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So, I was wondering with the HTC Incredible out for Verizon right now, would it be easier to port Sense over from that to the N1 than from the Desire since they share many of the same parts? I know the Desire port is almost fully functional, but missing some things, would the same occur with the port from the Incredible. Or does it matter that it's CDMA?
I would love to have Sense on my Nexus, but these questions are moreso just me trying to get my head around how this port thing works.
N1 has more things in common with desire than incredible.
Aside from a few minor hardware differences (physical buttons, no noise cancelling mic) the desire is basically the same phone as the N1 but with different software and a non unlockable bootloader.
you should be saying HD2 port to incredible or visaversa
lostinbeta said:
would it be easier to port Sense over from that to the N1 than from the Desire since they share many of the same parts?
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It would be more difficult since the N1 is closer to the Desire than the Incredible. Also, the Desire rom has already been available for months.
I would love to have Sense on my Nexus
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Why not try the Desire rom that's available now?
Starting from square 0 on Incredible would mean a port that's less functional than the Desire rom for at least many months.
Good info to know. I have no idea why I thought the Incredible was closer than the Desire... me being stupid apparently...lol. And I do plan on trying the Desire port, my N1 just arrived today. I will keep it stock for a bit just to make sure it doesn't have any of those pesky issues that can be fixed via warranty, but I'll get the itch to root and ROM it soon enough. My FUZE didn't last very long before I did so... I doubt this will either...haha.
Paul22000 said:
It would be more difficult since the N1 is closer to the Desire than the Incredible. Also, the Desire rom has already been available for months.
Why not try the Desire rom that's available now?
Starting from square 0 on Incredible would mean a port that's less functional than the Desire rom for at least many months.
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Though I do wonder, if the Incredible's version of Sense is a newer/updated version of the UI, then would we expect to see those changes implemented in the Desire? Hence making another version of the ROM closer to what the Incredible has.
I'm assuming somebody will release the Incredible ROM more to make the current Sense ROM better.
Just a guess...
There was such a good selection on the desire.there appears to be such a limited selection on the galaxy s...none seem that good.
Can people recommend which is best and why? Looking for a fast and stable rom.
My rom is xxjm1 by the way.
Not yet, stock is still the most trouble free for now. Won't last long though.
Its my understand (and hopefullness) that most devs FroYo. Most (if not all) are just themed and optimized roms at the moment.
We want froyo !
Yes, most devs are waiting for froyo, just because everyone will want to upgrade, and there is just no justification to make a custom rom with 2.1 just for a few weeks.
Have you not tried SamSet? Dude there are about 4 different Custom ROMs on XDA :| how can you say there are no good ones as you haven't even tried any?
Devs are waiting for FroYo and Cyanogen Mod, that'll increase the ROM majority. The Desire has FroYo (Official) AND Cyanogen Mod, so there are tons of ROMs. Stock isn't the best atm, SamSets is the best for now.
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Have you not tried SamSet? Dude there are about 4 different Custom ROMs on XDA :| how can you say there are no good ones as you haven't even tried any?
Devs are waiting for FroYo and Cyanogen Mod, that'll increase the ROM majority. The Desire has FroYo (Official) AND Cyanogen Mod, so there are tons of ROMs. Stock isn't the best atm, SamSets is the best for now.
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first off, 4 roms is nothing.
Secondly, setzuna or whatever he is called produced a bog standard rom for the desire.
I want quality original roms. Hopefully asop pure roms like cyanogen.
The galaxy s roms are poop at the moment.
Really...
Desire has 6month head start, also helps when the desire is clone of nexus one which is reference dev gadget so what do you expect. Have look at other latest devices that came out in last 2 months and tell me if they even have roms yet, you have been spoilt.
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Agreed, ROM selection for the Hero (my last phone) were much better. I've tried HackEclair, Doc's StockRomMod and SamSet (currently the one I'm using).
From reading the forums, it really does look like all the devs are just waiting on the official Froyo release. I also read somewhere that the ROMs must be based off of official firmwares or else they won't work, which would make sense why it's difficult to get Sense-like interfaces on the phone.
Either way, it's only a few weeks - if that - until the official Froyo!
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first off, 4 roms is nothing.
Secondly, setzuna or whatever he is called produced a bog standard rom for the desire.
I want quality original roms. Hopefully asop pure roms like cyanogen.
The galaxy s roms are poop at the moment.
Really...
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Seriously? did you not even read my post at all?
you CAN'T produce a 'bog' standard ROM for the SGS yet, It's been done for the other Galaxy S version(s) (ASOP ROM) but that's in BETA stage and some features don't even work. We have to wait for Cyanogen.
If you really want 'quality' original ROMs make them yourself. The devs here do it in their free time and aren't doing this to tailor your every suit and need, and you don't pay them for it and they do it out of sole interest. SetENZA makes ROMs because he obviously enjoys it and the challenge, and shares it with the community, and you can't compare the SGS and Desire development, they're both entirely different and the SGS is newer, meaning the Desire has more backing.
How are they 'poop' if you haven't even tested a single custom ROM?
I agree that we need more development but seriously, if you are implying that no dev is making a good custom ROM at the moment then you are VERY wrong. SamSet is the most stable one for now, DocRambone is stripped entirely so check his ROMs out. You need to read up a bit more, we all know that there is slow ROM development and for a REASON.
Hurry up Sammy.
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Seriously? did you not even read my post at all?
you CAN'T produce a 'bog' standard ROM for the SGS yet, It's been done for the other Galaxy S version(s) (ASOP ROM) but that's in BETA stage and some features don't even work. We have to wait for Cyanogen.
If you really want 'quality' original ROMs make them yourself. The devs here do it in their free time and aren't doing this to tailor your every suit and need, and you don't pay them for it and they do it out of sole interest. SetENZA makes ROMs because he obviously enjoys it and the challenge, and shares it with the community, and you can't compare the SGS and Desire development, they're both entirely different and the SGS is newer, meaning the Desire has more backing.
How are they 'poop' if you haven't even tested a single custom ROM?
I agree that we need more development but seriously, if you are implying that no dev is making a good custom ROM at the moment then you are VERY wrong. SamSet is the most stable one for now, DocRambone is stripped entirely so check his ROMs out. You need to read up a bit more, we all know that there is slow ROM development and for a REASON.
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hi,
Please don't make these assumptions. I have tried a couple of the roms and am back to my original stock rom now because none of them seem better than it.
I also wasn't suggesting that people weren't making roms or that things won't get better. I am just disappointed its taking a long time. I had good 2.1 roms within a month of me having a desire, asop 2.2 within 2 months.
Anyhow, the roms have a long way to go it seems... They aren't the best at the moment but I'm sure they will be great soon enough.
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hi,
Please don't make these assumptions. I have tried a couple of the roms and am back to my original stock rom now because none of them seem better than it.
I also wasn't suggesting that people weren't making roms or that things won't get better. I am just disappointed its taking a long time. I had good 2.1 roms within a month of me having a desire, asop 2.2 within 2 months.
Anyhow, the roms have a long way to go it seems... They aren't the best at the moment but I'm sure they will be great soon enough.
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Okay, fair enough
Yeah but with patience we will see a fair share of ROMs in the next month, i guess these things take time, the Desire did get pretty popular though as it is HTC and Samsung is known for being crap with updates, but now the SGS is getting better and slowly it will overtake the Desire, i assure you.
Once Froyo is released, i think we can expect more than 4 ROMs
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Okay, fair enough
Yeah but with patience we will see a fair share of ROMs in the next month, i guess these things take time, the Desire did get pretty popular though as it is HTC and Samsung is known for being crap with updates, but now the SGS is getting better and slowly it will overtake the Desire, i assure you.
Once Froyo is released, i think we can expect more than 4 ROMs
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Impt point to note is when Froyo is released by Samsung, because Samsung is known for its delays and lack of enthusiasm, that we all take for granted from HTC =( I miss my HD2 and Desire
jana999 said:
Impt point to note is when Froyo is released by Samsung, because Samsung is known for its delays and lack of enthusiasm, that we all take for granted from HTC =( I miss my HD2 and Desire
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Disagreed.
Yes, Samsung has been crap in the past but with this phone they're pushing a lot out. We are yet to see how they respond to the Froyo update and how they maintain it, so you may be right, but i think that in this case Samsung will release it and *hopefully* maintain it, if not then XDA is here to maintain all phones, of course
HD2 has potential for Android as it's been ported, but WinMo is horrible and the Sense interface just makes it that little bit better, so glad i ditched WinMo for Android. Desire is awesome but the inferior screen and sensitivity made me get the SGS because the hardware is just that little bit better
Alright so my buddy has a bionic he just got. He just traded his fascinate. Im familiar with bootstrappers but is there anyway to boot strap and put cm7 on here?
Honestly it seems like any phone with a locked bootloader falls behind bad....
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The Droid X had a locked bootloader but it had tons of support, but since then development has been split a lot with all the phones releasing so close to each other. There is not currently a working cm7 build and probably won't be since the cm9 build is running on the bionic (still not 3g/4g though)
So far I think the smoothest rom is a toss up between Eclipse and Kin3tx. The only downside with Kin3tx and any TH3ORY roms seems to be that development has either drastically slowed down or stopped altogether due to the Nexus.
Eraursls - Nice pic in the sig. I'm in the process of piecing a bag setup together on my '99 Sonoma.
Sorry....back on topic...
With motorola locking these bootloaders, there is almost nothing that great out for these as far as I can see..
Not trying to be an ass but why does motorola do this kind of stuff? Great phone, but locking that bootloader just kills it.....
You want to go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328100
If you are interested in ROMs, install Safestrap after you root.
Lockett said:
Eraursls - Nice pic in the sig. I'm in the process of piecing a bag setup together on my '99 Sonoma
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Thanks, its an 01 and I first bagged it 9-10 years ago. I've started a stock floor body drop but its gonna take awhile.
Why has there not been any new htc vivid development ? The roms that are available seem to all be on hold ? This is a great phone, the rom im using is great but wondering about any new development or updates.
Cause this phone is hard to dev for....
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mrwranglers42 said:
Why has there not been any new htc vivid development ? The roms that are available seem to all be on hold ? This is a great phone, the rom im using is great but wondering about any new development or updates.
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if you want different roms theres always miui or de-sensed just google them cant post links here
The other reason is because a lot of the devs who worked on this phone have move on to the HTC One or SGIII. This phone is over a year old, which is a lifetime in phoneyears, unfortunately.
this badass named mg2195 is deving a cm10 rom ^-^
Load of crap
ess.boyer said:
The other reason is because a lot of the devs who worked on this phone have move on to the HTC One or SGIII. This phone is over a year old, which is a lifetime in phoneyears, unfortunately.
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That is a load of crap I have been through alot of phones and they all have alot more roms to offer than the vivid.
dealtsoul said:
That is a load of crap I have been through alot of phones and they all have alot more roms to offer than the vivid.
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Woahhh there don't get angry xD It's due to the age (most dev's want the newest and best phone) and also due to the fact that this phone just wasnt that popular...
If its not popular why is the HTC hd2 still getting development and that was launched waaaaay back. And how is this phone hard to dev for???
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The phone is just full of shotty hacked up htc code. They just threw together a bit of everything to make it work, which kinda ruined it for everyone wanting to create custom non-sense based roms
Instead of posting multiple threads in here about why there aren't more ROMs, why not go talk to the makers of ROMs such as JellyBro and JellyBam to see if they will support our device, now that we're cm10 official. Or go create your own.
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Is anybody else waiting for HTC to release the 4.2.2 base and seeing what the devs do with it before flashing a custom ROM? I've had my One for about 2 weeks now and it's still unrooted and running the stock ROM (this is the longest I've gone so far).
Just wondering if I'm alone in thinking that the devs will come up with better ROMs based on 4.2 than they currently have out for 4.1
Other than quick toggles, I didn't see many stand out features vin the preview.
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4.2 isn't a huge step forward. There really is no point in waiting to root and unlock. It's still 'JellyBean' with a few extra features so the difference will be minimal, but I'm anxious for those quick settings myself. I'd say root and S-Off now to get it over with so you can flash immediately when 4.2 comes out.
I was going to wait too. But I got my phone two days ago and ended up flashing two days ago as well...
-flashaddict
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Not to sound like a lame-o but this is the first phone I've owned where I didn't feel the need to root it. Though I had similar feelings with my Epic 4G Touch a few years ago and ended up flashing probably 50 different ROMS, give or take.
adam.kelly2 said:
Not to sound like a lame-o but this is the first phone I've owned where I didn't feel the need to root it. Though I had similar feelings with my Epic 4G Touch a few years ago and ended up flashing probably 50 different ROMS, give or take.
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I feel the same way, I've never gone this long without rooting a phone/tablet, it's usually a week at most.
This is the same boat I am in. I am not doing any of the over the air updates so it will be easier to root when it gets to that point. I am actually quite impressed with the phone (coming from the Evo 4g), I've actually thought about keeping this thing stock...then I remember that it will only get faster if I root and flash.
Yup, stock and not rooted. Waiting for the 4.2.2 and hopefully a working flashable rom of the Google Edition One with everything stable. I really want lockscreen widgets. This is the first phone where I'm not willing to sacrifice the stability of the phone, because sense 5 is pretty damn good. I'd definitely prefer an equally stable AOSP rom though.
D3luSi0n4L said:
Yup, stock and not rooted. Waiting for the 4.2.2 and hopefully a working flashable rom of the Google Edition One with everything stable. I really want lockscreen widgets. This is the first phone where I'm not willing to sacrifice the stability of the phone, because sense 5 is pretty damn good. I'd definitely prefer an equally stable AOSP rom though.
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Same here. I hope these awesome devs get the Google edition roms on here quick!
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mite be trading my s4 for the htc one real soon!! did u guys get the 4.2.2. update yet or still waiting?
P.Mobile said:
mite be trading my s4 for the htc one real soon!! did u guys get the 4.2.2. update yet or still waiting?
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Well.... if you look at some posts here from yesterday (2 posts up ) you will see the statement.... " Waiting for the 4.2.2 "
I waited a few weeks and started thinking that HTC dev unlock will wipe the device so I might as well get started. That and the process will be quicker once Sprint releases and development starts working to fix any of the unintended features on the new release.
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