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I recently see this thread, and i feel it in the same way, do you?
here is the original Thread:
yipeng said:
我个人觉得现在的rom发布已经陷入一种怪圈了，有没有人进来一起聊聊
现在的新rom真是曾出不穷啊，每每有新核心或者新驱动出来的时候，各大高手纷纷抛出自己的作品，引的无数机油纷纷尝试。等到新鲜劲过去，各种在使用中的bug报告也纷纷出炉。而此时往往又有新的内核发布，于是现有的rom又被人们遗弃在一边而去追求更新的版本去了。
但是这样究竟有什么意义呢？难道新版本号的几个数字的变化真的能让使用者感到翻天覆地的变化吗？
我认为一个真正的高手应该致力于某一个版本，比如简体中文的20769版的不断改进和发展，直至制作出一款接近完美的作品。而不是简单的汉化最新的英文rom，加上一点自己的创新就急匆匆地发布，以至于老bug还没有解决就出现一堆新bug
能被人们长久的记住的是永恒的经典而不是昙花一现的前卫
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My translation: (sorry for my poor English)
I personally feel that the publication of Roms is trap in a strange circle, anyone notice?
Now new roms are flooded in the forum. Every time there is a new build, all cookers are working hard with the new build rom and then publicize it. Then People flash the new rom. After the freshness of the new Rom is gone, bugs are the offspring. However, a newer rom is out, then People do it again until the next more newer rom, and then on and on.
What is the meaning of getting the new rom? Is there any significant improve between a earlier and later build?
I believe that a really cooker should focus on one build, such as the Chinese Simple Build 20769, until a perfect rom is born. But not translate the rom into Chinese and add some new features then rush to publicize the so called product, which cause the old bugs are not solved but new bugs keep coming out.
What impress people is the perfectly perfect, not the newest.
to be honest, i don't think cookers just rush to the newer build. i have tried many ROMs and see many cookers struggling with fixing bugs like miri, onkolog, duttys, they all try to fix all the bugs they can. but most of these bugs has to do with manila or MS, so its out of their hand.
IMO, i don't think perfectly perfect is what i want, cuz i will get bored with perfectly perfect. i like a mix of decently perfect and newest
I agree with some of the stuff. The choice of which ROM you wish to flash is entirely up to you. If you're even slightly interested in picking a good ROM, then surely you know that installing the latest "state-of-the-art" ROM unavoidably includes some compromises (read: Bugs. Bunch of them. Bugsville!).
The biggest step forward in Blackstone ROM's have been Dutty 1.8. After that we have had 1.9, and then a whole flood of latest Topaz and Rhodium ROMs. That first one was a bug fest, but the second version was already close to perfection. The third was even better.
In terms of "freshness" these are now not new ROMs, but the advantage over the latest ones are:
- bugs have been brought to minimum
- any possible issues have been covered in length
- workarounds, hacks and stuff like that is usually also available in detail
So, to say that chefs should stick to just one ROM is silly. You're fighting progress here, and in a scene such as XDA expecting chefs to stick with just one ROM and polish it to perfection is not very realistic.
Chefs do what they do. They cook up stuff and offer it to the community. The community then tastes the new stuff, tears it apart to bits an pieces, usually finds ways to improve it, and then the cycle starts over.
It's just how it is.
If you want reliability, pick a ROM that's say 1-2 months old. Or even better - stick with the default one.
Good point but...
I have found a perfect rom... and every time the cooker comes out with an other new it is even better and nicer... It's the theme I'm facing to follow the upgrades as it's becoming more an more nicer in temes of icons splash screens etc...
So for me is ok when they go ahead.
If you don't like to flash all the time... just have a look for your perfect rom and stay with it...
Have a nice day
Roman
..nobody is obliged in flashing the newest ROM with the latest arrivals! a new ROM is simply an offer, it is up to you to decide your own policy. Some cooks go for reliability and bugs fixing, some cooks for the latest features: the same should be for users. While HTC has to support all users independently of their knowlegde (and in this respect Apple does a much better job...they are even able to support dummies and old ladies! ), i assume that people navigating here is an intelligent and aware user, capable of picking up what's best for him, based on the feedback of the other people.
In my opinion, the Cooked ROMs are Waaaaaaaaaaaay better in stability, performance and have much better features integrated than the Stock ROMs. So, if not for this community and the Cooked ROMs, I would be changing devices instead of the ROMs. So, I am happy (stike that) rather glad to be using Cooked ROMs and testing them.
It' a game. And I hope for all of us that nobody is really addicted to flash again and again.
So, I can only speak for myself and I am old enough to know what I do and why I flash a new version of my rom. I have reasons for and flash not every versions. I check before if it has improvements for me and only flash it in this case, then check it and when it has fewer issues, I let it stay.
But you are right, some comments in the forum are strange and it seems to be, that some users here flash only because there is a "newer" rom. Most of them doesn't know exectly what they are doing and when something goes wrong (in most of the cases) they overflow the forum whith their questions.
1. for me it's that the stock rom is filled with buggs, but tweakable.
2. I try cooked roms with some bugs, better tweaked.
3. with their updates less bugs, max tweaked.
4. one day you find your perfect rom without any bugs, maximum speed & satisfaction.
5. but I'm getting bored.
6. so I'm getting interested in new stuff (at the moment it's windows 6.5, new manila) and I find myself in flashing new roms with bugs.
7. goto 1.
well, it's just fun
No offence but is it absolutely necassary to start a new thread for every little thing that comes to mind?
What we have to remember here is the cooks and developers that are bringing us custom ROM's do it because they realize the short-fall of official ROM's and possibly they enjoy it, plus there's always hope of reward.
If you think you can do a better job then stop criticizing put on your Apron and start cooking, believe me its not as easy as it looks, at least not so easy to solve bugs, the process is very time consuming.
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The biggest step forward in Blackstone ROM's have been Dutty 1.8. After that we have had 1.9, and then a whole flood of latest Topaz and Rhodium ROMs. That first one was a bug fest, but the second version was already close to perfection. The third was even better.
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I am now with Dutty's 1.7 which is the stablest one before all the topaz/rhodium ROMs.
I've tried Dutty's 2.1 and had a lot of bugs, I've tried L26 v.8 and v.9 but still to many bugs (espcially with camera and album rotation).
for my experince i think the topaz is more stable. I like the new contact manager and new dialer and some others like the calculator and Calendar tab.
I don't like the new rhodium program menu since HTC coverd all tracks of WM (for better or for worse)
Please advise me which ROM (that has the features that I've mentioned) is the most stable and bug free...(best if you mention versions from Dutty, L26, Daviduek or other known cookers). best if as close to a stable HTC diamond 2/pro2 that is out there already.
I think the perfect rom is a myth and doesn't exist. Tweaks and fixes will always need to be applied to roms. I don't think cookers will rush to newer builds. I have tried many ROMs and seen many cookers struggling with fixing bugs. No cooker wants their rom full of bugs. Why would they? No one would use their rom! They all try to fix all the bugs they can, but most of these bugs has to do with manila or MS, so its out of their hands.
If we had the perfect rom, would we not get bored? Isn't it the tweaking and fixing that we are addicted to?
The choice of which ROM you wish to flash is entirely up to you. Everyone whats the latest, the newest. Its part of human culture. But with new comes the unknown, i.e. unknown bugs. As Rozenthal said, their is a compromise!
Dutty has released countless new versions to his Rhodium rom to solve bugs and because of this bugs have been brought to minimum.
I tryed only 3 cooked rom for HD, because reading the opinions of people that try it before me, I have learned that this 3 were without problems. I haven't yet tryed one with manila V3 because I'm waiting one that works well and because I use PDA and want phone that in the need moment not crashs or has some bugs. So, who use phone every day I think that he uses a rom without bugs, who has more time to spend can also try new roms and reports bugs.
I totaly agree with the originator of this blog.
I've tried roms from dutty, hellonasty, lavrentius, davideuck, maglite (russian guy), neos2007. And I noticed that the roms that I liked the most were developed from the shipped HTC WWE 1.19.831 rom (os build 20764, 20769, 21015, 21018), not the latest one from topaz or rhodium. And I do believe this rom was for Hong-Kong devices.
may be it is my visual perception .
Neos2007s rom +1
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Waiting for the best WM 6.5 rom
Hey fellow beta testers and chefs... I decided to create this thread so all of us are aware of what ROM's can we actually use and not have to sniff for bugs (that's if your purpose is solely for testing). I know theres a ROM library stick thread but it's still not clear especially to the noobs as to which ROMs are completely bug free. So let me do the honours of posting the first ROM :
Touch X 10.1 ULTIMATE X-TREME "FINAL"
Feel free to add on the thread so we can have a list going please! And thanks for reading my post!
UnOff v5 by Spikegotti - bug free, 100% original xperia on top of wm6.5, stable, fast and very battery efficient.
Ok here's the issue I faced with the v5 UnOff and older ones. The Xperia dialer skin has to be disabled in order for the scrolling bug. But I really like that skin and it represents our X1's; without the skin it's nasty. Please correct if theres a fix without removing the skin. Thanks! So basically when I mean bug free..It has to be PERFECT!
qweqwe99 said:
Ok here's the issue I faced with the v5 UnOff and older ones. The Xperia dialer skin has to be disabled in order for the scrolling bug. But I really like that skin and it represents our X1's; without the skin it's nasty. Please correct if theres a fix without removing the skin. Thanks! So basically when I mean bug free..It has to be PERFECT!
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There won't be any one "perfect" you can always expect one or more bugs atleast, as this is windows we are talking about
smabergg!! I consider your rom perfect...OK OK near perfect...lets use Touch X 10.1 as the basis of comparison... lol Alright completely forgot that this is windows mobile we're dealing with...so the purpose of this thread is to extremely narrow down the rom's and be as strict as we can with no room for a little more than minor bugs..so we can all peacfully flash our roms knowing that almost everything will work as expected..hope I'm making myself clear!
P.S. almost forgot..THANKS TO ALL THE CHEFS OUT THERE FOR COOKING THESE AMAZING ROMS, WITH FEATURES THAT AN X1 IS NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO DISPLAY...THANKS FOR YOUR HARDWORK!
I am not a professional user. My little experience with good X1 roms is:
WM 6.1
1. nX1i v1.04 [SuperLiteSpeed]: exceptionally fast and stable ROM even after installation of your staff. Norti provided all needed programs in separate installation. For me, it is a perfect ROM.
2. Jack V3.x
3. touch X 10.1
WM 6.5:
I believe that Agent_47 provides the most stable and fast ROM. For me, the best releases are
V 2.3
FS 2.9
Experio 1.8.5: my favorite
UnOff roms, Christian's roms, and Energy roms are also good but I usually feel them less responsive after installation of my staff. Grab's Barebone rom is also good but I felt that it has some troubles with 3D applications.
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I am not a professional user. My little experience with good X1 roms is:
WM 6.1
1. nX1i v1.04 [SuperLiteSpeed]: exceptionally fast and stable ROM even after installation of your staff. Norti provided all needed programs in separate installation. For me, it is a perfect ROM.
2. Jack V3.x
3. touch X 10.1
WM 6.7:
I believe that Agent_47 provides the most stable and fast ROM. For me, the best releases are
V 2.3
FS 2.9
Experio 1.8.5: my favorite
UnOff roms, Christian's roms, and Energy roms are also good but I usually feel them less responsive after installation of my staff. Grab's Barebone rom is also good but I felt that it has some troubles with 3D applications.
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I agree with you for WM 6.1.
drhussamm said:
I am not a professional user. My little experience with good X1 roms is:
WM 6.1
1. nX1i v1.04 [SuperLiteSpeed]: exceptionally fast and stable ROM even after installation of your staff. Norti provided all needed programs in separate installation. For me, it is a perfect ROM.
2. Jack V3.x
3. touch X 10.1
WM 6.7:
I believe that Agent_47 provides the most stable and fast ROM. For me, the best releases are
V 2.3
FS 2.9
Experio 1.8.5: my favorite
UnOff roms, Christian's roms, and Energy roms are also good but I usually feel them less responsive after installation of my staff. Grab's Barebone rom is also good but I felt that it has some troubles with 3D applications.
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Ah, so it's normal that the phone lags up after you install programs onto the UnOff rom. I posted a question asking others if they had the same problem, but have yet to get a reply. Thanks.
one vote for JackV4. for daily use, it's really bug free and responsive.
Wild Child all the way on 6.5
http://www.wcxxperia-nce.com/index.php
thank you everyone for your feedback..I'll make a list or a poll or something..i'm fairly new at this whole forum thing so bear with me..thanks again!
qweqwe99 said:
So let me do the honours of posting the first ROM :
Touch X 10.1 ULTIMATE X-TREME "FINAL"
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Haven't found the .1 version on thread are the latest version buggy or I can go smooth on .8?
Thank you! Nice post
V3.1 Lite: "Simply the fastest/lightest/most stable WM6.1 you could find"
Ersill said:
Haven't found the .1 version on thread are the latest version buggy or I can go smooth on .8?
Thank you! Nice post
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493848
Here it is... I don't recommend the newer ones yet, bugs still haven't been squashed.
everyone complains about bugs, but do you guys know that the builds which were leaked were not the final? the builds are still being worked on by microsoft so dont expect anything bug-free.
almost every rom wears a different build, meaning different bugs and speed,
and dont complain about the rom becoming slow after installing apps, every single operating system slows down after installing apps, even linux and apple os x...
if your storage drawer is filled with clothes, obviously it would take you longer to find a pair of socks than if it had just 3 items, the same thing applies to any computer device
if you install 32 apps and games to be exact like i do in total you should not have a slow device, but obviously it wont be as fast as when its like first use, mine is never slow and i been installing these since day one on 6.1
if you need anything bug-free, there is always wm 6.1, but as for now, wm6.5 is not yet completed, so expect bugs of some sort
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everyone complains about bugs, but do you guys know that the builds which were leaked were not the final? the builds are still being worked on by microsoft so dont expect anything bug-free.
almost every rom wears a different build, meaning different bugs and speed,
and dont complain about the rom becoming slow after installing apps, every single operating system slows down after installing apps, even linux and apple os x...
if your storage drawer is filled with clothes, obviously it would take you longer to find a pair of socks than if it had just 3 items, the same thing applies to any computer device
if you install 32 apps and games to be exact like i do in total you should not have a slow device, but obviously it wont be as fast as when its like first use, mine is never slow and i been installing these since day one on 6.1
if you need anything bug-free, there is always wm 6.1, but as for now, wm6.5 is not yet completed, so expect bugs of some sort
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I agree. But the response after apps installation is different. ROM like Norti 6.1 nX1i v1.04 [SuperLiteSpeed] shows excellent response after app installation while others show marked slowness. i think there is something different in memory management between different builds. The same happens with different 6.5 builds even if from the same Chef.
Regards
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Haven't found the .1 version on thread are the latest version buggy or I can go smooth on .8?
Thank you! Nice post
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I give my vote to Touch X. The latest versions are indeed buggy, but then again so are most ROMs. But at least Mr Rusch is very quick in providing fixes. For me Touch X is a great balance between speed and eye candy, especially with 10.8 with the Leo icons and animated weather wallpaper
drhussamm
exactly my point, diff build, diff bugs
firestorm_v3.8.053LEO
with: commanager-qilin(fix), NeoS2007_Driverpack_3, valkyrie leo_sms_client_1_1_19193027_00 & Opera_Browser_9_70_35432_0.cab
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one vote for JackV4. for daily use, it's really bug free and responsive.
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+ 1 here
Duttys HD Leo Holy Grail R0
or
Miri WM65 21890 :: Manila 2.5 :: V 19.0
Which of these roms is more stable more responsive and gives a near to hd2 experience?
option 3: the new Topix 2.5 rom has my vote .
And to be more constructive:
Try them both out, because it is often related to the installed programs, and what you feel is important in a good rom. So it really is hard (if not impossible...) to answer your question.
i just want to know about those 2 as they have the best reviews!!
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i just want to know about those 2 as they have the best reviews!!
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Try them both out, in fact I reckon you should give topix a spin too, I reckon its the best Rom i ever installed and i must have tried around 30+ in the last 2 months or so including Dutty and Miri
Alchopop
I would add the Cloudy 1.2 rom to that list too then... Before i tried Cloudy's rom, I worked with Dutty's holy grail for a few months, but it was still a bit sluggish. Cloudy, imo, comes very close to the hd2 rom.
There is not really an answer to this question, because everyone's having different opinions in chosing a rom. The best thing for you would be to try them both, and make your own conclusion which one is "better".
Guys thanks for the answers. The thing is that you guys test all sort of roms so i thought that maybe it will save time. Please all of you if you can elaborate and explain with reasons why you think the rom you have said is the best. Do all the features work or you have to patch them up from here and there?
waiting the thread to be closed.......
+1, please close this thread. This is a very stupid question and like it said there is no answer.
To the OP and based on my limited testing. I tried the Holly Grail a number of months ago and at the time it really was the Holly Grail. It was probably the best and most fully featured Leo rom of the time. I have tried Miris Leo ROM 17 and although it was very good and very well featured, it did hang on me a number of times. As I understand it, I should of carried out a number of tweaks to get the thing working correctly (note to self read the thread). Version 19 is certainly the later of the two and as I understand it features many improvements that resolve bugs, add new features and improve performance. For me my next step was to test Miri's 19 Leo. I think there are still extra steps that need to be performed to get it running 100%, something to do with rilphone.dll I think, but nothing too serious.
Take note MIRI has a number of different versions with different performance implications. As I understand it, the version with HTC messaging can slow performance, but on the other hand features HTC messaging
Hope this helps.
Your asking for users to choose between 2 roms. Some are going to say 1, some 2
Everyone has different opinions. End result may be in favour of one other the other, but you may dsiagree after trying both
Best advice try both and make your own conclusion
Thread closed
p.s. opinionated threads are frowned upon in XDA and are generally closed asap as they create endless long debates
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion and it's based on my experience for a few hours with each ROM, not into scientific facts or long-term testing. Since I'm quite new to these stuff, I may be wrong to several things.
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Hello everyone,
Last week I joined this community in order to upgrade my recently acquired TyTN II phone. I first tried Ahmedfikry's ROM that worked great for 6 days, but after some slowness/hanging issues (which I'm still unsure if it was ROM's fault), made me to try others as well. I've spent whole weekend, trying several cooked ROMs (especially recent ones), in order to find the most appropriate for me & my mobile device and I decided to share my test experience with you.
Hardware used
- HTC TyTN II
Software used
- Daveshaw HardSPL 3.34
- Kais Radio 1.70.19.09
Notes
- Further than removing mini-SD/SIM, I was installing stock ROM & performing hard reset (possibly unnecessary), before each ROM installation in order to avoid keeping configuration from previous ROM.
WM6.1 vs WM6.5
WM6.1 ROMs seem extremely fast & compatible but unfortunately I'm getting addicted to WM6.5 which has several improvements. If you need really stable and fast phone, stick with WM6.1. Otherwise, if you can sacrifice a bit of stability & performance.. for cool features, go for WM6.5. Additionally, it looks like some GPS navigation applications do not really like WM6.5 yet, so you may want to take that as consideration as well. Keep in mind that all ROMs may have their issues so I consider important author's willing to help people in forum.
Tested WM6.1 ROMs
- Shifu V20 M2D 2.0 [21055] [Full]: Fast interface, good applications
- Stylez Black v.5 D3D 101MB Manila 2.6 Theme [21051] [Full]: Fast interface, frequently updated, good applications, good & fast support from Stylez
Tested WM6.5 ROMs
- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23541] [Light]: Fastest WM6.5 ROM I've seen, frequently updated, good support by Ahmedfikry. I only faced some slowness issues at the 7th day but worths another chance (especially since a new build is out)
- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23544] [Light]: Just got released, I'm going to try it soon
- hoatienii's upload - PDAVIET.NET 3.34.721.4 - KAISER CE OS 5.2.21893 [21893]: Few applications (almost stock), but it's kinda laggy at my device
- Staxxtanium V03 [21891]: Nice skin & software, good applications, but it's VERY laggy at my device
- Staxxtanium V03 [23529]: Nice skin & software, good applications, but it's kinda laggy at my device
- Shifu V4.2 - RAM 101 - D3D - M2D [21854] [Full]: Fast interface, good & organized applications. M2D's landscape issue annoys me a bit.
Tested ROMs but not reviewed
- KaiserTouch' 21892, KaiserTouch's 23541 and esperOS 28205 builds installed fine, functioned fine but all of them had white screen instead of home screen. It might be something wrong on my side, as I didn't see others reporting it, so I believe it would unfair to review them yet. If I find the cause, I'll check them again later.
Finally, I'm between Shifu V4.2 & Ahmedfikry's light rom. I will probably try Ahmedfikry's once again, especially since he released a new build today and if problems re-appear, I'll go for Shifu. Android is also something I want to try in future (maybe next weekend). If you have any cooked *fast* and *good* WM6.5 WWE ROMs to suggest, please do!
Special thanks to all Chefs that have spent their valuable time to share their work into this community. If you have any comments, suggestions or even disagree with my opinion.. feel free to post. I didn't make this thread to judge cooked ROMs but mostly to share my opinion, so I'd appreciate if you also do the same.
PS: I like this community and I wonder if I'll start cooking some day as well, since I have some developing skills.
First of all, I will like to thank you for sharing your opinion It's quite interesting to know your personal observations regarding mostly of the roms.
My opinion to you, is that you probably didn't experience the fullness of some of the tested roms.
For example, from your info above you only tested a combination of Hard and radio...having this, probably it affected the perfomance of some roms and your opinion about them. The chefs try these roms for a lot of time and they test radio and hard combinations that most suit their roms.
Maybe you should need more time testing roms and update your thread constantly over the time, if you want to keep it interesting.
Additionally and my final comment, roms are made for different tastes and suits different needs for many people, that's why there are many out there. What I'm trying to say to you, is that what is best for you and it will not be the best for me. You can see in the specific threads of these many roms that many people says the rom is the best for them and for others isn't. Also you will experience it here.
Thanks and good luck
Hence the reason he put this in the post.
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion and it's based on my experience for a few hours with each ROM, not into scientific facts or long-term testing. Since I'm quite new to these stuff, I may be wrong to several things.
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That was pretty cool of you to write this.
I'll definately be following this thread, as I am new to the world of ROM's as well. I've not tried a lot of radios with each ROM, and I've only tried out 3, though none of the ones the OP has tried. Maybe I will give them a shot as well. For me my priorities are a fast phone that I can use for system administration and looks good as well. I am currently running T.I.R. v 10k Angel ROM currently. It has a lot of the features I like, and is fairly responsive, but some of the customisations are not to my taste, and I've had to disable a couple things because of speed constraints.
I look forward to more reports. It does seem no matter what I choose, even the stock HTC ROM, my wifi is a bit buggy, has trouble connecting even when a few feet from the AP, with unobstructed line of sight. Oh well, might fix it when I replace the digitizer in a couple weeks. Phone was well used before I got my hands on it.
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I don't know how much of this is true, but a work colleague who has had years of experience with WiMo phones offered this tidbit:
A lot if the improvements in Windows Mobile 6.5 are HTC's customisations on 6.1. Microsoft and HTC built Windows Mobile 6.5 off the back of HTC's work on UI customisation and other changes. The keyboard in 6.5 is excellent, as is the haptic feedback.
I don't know what a naked 6.5 ROM looks like, as I haven't found one to try yet. All 6.5 ROM's will be slower compared to a 6.1 just because of the system requirements and all the extra fancy stuff 6.5 does.
Thank you all for reading this thread and special thanks to the people that replied. So far, I haven't tried any other ROMs as Ahmedfikry's has kept me very satisfied.
So the latest status based on my experience:
- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23544] [Light]: My mobile phone has been fully functional for the whole week, without even the need to reboot it. I had no problems while exchanging e-mails, using office applications, connecting via mobile internet/WiFi and playing games. I am going to try 23545 that I heard it's quite faster.
I'd love to hear opinions from other people for other ROMs as well. Come on guys, share your opinion. It's a general opinion thread after all. I'd prefer to post positive or negative xopinion about ROMs into a general thread than going to an author's thread and saying "your ROM is slow, this one is fast".
Hi Chefs,
Just an idea.
Been wandering around on this super forum for a while and have tried a lot of ROM's.
What I've seen is that almost all of the Chefs cook a ROM based on a latest build, and then try to get the ROM as fast and stable as possible. Some of the Chefs really done a great job, like Miniterror, Mikenificent, Xannytech and Gregorz. Still, these ROMs are getting quicker, but none of them are really fluid, like for example a iPhone.
Why don't you chefs try to built in a other way. So why don't you start with the fastest and most stable ROM ever, and then one by one try to add the functionality that we are now used, till you see that the ROM starts getting slower.
On my Diamond I've got a ROM that is based on WM6.1, and runs Sense 2.1. This ROM is much faster than the original stock ROM for the Diamond. In speed and functionality this ROM can really compete with the speed of an iPhone.
Why not do the same for the HD? Why not trying WM6.1+Sense 2.1 and add the tools we are used in the latest ROM's? Or perhaps WM6.5+TF3D?
The must be a lot of way to do this, but the goal is to start with the fastest and most stable ROM, and than adding new stuff. Instead of the other way, like almost every Chef is doing on this forum.
If I could build ROM's, I really would have started this, but I don't have the knowledge of doing this.
I Hope a Chef can pick this one up!
SJackal said:
Hi Chefs,
Just an idea.
Been wandering around on this super forum for a while and have tried a lot of ROM's.
What I've seen is that almost all of the Chefs cook a ROM based on a latest build, and then try to get the ROM as fast and stable as possible. Some of the Chefs really done a great job, like Miniterror, Mikenificent, Xannytech and Gregorz. Still, these ROMs are getting quicker, but none of them are really fluid, like for example a iPhone.
Why don't you chefs try to built in a other way. So why don't you start with the fastest and most stable ROM ever, and then one by one try to add the functionality that we are now used, till you see that the ROM starts getting slower.
On my Diamond I've got a ROM that is based on WM6.1, and runs Sense 2.1. This ROM is much faster than the original stock ROM for the Diamond. In speed and functionality this ROM can really compete with the speed of an iPhone.
Why not do the same for the HD? Why not trying WM6.1+Sense 2.1 and add the tools we are used in the latest ROM's? Or perhaps WM6.5+TF3D?
The must be a lot of way to do this, but the goal is to start with the fastest and most stable ROM, and than adding new stuff. Instead of the other way, like almost every Chef is doing on this forum.
If I could build ROM's, I really would have started this, but I don't have the knowledge of doing this.
I Hope a Chef can pick this one up!
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A lot of chefs like to try and use the latest builds and with new builds appearing all the time, the time to do as you wish becomes less. A few chefs have created roms using wm6.1 & manila 2.1 but this is becoming less often as wm6.1 is seen my a lot of people as a dying format especially with wm7 soon being released for mobiles. Also there is compatibility issues with some apps and wm6.1 as most are now designed for wm6.5
there is topix anyway. wm6.1 tweaked to the max
If I could build ROM's, I really would have started this, but i...
What I've seen is that almost all of the Chefs cook a ROM based on a latest build, and then try to get the ROM as fast and stable as possible. Some of the Chefs really done a great job, like Miniterror, Mikenificent, Xannytech and Gregorz. Still, these ROMs are getting quicker, but none of them are really fluid, like for example a iPhone.
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blackstone will never be really fluid, like for example a iPhone because it runs windows mobile 6.1, or even worse, 6.5, which requires more juice than the processor is able to provide.
my guess is that cooks cook roms to there personal taste(i know i do)
and wm6.5 has reached a lvl that it is verry usable for daily use
thats why i think there isnt to much 6.1 cooked anymore
Hi Guys,
Don't get me wrong, I do like the latest builds. As a matter of fact, I always used the latest versions, because I like all the features that has been introduced in WM6.5 and Sense 2.5.
Because I've experienced that the latest ROM's really use a lot of power of the HD, (resulting in unstable performance and fast battery drainage), I was looking for a ROM with Manila that was as fast as the Stock ROM, but had the features of the latest builds.
After a while I concluded that WM6.5 combined with the latest Sense is too heavy to get fluid performance like the stock ROM. (allthough Miniterror's ROM is very good, I'm using his ROM for over a month now!).
That's why I suggested a few options, like WM6.1 with Sense 2.5, or WM6.5 with TF3D2.1 or anything else. Just to get fastest and most fluid ROM.
I found a ROM that perhaps answers my questions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679670
I will try this one and give some feedback.