Soft-SPL - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

Quick question:
Could you use Soft-SPL (or whatever it is on the HSPL post) to create a temporary hole to flash a custom rom? I understand it should be unstable and all, but couldn't it work? I may very well be wrong though.
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[Q] Few ROM and SPL Questions

I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks
1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.
No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^
Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?
He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-
Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!
Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.
This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.
As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!
I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.

Flashing latest SPL and Turning off charger LED

Okay, I have two questions.
1. Is there a way that I can turn off the orange led when I charge my phone? I want it off but I still want notification leds like when i get messages, I just want to see if i got a message without having to press menu every time its charging.
2. I'm currently running 2.22.19.26I for the radio and HSPL 10.95.3000, I don't think I have the latest SPL and I just wanted to know if it is safe for me to flash it now, with the radio I have. If possible can someone just give me a small step by step instruction for it? Before I get flamed about reading a guide and all that other stuff, I just wanted to make sure that I can do it safely, since I've read that people brick their phone from using the wrong radio and all that and it got me nervous.
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Okay, I have two questions.
1. Is there a way that I can turn off the orange led when I charge my phone? I want it off but I still want notification leds like when i get messages, I just want to see if i got a message without having to press menu every time its charging.
2. I'm currently running 2.22.19.26I for the radio and HSPL 10.95.3000, I don't think I have the latest SPL and I just wanted to know if it is safe for me to flash it now, with the radio I have. If possible can someone just give me a small step by step instruction for it? Before I get flamed about reading a guide and all that other stuff, I just wanted to make sure that I can do it safely, since I've read that people brick their phone from using the wrong radio and all that and it got me nervous.
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First Question i can Answer.
But as for the second if you already have root you should follow nephrons guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548924
You can skip the parts that do not apply to you!
And from what i heard there is a chance you brick it even if you have all the nessasary criteria. Good Luck!
Thanks for the quick reply, my only question now, is it still safe to put on the new SPL even though i already have the rom flashed? Sorry, just taking precautions
Anartic said:
Thanks for the quick reply, my only question now, is it still safe to put on the new SPL even though i already have the rom flashed? Sorry, just taking precautions
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I assume by the "latest SPL" you mean Haykuro's latest SPL (which allows for Roger and Hero ROMS)
If so then yes, you can flash with the radio you have (blahblah.26I) and with a ROM. It will format your phones nand, so your ROM will be lost. Tbh, I'm not sure if a nandroid will work afterwards, sorry!
anyway, to flash it:
Wipe
Flash the SPL
Wipe
Flash a ROM
That's what I followed when installing Haykuro's SPL.
Anartic said:
Okay, I have two questions.
1. Is there a way that I can turn off the orange led when I charge my phone? I want it off but I still want notification leds like when i get messages, I just want to see if i got a message without having to press menu every time its charging.
2. I'm currently running 2.22.19.26I for the radio and HSPL 10.95.3000, I don't think I have the latest SPL and I just wanted to know if it is safe for me to flash it now, with the radio I have. If possible can someone just give me a small step by step instruction for it? Before I get flamed about reading a guide and all that other stuff, I just wanted to make sure that I can do it safely, since I've read that people brick their phone from using the wrong radio and all that and it got me nervous.
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Theres an .apk in the dev section somewhere that allows notifications to blink even when charging. I can't find it atm though.
EDIT: Heres an app
Always Flash (for root users)
its a paid app

How do you load a custom rom?

I apologies if this has (see probably was) posted before, but after some searching I was unable to find anything.
I just rooted my HTC Hero for sprint and was interested in installing the Darchdroid 2.7 ROM. Problem is, I'm not entirely certain of how to do this since I am new to the process. Near as I can figure, you change the name of the zip file he provided to update and tell the phone to flash to that.
Rather than do that and brick my phone however, I'd prefer to get some kind of confirmation or at least some easy directions.
Again, sorry if this is bothering someone. I'm just quite new and don't want to kill my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674833
u dont have to rename it. read the post on his roms thread. it says how to do it

[Q] SPL Questions

I just bought an old G1 and am wanting to play a little and see if i can get the thing running a little better as it really is a cool phone. I am looking at of course trying to get Cyan6 on it and am seeing it needs DangerSPL for repartitioning the SD card. Now i assume a Class 6 (or very least class4) card would be needed for this. Also i see the on teh Cyan Wiki site it says to download the new radio first, 2.22.23.02. When i look under "About Phone", is see my radio is 62.50SC.20.17H_2.22.23.02. I imagine they are the same thing but i just want to make sure. Plus, if they ARE the same i imagine i don't need to download the other radio before i get started. One other question, does teh Danger SPL repartion for you or do you have to do it manually after you flash it? Thanks in advance for any help!
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I just bought an old G1 and am wanting to play a little and see if i can get the thing running a little better as it really is a cool phone. I am looking at of course trying to get Cyan6 on it and am seeing it needs DangerSPL for repartitioning the SD card. Now i assume a Class 6 (or very least class4) card would be needed for this. Also i see the on teh Cyan Wiki site it says to download the new radio first, 2.22.23.02. When i look under "About Phone", is see my radio is 62.50SC.20.17H_2.22.23.02. I imagine they are the same thing but i just want to make sure. Plus, if they ARE the same i imagine i don't need to download the other radio before i get started. One other question, does teh Danger SPL repartion for you or do you have to do it manually after you flash it? Thanks in advance for any help!
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The REASON some people use the deathspl is BECAUSE it repartitions.
BUT THERE ARE MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER WAYS to do this!
DO NOT use deathSPL!
Use this instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
ADVANTAGE: You get an extra 15 MB of usable internal storage! On a DREAM, that's a lot!
Thanks!!! I WOULD like to flash something that is not real likely to brick the phone.
Okay, there was A LOT of info in that thread... I am sorry to ask but could you possibly break that down into a little more simple terms?? Like, do i just flash the two downloads and they do the work?
Also, i read about "faking", would i have to fake to just download CM6?
Thanks again for the help and info!
shuka325 said:
Thanks!!! I WOULD like to flash something that is not real likely to brick the phone.
Okay, there was A LOT of info in that thread... I am sorry to ask but could you possibly break that down into a little more simple terms?? Like, do i just flash the two downloads and they do the work?
Also, i read about "faking", would i have to fake to just download CM6?
Thanks again for the help and info!
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This is the gist of it:
The kernel sets the partition layout, so if you want a different partition layout, you just need to tell the kernel the new layout you want to use.
The patches modify the boot partitions (boot and recovery) to contain a new kernel commandline with the new partition layouts.
The install procedure goes like this:
You have some modified recovery installed, so you install the recovery patcher. It is now permanently installed until you install a non-patched recovery image.
Then you reboot in order to load the new partition table.
Then you install your ROM -- recovery is aware of the new partition table.
When this new ROM installs, IT IS NOT aware of the new partition table -- so you need to install the boot partition patch. This always has to be done after flashing the boot partition, but if you DON'T flash the boot partition, you don't need to worry about it -- its done.
Real easy.
As for the "fake-SPL" thing... that is because cyanogen has committed an atrocity in his ROMS -- by detecting the SPL you have installed and only allowing install to certain ones. The "fake-SPL" just adds another parameter to the kernel commandline that tells cyanogen that a different SPL is installed than what you actually have.
REGARDING YOUR SPL SELECTION:
The best bet is to install 1.33.2003 (very important -- ends in a THREE).
This is the STRONGEST ENGINEERING SPL that there is, and it is fully 100% compatible with stock 0.95 SPLs and both 1.x and 2.x radios.
And yes, you already have the right radio installed, so no need to worry about that.
Thanks for the reply, this is extremely helpful!! I will try it this evening!

[Q] ROM Manager help....

Hi guys.
I want to get into rom flashing, but to be honest I find it rather confusing to say the least.
It would appear that ROM manager seems to be the easiest way to flash my phone correct?
Am I right in saying that all I need to do is download whichever rom I wish to install, rename it to "install .zip", put this file on the internal SD (not quite sure where exactly), then use ROM manager to flash, then it's done?
Is this the safest way of doing a flash?
Sorry for the noob questions.
You shud read your previous post dude
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Omarjivraj said:
You shud read your previous post dude
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Thanks mate. I did, but I'm interested in trying other roms other than 2.3.6.
Darren K said:
Hi guys.
I want to get into rom flashing, but to be honest I find it rather confusing to say the least.
It would appear that ROM manager seems to be the easiest way to flash my phone correct?
Am I right in saying that all I need to do is download whichever rom I wish to install, rename it to "install .zip", put this file on the internal SD (not quite sure where exactly), then use ROM manager to flash, then it's done?
Is this the safest way of doing a flash?
Sorry for the noob questions.
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I thought ROM manager took all that out of it. All you need to do is make sure your on latest CWM (which is does for you before you can download, i believe) and then you pick your download. Once it finishes it asks you whether you want to install and it does it all for you...
There is no "safe" way to flash. Something can always go wrong. I advise you follow the directions on the threads of your chosen rom. That way you can learn of the current bugs, the best way to flash based on your current situation (GB, Stock, another ICS etc) and what you may need to do before hand e.g. wipe/factory reset
If you have any questions on a particular installation method search the forum and the thread. If you cant find it then ask within the thread of your chosen rom.
Usually if its another rom i believe the best thing to do is wipe/factory reset from recovery menu and then choose zip from sd card. (But you still shoud read the first 2 pages and last 3 pages of the thread)
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I thought ROM manager took all that out of it. All you need to do is make sure your on latest CWM (which is does for you before you can download, i believe) and then you pick your download. Once it finishes it asks you whether you want to install and it does it all for you...
There is no "safe" way to flash. Something can always go wrong. I advise you follow the directions on the threads of your chosen rom. That way you can learn of the current bugs, the best way to flash based on your current situation (GB, Stock, another ICS etc) and what you may need to do before hand e.g. wipe/factory reset
If you have any questions on a particular installation method search the forum and the thread. If you cant find it then ask within the thread of your chosen rom.
Usually if its another rom i believe the best thing to do is wipe/factory reset from recovery menu and then choose zip from sd card. (But you still shoud read the first 2 pages and last 3 pages of the thread)
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What is the CWM, and why do I need that?
CWM = colockworkmod. Its basically the a new recovery menu that gives you more freedom to what you can do whilst in the menu. You have it on non-rooted devices (stock firmware/samsung firmware) but as i said it provides more freedom. I believe almost every rom uses a version of it, either adapted or not.
Im not sure you will be able to use ROM manager on a device that is not yet rooted (rooted means you have administrative privileges like in windows). You will need root access as you will be changing the system files which if done incorrectly will cause something to go wrong. Which is why you wish to use ROM manager. TBH is very hard to do something wrong with the SGS and not be able to come back from it to have a fully capable phone again.
Don't rush into anything though. Don't root or flash anything without knowing the risks and what could happen, and in-turn what needs to be done to correct it. If you know this then usually you will understand what went wrong and how to fix it.
Sorry for leaving all these long messages, just trying to be clear

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