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Hello,
I've been reading up on the kaiser for a little while now and think the specs are amazing.
I've been meaning to get a new phone for a while now, upgrade from my samsung e715. I'm thinking about getting the t-mobile wing as a replacement.
I was wondering if this is a feasible idea, I mean, with the possibility of at&t getting the kaiser, should I wait for that to unlock it?
Will T-mobile be getting a nicer/better version of the p4550 when/if there 3G network goes up?
Just seeking some input, and any would be much appreciated. Thank you
Yea... upgrade! WM will be a bit of a shock to you, it's quite different than what you're used to in terms of mobile telephony. The Kaiser would be a great piece of technology for anyone to own, however the price tag may not be everyone's cup of tea. Personally I plan to get an unlocked one for some 800 dollars. ATT may offer it for 500 with 2 year plan. As for unlocking, if you have international travel ahead of you in a near future then I believe there is a SIM unlock solution already. If not, I wouldn't worry about it until you need it unlocked.
oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.
lemonhead said:
oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.
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if i were you i wouldnt get the wing. its too slow, plus on a lot of them theres a memory problems. i used to have t-mobile but when i switched to cingular i found out they're much better and the signal is much better. also you get more minutes for the same price t-mobile offers.
so right now i have a t-mobile sda unlocked for cingular, just waiting for the kaiser. I dont know how long it will take before there is a Kaiser Sim unlock utility, so you can either get an unlocked htc kaiser or the AT&T Tilt (their calling the 8925 that now) and wait for a sim unlock utility.
think it would work on the t-mobile 3g network? on the 1700 band?
Hello,
Any1 tried a dual sim method for this kaiser?
im using it on my mda vario III with no problems to be honest there is one little problem as my device is locked to t-mob, so i can change the sims but when i go to o2 im not really able to use it. but it works with the today plugin..have been using it on me vario II and love it. really useful thingy.
cudo
cudo said:
im using it on my mda vario III with no problems to be honest there is one little problem as my device is locked to t-mob, so i can change the sims but when i go to o2 im not really able to use it. but it works with the today plugin..have been using it on me vario II and love it. really useful thingy.
cudo
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Can you post the Today Plugin please?
Nadav.
all credits go to Pelargonium for making the cab ! thanks
cudo said:
all credits go to Pelargonium for making the cab ! thanks
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Thanks
Nadavi
What kinda device did ya use?
A card where you have to cut your sims? Or one with a cable so ya put 2 sims in a device...
after reaading this there should be questions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=6443818
cudo
The link is coming up dead. Any suggestions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302759&highlight=dual+sim+holder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273387&highlight=dual+sim+holder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300588&highlight=dual+sim+holder
or use search as i did.
cudo
Stupid Question
Guys what does dual sim means or do?
http://www.mobileguru.co.uk/Dual SIM.html
or google it, it would take you less time then posting a massage ?
cudo
dual sim
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302759&highlight=dual+sim+holder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273387&highlight=dual+sim+holder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300588&highlight=dual+sim+holder
or use search as i did.
cudo
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Cudo, (sorry maybe a noob question) I have the AT&T tilt with the unlimited data plan and 3G icon is on all the time not the small 3g over the signal meter. In USA it is great, however I travel to Europe 2 weeks per month and carry two phones. I read all the links and still have a question - on the kaiser which dual sim device you are using and is it fully compatible with the 3G data in USA. Thanks
http://www.mobileguru.co.uk/Dual SIM.html that is the one im using but as im uk i cannot be sure about its compatibility in usa. it works perfect for me in uk. it support both 2G and 3G/3.5G. i would assume you will have no problems either in europe or usa while using this dual card holder and be sure to trim your sims correctly as i have had some problems doing it and ended up with around 5 attempts before i got it right
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all credits go to Pelargonium for making the cab ! thanks
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For me, this today plug-in does not work on Kaiser (T-Mobile Vario III).
Worked great on HTC P3600 (Trinity). The only way I change my network is through Com Manager (Flight mode on/off).
I have also trimmed both of my original cards and I use a non-digital dual sim adaptor. The digital adaptors drain the battery.
Which phone and rom do you have? How come it works in your case? Is it a rom issue?
Thanks
any updates on this?
Is there a working dual sim method and a today cab for the kaiser?
thnx
Yea, no way to make my dual sim work on my kaiser...
It worked on my TyTN, my Artemis, but not on my kaiser, and with every rom I tried (Original HTC, Dutty, Thuffir...) waaaaaaaaaa !
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any updates on this?
Is there a working dual sim method and a today cab for the kaiser?
thnx
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http://www.simore.ch/video.php?docid=4252089370799833656
it was however unclear whether it can support both GSM 3G SIM cards, I have read several posting over the past 2 hours and some postings claimed that:
... it only works in both 2G SIM cards
... it supports 3G n' 2G, but u need to disable the feature)
there is no concrete answer yet, anyone care to post test results?
Thx n' Rgrs,
Hi -- this is all pretty new to me, so be gentle... Let's say that I install a dual/twin sim holder and then plug-in 2 sim cards, each with their own phone number (let's call them PN1 and PN2). If I have PN1 active, will I hear, and be able to answer, a call on PN2, and vice versa?
I had the same question. I bet on most phones, only one sim is active at a time. But I googled and found this:
http://www.cellaz.com/news/1556/verzio-duplii-3g-dual-sim-cell-phone/
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I had the same question. I bet on most phones, only one sim is active at a time. But I googled and found this:
http://www.cellaz.com/news/1556/verzio-duplii-3g-dual-sim-cell-phone/
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That would be ideal. I'm sure someone here has, or is quite able to, come up with a solution for our existing phones. For the record, I'd like it to work with the ATT Tilt...
I have T-mobile and I really like the Tilt. If I were to able to get it unlocked will it work on T-Mobile's network?
If you you already have the HTC Tilt and using it on T-Mobile are there any conflicts?
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I have T-mobile and I really like the Tilt. If I were to able to get it unlocked will it work on T-Mobile's network?
If you you already have the HTC Tilt and using it on T-Mobile are there any conflicts?
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Yes It works, I have not had any problems on T-mobile
You don't have any problems sending and receiving messages, or getting on the web?
How would I get it unlocked?
for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of s***. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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Well I am sure the Tilt is not as bad as the Wing!!!
wsmith79 said:
for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of s***. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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DUDE, calm down. . . some people wont use it for what we use it so the problem wont make it self that obvious. Geez. . . the tilt is the best pda out(just lacking drivers) and it is nice to use. . .
wsmith79 said:
for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of s***. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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I think the tilt is a great phone, even if it isn't as great as it has potential to be. If something happened to mine today, I would buy another tomorrow. If you want a phone specifically for watching videos and taking pictures you could do better, but the tilt is one of best PDAs on the market right now (if not THE best).
HTC definately needs to come up with some drivers for us, but you have to admit, they still made one heck of a nice phone.
With my Tilt on T-Mobile I get all my services fine. I even use the 5.99 data plan for my internet on it. I reflashed to Dutty's 6.1, and when I hard reset, it asked me if I wanted to auto configure to T-Mobile's settings. Hit yes, viola, done.
Hey, all you haters out there: He probably already read the NUMEROUS threads about the driver issues. How could he miss them? Please let newbies make their own decisions on what devices they want to purchase. All he has to do is lurk, and he'll find more than enough information on the Tilt/Kaiser.
I have had no problems at all with my tilt and tmobile. Two ways to get it unlocked are to call att and ask them to unlock it for you, or what most people are now unlocking it themselves using jockyw2001 Kaiser Sim Unlocker. Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
Good luck do a lot of reading.
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for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of sh**. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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Mod Request: Lose the bad language, If you have nothing to contribute to the forum then do not post.
email routing issue + cannot download TM's w/ pics
Hi All ~~
It sounds like I may have found the right msg board! I am a T-Mobile customer using an unlocked AT&T phone with the original ROM (minus the bloatware). I currently have three msging accounts on the Tilt: test msging, a hotmail account and a work email account. I am having two annoying problems:
(1) I keep getting TMs saying that I have received an email on my work account; however I cannot (a) get the text msg notifications to turn off, nor (b) get the emails to actually pull down into the account. So: I know I have a work email (even who from), but cannot read it. Any thoughts on how to resolve either or both of these issues?
(2) I cannot receive or send pic text msgs. Really annoying; I am curious to see how other T-Mobile Tilt users have their settings arranged for this.
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide ~~ Kim
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Tilt on T-mob
Im in the same boat.. A little further down the river.. Here is what I did.. Bought a brand new Tilt of Craigslist for $300.. I did 3 things..
I used a service on Ebay that gave me the unlock code for my phone.. search TILT or HTC unlock on ebay.. Costs $13 and is well worth it to avoid the risk of flashing the phone.. ++ I don't know how valuable your time is but it was well worth $13 to me.. It takes a while of digging around in the forums and figuring things out before you feel comfortable with all of the procedures and language.. I think I saw my phone actually trembling with fear as I plugged her in for a flash.. Maybe that was me..
Getting the unlock code for your phone gets the tilt working right out of the gate.. Put in your Tmobile sim, enter the unlock code and voila!! The only thing you need to do now is change the network settings for T-mobile Data..
After getting the phone unlocked, I did finally get the Hard SPL to work.. After that I flashed Dutty's new 6.1 Rom.. Everything is working great.. Love this phone..
IC
wsmith79 said:
for the love of god please do NOT BUY A TILT!! can you not read all of the major threads in this forum? the htc tytn11 aka att tilt is a big pile of s***. If people keep buying this phone, htc will do nothing about the problems of this phone. get informed and buy a different phone please.
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I love my tilt and I paid full price for it from ATT. There is nothing wrong with it. Its a phone not a laptop or server. It does what it was intended to do period.
muthaflaco said:
With my Tilt on T-Mobile I get all my services fine. I even use the 5.99 data plan for my internet on it. I reflashed to Dutty's 6.1, and when I hard reset, it asked me if I wanted to auto configure to T-Mobile's settings. Hit yes, viola, done.
Hey, all you haters out there: He probably already read the NUMEROUS threads about the driver issues. How could he miss them? Please let newbies make their own decisions on what devices they want to purchase. All he has to do is lurk, and he'll find more than enough information on the Tilt/Kaiser.
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So if I flash my tilt with dutty's 6.1 when i turn it on it will automatically ask me to configure T-mobiles settings for the data plan? The 5.99 data plan works with all the internet sites and programs. I've tried everything for it to work )=. Thanks in advance.
moddin said:
So if I flash my tilt with dutty's 6.1 when i turn it on it will automatically ask me to configure T-mobiles settings for the data plan? The 5.99 data plan works with all the internet sites and programs. I've tried everything for it to work )=. Thanks in advance.
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Yea, there are some roms that come with the settings configure app from HTC pre installed, if not just look in the cab data base down load it, then pop out then re pop your sim in turn it on and it will do it.
moddin said:
So if I flash my tilt with dutty's 6.1 when i turn it on it will automatically ask me to configure T-mobiles settings for the data plan? The 5.99 data plan works with all the internet sites and programs. I've tried everything for it to work )=. Thanks in advance.
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Yes, and no. When you have 6.1 on it, the first thing it asks is if you want to configure to T-Mobile's network. If you have the Data Plan, it will configure for it. It will be just the Data though. You still have to manually input the proxies to get the full internet. The settings are here, on post #4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357197&highlight=tilt+tmobile+internet
Everything is great so far about the Tilt, i only have 2 problems, I can either search the internet using the Tmobile Data setting, or i can get MMS messages using the T-Mobile MMS setting, however i cannot get both to work at the same time. If anyone has figured this out please let me know how you did it.
The other problem is just the short battery life i seem to be getting.
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Everything is great so far about the Tilt, i only have 2 problems, I can either search the internet using the Tmobile Data setting, or i can get MMS messages using the T-Mobile MMS setting, however i cannot get both to work at the same time. If anyone has figured this out please let me know how you did it.
The other problem is just the short battery life i seem to be getting.
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Call T-Mobile and ask for a OTA settings transfer. They are very lenient with unlocked phones. Just say its a WM6 Pda phone and they will send you the settings.
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Yes, and no. When you have 6.1 on it, the first thing it asks is if you want to configure to T-Mobile's network. If you have the Data Plan, it will configure for it. It will be just the Data though. You still have to manually input the proxies to get the full internet. The settings are here, on post #4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357197&highlight=tilt+tmobile+internet
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i bought my tilt the day it came out my friend unlocked it i input the info and my internet works fine
i jus cant send instant messages
nor send emails all of a sudden
hi all, I bought a TOB locked device which worked finme on TMOB, getting 3g and H all the time. i had to move to AT&T so I unlocked the device (thru TMOB) and got the appropriate service at AT&T. But my device only shows EDGE. Card shows 3g in an iphone so it isnt that. Anyone know why im only getting EDGE???
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hi all, I bought a TOB locked device which worked finme on TMOB, getting 3g and H all the time. i had to move to AT&T so I unlocked the device (thru TMOB) and got the appropriate service at AT&T. But my device only shows EDGE. Card shows 3g in an iphone so it isnt that. Anyone know why im only getting EDGE???
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ATT and TMobile use different 3g bands so EDGE is all you will ever get. Same thing happens in reverse until there are phones that support both sets of bands (not likely).
well thats just GREAT!!
thanks. have to port to t-mob again!
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ATT and TMobile use different 3g bands so EDGE is all you will ever get. Same thing happens in reverse until there are phones that support both sets of bands (not likely).
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To expand on what you said, they use different 3G bands AND the hardware that is able to talk to said bands is exclusive to both AT&T and T-Mobile TP2 phones. There is a physical hardware difference between the two, so upgrading to a different radio will not allow you use your T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T's 3G network, either.
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To expand on what you said, they use different 3G bands AND the hardware that is able to talk to said bands is exclusive to both AT&T and T-Mobile TP2 phones. There is a physical hardware difference between the two, so upgrading to a different radio will not allow you use your T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T's 3G network, either.
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In other words, do a bit more research on these phones before you jump ship on carriers!
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In other words, do a bit more research on these phones before you jump ship on carriers!
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Aye. It's like with my wife. She has a G1 right now with T-Mobile. However, her friend has a MeToo (iPhone) with AT&T. Of course, she wants the iPhone now and told me that other day that she can get one that is already unlocked for use with other carriers. I had to explain to her that I would get her the iPhone if she wanted, but that she would NOT get 3G while on T-Mobile's network given the hardware constraints. She didn't say much after that.
Research is key. I see it every day in the NRG ROM thread. People see "Manila 2.5" and immediately grab that version. However, they fail to research and don't realize that Manila 2.5 is still in its beta form from HTC. They ask why certain functions don't work...they even seem surprised when they don't work. When explained to them that it is still in beta form, they quickly go back to lurking.
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Aye. It's like with my wife. She has a G1 right now with T-Mobile. However, her friend has a MeToo (iPhone) with AT&T. Of course, she wants the iPhone now and told me that other day that she can get one that is already unlocked for use with other carriers. I had to explain to her that I would get her the iPhone if she wanted, but that she would NOT get 3G while on T-Mobile's network given the hardware constraints. She didn't say much after that.
Research is key. I see it every day in the NRG ROM thread. People see "Manila 2.5" and immediately grab that version. However, they fail to research and don't realize that Manila 2.5 is still in its beta form from HTC. They ask why certain functions don't work...they even seem surprised when they don't work. When explained to them that it is still in beta form, they quickly go back to lurking.
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Yup I do agree some research is always good! But TP2 is worth it without 3G... I dont loose much by loosing 3G compatibility.
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Yup I do agree some research is always good! But TP2 is worth it without 3G... I dont loose much by loosing 3G compatibility.
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ditto on that, where I live we don't get stable 3g and when we do I don't notice any speed advantages. When I drive to atlanta where they have a stable 3G I only noticed that google maps DIDN"T like to even connect at 3G. And I wasn't really using anything else while there, I actually disabled the stupid 3G radio on my pantech just so I could use google maps. Sooo... never really had it anyway and got tired of waiting for ATT to drop their TP2 or even the TD2. bought a TM TP2 and I've been in heaven ever since. Phooey 3G... who needs ya? I got WiFi and edge is fine for whatever else I need on the road.
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Yup I do agree some research is always good! But TP2 is worth it without 3G... I dont loose much by loosing 3G compatibility.
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I agree! I followed you here from kaiser! I love my tmobile tp2 on ATT... no need for 3g Shall u be cooking an amazing rhodium rom anytime soon????
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I agree! I followed you here from kaiser! I love my tmobile tp2 on ATT... no need for 3g Shall u be cooking an amazing rhodium rom anytime soon????
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Hey guy! Good to see you here....I just started cooking my own ROM's, not sure if I will release them though!
Yea 3G will be nice, but not a necessity! LOL
thanks to all of you for making me feel so good. its no issue to return to tmob just time!!
i've been with tmobile forever and this is my first taste of 3g, and i gotta say, i was much more excited about it than actually having it. i get 3g in my area and it makes nearly no difference in what i do with opera mini.
espn will load a hair faster and i finally get a good slingbox stream, but other than that, i wouldn't die if i had to go back to edge
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i've been with tmobile forever and this is my first taste of 3g, and i gotta say, i was much more excited about it than actually having it. i get 3g in my area and it makes nearly no difference in what i do with opera mini.
espn will load a hair faster and i finally get a good slingbox stream, but other than that, i wouldn't die if i had to go back to edge
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You will see a MUCH bigger difference when you aren't using a browser that compresses the data before it gets to your phone.
Opera mini does just that. Thus, you won't see much of a difference between Edge and 3G. Skyfire also does it as well, I believe.
When you start downloading "raw" data, though, you will really see the difference in speed.
I have read and searched google for a while now and cant find anything recent concerning the ATT Captivate on the Tmobile network.
Some Youtube vids but they are all ancient.
The latest tread i found was dated around mid June 2013 involving Straight Talk and it did not seem to have a final resolution as to weather it's possible or not to use att's cap on Tmobile network.
Phone in question belongs to my daughter in-law and wants to have phone active for basic call use, not interested in getting new updated phone (S3 or S4) just concerned with basic calling and texting.
I have put phone thru its paces and it works fine as a 4" tablet on wifi , its running GB 2.3.5 , baseband I897UCKJ3 , kernel 2.6.35.7-I897UCKJ3 -CL614489 , build GB.UCKJ3.
I would appreciate any input on this from anyone that may still have a Captivate running on any pay as you go plan.
TIA.
Pp.
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I have read and searched google for a while now and cant find anything recent concerning the ATT Captivate on the Tmobile network.
Some Youtube vids but they are all ancient.
The latest tread i found was dated around mid June 2013 involving Straight Talk and it did not seem to have a final resolution as to weather it's possible or not to use att's cap on Tmobile network.
Phone in question belongs to my daughter in-law and wants to have phone active for basic call use, not interested in getting new updated phone (S3 or S4) just concerned with basic calling and texting.
I have put phone thru its paces and it works fine as a 4" tablet on wifi , its running GB 2.3.5 , baseband I897UCKJ3 , kernel 2.6.35.7-I897UCKJ3 -CL614489 , build GB.UCKJ3.
I would appreciate any input on this from anyone that may still have a Captivate running on any pay as you go plan.
TIA.
Pp.
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The most basic answer is yes you can run the cappy on T-Mobile. That being said the phone will have to be unlocked in order to work on another carrier. You can either contact AT&T and ask them to give you the unlock code, find a site online that will sell you the unlock code, or find one of the many threads on here about how to do it yourself. If you do it yourself it will most likely require your phone to be rooted first. I even believe it's as simple as downloading an app from the play store and running it to unlock.
Now with all that being said if the person plans on using data at all you could run into a small problem. T-Mobile uses a different frequency for 3G/4G data than AT&T so you may only be able to connect to EDGE which is very slow compared to what you may be used to.
Thanks ml, its rooted already and looking into unlocking. Afterwards is it just a matter of slipping a tmob card into SIM slot?
Thanks again for your input, much appreciated. :thumbup:
Pp.
From my Epic Touch full of Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2.
PanchoPlanet said:
Thanks ml, its rooted already and looking into unlocking. Afterwards is it just a matter of slipping a tmob card into SIM slot?
Thanks again for your input, much appreciated. :thumbup:
Pp.
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Yes after its unlocked you should be able to pop the sim in and go. The only thing you might have to do is figure apn settings to make data services work. But that's not nessecary for calls and basic texting to work.
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I used my Cappy last year with a Roam Mobilility, a company that sells
US airtime here in Canada for travelers. It runs on the T-mobile network. T-mobile is slowly changing their data network so you can get the H symbol when connected in larger centers. If you aren't in those areas you only get edge data speeds. Vegas, and Phoenix both had the new towers set up and I got great speeds there. The phone does work well for calls also.