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I have recently purchased a Nexus One and i must say it is an amazing phone, but also very expensive! I just spent £370 on buying this brand new phone. Which brings me onto my main point, should i risk rooting or not?
I am confident with the rooting proccess and have rooted my hero etc etc, but i was happy to do so because i could also reinstall an official RUU incase something went wrong. However as we know with the N1 its not that simple. I want to be able to use features such as trackball to wake, and using the lights for notifications, being able to install market enabler and apps like autokiller and also being able to theme my nexus - but to do small things like this i still need to root my phone and void my warrenty.
So ive decided to ask you guys on wether you think it is worth my rooting my nexus one, and voiding my warrenty, or making do with no true customisational potential?
(Also silently hopeing someone finds a way to lock the bootloader :'( )
thanks
Just root it already. No regrets. I asked the same question.
But
But what if anything goes wrong with the phone over the next year? Just seems unecassary that i have to loose my warrenty to be able to make small customisations to the phone
I didn't root my phone in the first 5-6 weeks or so then once I had seen there were no obvious hardware faults I rooted it. It might be safe to take a similar approach.
Is totally up to you.. 2 things:
If you are affraid of bricking your phone due to flashing, don't be. Rule of thumb is always do Nandroid. And flash all you want. The exceptions are Radio's which pose higer risks of bricking.
That leaves hardware issues. If your screen cracks, battery explodes or button cease to function, HTC might switch your phone regardless if you have unlocked boot-loader or not. But im not sure how HTC customer service are in UK. People have done it in US and HTC didn't even raised an eyebrow to this.
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like nDrg says, is to roadtest your phone for some weeks, see if no dust crops up under the screen, or other things starts to defect. Errors on new phones usually reveal themselves in the first weeks.
rooted just after 1 day i receive it lol and Froyo inside my nexus one since Yesterday Yes From France ^^
Hmm
Ok thanks for your feedback. I was having a think and i decided to wait untill froyo comes officially to UK, and if thats not good enough to keep me happy then i will root. Thanks
im considering taking my htc cdma hero back to sprint because it keeps rebooting on me, in the middle of important usage. is it possible rooting might fix this issue? id understand if it wouldnt, because it all reality, this would be a manufactures defect, right? id be more than entitled to a new hero, and rooting would really only slim my chances of getting a replacement, correct?
another issue is lag. i cannot believe how slow my phone has become, its honestly a little sickening. ive been reading all about JIT, and over clocking...its benefits, and its downfalls. im between a rock and a iphone with this one...
would it be wrong to root, see if it fixes my issue, and if it doesnt, install a gsm radio to brick so they'd never know? their perfectly aware of my issue, their the ones telling me to come get a replacement...i just dont want a refurb. i cant see it being considered wrong, as in the end they'd be getting a bricked hero no matter what; wouldnt i really be helping? i dont see them reselling a fried phone, id be saving someone the hassle, right? how many people are working on a refurb and not noticing the difference?
just root it. stock rom is fast as hell until you put a couple apps on it and then it's slower than cold molasses. Plus you can get rid of those bs sprint apps if you choose. get live wallpapers and so fourth plus 2.2 sooner or later which our phones will never see by sprint
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just root it. stock rom is fast as hell until you put a couple apps on it and then it's slower than cold molasses. Plus you can get rid of those bs sprint apps if you choose. get live wallpapers and so fourth plus 2.2 sooner or later which our phones will never see by sprint
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already installing adb at this point, what do i have to lose?
hey everyone!
so i'm loving my nexus one with froyo, best phone i've ever owned. however i think theres something wrong with the capacitive contextual buttons, it doesn't respond to touch input. so its real hard to exit programs or access the menu from within programs.
i went to the nexus one support site and they mention that unlocking the bootloader voids my warranty. is this true? they won't fix my nexus one? even if i unroot it? i read on another forum that htc ignores unlocked bootloaders and will repair formerly root nexus ones. can anyone corroborate this?
might be possible, but get ready to for them to turn you down initially.
The story of my encounter with them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718141
wow!
wow, what a story...how long did this ordeal take you? because i'm going back home in about a month and i am certain the american htc service centre will not behave in this manner, hopefully.
It took too long! About 7 days of "ding donging" and (hopefully as I am in day 2) 3 days to repair I hear good things about HTC support in the States, so hopefully you won't suffer the same ordeal as me.
[Tutorial][Bell Atrix]What need to be done before Warranty Service?
It applies all the Bell Atrix, doesn’t matter you have Orange FR 2.1.1 or UK 2.2.3 on the phone or whatever
Simple Version:
Make sure you have CWM Recovery on it(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1019143)
Download the stock system.img (http://www.multiupload.com/T6L5RS2WH1), if you have the backup by nandroid, you can skip this step
Enter CWM Recovery to restore system.img only, then do Wipe out Data&Cache, or Force Close will be with you!
Install GingerBreak to root your phone, you can download from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
Install CMW Recovery again, but this time, choose CHARGE MODE in order to uninstall the custom recovery
Use GingerBreak to un-root the phone
Do a factory again, then you are ready to throw this phone to any Bell Retail Store for repair
Just remind that Bell will take 4~6weeks to get your phone fixed, if you need a loaner phone, it’s $25+tax, ask before borrow since some store doesn’t even have smartphone to lend…
Full Detail Version coming soon...
Thanks, good tut to have.
Stock Bell Atrix on Rogers with updated radio, Rooted, deodexed, Honeycomb theme, and frozen!
With glad root and webtop mod on stock firmware would it be ok to just return the stock web top files and unrooted for warranty?
Why wouldn't you just a sbfflash...?
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Why wouldn't you just a sbfflash...?
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Because there is no Bell SBF available (to date)
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Because there is no Bell SBF available (to date)
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Yes, but in your tutorial you're just removing root access and custom recovery. You're not changing the firmware from the phone back to 0.3.7 (Bell firmware) because there isn't a Bell SBF to flash (you're right about that). If one was already running 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 with root access, they could simply reflash their respective SBF's and it would produce the same results as your tutorial. Maybe I'm missing something from your guide, but as far as I understand, once you've flashed a different SBF, there is no way of getting back to official Bell. Your guide seems to be a roundabout way to get back to stock 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 for warranty purposes, while a simple reflash would produce the same results.
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Yes, but in your tutorial you're just removing root access and custom recovery. You're not changing the firmware from the phone back to 0.3.7 (Bell firmware) because there isn't a Bell SBF to flash (you're right about that). If one was already running 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 with root access, they could simply reflash their respective SBF's and it would produce the same results as your tutorial. Maybe I'm missing something from your guide, but as far as I understand, once you've flashed a different SBF, there is no way of getting back to official Bell. Your guide seems to be a roundabout way to get back to stock 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 for warranty purposes, while a simple reflash would produce the same results.
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absolutely true.
best chances for full repair is flash stock SBF 2.2.3 and then if you really wanna get technical, simply edit your prop file for cosmetic purposes.
NFHimself has this crazy way of flashing close to stock images but thats pretty much retarded as there's no point as it really doesnt mean any closer to stock than this crap and is fickle/easy to detect as it is if Motorola was looking for it.
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Yes, but in your tutorial you're just removing root access and custom recovery. You're not changing the firmware from the phone back to 0.3.7 (Bell firmware) because there isn't a Bell SBF to flash (you're right about that). If one was already running 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 with root access, they could simply reflash their respective SBF's and it would produce the same results as your tutorial. Maybe I'm missing something from your guide, but as far as I understand, once you've flashed a different SBF, there is no way of getting back to official Bell. Your guide seems to be a roundabout way to get back to stock 2.1.1 or 2.2.3 for warranty purposes, while a simple reflash would produce the same results.
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You are right, however stock system.img(from original bell firmware, not 2.1.1 or 2.2.3) already has the right prop file and bell bloatware, comparing 2.1.1 or 2.2.3, im too lazy to look for bloatware and changing by root. this seems the easiest way for me.
other than the radio version, i dont think motorola could find out this is flashed Atrix but anyway, I am still waiting for my atrix back
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With glad root and webtop mod on stock firmware would it be ok to just return the stock web top files and unrooted for warranty?
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better do a factory reset and unroot
I work for bell. and all I have to say about this thread is that it should be closed and deleted. I actually thought these kind of guides were frowned upon...
If the phone was working 100% before you starting screwing with it, we shouldn't have to honor your warranty. Thats why ROOTING VOIDS Warranty.
If you screw up your windows load, Best buy doesn't say, heres a new pc. They say, here's a bill for the techie. We work on commission in these stores, and i hate wasting my time with some moron who shouldnt have screwed with what he couldn't fix. /rant
Its annoying to deal with people who brick their phones, and then give bs excuses as to why its not working. I usually do my best to help people, but its better to tell us the truth and have us help, then lie through your teeth that its a problem with the device.
It costs me extra hours of work to deal with DOA phones, and it costs everyone including motorola tons of $$$ for stuff that is screwed up by the consumer.
Why can't the people who don't know what theyre doing, leave the dangerous stuff to the guys who know how to fix their own problems?
Edit: the exception to this is true hardware issues. But those don't seem to come up all too often with this phone, just battery life issues.
But thats the thing if you brick your device, this guide won't help as the phone is a brick.
As for hardware issues, this is the exact reason for this thread IMHO, something useful to me as my fingerprint reader is slightliy off physically which results in the device thinking that fast swipes are taking place when they are not. now I can use this when I am ready to take my device in without being harrassed about software.
With my N1 even with the bootloader unlocked they still took in the device if it was proven to be a hardware defect (again had a problem with my power button - just my luck i guess) Doubt bell would do the same.
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I work for bell. and all I have to say about this thread is that it should be closed and deleted. I actually thought these kind of guides were frowned upon...
If the phone was working 100% before you starting screwing with it, we shouldn't have to honor your warranty. Thats why ROOTING VOIDS Warranty.
If you screw up your windows load, Best buy doesn't say, heres a new pc. They say, here's a bill for the techie. We work on commission in these stores, and i hate wasting my time with some moron who shouldnt have screwed with what he couldn't fix. /rant
Its annoying to deal with people who brick their phones, and then give bs excuses as to why its not working. I usually do my best to help people, but its better to tell us the truth and have us help, then lie through your teeth that its a problem with the device.
It costs me extra hours of work to deal with DOA phones, and it costs everyone including motorola tons of $$$ for stuff that is screwed up by the consumer.
Why can't the people who don't know what theyre doing, leave the dangerous stuff to the guys who know how to fix their own problems?
Edit: the exception to this is true hardware issues. But those don't seem to come up all too often with this phone, just battery life issues.
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who would use this for anything other than a hardware issue? anyone who can follow this guide can also follow a SBF flash instruction to solve their software issues
binary110 said:
I work for bell. and all I have to say about this thread is that it should be closed and deleted. I actually thought these kind of guides were frowned upon...
If the phone was working 100% before you starting screwing with it, we shouldn't have to honor your warranty. Thats why ROOTING VOIDS Warranty.
If you screw up your windows load, Best buy doesn't say, heres a new pc. They say, here's a bill for the techie. We work on commission in these stores, and i hate wasting my time with some moron who shouldnt have screwed with what he couldn't fix. /rant
Its annoying to deal with people who brick their phones, and then give bs excuses as to why its not working. I usually do my best to help people, but its better to tell us the truth and have us help, then lie through your teeth that its a problem with the device.
It costs me extra hours of work to deal with DOA phones, and it costs everyone including motorola tons of $$$ for stuff that is screwed up by the consumer.
Why can't the people who don't know what theyre doing, leave the dangerous stuff to the guys who know how to fix their own problems?
Edit: the exception to this is true hardware issues. But those don't seem to come up all too often with this phone, just battery life issues.
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QFT, but......we are referring to hardware isssues here, not software.......and rooting has nothing to do with that.
Sent from my Blue Myst GladiAtrix on Bell using the XDA Premium App.
I agree, its totally cool for hardware issues, but i'm thinking about the guys who have the lower half of the touch screen not working because they screwed the software up. 9/10 issues with any smartphone is software related.
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I agree, its totally cool for hardware issues, but i'm thinking about the guys who have the lower half of the touch screen not working because they screwed the software up. 9/10 issues with any smartphone is software related.
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since no one seems to be able to replicate this issue (to my knowledge) that would imply that it IS hardware related and not software
Rediculous
binary110 Your completly in the dark if you think this phone or any other smartphone wont have defects and hardware malfunctions.
My Atrix has wicked bad screen response when plugged into any power source with stock charger or other... im not returning mine as this is a minor issue. Although my roomates cant hold gps, drops calls constantly, misses calls and msgs for lack of signal and has constant reboots since stock with only root to obtain webtop mod.
So according to your logic he dosent deserve to have his 500+ $ phone replaced cuz it will cost motorola money and your lazy ass some commision ??
THIS IS THE WRONG FORUM FOR YOU !
binary110 Your completly in the dark if you think this phone or any other smartphone wont have defects and hardware malfunctions.
My Atrix has wicked bad screen response when plugged into any power source with stock charger or other... im not returning mine as this is a minor issue. Although my roomates cant hold gps, drops calls constantly, misses calls and msgs for lack of signal and has constant reboots since stock with only root to obtain webtop mod.
So according to your logic he dosent deserve to have his 500+ $ phone replaced cuz it will cost motorola money and your lazy ass some commision ??
THIS IS THE WRONG FORUM FOR YOU !
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I never said the phone was not capable of being defective. I said that when someone brings it in for an issue that they caused themselves. The phones are more often screwed up by a customer, than they are actually defective.
90% of the charger issues are from using a charger different than the motorola one that came with the phone. Especially the ones with the screen response. I noted it on my atrix as well. I also have replaced a customers phone for this.
This IS a valid reason to replace the phone.
But this is also easily noticeable BEFORE you go through the process of rooting/modding the phone. and as such, you should take it up with the place your purchased it before modding it.
Its like buying a car, ripping the engine apart right away. only to find that it runs like crap after you've ripped it apart... You probably should have done a test drive before purchasing. Do you understand what i mean?
Furthermore, your friend has a legitimate issue, I'm talking about people who brick their phones and play stupid. As well, I can tell you're a part of the generation who feels they're entitled to everything under the sun from the carrier you deal with. Yet, no cable company fixes your damn television. And especially not if you screw it up yourself.
Its not apples to apples, in the sense that the cable company doesn't subsidize your tv. but even if you got a tv as a promotion through them, they'd send you to the manufacturer. Which is what i'd prefer to do with people who do stupid stuff and want it fixed.
Don't act like my time isnt worth money just because youre a needy consumer. What i'm saying is just man up, tell us you screwed it up, and we will do everything we can help.
For you to be trolling the way that you are, its obvious that this ISNT THE FORUM FOR YOU.
Thank you.
By the way, Watch your language on the forums.
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absolutely true.
best chances for full repair is flash stock SBF 2.2.3 and then if you really wanna get technical, simply edit your prop file for cosmetic purposes.
NFHimself has this crazy way of flashing close to stock images but thats pretty much retarded as there's no point as it really doesnt mean any closer to stock than this crap and is fickle/easy to detect as it is if Motorola was looking for it.
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Uhm, what? How did I get dragged into this PMS fest?
Ridiculous.
Be nice guys... We are all Canadian, we love peace, don't we?!
In my case, my touchscreen's digitalize is 100% broken, it's either hypersensitive or non-sensitive at all... It happened on Bell Stock rom but I was trying to flash sfb to see if it could be fixed...
Unfortunately, i got my repair back today and still the same issue, i asked the bell staff to try the touchscreen and she said the phone is not boot up properly...
Oh well, after 90s, I ask her to try again, she clicked "BACK" 10 times in order to get back, and 5 times to run Bell Self-serve
well, I really unsatisfied with the result and I had to left the phone there and waiting for another 2 weeks, AGAIN!!!
I have 3yr contract with Bell so it has to waste time and money to get my phone fixed cuz its carelessness and impatience are wasting my money and time... The $30 loaner phone sucks and cannot even been changed...
well, looks like a little away from the topic but I've just out of the store...
even according to the repair menu, the bell stock sbf has been applied on and change of the part which i know its not the digitalize, the phone is still unusable...
AT&T users are lucky since they have their own stock sbf to flash when they wanna a repair but poor Bell users they have to use those tutorials like mine to do repair, OR UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER AND I WONT ASK FOR WARRANTY
btw, maybe that's the reason why Apple is cool, they can get your iPhone replaced in maximum 60min not 60days even there is just a dust in screen
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Uhm, what? How did I get dragged into this PMS fest?
Ridiculous.
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see what you caused?
jk
I understand where binary was coming from but again this thread isn't for that reason. At the same time I bet we can all say we wish carriers like bell and rogers were completely full of staff like you that come with the line we will do whatever we can to help. most times reps come off as just going through the motions or looking for whatever reason to close the case.
Might be upgrading from an Atrix to a Raider in the next few days.
Any known issues with the Raider?
(like the Sensation's screen dust issue, etc.)
Biggest complaints?
What about this phone makes you recommend it? (..that is if you do even recommend it lol)
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Any known issues with the Raider?
(like the Sensation's screen dust issue, etc.)
Biggest complaints?
What about this phone makes you recommend it? (..that is if you do even recommend it lol)
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Not really. The only thing I get on occasion is that my LCD's colors will randomly wash out for 5 minutes or so for no good reason. Still readable, but just washed out.
Development community is not exceptionally large and neither AOSP nor Sense 4 has been ported. Likewise, whatever carrier you're on probably has better phones on offer nowadays.
It's a fine phone, sure. But if you're in the market to get a phone now, you're much better off getting the One X( or the One XL if you need/want LTE connectivity). And of course, there is the forthcoming SGS3. (Read: I don't currently recommend this phone.)
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Not really. The only thing I get on occasion is that my LCD's colors will randomly wash out for 5 minutes or so for no good reason. Still readable, but just washed out.
Development community is not exceptionally large and neither AOSP nor Sense 4 has been ported. Likewise, whatever carrier you're on probably has better phones on offer nowadays.
It's a fine phone, sure. But if you're in the market to get a phone now, you're much better off getting the One X( or the One XL if you need/want LTE connectivity). And of course, there is the forthcoming SGS3. (Read: I don't currently recommend this phone.)
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I notice the Android development section seems pretty small, even compared to the Atrix.
As far as better phones from my carrier- there are better ones but this would be buying from someone used for a great price. I am not trying to re-new my contract with my carrier right now
It's a great device
Headphones might disconnect with any type of movements even a deep breath otherwise I'm happy with it
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I notice the Android development section seems pretty small, even compared to the Atrix.
As far as better phones from my carrier- there are better ones but this would be buying from someone used for a great price. I am not trying to re-new my contract with my carrier right now
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This device's dev section has been through its trials and tribulations. Coupled with some ham-fisted modding, I think it's not going to grow any larger than it is now.
I did not know that you were going to get the device second-hand. I was just under the presumption that you were going to walk into a store and pick up the device new, as I would not have been able to recommend this over a new A-grade offering.
In this case, it's a fine phone. Unlike my OG SGS, the phone holds a charge, has a beautiful UI, and I really didn't feel bad about not having root or S-Off. Sure, I rooted and S-Off-ed, but I didn't find it especially necessary. Even specwise, it's not far off of the current generation of devices, really only lacking due to the Snapdragon S3 (vs any of the other offerings of today) and the screen (at a "measly" qHD instead of 720p).
I haven't really had any problems besides the screen thing, nor have I had the headphone issue that come at me bro has.
My basic verdict is this: If you're a tinkerer/flashaholic, you might want to look at an SGS2 instead. If you like a phone that works right out of the box, look no further.
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This device's dev section has been through its trials and tribulations. Coupled with some ham-fisted modding, I think it's not going to grow any larger than it is now.
I did not know that you were going to get the device second-hand. I was just under the presumption that you were going to walk into a store and pick up the device new, as I would not have been able to recommend this over a new A-grade offering.
In this case, it's a fine phone. Unlike my OG SGS, the phone holds a charge, has a beautiful UI, and I really didn't feel bad about not having root or S-Off. Sure, I rooted and S-Off-ed, but I didn't find it especially necessary. Even specwise, it's not far off of the current generation of devices, really only lacking due to the Snapdragon S3 (vs any of the other offerings of today) and the screen (at a "measly" qHD instead of 720p).
I haven't really had any problems besides the screen thing, nor have I had the headphone issue that come at me bro has.
My basic verdict is this: If you're a tinkerer/flashaholic, you might want to look at an SGS2 instead. If you like a phone that works right out of the box, look no further.
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I should have mentioned I would not be getting it brand new in the original post.
I had a SGS2 at the same time as my Atrix, I ended up selling it (great device though, also the resolution of the qhd of the atrix was nicer).
It seems like there isnt too much to complain about this phone.
Will it be getting ICS soon? I would look forward to that.
How about sense 3.5 (or at least just the amaze 3.5 camera) I dont want to flash one of these non-official ICS because I havent seen any for any device that is very stable and wont require me flashing every new version for it to be stable.
I do like to mod the phone but if like you mention the phone performs well without the need of a custom ROM, I would just keep the official ROM on it. I would like to root for titanium backup and setcpu control though.
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Will it be getting ICS soon? I would look forward to that.
How about sense 3.5 (or at least just the amaze 3.5 camera) I dont want to flash one of these non-official ICS because I havent seen any for any device that is very stable and wont require me flashing every new version for it to be stable.
I do like to mod the phone but if like you mention the phone performs well without the need of a custom ROM, I would just keep the official ROM on it. I would like to root for titanium backup and setcpu control though.
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If you're talking Raider, I'm presuming you're either Canadian, European, or South Korean.
AFAIK, South Korea's ICS has been CANCELLED. As for Europe and Canada's, nobody has heard a peep from the carriers or HTC. Safe to say, no.
The "non-official ICS" builds you see here ARE official HTC ICS Sense 3.6 builds; they're just built for the identical Telstra Velocity or AT&T Vivid, which have the exact same internals and function interchangeably (LTE support included). Provided that you S-Off (which instantly and irrevocably voids the warranty, as you have to interact with the circuit board), it's very easy to put ICS on in fully functioning capability.
Sense 3.5 can be found in GB ROMs like HoliRaider, which only need your bootloader to be unlocked, and a recovery to be flashed.
Rooting is ezmode. Just HTCdev unlock your bootloader, flash a recovery, and use the zergrush exploit. Search the forums for anything you don't understand.
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If you're talking Raider, I'm presuming you're either Canadian, European, or South Korean.
AFAIK, South Korea's ICS has been CANCELLED. As for Europe and Canada's, nobody has heard a peep from the carriers or HTC. Safe to say, no.
The "non-official ICS" builds you see here ARE official HTC ICS Sense 3.6 builds; they're just built for the identical Telstra Velocity or AT&T Vivid, which have the exact same internals and function interchangeably (LTE support included). Provided that you S-Off (which instantly and irrevocably voids the warranty, as you have to interact with the circuit board), it's very easy to put ICS on in fully functioning capability.
Sense 3.5 can be found in GB ROMs like HoliRaider, which only need your bootloader to be unlocked, and a recovery to be flashed.
Rooting is ezmode. Just HTCdev unlock your bootloader, flash a recovery, and use the zergrush exploit. Search the forums for anything you don't understand.
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Canadian.
Thanks a bunch for all the help.
I did not know S-OFF immediately voids the warranty. I guess if I do pick it up the first thing I can do is call HTC to see what warranty is remaining on it. If the warranty is up or just about finished than it wont make a difference.
Unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty?
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It looks like Nottach's ICS can be flashed even with s-on? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586613&highlight=s-on
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Canadian.
Thanks a bunch for all the help.
I did not know S-OFF immediately voids the warranty. I guess if I do pick it up the first thing I can do is call HTC to see what warranty is remaining on it. If the warranty is up or just about finished than it wont make a difference.
Unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty?
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It looks like Nottach's ICS can be flashed even with s-on? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586613&highlight=s-on
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S-Off itself does not. The process to do it does, as you have to remove a panel on the back that is screwed in with a screw that has a "void" sticker on it. Of course, there are ways to circumnavigate that issue, but it's still pretty much void (they could probably tell if the screw has been used before; the black paint on it comes off really easily).
Unlocking the bootloader IIRC "limits" the amount of support that HTC can offer, but I don't think it voids the warranty outright. Might be wrong, though.
No, it can't, not for a phone other than a Telstra Velocity or AT&T Vivid. The essential thing to install ICS in the first place, is the HBOOT, which has to be ICS compatible. Other regions' Holidays don't have an updated HBOOT, and it cannot be flashed to a device from elsewhere without S-Off, as a RUU must match the model's CID. What S-Off allows you to do is to overwrite the CID with the "superCID", which then permits the flashing of any region's RUU, and the flashing of a new ICS HBOOT. At that point, then you're home free to install anything.
If I was currently in the market for a new phone, I would be waiting for the SGS 3's actual release so I could go hold one in my hand to see if it's as huge as it appears. Then I'd wait a week or so and see how the dev community is looking for it. If I hated the SGS 3 (which I'm guessing I will) then I'd go for the One X. Obviously, just my opinion.
I really do like my Vivid and the community support seems to be making a positive sweep, but there are little details of owning this phone that have me miffed. Nothing directly related to the phone itself, though.
just a heads up !!
at&t's onex's bootloader unlock is not supported by htc and as of now they say that it never will !!
htc doesn't take name for this and blames at&t for keeping the bootloader locked !
so an at&t htc onex (xl) is obviously not a developer's material !!
read more here : http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_talks_about_the_one_x_bootloader_at_t_is_to_blame-news-4211.php
and here : http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/05/att-htc-one-x-locked-bootloader/
this really sucks !
aaki_rocker said:
just a heads up !!
at&t's onex's bootloader unlock is not supported by htc and as of now they say that it never will !!
htc doesn't take name for this and blames at&t for keeping the bootloader locked !
so an at&t htc onex (xl) is obviously not a developer's material !!
read more here : http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_talks_about_the_one_x_bootloader_at_t_is_to_blame-news-4211.php
and here : http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/05/att-htc-one-x-locked-bootloader/
this really sucks !
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Well, damn there you go. This is the same thing that happened with the Vivid after its release. The Vivid and the SGS2 were released "fairly" close to each other and most jumped ship from the Vivid once it was determined the BL was locked and went with the SGS 2. I guess the One X (or any other future HTC on AT&T) is most likely destined for dev abandonment from the beginning.
Jirv311 said:
Well, damn there you go. This is the same thing that happened with the Vivid after its release. The Vivid and the SGS2 were released "fairly" close to each other and most jumped ship from the Vivid once it was determined the BL was locked and went with the SGS 2. I guess the One X (or any other future HTC on AT&T) is most likely destined for dev abandonment from the beginning.
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This is why I plan to switch to Verizon at some point. Verizon has had LTE in both my area of residence and work for a while now. AT&T? Zippo.
Just my input, I came from the inspire and bought this one outright. I wanted qHD and in my situation it will be awhile till my upgrade. Also I am still in return policy if the oneX is that much better. So far I love it (two weeks in). Screen is very nice, not sure how much better 720p will be. One very important observation is the roms I've used for the vivid so far are of very high quality, so not a lot, but quality over quantity I guess. I'm on darkraider now and I'm loving it, there's tons of customization built in. The word on the locked bootloader of the oneX has me thinking I'm gonna stick with the vivid. Also when it came to s-off I was very careful and got the sticker back on completely intact. I've never had an issue with an HTC phone so knock on wood I feel pretty safe with this one. Other than that battery life for me has been great, usually 50% at the end of the day with moderate usage, and it's very fast especially with ics, not overclocked. Overall I'm very happy with it and very sure I'm gonna keep it.
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Aus_Azn said:
This is why I plan to switch to Verizon at some point. Verizon has had LTE in both my area of residence and work for a while now. AT&T? Zippo.
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I hear ya there. I've thought about Verizon mainly because my company would probably pick up the cost for me.
Mine will be here tomorrow. Also coming from Inspire. Got it 56$ shipped from Att (plus the 36$ upgrade fee that's added to my bill). I myself will never own anything but HTC.