and do not have the charging death trouble.
Thank you very much for this reply. What is oc/uv version mean? Can you elaborate more on it? I will try to revert back to stock 2.1 eclaire but I really want to have the froyo on this phone cause I heard it's much much better?!? Will Perception 8 do that or is it just a simple theme/UI change? I was going to try digigaff's rom and the cognition rom but will that make my phone a froyo or it's still a eclaire?
Oh btw, I also read that you have to use odin to flash to stock rom to use those, does that mean I have to flash back to 2.1 anyways since froyo is not supported?
Edit 1: This is the digigaff rom that I was talking bout, but I noticed he mentioned it being oc also, which I think isn't good to do on these phones bc of the back being metal and gets hot?
oc = overclocked
uv = under volted
No I wouldn't think overclocking would be a great idea. I mean, what kind of applications are you running? It's not like we're trying to solve world hunger or launch the next rocket into orbit. Applications run just fine @ 1ghz. Anyone that tells you any different is probably running an application that is poorly coded.
Perception is based on a Bell (Canadian) I9000 Froyo Rom. Cognition is a great way to get Froyo on your phone as it is way more user friendly. I started with the Cognition roms when I started my flashing.
Just remember to read as much as you can about the rom you want to use, have backups of applications and data (most use Titanium Backup) to restore (not system data as this will cause problems) after you flash and have a good plan on how to recover when something goes wrong. We've all had to flash to stock and start over again at least once.
Good luck and welcome to the forums!
I see so perception is build on the froyo core, but I have to make sure I have to flash back to eclaire 2.1 before flashing back again to the perception? So the leaked 2.2 froyo on this site as well as all the other sites are a result of a oc/uv "beta'' copy and not like a official release?
did you check out digigaff's rom to see if it's ok to use for the captivate or would that rom oc it?
Hey guys im new to the Captivate. I use to be a heavy iphone user i had the iphone 3g then 3gs then 4 and well i decided its time to take the jump to android. All my iphone were jailbroken so obviously im interested in rooting. I rooted my Captivate the day i got it (Last saturday). I really want to get 2.2 Froyo. Now i keep reading about roms. I know how to load them but what are they, anything you can relate them to as iphone. Now on to my main question since im not to android friendly yet i want a stable 2.2 which one would you recommend to be the most stable. Ive seen Cognition and Axura but i dont know what they do nor do i know if theres better. Sorry to seem like a noob but i mainly got this phone for the learning curve of it so tell me everything haha.
Don't flash Axura first! If you do you'll be disappointed in every other rom you try, lol.
Cognition is a great first flash. It installs the lag fix for you and is very stable (get a non OC version). Axura is my favorite. It is very fast, has some IU tweaks, and they have great support. I still recommend Cognition as a first flash though as everything is done for you during the install. You can pretty much install it, change your wallpaper, sync your contacts and be done with it. (Make sure you sync you contacts with google before you flash)
One thing that I overlooked during my first flash is removing the sim card. Don't forget to do this.
Cognition was my first flash, and I haven't found reason to try something else. Its super fast and stable, and was really easy to flash.
I'm running the beta6 version. These phones are not known for long lasting batteries so I always avoid oc roms.
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Cognition was great, but Perception is even better
Before Flashing I would read the post READ BEFORE FLASHING!!!!! under the dev forum - and make sure you understand how to restore before flashing.
And comparing Apple to Android really is trying to compare Apple to Oranges (pun intended).
NOTHING is the same between the two pretty much.
And.. I'd def go with Cognition as a first ROM - as it is a "basic" ROM that is currently using a Captivate kernel.
After you are really comfortable with tweaking your phone - you have your choice of ROMs. Just beware that the i9000 ROMS have their own unique issues - so flasher beware.
A rom, more or less is a package that updates your phones software. most roms are based off of foreign leaks.
When you flash a rom you are not just getting 2.2. In almost all cases you are getting a new kernel, most of which have s lag fix to further improve performance. Your modem will be changed as well, some moderns enable hsupa or basically faster upload and download speeds then what you have with stock.
Roms also have their own theme. Changes in the notification bar, menus, custom animations, boot animations. Etc
Do not flash anything till you read some, I would suggest starting with this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
This is a program that allows you to go back to stock, also allows you to recovery from a bad flash.
My vote on which to flash us axura or assonance. Axura may be the best option as it is a very user friendly thread and there are many people there who will help you if you need it.
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Woops being as impatient as i am i decided to put Axura but no worries im reflashing to stock then ill put Cognition on lol This is good pratice for me. Is there a way to have like 2 roms installed say if i wanted to boot from one to the other then maybe back to stock or am i thinking about computers too much lol
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Woops being as impatient as i am i decided to put Axura but no worries im reflashing to stock then ill put Cognition on lol This is good pratice for me. Is there a way to have like 2 roms installed say if i wanted to boot from one to the other then maybe back to stock or am i thinking about computers too much lol
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If you are on axura why not give ot a shot
You can have multiple roms saved to your sd. Flash stock, load rom. want to change, flash stock, load rom
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what about all your data? i hate reentering my info and apps lol also im on cognition now so too late but i still have the rom in my internal SD
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Don't flash Axura first! If you do you'll be disappointed in every other rom you try, lol.
Cognition is a great first flash. It installs the lag fix for you and is very stable (get a non OC version). Axura is my favorite. It is very fast, has some IU tweaks, and they have great support. I still recommend Cognition as a first flash though as everything is done for you during the install. You can pretty much install it, change your wallpaper, sync your contacts and be done with it. (Make sure you sync you contacts with google before you flash)
One thing that I overlooked during my first flash is removing the sim card. Don't forget to do this.
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started out with cognition and Axura once it was available.
Cognition, Axura, and Perception were my first three roms and didn't think i would wonder from DG.
Still think DG does great work but i have just about everything with the exception of Darkys (though i have seen a few new ones pop in in the last couple of days i haven't played with Insanity and the ginger clone)......
once i found and flashed Chronos i haven't looked back or missed any other rom enough to flash something else.
So my recommendation would be chronos.
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what about all your data? i hate reentering my info and apps lol also im on cognition now so too late but i still have the rom in my internal SD
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Titanium Backup, it is free in the app store.
You can backup your apps+data, but it is not recommend to backup system settings. It only takes a few minutes to set the system settings, not worth any possible problems later on if you choose to restore them IMO.
ok i just flashed to Cognition Do i need to do anything i read something about the battery also keep seeing something about Voodoo care to help me?
I would read more before flashing
go to your my files. Should see a file called voodoo. Go inside, should be logs, go inside. If there are files in there voodoo is working. Not a bad idea to do a couple reboots
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ok i just flashed to Cognition Do i need to do anything i read something about the battery also keep seeing something about Voodoo care to help me?
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The last time I installed Cognition voodoo was installed automatically, not sure if they have changed it since then. Did your captivate talk to you during the first boot? They usually have a voice telling you what is going on while installing voodoo.
Ok voodoo is running because there 2 folders and file in there
2010-12-21_20-22-06
2010-12-21_20-12-33-conversion
voodoo_history_log
Those are the files so i guess im good what about the battery? think i should be ok?
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Ok voodoo is running because there 2 folders and file in there
2010-12-21_20-22-06
2010-12-21_20-12-33-conversion
voodoo_history_log
Those are the files so i guess im good what about the battery? think i should be ok?
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I don't remember doing anything to the battery. They say to make sure it is fully charged before flashing. Maybe there are some tweaks you can do, somebody else who uses Cognition more will have to answer that.
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started out with cognition and Axura once it was available.
Cognition, Axura, and Perception were my first three roms and didn't think i would wonder from DG.
Still think DG does great work but i have just about everything with the exception of Darkys (though i have seen a few new ones pop in in the last couple of days i haven't played with Insanity and the ginger clone)......
once i found and flashed Chronos i haven't looked back or missed any other rom enough to flash something else.
So my recommendation would be chronos.
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You've got me interested. I'm going to try out Chronus. I'm a fan of minimalistic roms... it would take allot to sway me from Axura though. It just runs so smooth.
Hi all Thanks to all.... Newbie here with flashing and all so i just want to get started on the right track... being doing alot of reading just wanted to know what is the safest rom right now for the captivate....
also ive downloaded bay_wolfs AIO captivate tool ...if i use this tool i dont have to go through the the whole process of installing rom manager..zip files etc..do i if i read correctly..well thanks all in advance for the responses.....
It depends on What you want. For a really bare bones rom, use precision. For a close to stock rom, use cognition. For a well themed and polished rom, use serendipity or ultimate. Cognition is the only captivate based one though.
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yeesh - sorry but most of these get locked in 10 posts or less as these become "My ROM is better than Your ROM" epeen arguments.
With that being said.. if a ROM is posted in the Dev forum and as long as it doesn't say Cyanogen Beta or Gingerbread alpha AOSP in it? It is pretty much safe to flash.
Most of these ROM's use either a Rogers, Captivate, or i9000 Source and don't deviate other than tweaks to apps/kernels/modems/lagfixes/themes.
If you want to be safe - I would go with Cognition as a first ROM flash then go from there. It is basically "stock".
Thanks guys for the quick posts....Just a little worried about doing it for the first time i have read, watched videos, this is why im asking before taking the plunge...
i really like Bay_wolfs tool seems great for newbies has anyone used it...i think i may go with cognition is there a better version than the 3.4 what i mean is the newest version seem best or and older one...
I also flashed my first ROM the other week after lots of reading and studying. I went with Andromeda 1.0 at and have since gone to 1.1. I didn't use the tool that you're wondering about, but have downloaded it for future use. So if you do use it, let me know how it goes for you. I went with the installation instrustions on Andromeda's website, and that worked flawlessly. Once you do decide on a ROM, I'm sure that you'll be extremely happy as the performance is way better than stock. Happy flashing and good luck!
Like the other posters said, it's all about what you want and then personal preference. Once you have flashed a few you will start realizing what you do and don't like about the ROMs and what you really want in them. (My first ROM I had no idea, I was like, lets just flash because it's cool and custom and I feel like it. Then I started noticing the differences between my first ROM and stock, realizing what they can actually do with it and what they cannot. From there I figured out what I was really looking for by going custom, and starting browsing the released ROMs to find it)
In short, your first ROM is just that, the first. It wont stay there long so it doesn't really matter which one you choose. Cognition, like stated above, is a good start because it's pretty close to stock. If you want to just straight into a very custom one and screw the baby steps, try something a little more feature rich. Eventually you will get into trying different ROMs with different kernels and test out over-clocking, etc...
I would recommend for your first that you don't go with an OC ROM though, save that for when you feel more comfortable with your ability to flash and tweak things.
I have never used the tool you are talking about because I feel more comfortable doing all the .zip stuff and seeing what is actually being done to my phone, not trusting something else to do it. The tools I do use are Odin3 and One Click Root/Unroot. If you want to try flashing without that tool but aren't sure of the exact steps or why they are necessary you can PM me and I'll help you out.
Welcome to the addiction of ROM flashing! (It's harder to shake then cigarettes once you start)
You guys are great here thanks for all the tips...tonight i will be flashing my first Rom hope all goes well if i have any questions i will ask...once again thanks...
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You guys are great here thanks for all the tips...tonight i will be flashing my first Rom hope all goes well if i have any questions i will ask...once again thanks...
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Was bored, sent you a PM
Jeordy thanks for all info on the Pm ... that was fantastic i sent you a pm let me know what you think.....
I've tried several. So far, out of all of them, I like Andromeda 1.2 with the Speedmod kernel. It seems to be the most functional.
best rom in March
Hi everyone,
I flashed the Cognition ROM on captivate in Jan. I do not know at this moment which one is the best since gingerbread is also here now. Can someone please help.
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Hi everyone,
I flashed the Cognition ROM on captivate in Jan. I do not know at this moment which one is the best since gingerbread is also here now. Can someone please help.
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Do not flash any of the Gingerbread ROMs unless you really know what you are doing. They are still unstable and you risk bricking your phone. As for stable ROMs, there's a wide variety of them, and they're all based on Android 2.2, which is really fast. There is no best ROM, and it all depends on your personal preferences. Try visiting a few of the ROM threads to check them out, and hopefully that will help you decide which one to flash.
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Do not flash any of the Gingerbread ROMs unless you really know what you are doing. They are still unstable and you risk bricking your phone. As for stable ROMs, there's a wide variety of them, and they're all based on Android 2.2, which is really fast. There is no best ROM, and it all depends on your personal preferences. Try visiting a few of the ROM threads to check them out, and hopefully that will help you decide which one to flash.
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A bit of an overstatement, but I concur on there is no best, find what works best for you
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Ok well not 10 or less this time but close.
There is no best rom just best for you. I could say Rom X is the best and does everything I need it to and when you run it, you dont like it or doesnt work well with your set up.
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