I have a G1 with currently running CSDIv4, I've tried super d 1.09, 1.10 and cyanogen 4.2.15.1.
For the last 2 months when I try to take the phone from stanby by pressing the menu button the backlight comes on but the screen does not. I have to press the end key for anything around 10 to 50 seconds before the screen come up, sometimes it can be for longer.
Everytime I flash a rom it does not happen for days maybe even a week, after flashing csdi it didn't happen for 3 days ish, it did it 3-4 times on saturday, 2-3 sunday and once this morning.
I've tried cache mate to clear the cache regular, reformatted sd card full wipe and dalvik cache when flashing rom, I cant figure it out. I am pretty hopeful its not a hardware issue as it is pretty random and might not happen for days at a time.
Can anyone shed some light on this.
Your phone underclocks while its sleeping to save battery, resulting in a slower startup time. Use SetCPU (paid in market, free somewhere in this forum, use search), to set the profiles to how you like it.
That will not be it.
Sounds like a hardware fault.
Clocking your CPU higher will NOT have any significant affect on ANYTHING.
Think of it like this:
If it takes 10 seconds and you DOUBLE the clock rate, then it can't possibly take any less than 5 seconds. And that would be assuming that performance was a direct function of clock rate, which it IS NOT. Doubling your clock rate will probably get you a 5% boost in overall performance. That means cutting time down by such a small amount that you wouldn't be able to measure it.
Not that it is software related anyways.....
Have you tried TWISTING the phone when it isn't working right? I don't mean twisting it a lot, just enough to shift things in it a little.
I will try that next time, I didn't think it was a hardware issue, for example with csdi it happened every morning when I woke up and tried it whereas super d and cyanogen were more random but I am begining to think it could be the ribbon so I will give you suggestion a try and see if it helps.
Is it possible that maybe when the phone gets hot at the bottom of the screen there could be some kind of expansion going on with the ribbon, I tried ice the other day and though I only tried it twice in a short space of time it came up quicker.
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Ok, I can't put my finger on to the reason my phone is getting hot - no other temp threads I could find covered it.
It's 6 months old and it just started happening.
Build: FRG83 v 2.2.1
Power off, place in cradle - charges fine - stays cool.
Applied power (while in cradle) - stayed cool - battery was 100% already - woke up this morning after 6 hours and it was hot.
Pulled battery out, let sit until cool. Put in and powered - now is running cool.
Yesterday I picked it up and for no reason (that I could tell), it was hot and chewing through the battery.
Uninstalled all recently installed apps (don't have much on it right now)
I don't use exchange for mail (just gmail).
Has anyone else seen this odd behavior. There has to be some rhyme or reason to this. I'll keep uninstalling apps, but I'm not seeing anything running that is unusual...
Thx for any help
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Ok, I can't put my finger on to the reason my phone is getting hot - no other temp threads I could find covered it.
It's 6 months old and it just started happening.
Build: FRG83 v 2.2.1
Power off, place in cradle - charges fine - stays cool.
Applied power (while in cradle) - stayed cool - battery was 100% already - woke up this morning after 6 hours and it was hot.
Pulled battery out, let sit until cool. Put in and powered - now is running cool.
Yesterday I picked it up and for no reason (that I could tell), it was hot and chewing through the battery.
Uninstalled all recently installed apps (don't have much on it right now)
I don't use exchange for mail (just gmail).
Has anyone else seen this odd behavior. There has to be some rhyme or reason to this. I'll keep uninstalling apps, but I'm not seeing anything running that is unusual...
Thx for any help
-P
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Contacting HTC for a new device wouldn't be a terrible idea, since it seems that everything is darn near stock and not your fault.
I did think of that, but am having trouble believing that it is a hardware problem...
Kinda my fall back plan...
Did you try to run something like SystemPanel and see if there's any app that has your Nexus running at 100% speed all the time?
Ahh, nice app - never saw that...
I'll monitor it now - it started getting hot again then it cooled off. Said it was 32C - but nothing out of the ordinary was running... (Except amazon mp3 - not sure why it is out there, I wish I could make that go away)...
You can't make Amazon stop, you have to uninstall it (which is possible if you're rooted).
See what the frequency is - if it's idling around 300 MHz, you're ok.
Yeah, I know about the amazon thing...
Weird - started talking on the phone and it got hot (and sucked serious power) - ended call and now it's cool again.
Every time I go and look at CPU use it's low (starts high as I switch task but then drops to almost nothing which I would expect)
It might be a crappy battery.
I'm trying to figure out why the CPU would get hot if the battery is bad... Temp is definitely coming from the case below the battery in the trackball area...
I have a lot of experience with LiPo's - usually takes much higher A rates to get them to heat up - we aren't even draining them at .5C.
Now, this battery did come from the wife's N1 - but this problem did not coincide with the swap...
Only time I feel the area around the trackball heating up (the CPU) is when I'm doing something intensive, and not that often. Did System Panel show anything was using CPU? You could also watch top in a term or via adb, and watch for network traffic.
You have a rogue app or bad hardware. Have you tried doing a factory reset and seeing if it also happens? Are you using a stock ROM? You mention the ROM in the OP but there are a lot of custom ROMs that are of that build.
This is a stock 2.2.1 on unmodified hardware.
I swapped batteries back and still get the same thing.
I was obviously thinking rogue app, but I don't see anything running that is 'bad'... Also it is hard to tell from the aforementioned app what the CPU is really doing when it's going crazy, as the CPU spikes when switching to the app and then settles back down to 200-300 MHz...
The other weird thing is that it seems to get really warm when charging off the PC now (didn't look close at system details at that point - was the other day)... Not even having the SD card mounted...
Will see what top shows next time I have it plugged in.
No, didn't do a factory reset yet. Was hoping to find the culprit first, but it's not looking good...
Hi, looked for similar in threads but found no resolution.
After charging and booting I noticed the battery draining especially quickly recently. When looking at Spare Parts/battery history it shows running at 100%.I drop down Partial wake usage and usually two highest programs are Android system and UID 10015(?). When these are then pressed it shows the up time but not amounting to the total since boot.
When opening both CPU Spy and CPUStats they confirm NO deep sleep time.
To remedy this I have tried various from simple reboot, to kill all, changing various settings, opening apps and most recent flashing new rom CM 6.1.2 from previous CM 6.1.0.
Now here's the weird part - no one remedy works all the time, it's a question of hit and miss, such as this morning it took 3 reboots to work, yesterday a mess around with some apps cleared it.
Oh, and I did a full wipe/factory reset when flashing.
One last thing the problem only manifests itself from a reboot, so once cleared it runs sweet until I switch off at end of day and charge it.
Hope you can help cos although the problems not life threatening it sure is bugging the hell outa me.
Thanking in anticipation
Hi, I bought a SGS a few days ago. Everything was fine at first, but then it started to overheat even for a few minutes of use. It is around 32 degrees celsius when the screen is off, but even if I do nothing and keep the screen on for some time, it shows 41 degrees celsius. If I open a game or the music player it becomes 48.Not occasionally, every time I do the same thing. If it was a graphically intensive game it would probably be 55 easily. I deleted everythng and did a data factory reset, it slowed down the speed of the heating but the same thing happens eventually. I've checked similar threads and someone said even a temperature of 55 degrees is normal, but that can't be true since when the temp is 48-49 the phone becomes really sluggish, and apps stop working. Any ideas?
The most important thing is though, I dropped the phone once. However, it wasn't an issue that day and the day after. I don't think they are related, what do you think? Is there a cooling system that might be damaged? I don't want to send the phone back because there are small scratches around the silver part of the phone because of it and they might resend the phone saying it is the user's fault.
Lastly, the Froyo is installed now. If I upgrade to Gingerbread is there a chance that it will help the temperature stay normal?
I have had temperature of 60 degrees. It's pretty normal, I don't think gb would change anything from it.
When the temperature is about 50, the phone starts to lag badly, the browser lags and the games freeze. Before this, the highest I saw was 36 when playing a game.
As far as I know, when it hits 60 degrees, the phone turns off automatically, are you sure? It becomes very ucomfortable to hold too.
Definitely normal when the phone is doing something intensive. Phones don't have cooling systems - do you want a fan at the back of the device? Also, the phone can go beyond 60 degrees - it doesn't turn off when it reaches 60. If there is a defense mechanism it goes beyond that point. The battery on the other hand stops charging if the phone reaches a certain temperature. I don't recall any sluggishness with the phone at high temperatures or at least nothing like games freezing. One thing to do is to reduce to minimum the brightness of the screen coz Super AMOLED screens tend to produce a lot of heat at high brightness levels and that's what mainly heats the phone so much. Also, you can get a kernel with which you can undervolt the cpu - that will keep the cpu cooler.
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Hi, I bought a SGS a few days ago. Everything was fine at first, but then it started to overheat even for a few minutes of use. It is around 32 degrees celsius when the screen is off, but even if I do nothing and keep the screen on for some time, it shows 41 degrees celsius. If I open a game or the music player it becomes 48.Not occasionally, every time I do the same thing. If it was a graphically intensive game it would probably be 55 easily. I deleted everythng and did a data factory reset, it slowed down the speed of the heating but the same thing happens eventually. I've checked similar threads and someone said even a temperature of 55 degrees is normal, but that can't be true since when the temp is 48-49 the phone becomes really sluggish, and apps stop working. Any ideas?
The most important thing is though, I dropped the phone once. However, it wasn't an issue that day and the day after. I don't think they are related, what do you think? Is there a cooling system that might be damaged? I don't want to send the phone back because there are small scratches around the silver part of the phone because of it and they might resend the phone saying it is the user's fault.
Lastly, the Froyo is installed now. If I upgrade to Gingerbread is there a chance that it will help the temperature stay normal?
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I've never monitored internal temperatures, but....
Mine very rarely feels hot to the touch. If I played Dungeon Hunter for a half hour it would get pretty warm (not hot though) but that's normal I'd say. Send it back to Samsung Service Center - this phone costs half a grand, don't chance that it's slowly cooking itself to death!
Oh and I didn't find gingerbread to make a dramatic difference, wouldn't expect it to solve all your problems. Sorry dude.
try uc/uv-ing the phone, might help:\
I told you there was something wrong . It might be normal, but the beginning of it was definitely not normal. The thing is, when I set the alarm, the phone starts overheating. It goes to 40 without starting any apps, and sees 45-48 under 5 minutes of use depending on what I am doing. When I turn it off, it hovers around 36. I've never seen it past 38 even when there are three apps working. I've noticed this a few hours ago and still am still testing it, so I am not 100% sure, any of you had a problem with the alarm? It sounds even more reasonable because the time the phone started to do this roughly coincides with the time I set the alarm for the first time.
Hopefully the alarm is to blame, I can live without that .
I overclocked mine and It gets hot as hell. even when I charge the phone? Is there anyone who knows how to solve it?
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I overclocked mine and It gets hot as hell. even when I charge the phone? Is there anyone who knows how to solve it?
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What program did you use to OC?
DeaDman594 said:
I overclocked mine and It gets hot as hell. even when I charge the phone? Is there anyone who knows how to solve it?
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Undervolt or reduce overclock, simples!
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So over the course of time I have used many different ROMs and also have had 5 batteries for my Note so far.
All ROMs gave me terrible battery life, except the stock android for around the first year, eventually it started giving me terrible battery life too.
So that got me wondering, is it possible that some kind of faulty hardware on my Note's motherboard is causing those battery drains?
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So over the course of time I have used many different ROMs and also have had 5 batteries for my Note so far.
All ROMs gave me terrible battery life, except the stock android for around the first year, eventually it started giving me terrible battery life too.
So that got me wondering, is it possible that some kind of faulty hardware on my Note's motherboard is causing those battery drains?
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I'm pretty sure that would be possible, but I'd make sure to rule out any other cause you can rule out first.
First thing to do is check on who or what is consuming the battery, so installing something like CPU Spy will let you know if the phone just keeps running at top speeds.
Because there simply isn't enough juice in these batteries to allow all parts of the phone to run full throttle for hours.
Smart phones are really at their best, when their just sitting idle and then they really shouldn't consume any power. That's what you need to check: Does it really slow down and sleep, when you're not actively using it?
And CPU Spy (or similar tools) will give you that info by telling you how much time the CPU has spent at each speed setting. If it doesn't drop to deep sleep when the phone if off the charger, screen switched off at the home screen but stays running at 100-500MHz, then you have found the reason for the miserable battery life. Now you'd just have to find what's causing it.
And that could be a long story journey...
However you could start with an empty ROM fully wiped, nothing but the ROM and the minimum set of GAPPS installed (and CPU Spy or similar for checking) empty internal SDcard, expecially no media files. If you have an external SD card, best remove that initially so you don't have to delete any data you keep on there.
If then the Note isn't guzzling battery and sleeping deeply when not used, your hardware is fine.
Then it's just a matter of adding item after item, always checking of that is causing any change to CPU states and energy consumption.
You should also try to find out of any of your five batteries has issues and use a known good one for the testing.
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I'm pretty sure that would be possible, but I'd make sure to rule out any other cause you can rule out first.
First thing to do is check on who or what is consuming the battery, so installing something like CPU Spy will let you know if the phone just keeps running at top speeds.
Because there simply isn't enough juice in these batteries to allow all parts of the phone to run full throttle for hours.
Smart phones are really at their best, when their just sitting idle and then they really shouldn't consume any power. That's what you need to check: Does it really slow down and sleep, when you're not actively using it?
And CPU Spy (or similar tools) will give you that info by telling you how much time the CPU has spent at each speed setting. If it doesn't drop to deep sleep when the phone if off the charger, screen switched off at the home screen but stays running at 100-500MHz, then you have found the reason for the miserable battery life. Now you'd just have to find what's causing it.
And that could be a long story journey...
However you could start with an empty ROM fully wiped, nothing but the ROM and the minimum set of GAPPS installed (and CPU Spy or similar for checking) empty internal SDcard, expecially no media files. If you have an external SD card, best remove that initially so you don't have to delete any data you keep on there.
If then the Note isn't guzzling battery and sleeping deeply when not used, your hardware is fine.
Then it's just a matter of adding item after item, always checking of that is causing any change to CPU states and energy consumption.
You should also try to find out of any of your five batteries has issues and use a known good one for the testing.
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Okay to begin, the phone never drains battery when idle, never. If I charge to 100% at night around 23:00 , in the morning it would be around 90%. So that seems fair enough. Because I keep my EDGE / 2G activated at all times.
The real problem is when the screen is turned on (doesn't matter what I do).
I tried to keep the screen on for one hour, idle, doing nothing. Battery drained by a whooping 25%. So basically it's my screen which is consuming my battery. I didn't try this when I made this thread, so there's no mention of this in the first post.
So I don't think any other apps are consuming anything. Besides I hardly have any apps installed.
I got the gapps from the following link and installed the 'mini' package.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/par...apps-official-to-date-pa-google-apps-t2943900
Apart from I only have WhatsApp, Notepad, Perfect AppLock, AdAway and Chrome installed. Only a few apps since I did a full wipe yesterday night. Even flashed a stock ROM first and began from scratch.
So I don't really think it's any apps consuming any CPU, only screen is eating a ****load. Could it be the damaged screen?
Holy ****! I just recalled while writing this post, I did get this screen of this phone replace once, like one and half year ago. Could that be it? I did get it replaced from a official Samsung store though.
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Okay to begin, the phone never drains battery when idle, never. If I charge to 100% at night around 23:00 , in the morning it would be around 90%. So that seems fair enough. Because I keep my EDGE / 2G activated at all times.
The real problem is when the screen is turned on (doesn't matter what I do).
I tried to keep the screen on for one hour, idle, doing nothing. Battery drained by a whooping 25%. So basically it's my screen which is consuming my battery. I didn't try this when I made this thread, so there's no mention of this in the first post.
So I don't think any other apps are consuming anything. Besides I hardly have any apps installed.
I got the gapps from the following link and installed the 'mini' package.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/par...apps-official-to-date-pa-google-apps-t2943900
Apart from I only have WhatsApp, Notepad, Perfect AppLock, AdAway and Chrome installed. Only a few apps since I did a full wipe yesterday night. Even flashed a stock ROM first and began from scratch.
So I don't really think it's any apps consuming any CPU, only screen is eating a ****load. Could it be the damaged screen?
Holy ****! I just recalled while writing this post, I did get this screen of this phone replace once, like one and half year ago. Could that be it? I did get it replaced from a official Samsung store though.
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I'd consider playing with the brightness, just to see of something a little lower is good enough for daily use but I'd say that isn't impossible...
While Samsung liked to hype the fact that OLED would only use power on illuminated pixels, mine are mostly white because reading is what I do most on my Notes.
And then this screen on the Note 1 didn't use particularly less energy than a good LCD backlight screen according to the reviews I remember.
I also remember an article which said that the energy consumption on OLED wasn't linear and that the last 20% of brightness might cost 50% more power (the numbers are most likely bogus but the main point was that brightness/energy consumption wasn't linear).
And yes, there is most likely variation between individual screens on OLED and moreover OLED displays decay with use and over time. I haven't noticed it that much with my Note 1 yet, but my older Samsung Galaxy S I-9000 that I passed on to one of my sons developed a brightness issue: Everything below the first 100 lines or so is significantly darker than the top. I don't know wether that's a consequence of his usage pattern (Whatsapp) or some other reason, but I do know that he typically kept the display at top brightness and also kept it lit far longer than I ever did.
I've always been somewhat disappointed by the endurance of the Note 1 but I haven't really noticed any significant change with the different ROM versions. And since I was also somewhat disappointed by the performance of the device I couldn't resist replacing it with the Note 3 when that came out.
That device was better in pretty much every regard, except screen ratio: I really, really liked the 16:10 of the Note 1 a lot better than the 16:9 of the Note 3.
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I'd consider playing with the brightness, just to see of something a little lower is good enough for daily use but I'd say that isn't impossible...
While Samsung liked to hype the fact that OLED would only use power on illuminated pixels, mine are mostly white because reading is what I do most on my Notes.
And then this screen on the Note 1 didn't use particularly less energy than a good LCD backlight screen according to the reviews I remember.
I also remember an article which said that the energy consumption on OLED wasn't linear and that the last 20% of brightness might cost 50% more power (the numbers are most likely bogus but the main point was that brightness/energy consumption wasn't linear).
And yes, there is most likely variation between individual screens on OLED and moreover OLED displays decay with use and over time. I haven't noticed it that much with my Note 1 yet, but my older Samsung Galaxy S I-9000 that I passed on to one of my sons developed a brightness issue: Everything below the first 100 lines or so is significantly darker than the top. I don't know wether that's a consequence of his usage pattern (Whatsapp) or some other reason, but I do know that he typically kept the display at top brightness and also kept it lit far longer than I ever did.
I've always been somewhat disappointed by the endurance of the Note 1 but I haven't really noticed any significant change with the different ROM versions. And since I was also somewhat disappointed by the performance of the device I couldn't resist replacing it with the Note 3 when that came out.
That device was better in pretty much every regard, except screen ratio: I really, really liked the 16:10 of the Note 1 a lot better than the 16:9 of the Note 3.
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I see. Thank you for the time you took to write this reply.
I always have my brightness to the lowest possible and yet I am facing battery drains.
Anyways, it seems this problem is beyond repair. I have literally tried every solution possible and nothing seems to have worked. So I guess it's time to move on.
Thank you for your time and information.
It's probably my screen that's consuming the battery. It can easily last up to 20 hours with 2G turned on the entire day. But as soon as I turn the screen on and start doing something, battery drains at like 1% every 60 seconds.
How old is your battery?.. I´d say get a new one if it´s older than 1 year..
I'm having tons of issues. The camera is super laggy. The battery is draining extremely quickly. The phone also requires me to hit the power button 2 or 3 times to wake from sleep.
Right now id like to tackle the battery issue since its making the phone unusable if I take it outside for more than 3 hours. Last night I left the phone with its screen off all night. The battery went from 85 to 25 in 7 hours. Not sure what's going on. I looked at cpu spy and the phone is not going to deep sleep at all. Anyone know what I can do to trouble shoot this? I got the phone from eBay. Its running nougat. The first thing I did was flash it with stock Rom. Factory reset has been done also wipe cache. Thanks.
Here's a screen shot of cpu spy.
I don't particularly have an answer either but for what its worth I've been having a similar issue with my s6 edge although the battery wasn't the greatest even before 7.0 I also feel like the upgrade did make it a little worse too. I always have power saver on and i still have to charge it mid day (sometimes twice) if I'm running around anywhere, it'll go down about 10% even just during my 15-20 minute drive to work in the morning