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Got my kaiser/tytn2 today
So I am leaving herald community and venturing over to kaiser.
What do that mean for herald? Well, Im gonna finish my 3 latest projects. The rom for p4350 wwe, and the norwegian rom. And ofcourse I will finish the tutorial.
But thats not all I am gonna do, I am gonna upload the sys, oem and rom folders for both wing and p4350. And I am also gonna upload a section of oem packages, some I have made, but mostly stuff I have found all over the forum. I will make it easy and add the oem packages into the OEM kitchen folder. This means that when you choose to build your rom, you will get a list of whats inside the oem folder, and then you can check or uncheck w/e you want to include in your rom.
The files and folders are no longer limited to personal use, if you wanna share your rom, please do so. But the condition will be that all roms released using the kitchen files (oem, rom and sys) a note with credits to the one spending alot of hours building for you
Im not leaving completly, incase some few are gonna miss me Im gonna check in once in a while and help out, and follow some up on the tutorial.
I cant promise this will be done this weekend, but I can promise that it will be all finished sometime before next weekend. That include the tutorial.
Now Im gonna dump my norwegain kaiser, and see what can be done with it
cheers
We'll miss you... unless you buy me a Kaiser, and then I'll just be happy along with you. lol
Anyhoo, I think my kitchen is finally done, (I've yet to try out the last ROM I've made) and it's all thanks to your base ROM (Minus some tweaking...)
I'll also be using Hyperkitchen to make some more tweaked ROMs. Hopefully, I'll become the next itje... without a kaiser...
Congrats my friend and excellent that you received your kaiser. Is it the Kaiser 120 (with 3meg pixel camera and and video calling capabilities)? This is definitely a step up for you (and your phone, lol). This is a step I look forward to making in a month. Although you're going to be relocating to the Kaiser forum and your new home will be there, your frequent presence and guidance here will be missed for sure .. and I will go out on a limb to say that's on the behalf of everyone here, lol. I'm sure that forum will treasure your insight and expertise. I'm also happy to hear you're not just leaving us, you're still going to make guest appearances here, LOL, and remain a consultant (sort of speak) for us amateur and experienced rom cookers.
Remember, you can always come back HOME (here, lol), if thing don't work out over there, LOL.
As for me, I'm using your latest beta version now, but I think I'm going to downgrade and use version 2 for my herald instead due to it's stability, until you have the final versions posted. I'm struggling with the keyboard issue, lol. Itje, Thank you for everything. PS .. The kaiser forum will be my new home in a month anyway, lol. So look forward to picking your brain, lol.
Congrats on the new handset. I know Ive been eyeballing the kaiser for a while but I need T-Mobile to carry it so I can get the employee discount.
I think I can speak for the rest of the herald and wing users when I say that we appreciate all the work you've put into the wing and herald. And of course, I cant wait for the finished tutorial!
robosiris said:
Congrats my friend and excellent that you received your kaiser. Is it the Kaiser 120 (with 3meg pixel camera and and video calling capabilities)? This is definitely a step up for you (and your phone, lol). This is a step I look forward to making in a month. Although you're going to be relocating to the Kaiser forum and your new home will be there, your frequent presence and guidance here will be missed for sure .. and I will go out on a limb to say that's on the behalf of everyone here, lol. I'm sure that forum will treasure your insight and expertise. I'm also happy to hear you're not just leaving us, you're still going to make guest appearances here, LOL, and remain a consultant (sort of speak) for us amateur and experienced rom cookers.
Remember, you can always come back HOME (here, lol), if thing don't work out over there, LOL.
As for me, I'm using your latest beta version now, but I think I'm going to downgrade and use version 2 for my herald instead due to it's stability, until you have the final versions posted. I'm struggling with the keyboard issue, lol. Itje, Thank you for everything. PS .. The kaiser forum will be my new home in a month anyway, lol. So look forward to picking your brain, lol.
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yeah it has 3mpix and video..its full htc kaiser tytn2
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yeah it has 3mpix and video..its full htc kaiser tytn2
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nice one itje will miss you too when you are not often around here in the herald forums ....
but the best thing is that you will upload the oem packages, sys and oem folder and that you will finish the tutorial. THIS IS F****NG GREAT
You will be missed.
Have fun with your new phone, I'm not quite ready to upgrade. I think I am going to see what HTC has up its sleeve next. Thanks for everything.
ITJE, I heard the Kaiser is a piece of crap. I suggest you get rid of it and stay with the Herald.
Seriously, I really appreciate all the work that you've done and given me much inspiration on cooking my own ROM for the Wing. You were like my Faria from the MDA forum when I used to carry that around.
I hope you enjoy your shiny new toy.
Lets have a farewell party and get drunk!!! haha
Oh, I am going to buy the kaiser whenver T-mobile USA releases it...
Its way too rich for my blood! Wing will do for now.
i don't mean to be a butt, but (lol) didn't you say that if we recooked and released one of your roms, you would stop cooking for herald? So now, can we do so without your permission? Or would you like to set another policy.
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i don't mean to be a butt, but (lol) didn't you say that if we recooked and released one of your roms, you would stop cooking for herald? So now, can we do so without your permission? Or would you like to set another policy.
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Ah.. butt you are(s)...
Butt.....dont you know how to read my friend?
butt..maybe I cant write....lol
the policy is, do whatever you want, Butt....!! remember, never forget, always remember, dont let it slip away, hold on to IT..get IT?
and no butts this time
said the atheist "Oh lord have mercy"
point taken. Let the (proverbial) floodgates open
cool it
wow kaiser, its like a fresh pair of boobs haha. naw really though u are the epidimy of the godfather for the wing and herald. u will be missed.
( we must learn to walk on our own feet )tutorial and research!
itje said:
Got my kaiser/tytn2 today
So I am leaving herald community and venturing over to kaiser.
What do that mean for herald? Well, Im gonna finish my 3 latest projects. The rom for p4350 wwe, and the norwegian rom. And ofcourse I will finish the tutorial.
But thats not all I am gonna do, I am gonna upload the sys, oem and rom folders for both wing and p4350. And I am also gonna upload a section of oem packages, some I have made, but mostly stuff I have found all over the forum. I will make it easy and add the oem packages into the OEM kitchen folder. This means that when you choose to build your rom, you will get a list of whats inside the oem folder, and then you can check or uncheck w/e you want to include in your rom.
The files and folders are no longer limited to personal use, if you wanna share your rom, please do so. But the condition will be that all roms released using the kitchen files (oem, rom and sys) a note with credits to the one spending alot of hours building for you
Im not leaving completly, incase some few are gonna miss me Im gonna check in once in a while and help out, and follow some up on the tutorial.
I cant promise this will be done this weekend, but I can promise that it will be all finished sometime before next weekend. That include the tutorial.
Now Im gonna dump my norwegain kaiser, and see what can be done with it
cheers
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Nice that you are finishing the new Norwegian rom for the P4350 I just wanna thank you for all your hard work and i'm happy that there are people like tou oute there .. hehe..
We will all miss you
Reading this thread seems that Itje had bigger problems. Luckily his bigger problem by now is getting used to his new device.
Thank you for all your efforts and nice work. All of your "betatesters" come to this thread to say goodbye. That's quite nice. Maybe the forum masters should consider creating a hall-of-fame for all of those who made it worth visiting daily. You have my vote.
Good luck and, who knows, maybe be meet again at the kaiser's forum.
P.S. Again, I'll be connecting daily hoping to find your (last) releases...
so itje when do you think you will release all your stuff here? cant wait to grab it off and take your position in the herald forums maybe i will be the next rom cooker. until now i have read much hours instuctions to build an own rom and i had no problem using your excellent instruction you posted here .....
miss ya maybe i will catch up a kaiser to and follow you *smile*
Just wanted to say thanks to itje, if it wasnt for your ROMS i would have jumped ship to the Kaiser along time ago! I guess I was spoilt as a Wizard user with all the roms available, but it was nice to have at least one chef for the herald. Thanks again.
Thanks Man,
If you didn't help with the roms... a piec of this phone would have ended up in a tmo reps A$$..
Thanks again
enjoy the incresed power!
please do not resurrect month old threads. sorry if i sound like a butt (no reference to past posts intended, but it IS convenient)
I will miss you man.
Hi all,
Sorry for the noob question. I just got my AT&T Tilt and I just want to make sure that I am in the right forum. Is this the forum for AT&T Tilt (AT&T 8925)? I've search around, it's either this forum or the Hermes forum. I appreciate anyone points me at the right direction.
Thanks a bunch!
forum
The 8925 is a Kaiser so you're in the correct forum.
The AT&T Tilt is just a re-brand of the HTC Kaiser phone. AT&T just names it the Tilt because it's hip and cool and something they can put a (TM) next to on packaging.
Thanks....
ceelo2007 & jon_k,
Thank you....awesome!
They should update the names that we call some of these devices so new people can see. Like instead of just 8525 it could be "At&t/Cingular 8525". You know?
heh...
I spent quite a bit of time figuring out if this was the right area at first too. They really need to add Tilt to the models next to Kaiser....
slippy42 said:
I spent quite a bit of time figuring out if this was the right area at first too. They really need to add Tilt to the models next to Kaiser....
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The naming conventions for the forums seem to be by HTC development codenames.
XDA-devs deals with many different models of HTC devices which have been re-branded by many different providers and depends on the source and region of your particular device and service.
So this site tends to use the pre-release codenames to refer to all devices of the same general hardware family. Hence the Tilt can be called a TytnII or a Kaiser or a Vario III, 8925...etc... with only minor diffs in hardware/software.
Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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its all in the flippin wiki
~~Tito~~ said:
Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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To avoid posts from people who are incapable of identifying what device they have. As well as "their" from "there". lol
Ahh, you caught me. . ., also there already is .
*I* know there is a wiki but do others?
Maybe they know but there not sure if it's over they're -------> or over their <------.
My opinion is that these forums are pretty technical, and if you can't properly identify your model, you probably don't belong here. I know from my expertise in Motorola modding that I have been PM'ed countless times by 12 year old kids that decided they were going to mod, hex edit, or flash their phone, bricked it, and then PM'ed me for a magical fix before their parents found out.
-Jay
Kaiser Tilt diffference
jon_k said:
The AT&T Tilt is just a re-brand of the HTC Kaiser phone. AT&T just names it the Tilt because it's hip and cool and something they can put a (TM) next to on packaging.
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Other than the name differential, I believe the Euro Kaiser has a camera on the front as well as the back for "video call". The tilt has the regular one in the back.
looking for help
hello i new and i have a unlocked tilt and would like help pimping out my phone to the max could you please help me install any and all updates to make this run faster and add new features to it like the new today pages and new key boards and skins all that cool stuff and screensavers.please help...thank you...im not good at this so i would need extra help...lol....
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hello i new and i have a unlocked tilt and would like help pimping out my phone to the max could you please help me install any and all updates to make this run faster and add new features to it like the new today pages and new key boards and skins all that cool stuff and screensavers.please help...thank you...im not good at this so i would need extra help...lol....
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Search, and when you need help then post a thread. . .
Ho,
I am reading and getting more intrigued re flashing my TyTnII with a suitable ROM, after my holidy in July of couse as I really need it for that.
But can someone explain how a cooked ROM is able to out perform a stock one?
I dont get it? Take GPS for example. I read that it is the radio driver tha deals with this?
So how come a huge organisation like HTC puts a radio on the device and then someone off their own back is able to do something with the driver to make it more effiecient?
Or am I totally discombobulated and talking gaa gaa?
pachjo said:
Ho,
I am reading and getting more intrigued re flashing my TyTnII with a suitable ROM, after my holidy in July of couse as I really need it for that.
But can someone explain how a cooked ROM is able to out perform a stock one?
I dont get it? Take GPS for example. I read that it is the radio driver tha deals with this?
So how come a huge organisation like HTC puts a radio on the device and then someone off their own back is able to do something with the driver to make it more effiecient?
Or am I totally discombobulated and talking gaa gaa?
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Well for one the software on Cooked ROMs is different. All the "Bloatware" is removed and some useful applications are cooked in.
As for radios there are many variaties (some ported from other devices) that perform better on different networks and different locations.
The radios arn't made by chefs, there just taken from different ROM's. I.e. some from the newest ATT Tilt, some from the Vodafone 6.1 ROM etc. etc.
Ta
Dave
HTC is a company with primary objective: making money
if you were HTC's owner, and assuming you want more and more money, would you release a product that is so perfect that nobody will never consider buying your next updated newer products? on the other hand, to attract customers to your current product you need to have amazing specifications listed in your marketing brochures (i.e. hardware features) which unfortunately can ONLY work with better "ingridients" of ROM (did somebody mention cooked ROMs ?)
ps: btw how old are you?
KaiserVideoDriver said:
HTC is a company with primary objective: making money
if you were HTC's owner, and assuming you want more and more money, would you release a product that is so perfect that nobody will never consider buying your next updated newer products? on the other hand, to attract customers to your current product you need to have amazing specifications listed in your marketing brochures (i.e. hardware features) which unfortunately can ONLY work with better "ingridients" of ROM (did somebody mention cooked ROMs ?)
ps: btw how old are you?
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Further to this, HTC "forgot" the drivers for the hardware graphics acceleration for the MSM chipset. There not all that good.
Dave (BTW if you want my age you'll have to find it )
couple things you can do. You can flash a radio and you can flash a cooked rom. Different radios can give you different reception, and even faster GPS lock. You will have to experiment on which one works best, as long as the radio is compatible with the rom. A cooked rom has a lot of programs stripped out from OEM which makes the rom a lot faster than the OEM.
Excellent chaps, I am more inclined to have a go!
Mmm how old am I?
Well let's see beleive it or not I am a programmer for a large organisation but know jack about all this stuff in the same way I know jack about web creation or networks. But I do know about programming database applications and in my time have written a few nice graphics programs.
Now here's the thing....can you guess my age?
Have worked here for 25 years and worked my way up the ranks, been married for 22 years and have a 21 year old son.......
BTW why do you want to know how old I am?
pachjo said:
Ho,
I am reading and getting more intrigued re flashing my TyTnII with a suitable ROM, after my holidy in July of couse as I really need it for that.
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How do cooked roms differ?
Well, to be honest, it's more about "usability / feel / look " than any other thing.
Original/Official roms are generally having an appalling feel and look. For example, take my network provider (Orange in UK). I had read a lot about TyTN_II (aka Tilt/Kaiser...etc.) before getting my own from Orange. The moment I unpacked the device and turned it on , I was completely disappointed. Orange engineers spend a lot of time "customizing" (i.e. ruining) the feel and look of the device so that it looks more Orange-ish.
Their fossil tech people bag their regular salary every month and are light years behind the current time. They have no desire/motivation to be innovative (that's why they do not realse a software update even every two years).
I received my SPVM3100 (aka TyTN) from Orange almost 3 years ago. Two and a half years later, when I received TyTN_II , I was shocked to see that they had loaded exactly the same bloatware and disgusting theme they had used on older HTC devices years ago.
xda rom developers are up-to-date; they are brilliant individuals who develop software out of their personal passion and love of technology. They know what is exactly going on in PDA community at this very moment. They listen to users' experiences in real life every day and they strive to make things look better, more practical and faster.
With an original/official rom you're stuck with what the HTC (or Orange, AT&T, Vodafone ...) developers put in your device ages ago. With cooked roms (depending on your actual use of the device) you have a variety of options to choose from.
And most important of all, you'll join the forum, get addicted to it, learn loads of new tweaks and work-arounds, and will see surprising new customized software almost every week.
Believe me, stay tuned in here and soon you'll notice that not only you're holding a completely different device in your hand, but also YOU will be a completely new user of the device ; a user more in command of the HTC you're carrying around
Welcome
Kooooooooooooool
I bought my TyTnII for £434 unlocked.
It has an Ornage sim card plus all the stuff I have loaed myself:
SBP Pocket Plus, Weather, Time etc and loads of German learning programs, speech and the like.
When I first came to this site I was put off as I did not fully grasp what it was all about, but that's me all over....should read the manual first
I really like the idea of flashing and getting rid of the bloatware as you call it and see how my device works afterwards.
But as I paid £434 for it if I brick it my wife will use said brick to remove my ability to father any heirs!!!!!
Yoinks!
pachjo said:
Kooooooooooooool
I bought my TyTnII for £434 unlocked.
It has an Ornage sim card plus all the stuff I have loaed myself:
SBP Pocket Plus, Weather, Time etc and loads of German learning programs, speech and the like.
When I first came to this site I was put off as I did not fully grasp what it was all about, but that's me all over....should read the manual first
I really like the idea of flashing and getting rid of the bloatware as you call it and see how my device works afterwards.
But as I paid £434 for it if I brick it my wife will use said brick to remove my ability to father any heirs!!!!!
Yoinks!
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As I have said to many new users, bricking only happens if you fail to read and follow instructions. Just read and take you time.
Ta
Dave
Well, if you do have an issue, "Brick", there are a few people around that can revive you. If ever in need search around, there's a guy that has revived a plethora of dead kaisers, but I can't remember his name at the moment.
Anyway, as this really is not development related, I'm gonna move it to the general section.
Welcome to XDA.
GSLEON3 said:
If ever in need search around, there's a guy that has revived a plethora of dead kaisers, but I can't remember his name at the moment.
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I think I know that guy aswell
Dave
My very good friend ather (ather90) is looking to buy a Kaiser (any variant) so that he could cook on it. If you have any reasonable offers (hopefully lower than 150 is what he's looking for), please either PM me or him. I know many of you have moved to other devices and have your devices laying around, so if you're interested, let him know. He's in Bahrain so you'd have to be able to ship international.
He would've posted this, but he thinks i'm more known here and wanted me to do it
LOL Thankx Bro, yes guyz im looking for a Kaiser, i dont care about the condition, the important thing is that it should be able to flash ROMs, the rest is no big for me..
Looking forward to cooking with the Kaiser People too
I just PM'ed him =)
I have 1 he may be able to use.Cosmetically its not the prettiest, but it functions 100% ( as its the one I use every day ). Also, I have one refurb that is like new Im looking to get a tad more for so I can recoup a few of my spent dollars. I think im wanting to get a new Fuze
thx to pyraxiate, i have found my next Device, aka Kaiser
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If anybody has a Tilt for sale that would like to sell it for a good cause, please PM me. Looking for one in the $100ish area or less.
Kareem which kitchen do you prefer to use when you cook for the kaiser? Which kitchen do you recommend for beginner rom cookers?
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Kareem which kitchen do you prefer to use when you cook for the kaiser? Which kitchen do you recommend for beginner rom cookers?
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Lol, kind of random in this thread. Anyhow, i use a combo of a lot of stuff. I finished uploading my kitchen yesterday (around half a gig) and i'll be releasing it soon so you and everybody else can use it.
Additional detail:
-Would like the Tilt to be in good condition and everything working.
-Doesn't matter where it's coming from.
-Payment via Paypal only
Official T-Mobile WinMo6.5 "Upgrade" Opinion (kind of @NRGZ28 related)
I just flashed (or whatever it’s called) the official T-Mobile RUU_Rhodium_S_TMOUS_1.91.531.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.57_Signed_Ship.exe upgrade. I have been using NRGroms since I first received my TP2 which I think was in Oct. I actually sometimes still use an old ROM I like best, EnergyROM 23016 Rhodium 10.17.09 Standard. 23016 has been my favorite upgrade build for WinMo I think. But what do I know about the background work. I just know it’s had the best stability of all ROMs I’ve used and 23016 and has the better customizable standard 6.5 start menu. For example, when you long press and item instead of saying “Move to Top”, it lets you drag it anywhere a la Droid home screen. Well not as customizable. I didn't even try the original stock ROM until the 3rd or 4th TP2 I "purchased" for a friend or family member. Right now they are FREE and you can even get $100 for your old smartphone lying around. I sent in an old Tmo Dash non 3g that I fuct up and got the rebate. You can get that rebate here http://www.htctradein.com/t-mobile/ . As for the link for the free phone I don’t want to post it to keep it active as long as possible. But if you really want it though, just PM me.
Ok so back to the Official 6.5 Rom. Well about say 6-7 hours of use I can say that I will more than likely be heading back to EnergyROM_21885_RHODIUM_31.Dec.2009_Standard or the 23016 build. There are few things irk me that aren’t done off the bat on the new Tmo build. First is the 3 row start menu which I know can be easily changed to 4, but it isn’t. Also, when you lay the phone face down the speakerphone does not automatically activate. The folders aren’t nicely managed on the huge start menu. (Sorry I’m a little baked so can’t think clearly. Just went to a friend’s house to pick up 2 laptops I’m going to fix for him and he greeted me at the sink with a great already loaded gravity bong with some decent nug so I’m not thinking to clearly and can’t remember everything I really hate.) I don’t like Manila, I use SPB Mobile Shell, but this one doesn’t compare to 2.5 of even the 2.1 on NRGs. Umm the background is a little ehh. Of course no tethering and all other great included NRG freeware apps he cooked in. Umm it comes with 6.5 build 21881.5.0.84 compared to NRG 218815 that I use. Lots of bloatware somewhere or official apps I haven’t yet tried to remove but when installing my first cab I noticed there a good chunk of internal memory missing compared to the much lighter NRG build with much more useful freeware included. It must be the included TeleNav app, plus a few others.
So don’t get me wrong, it’s a great Official Rom. For a standard user off the street I’d definitely recommend it to. I’m just comparing it to what I am used to. Every time I get an Android, I come right back. WinMo is by far the supreme OS to me. I just can’t wait for “Windows Phone 7.” I don’t post much so don’t get upset if I post in the wrong place or if I comeback to say the original point I meant to make in this opinion that I forgot somewhere along the tree branched mix up there. What does everyone else think? What do you not like or **** do you like. Got to get back to business as usual but wanted to leave a little insight on the official ROM for those of you thinking of making the switch. In my honest opinion, just keep the NRG because it’s not worth the hassle and I’ve already done a lot of work customizing NRG ROMS to my preference. Well take easy. Sorry again for the Larry David-esque post about nothing.
tRodHxC
Download link?
Is there a link where the Official T-Mobile 6.5 rom can be downloaded from? I searched Google on the name that you listed, "T-Mobile RUU_Rhodium_S_TMOUS_1.91.531.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49. 25.57_Signed_Ship.exe" and only found this thread in my results.
THanks!
Ya heres where i got it...
BohicaBobby said:
Is there a link where the Official T-Mobile 6.5 rom can be downloaded from? I searched Google on the name that you listed, "T-Mobile RUU_Rhodium_S_TMOUS_1.91.531.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49. 25.57_Signed_Ship.exe" and only found this thread in my results.
THanks!
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T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 ROM Leaked!!! Download here!
http://bit.ly/5AGLnC
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http://76.163.140.78/RUU_Rhodium_S_TMOUS_1.91.531.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.57_Signed_Ship.exe
Link
Enjoy!
Hey man,
My name's josh, Just wonderin what the purpouse of you're thread is. i'm a little confused about it, it disscusses NRG's rom and the official rom, both have they're own threads. Why start a new thread??
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Hey man,
My name's josh, Just wonderin what the purpouse of you're thread is. i'm a little confused about it, it disscusses NRG's rom and the official rom, both have they're own threads. Why start a new thread??
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Well from reading his post, he said he is "baked" so one can only assume baked+computer=pointless posts.
In all seriousness though, I find the big problem I have with the new Unofficial "official" Tmo US rom is that it is just way too slow. Everything else aside, the slowness is what kills this rom for me. However its nice to have an offical rom to downgrade to in the event that the phone breaks or w/e.
And come on. We finally have visual voicemail on our TP2's!!
Too true my friend...
closing thread.. please post questions regarding nrg's rom in his thread and the same with the official thread.
Peace,
Josh