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Hi there,
do we need a subforum for Wingusers only??
If so i would ask to create a new subforum...
Please vote for 1 week after that time I will delete this thread again....
Thanks
Daniel
it would be nice to have a area for wing specific threads, gets kinda confusing for what works with the wing and what doesnt
I remember as a newb it took me quite a while before I figured out that herald=atlas=wing and a subforum I think would help everybody out.
yess. took me so long to figure out its the same phone lol..
dam temobile and there renaming
I'd like to see a tmobile wing specific sub-forum as well.
Great idea. Being a newbie, it took me a while to get piece everything together....When I started out, I was on the other Wing forum and it took a while for me to figure out the whole Herald/P4350 thing...
pffft. No. There's not that much Wing-specific WM6 content here. It would be a waste and it would also look really empty...
papamopps said:
Hi there,
do we need a subforum for Wingusers only??
If so i would ask to create a new subforum...
Please vote for 1 week after that time I will delete this thread again....
Thanks
Daniel
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I think that it would be helpful for new folks getting started.
I voted yes, but since david made the cab to fix keyboard for wing users Im not gonna cook wing specific roms. And all my roms will be posted in Herald wm6
I have voted no. My reasoning is that the most notable difference between the two devices are minimal (the keyboard mapping) which has basically been resolved by David Duprat. Although it may be a bit more organized, I think it would be a waste since the majority of the questions are not device specific. I would hate to have to jump between forums looking for an answer that could apply to all herald like devices.
But hell I'm flexible.
hidavi said:
pffft. No. There's not that much Wing-specific WM6 content here. It would be a waste and it would also look really empty...
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Ditto.......we've obviously all found it, why do we need a new forum with duplicate info?
I think if any we should ad another section under Herald (and possibly for other devices as well) that is dedicated to new roms and kitchens. This would clean up the existing forums quite a bit.
JNasty said:
I have voted no. My reasoning is that the most notable difference between the two devices are minimal (the keyboard mapping) which has basically been resolved by David Duprat. Although it may be a bit more organized, I think it would be a waste since the majority of the questions are not device specific. I would hate to have to jump between forums looking for an answer that could apply to all herald like devices.
But hell I'm flexible.
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Agreed. There's no real reason. It's just going to slow down the production of new ideas since they'll be divided between two camps. It's the same device minus the keyboard driver.
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Agreed. There's no real reason. It's just going to slow down the production of new ideas since they'll be divided between two camps. It's the same device minus the keyboard driver.
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The more I think about it, the more I want to take my vote back. Add one more to no and subtract from yes.
I voted Yes, just for the sake of clarity, and organized structure.
And it spares us many questions like : ''Will this work on my Wing/Herald?" wich,
even with David Duprat's solution wil be asked several times more.
Although the Herald Mobile 6 forum is already full of mixed stuff, it doesn't really matter that much.
still I think it's better
The Dutchman said:
And it spares us many questions like : ''Will this work on my Wing/Herald?" wich,
even with David Duprat's solution wil be asked several times more.
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It works on both. The keyboard might not match, though...
But if they don't read the heading or the post that talks about it being a herald or wing item, why would they read the forum name? j/k
Personally, I think it would be ridiculous to open a new forum... Sure, it might make things "more organized" ... but its also going to be a pain in the ass... and besides the ROM, what other DEVICE SPECIFIC questions arise? NONE what so ever.
So you're going to split everyone and basically the only thing that's going to be happening in the new forum is a topic for Ivan's roms and a topic for ttran's roms...
I say keep it together, it makes more sense. I don't want to have to jump around yet another forum when the devices are the same, except for the keyboard problem, which has a solution now.
the only pro for me is - that noobs can find things more easyly.....
and at the moment 75% say yes (nearly 50 votes)
take it from a noob, it took me close to 2 weeks b4 i learned the herald was the wing p3 whatever it is... lol
im still totaly confused by all this
maybe instead of a new form just add WING to the title page
"Also known as: HTC P4350" is what it says
make it say
"Also known as: HTC P4350 / T-Mobile Wing"
maybe a well layed out sticky thred,
explaining the differances of each model of this phone
i run a few forusm myself and keeping things streamlined is a pain.
but this is a tricky one...
I agree with nyitalian718. Just rename the forum to Herald/Wing.
We'll be the only forum to have a non-HTC codename. hehe
I'm going with nyitalian718 and ivanmmj's opinion of adding all the known names of the Herald/Wing to the list just like in any other sub-forum.
It's not too much ask if a noob has to read some pages/stickies. All of us started like this and gain their knowledge.
At the end every major topic/problem has been dicussed at least once.
And the last thing I would recommend a new PDA owner is to void the warranty by flashing his device.
He should first get familiar with his PDA and then read the infos on this forum.
Papamopps and the core members of the Herald/Wing community did a great job on writing guides and tutorials on...let's say on everything
Why did u Join XDa-Dev. I Joined Xda-Dev because i needed help with my imate sp3 it was water damaged i forgot it my trouser and my mother put them in da washing machine anyway i never got it fixed but since then i vist this site everyday. if xda-Dev did not exist i think windows mobile devices will be like a day without sunlight thats why i vist this site at least once or twice a day n datz my reason for joining and staying on xda-Dev
I wanted to look smart
I've posted this before... I wanted to look smart at the at&t forums. I would see questions posted, then come here to find the answer. Then go back and post the answer there. I 'think' I had quite a few people fooled.
Well...I was googling for ways to make my Samsung i760 better, when I had it of course, and stumbled acrossed another forum that discussed the top apps to have on a PPC. S2U2 was on the list, alot, I then came here and couldn't leave!! So, thanks A_C!!
I was a motorola modder from way back, and I wont settle for "stock" when it comes to my phones... I got an S620 and needed to mod it.
Honestly, I don't even remember.
i came searching here when i was upgrading my Hima and the power to my laptop suddenly stoped..it stucked in Bootloader for about 3 months..then i found the solution ( which was veryyyy simple )..and now..i cant move my self from the monitor and xda
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Same as i think
because there were good, wise people here mostly, and good rare soft... been a days..
now it is one big mess + some good info.
just almost ordinary phone/ihpone/trendy diamond forum.
this place lacks subforums for EVERY os-modable PPc/pppc devices.
htc, htc, where are subfora's for devices like hp4700(and other ones), asus, etc....
maybe it is time to think wider?
I was looking for some software and google brought me here.....since then, I almost daily visit this site and enjoy reading rather than writing.....
recomendation from friends
when my prophet got broken then my friends told me tyo visit XDA forum since then everyday visiting .
very happy to know this forum.
thanks to all.
Excuse my french (no offense if your french) , but I joined this website because it is the best god damn htc website on the net. Although there are a lot of smart asses on here.
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Well...I was googling for ways to make my Samsung i760 better, when I had it of course, and stumbled acrossed another forum that discussed the top apps to have on a PPC. S2U2 was on the list, alot, I then came here and couldn't leave!! So, thanks A_C!!
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thats how i joined and then i left it for a while. came back, got into upgrading roms and then rom development.
all off my things i have posted here(stuff in my sig) is because of A_C
oh and because i knew i was getting a wing for christmas so i had to pack my sd card with apps.
I joined for the huge amount of content already on here and the large number of very knowledgeable people able to help me with my problems.
I joined because i just bought a Kaiser and wanted the best site for info about it, and what it can do ect
well, i was searching the internet for new interfaces for my P4350 phone, when i found this site.
Now, i'm reading the forums every day, looking for new developments, themes, etc
I really like the site, and the people who develop / modify software are really doing good work.
Greetings, Chris
I forget why i joined but it was probably for some stupid reason like i needed help or something.
but i think i might have been the one that seeded the "touchflo minus cube" idea
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333240
probably not. Hopefully yes
My ppc was bloated & ran like cr#p with the OE official rom. So, I discovered this site has some great chefs prepairing excellent rom menu's in the kitchen!
Now my ppc is lean & mean!
i dont remember perfectly...but i think i just found the forum one day, registered, and thought to myself "I may use this later" and then i never went on for a long time, then finally there was wm6 being developed for the sp5, so i started going on. Since then ive stayed around now that i knew this forum was for developing and hacking.
a long time ago.. i was looking for something new... then i saw something new.. Windows mobile 6 Beta releases?... ohh. i should find them.. and Bingo.. i found here a ROM of WM6.. i decided to flash it.. but holy crap.. i f**cked up my wizard.. i was really sad.. and.. then.. i started to find how to fix it.. ..
since then im a member in xda-dev..
with my wizard...
my universal..
and now my kaiser..
(and coming soon my Touch Pro)
I joined because i wanted to learn about smartphones and this is before i had one.
The Wingster: Access to all of the best ROMs, Programs, and Hacks for your T-Mobile Wing
As many of you already know, I created a website called "The Wingster", which is dedicated to everything for the Touch Pro 2 and T-Mobile Wing!
ROMs - There are a lot of ROMs out there, and since the cooks are busy creating newer versions, they don't always have time to make a nice detailed description page about their ROM. So I do it for them! Don't spend all of your time digging through a lengthy thread, if there was anything important that happened, it will be on The Wingster!
Programs - All programs are tested for compatibility with the Touch Pro 2, any bugs or issues are reported, screenshots are created, features are listed, and more. I'm making all the apps on XDA accessable by the common user!
More - The Wingster is the place for everything Touch Pro 2. If anything important happens about the phone, I'll be sure to tell everyone.
Enjoy using The Wingster!
And donations are always welcome! I've gotta pay $15 a year for the awesome website domain, so you've all got about 10 months to come up with $15 so we can keep the site! Just kiddin, I can pay that myself, but it'd be nice if I didn't have to. So yea, send the very optional donations via Pay Pal, here: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=5401195 (Remember, your cooks need tips, so save some for them too)
I hope I've helped all of you! And if anyone cannot or doesn't feel like donating with money, a nice reply saying how I helped you is always welcome! Just knowing that I'm helping everyone here makes me even more motivated to make the site better!
Thanks everyone, and thanks to Ivan especially, his awesome ROMs inspired me to make The Wingster.
I'm willing to help anyone here, so we can use this thread for troubleshooting too. But I created this thread so that new users would be able to find a link to the location that holds most of the ROM's for the Touch Pro 2, since digging through threads can be exhausting. I'm not dissin XDA I'm just helping it out.
I stopped watching TV because of all the infomercials...
kable said:
I stopped watching TV because of all the infomercials...
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Lol, what?
As I said, I posted this here, in ROM Development, because it's very related to ROM's. Most ROM's are listed on The Wingster, so users can find and locate the ROM's there. Just like how other threads (for different phones) may have a thread that keeps track of all of the ROM's that are made for the phone, well, this is that thread, except it just links to The Wingster, because that serves the purpose!
It helps to eliminate people asking, where can I find this ROM, etc. Everything's organized by operating system...etc. XDA is great, but some of the ROM threads can be tough to find, because they're not all on the first page, etc. I'm just facilitating the proccess!
You get it? Or did you not even want a detailed response, and I went over the top?
Night,
Andrew
(I used "etc" a lot in that paragraph, lol)
I think wingster is a good idea, also for the chefs. Im offering you free webhosting for it. If your interested, just pm me mate.
Greets,
Dennis
kable said:
I stopped watching TV because of all the infomercials...
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Oooooooo.... You gonna take that Ace???
Just kidding! LOL.
All jokes aside, there have been many a cab/info and such found on Wingster
i would like to say thanks for the website. it was the first site i went to and then i realized i had an account here because of my shadow. the organization of the roms and apps are unparalled as well as useful. keep up the good work.
humm, no dotcompt DeepShining Rom
He cant do everything!!!
It is a very helpful website.
I have been using thewingster.com for several months now and found it extremely easy and useful. Thanks for your time and effort keeping it updated.
empds said:
humm, no dotcompt DeepShining Rom
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I'll add that ROM soon. I'm sorry I haven't been around here lately, I've been figuring stuff out in my life, and all is well now!
I missed the forums Thanks to all the amazing chefs that work every day cooking the ROM's we live by!
ace10134 said:
I'll add that ROM soon. I'm sorry I haven't been around here lately, I've been figuring stuff out in my life, and all is well now!
I missed the forums Thanks to all the amazing chefs that work every day cooking the ROM's we live by!
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Noticed you weren't around as much in the ENRG thread.
ace10134 said:
I'll add that ROM soon. I'm sorry I haven't been around here lately, I've been figuring stuff out in my life, and all is well now!
I missed the forums Thanks to all the amazing chefs that work every day cooking the ROM's we live by!
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Glad things are working in your favor. Just wanted to say thank you for the work on the website. Haven't used it, but since I was informed by this thread, I will make use of that resource.
Dear folks:
How many us are really looking for cooking our own rom. Information are scattered here and there and the process is not straight forward. It can be as simple as adding cabs and as complicated as perhaps changing hardware, porting roms to other devices, etc...
I think the reason why there is no tutorial for cooking the rom is because well it's difficult for one to develop that kind of tutorial, let alone his/her experience and best practices in various areas.
Ok so how to solve it? I suggest that all great cooking people out there, share to build that tutorial led by the moderator.
For example, one person could be in charge of explaining how to add CAB, another person in doing sys, another in porting, another in compiling, etc..
Clearly there will be multiple sections in that thread and it would be owesome and well organized. Even better, some topics can be jointly developed by more then one person sharing the experience and the best tricks and tips between them.
Somebody has to start this initiative, at least in defining the blocks, who is going to take the first shot and entice others to cooperate?
Samer.
sounds like a good idea i'd definitely like to know!!! im always looking for ways to build up my skills.
There's plenty of tutorials floating around... But if you want one done JUST for the TP2, I can help with that...
Im down...if not make my own, maybe help someone else. I personally think there are too many to choose from, and there needs to be a streamlined process to ensure that the ones that work, continue to get the support to make them better.
As NRG said, there are already a lot of threads and tutorials. Making a ROM is not just a Rhodium thing, it is very generic to start. Then making it Rhodium compliant might take some extra work. In any case, I am also looking to start my own kitchen so any efforts in this direction are apprciated.
I would greatly appreciate this. I am currently trying to cook my own ROM. I got the Visual Kitchen, dumped the HTC WWE 6.5 ROM and downloaded the 23518 rollup from Da_G.
I used Dump Sorter to sort the rollup and put it in the SYS folder. I moved the MSXIPKernel into ROM\Shared\23518. I selected 23518 for XIP and SYS build and left ETX at 21854. The ROM won't build. I try to make it but the file in RHODIUM_Release is only 8MB.
In the build log it says
"Executing: platformrebuilder.exe.....
platformrebuilder.exe Executed successfull!!!"
Platformrebuilder does not do anything where as if I left everything at 21854 there is a LOT of stuff that platformrebuilder.exe does.
Also in ROM\Shared\21854 there is a file xip.bin that I don't have in 23518.
Help cooking sense2.5
My problem is when trying to cook Leo sense2.5(EXT package). ( I could produce sense2.1 without any problem) . BUT ran into issues like: (see photo) or if the ROM is complete. I can't get past the installation screen, just hung there and not giving me the Today Screen. So any help would be greatly appreciative.
ps.. I did check Real WM 6.5, but ROM still won't boot.
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There's plenty of tutorials floating around... But if you want one done JUST for the TP2, I can help with that...
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Well first of all, it's an honor to see a great person like yourself answering my post, so my warm regards for your kindness.
Yes, I am interested obviously in TP2, although from the moment I got my hands on it, I never tried anything but EnergyRom (do you know who does them?) but it's just that I wish I can combine the latest official WM6.5 with arabic keyboard and Sense 2.5 and perhaps some cool stuff.
Indeed there are plenty of tutorials out there but maybe they are not clear enough to me, or maybe I didnt' search very well or maybe I dont know how and where to start. so yes ur input are highly welcome just like your presence.
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There's plenty of tutorials floating around... But if you want one done JUST for the TP2, I can help with that...
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I'd love to see one! Not that I'm not grateful to the cooks for their ROMs, I'd like to know how it's done and maybe add a few programs of my own to a ROM.
Oh, and I think it'd be best to start right at the beginning so that everyone is at the same level eventually.
Thanks!
I started cockin roms a couple years ago and said the exact same thing how the information is scattered.. i'm in, just let me know what you need and i'll help with what i can.
I also see some tutorials in many sub-forums, but having to look at 4 different pages just to do one step in cooking a ROM is a little troublesome and confusing. So here's what I think should happen:
I think there should be a sticky thread that has clear steps (a guide) on how to cook ROMs.
Then there should also be a sticky thread that has all kitchens from chefs that want to release them. (Similar to the Radio Collection Thread.)
That would help a lot of people! I want to cook ROMs when I have the time (over summer) and if (hopefully when) this happens, it would be easier for many people like me to cook ROMs.
BesFen made a solid tutorial for using Visual kitchen in the Opal forum, and I helped with that one. I think this is an excellent idea and I'd love to help with it in whatever capacity I can.
Link: Installing & Using Ervius Visual Kitchen V1.8.1 For OPAL
edit: Just read the poll results. Whoever said no is obviously not XDA material.
i dont mind helping with this
Thanks for starting this thread.. Been using excellent ROMs from NRGZ & b16b, but want to do my own thing for my Rhodium. Hopefully, this will get me to appreciate the efforts of these 2 fine cooks and use the facilities provided by XDA better..
I've been trying to wrap my head around the info provided by Da_G in this super thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
It is taking a while for a newbie like me..
When I had my XV6800(AKA Titan) after a while of modding I started cooking my own roms. I usually removed the garbage I would never use to shrink the Rom size. I then left for a BB in Nov. 2008. Well my senses have come around and I will be back to WinMo with a TP2 on Wed. So I would like to see a kitchen to cooking rom Tutorial assuming it is different. I know that of course CDMA vs GSM will be with because of the carrier CAB. This go around I am leaving VZW to T-Mobile.
So, what's happened with this and this thread? Has it all turned out to be a p**s take?
I would love to see a cohesive tutorial on how to cook a ROM.
I've poked around in the kitchen threads but have gotten kind of lost and overwhelmed. It seems like information is so scattered around.
I've been looking for a project to do for awhile and have thought that ROM cooking might be kinda fun. Initially, I'd just like to make something with the features I want but who knows where it might go. I think I've tried every TP2 ROM on XDA-Developers now and, while I've found some excellent ones, nothing that quite screams "this is EXACTLY what I want".
So...yeah...a good "how-to" would be excellent and I'd be forever grateful.
FWIW, I'd be happy to do some trade-work in exchange for this. I've got a pretty decent technical skill set...just not one involving ROM cooking.
Same here.. I'm stuck on getting a build to use.. Looking for a good NAM build : Tilt2 stock or something for Tilt2 will be a good start..
My first attempt is with the Eruvius Visual kitchen. I think I got all the required files. There were multiple download links in the original thread. I'm guessing that I get the older version and replace the latest kitchen .exe on top.
I'd love to try to cook my own ROM. I agree that the information seems sparse and kinda scattered. My cursory browsing very much gives the vibe that information for Touch Pro 2 ROM Development has an unspoken understanding that you've made ROMs before. Not me.
I'd love a simple step-by-step tutorial (for rhodium), cause I'd like to build a simple ROM based on the latest 5.5.3/5, without manila...
Hey guys,
Sorry for asking such a basic question but I have searched through the Wiki and tons of posts but I can't find the answer anywhere. Then again, I might have overlooked it since my eyes started to glaze over with the vast amount of information on this awesome site.
Anyways, the question:
Do you have to have a ROM flashed on your phone in order to use a theme?
I'm interested in using the Dirty Paper or Shakass theme and am confused on what I need to do.
I understand the premise of .cabs and whatnot.
Also, what version of Manilla (TouchFlo 3d) is on the Alltel Touch Pro? I get the phone in a week so I don't have it in hand.
Thanks guys for the time.