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TF3D and Mobile Shell

I keep going back and forth between the two on my Imagio, but I think once we get TF3D 2.5 I'll be able to stick with HTC's software. Question is: Will the Imagio handle it well?
BTW thanks for the resource here!

me too, I have been going back in forth between the current touchflo version on the Imagio and SPB Mobile Shell.
Has anyone come up with a tweak yet for touch flo 3d 2.5 for the Imagio.

SPB MS 3.5 for me
I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.

dbigdawg said:
I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.
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See, now, I get the whole "pretty" thing with this shell, but I found it to be just too confusing because it has a lot of redundancies. On the other hand, TouchFlo by HTC is really powerful, but it needs more "clues" to find all of its functionality. Idunno..I just wish we could get this thing hspl unlocked so that the gurus can start cooking up some new roms..

TF3D does not work for me. I need to quickly check email and delete tehm on the fly and access many parts of the phone. Why cant we load the new Sense UIon the Imagio. MS 3.5 is great but the contacts and dialer are badly broken. I cant search for contacts easily by typing parts of the name (only searches file as field) and from the dialer screen you cannot get into the details of a contact to E.G. select an alternate number to dial.

I have been trying both on my new imagio, and am currently sticking with SPBMS3.5. The main reason is that for some reason, the text messaging interface with TF3D messes up my ability to rotate to landscape when replying to a message. I am not sure why...
I have hard reset, and it works for a short period of time, because it seems to be using the standard Winmo texting interface. After receiving a message from a contact, the interface seems to switch to a custom TF3D version, and I can no longer use the landscape keyboard.
Plus I like that I can have virtually all the things I need on a sweetly configured main screen at one tap.
My two cents...
Gary

The folks over at PPCGeeks have unlocked the Imagio! And there are a number of ROMs already ready for flashing. As for TF3D and Mobile Shell, I have found no issues with TF, and with the new Cookies home tabs, its even easier for me. I tried that mobile shell, and there were too many reduntant applications, and by the time I got what I wanted set up, it was several pages between what I really needed and what I needed to go through. That, and after a couple days, my phone started to really get buggy. I finally gave up and went back to TF.
Now, that was before flashing to an Energy ROM. Things are much better now! Check out PPCGeeks HTC Imagio section, several ROMS there waiting for you!

You know I just saw those this weekend and they look very promising! Especially the MaxManilla on the horizon. I am not sure whether to go with Manilla or Cookies...Any thoughts?
As for the TF3D and texting, I did some googling and found the fix. Sorry, but I can't remember, but I think it was on PPCGeeks. Had to add some manilla reg values and change one other and voila! It works now. Still not sure if I like TF3D better than SPB, but I am giving it a shot. What I do like is that SPB can have multiple weather cities. I don't think that I like the 3D mail reader on either app.
Thanks again for the tips.
Gary

new to WM 6.1 and having issues

ok so Im a noob when it comes to the HTC tilt. i bought it about a week ago and since then i have upgraded to WM 6.1 and installed the Kaiser Tweak, Black Theme, Opera Mobile 10 beta and Mobium GPS software. The phone seems kind of laggy, when i go to "wake it up" it will occasionally flash then immediately go "back to sleep". I also noticed today that when i slide the keyboard out to txt message, the word completion window pops up with nothing in it and if i hit the menu tab there are just hyphens in it, no actual words i.e. delete, forward,insert......so on. I need help. i flashed the WM 6.1 last night and didnt have these problems till about an hour or so ago....with the exception of the lag.

Welcom to the WM 6.1 'upgrade'
Although I've never had a Tilt (mines just the HTC version of a TyTN II), some of the issues you describe were problems I'd found with the default HTC 6.1 upgrade. Sometimes what people expect to be an improvement because it's newer, isn't necessarily better. If you want to go back to how it was, read up the Wiki here at xda-dev which will tell you how you can flash back to the original WM 6.0 setup (or perhaps you may prefer the slightly newer but still WM 6.0, 1.62 series ROM referred to here ).

ok....well ive been browsing and ive seen ALOT of these "cooked" roms. what r these exactly and has anyone had luck with a specific one. i know that everyone has their preference but again...im new. I dig the black theme and the threaded SMS is a must have. i also like the kaiser tweak....does any one have a file for threaded SMS if i decide to go back to 6.0

Maybe something about it in the wiki
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ok....well ive been browsing and ive seen ALOT of these "cooked" roms. what r these exactly and has anyone had luck with a specific one.
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No, no-one has ever had any luck with a cooked (or customised) ROM... But seriously if you want to know which is best it will depend what you want it to do and even then asking which is best is frowned upon here at xda-dev (because it can cause flame wars so it's a no-no). What most people do is try them and see. I've tried a few and always ended up going back to stock to get fast GPS. Have a search for threaded SMS - I don't recall if that's possible under WM 6.0 but maybe there's a cab around. Have a good read in the wiki section as well -there's lots of usefull info in there. I hardly ever use sms so what I have is good enough for my needs.

Check out Solace v3.1,
looks pretty spiffy if you ask me. Finger-friendly as well.

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ok so Im a noob when it comes to the HTC tilt. i bought it about a week ago and since then i have upgraded to WM 6.1 and installed the Kaiser Tweak, Black Theme, Opera Mobile 10 beta and Mobium GPS software. The phone seems kind of laggy, when i go to "wake it up" it will occasionally flash then immediately go "back to sleep". I also noticed today that when i slide the keyboard out to txt message, the word completion window pops up with nothing in it and if i hit the menu tab there are just hyphens in it, no actual words i.e. delete, forward,insert......so on. I need help. i flashed the WM 6.1 last night and didnt have these problems till about an hour or so ago....with the exception of the lag.
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Well I'm not sure if you have tried that or not but, did you check your memory?? like is you mobile memory or even your memory card full or kind of full?? that really makes the mobile sooooooo slow and boring specially if you have an 8GB almost full memory card. One more thing, it's better if you close the word completion option as i had a problem before that the mobile had saved too many entries that it reached a limit were each time i try to write a msg it just freezes the whole mobile and that problem wasn't solved except when i stopped the word completion

rustypnus said:
ok so Im a noob when it comes to the HTC tilt. i bought it about a week ago and since then i have upgraded to WM 6.1 and installed the Kaiser Tweak, Black Theme, Opera Mobile 10 beta and Mobium GPS software. The phone seems kind of laggy, when i go to "wake it up" it will occasionally flash then immediately go "back to sleep". I also noticed today that when i slide the keyboard out to txt message, the word completion window pops up with nothing in it and if i hit the menu tab there are just hyphens in it, no actual words i.e. delete, forward,insert......so on. I need help. i flashed the WM 6.1 last night and didnt have these problems till about an hour or so ago....with the exception of the lag.
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for the bold part in the quote above, disable cleartype in landscape...the functionality is broken in most combinations of video drivers with WM6.1 on the kaiser.

Fast ROM + 4 Calender Items?

Hi there,
I've lost overview of the many, many ROMs to try. Maybe someone can help me ...
There are only two features that are important for me:
1) speed and smoothness
2) I want to see 3 (better 4) calender items on the home tab
ad 2) is there another way than using cookie monsters home tab (this needs sense 2.5 and that means the ROM is too slow. I think WM 6.1 and Manila 2.1 would be best.)
Thanks in Advance,
ausgang

Well, try searching a bit harder next time
Topix 3.5 WM6.1 Manila 2.1 Sense weather should be a good choice for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
The non-weather one has a rather old Manila, wouldn't actually recommend that.

if you want a Manila 2.1 rom with 6.5.x build (start menu and close button at the bottom) I recommend BlackstoneHenge

@semicuda: I am not 100% sure, but I think I already tried this. As I can remeber theres no way to get 3-4 calender items in the Home Tab...

ausgang said:
@semicuda: I am not 100% sure, but I think I already tried this. As I can remeber theres no way to get 3-4 calender items in the Home Tab...
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3,4, AND MORE: try SPB MOBILE SHELL.

backup + cooked rom

hi guys, I have 2 questions:
1) I'm thinking of upgrading to wm 6.5. I didn't install them till now cause didn't like their look, but after seeing Cookie's Home Tab, i'm all out for them .
My question though is how i backup the Contacts' photos. I have already the contacts in Outlook, and the photos appear fine along with the rest contact info. Is this enough? I mean after the “format”, I will connect the td2 to the pc, syncronise and all the contacts will be loaded (with their photos) back in the phone?
2) I also thought of installing Leo's cooked rom NRG, since i see very good comments about it and appears to be the most popular. It's also compatible with Cookie's Home Tab.
I don't mind English Windows, but will i be able to write Greek in sms and rest applications? How can i enable a Greek keyboard like HTC's default (that comes with official greek roms)?
Thanks in advance

1. yes, contacts should be fine (u can also use PPCPIM backup)
2. just search or ask in NRG's thread.

Vario III/Kaiser - Quick Question - Plz see my last post

Hi guys,
My dad's handed me his Vario III / (Kaiser 120) to use.
I did a reset using the option in 'SETTINGS' to reset it and lose all date. Now, when I start it up, it looks like new and the time/date has to be set. All my dad's contacts have gone. Cool. - 1. Was this a Hard-Reset ?
I went to something like SETTINGS > INFO and got this:
Radio Vers 1.70.18.02
ROM DATE 9/01/08
ROM Vers. 3.31.110.3 WWE
Build 19212.1.03
When I start it up, it says Windows Mobile v6.1
A couple years ago, I loaded tomtom navigator on it for my dad. It was really good with the internal gps.
Anyway, now that I have the phone, I'd like to install tomtom navigator on it, use the camera (maybe 10 photos a week) and upload pics to my PC, and browse the internet (email, twitter etc.) from time to time. Also, I'd use the handset to connect via bluetooth to my laptop so I can use it for internet (in emergencies, as it is kinda slow). I also text (3-5 texts a day)
I also downloaded an app called Shazam.cab from a site called mobilism, which I would love to use as I have seen it on my lucky friend's iPhone and the app is awesome!
2. Apart from the usb cable, and active sync on my pc, do i need anything else to install shazam on my phone/micro sd card?
3. I assume a ROM means operating system? Like windows xp, 7 etc.
I see that people are putting new ROMs on their phone. My phone has
Storage Free Space: 121MB and Programs Free 55MB. There isn't a lot of 'bloatware' hogging up resources on there, as far as i can see.
4. Do I need to install a custom ROM now that you know my uses (in blue font above) for the phone? / do I need to flash it? I.e. will a new ROM/flash make my life a lot easier? Better to convert to android system? Will I need to do any of these things to install shazam?
I was goin to do this on the weekend so I can use other sims in my phone:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
fingers crossed it goes ok.
Can you please help?
Thank you
Sonny
ps. I may need to ask a couple more questions after this. Once again thank you for your help. If anyone needs advice on cameras, please let me know as I am a regular contributor to a photography forum.

1. Yes, it was HARD-Reset (removes all settings, contacts, messages, ...). It doesn't do anything to the MicroSD card.
2. I don't know anything about that. Sorry!
3. Yes, ROM means operating system. There are stock ROMs and modified ROMs. For Kaiser (a.k.a. HTC TyTN II) you'll find only stock Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM and lots of modified WM 6.1 and WM 6.5 ROMs. There's no stock WM 6.5 ROM for Kaiser.
4. Android is not stable enough. Sometimes it crashes, doesn't wake up and so on... All your mentioned things can be done with both WM 6.1 and 6.5, so it's for you to decide what to use. WM 6.1 looks a little bit old and terrible, but it uses less resources than WM 6.5 which looks a little bit... like system that was made to be similar to iPhone OS. Yes, WM 6.5 is more finger-friendly, but the applications grid drives me crazy, it uses more resources (and loves draining the battery)

Thank you very much for taking the time to post. I found it really useful.
I stuck with original HTC ROM with 6.1 and I am loving it. Shazam works wonderfully well. The phone is so damn sharp. And, using 2 apps at once is brilliant.
Does anyone know if I can put more icons/apps on the TODAY SCREEN?
At the moment, I am only allowed to put 6 in the start menu screen, and 1 (tom tom) on the today screen.
My Start menu has: 1 File explorer, 2 organiser (i use the calculator a lot), 3 internet explorer, 4 MS word (for my notes), 5 shazam (use a lot), 6 Resco photo manager (for uploading to FlickR)
I'd like to add 2 more apps (wunder radio + core player) somewhere with quick access.
Any ideas?
Thank you

Try copying applications links (.lnk files) from \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ to \Windows\Start Menu\
I'm not sure if it's going to work with Windows Mobile 6.1, but it's safe to try