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I realize that in an Android-centric forum branch, I risk cries of heresy, but looking at the specs for upcoming Windows Phone 7 phones, I'm wondering if it will be possible to port Windows Mobile 7 to the Nexus One.
Not knowing enough about ROM cooking, I am wondering if any devs have opinions on the feasibility of this.
I am NOT interested in opinions about Windows Mobile 7 by itself, or as compared to any other platform, Android or otherwise, so please don't bother posting "b-b-but WinMo sucks", etc.
Thanks in advance!
maxawesome said:
I realize that in an Android-centric forum branch, I risk cries of heresy, but looking at the specs for upcoming Windows Phone 7 phones, I'm wondering if it will be possible to port Windows Mobile 7 to the Nexus One.
Not knowing enough about ROM cooking, I am wondering if any devs have opinions on the feasibility of this.
I am NOT interested in opinions about Windows Mobile 7 by itself, or as compared to any other platform, Android or otherwise, so please don't bother posting "b-b-but WinMo sucks", etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Almost impossible since WP7 isn't open source.
(And it's not finished yet anyway.)
Also, Windows Mobile 7 =/= Windows Phone 7
My understanding is that Windows Phone 7 is to the WinMo platform what Centrino is to Intel-based notebooks, i.e. a set of required hardware to guarantee a certain experience.
Windows Mobile 7 (as in the OS itself) has been ported to the HTC HD2, right?
I just wondered if the same might not be possible now that the WinMo 7 SDK is out (not in final form, I know, but still...)??
winmo 7 won't run on hd2
timothydonohue said:
winmo 7 won't run on hd2
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Ok, in that case, what about dual-booting an Android phone to run WinMo 6.5?
I've seen articles on some bootloader that will let you dual boot WinMo 6.5 and Android from a WinMo phone. Is it possible to do the same on an Android handset?
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Ok, in that case, what about dual-booting an Android phone to run WinMo 6.5?
I've seen articles on some bootloader that will let you dual boot WinMo 6.5 and Android from a WinMo phone. Is it possible to do the same on an Android handset?
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It's a hell of a lot easier to port Android to a WinMo phone due to the fact that it's open source (hell, it's even been ported to iphone).
Getting any version of WinMo ported to Android would probably be possible, but incredibly difficult.
Ah, good point I hadn't thought of. I guess I just figured that even though WinMo isn't open source, enough of the hardware is common between devices these days so that drivers baked into WinMo would just work. Showing my novice, obviously.
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.
I'm sure that nobody will bother:
1) It's going to prove VERY complicated, to say the least. Without "inside job" with the drivers, just plain impossible.
2) It's useless. If you're after Windows Phone 7 phones - just go and buy yourself one. Installing Android on it will be much easier than the other way around, and most probably it was already done.
Because of both of the points, it won't happen. There are reasonable challenges, and there are oh-so-stupid ones. And people mostly have lives. So if I were you, I wouldn't hold on to the hope, and would just go out and buy WinPhone 7.
Specifically for point 1: Microsoft certifies all the HW that is licensed to work with their OS, and all the drivers are made ONLY for this HW, and not for anything else. VERY CPU- and board-specific. Seeing that you have a Samsung phone, which doesn't have this HW or anything like it, I'd say that the chances of hell freezing over are higher than your phone getting Win7 port. Well, at least until your specific CPU (which happens, unlike most other SGS2 ones, to be of the "right" brand for Win7 phones) and phone motherboard (which might never become a base for Win7 phone) gets certified and has drivers done for it - happens only if exactly the same base will be used for Win7 phone - and Microsoft outsourcing them. I'd bet my money on hell freezing over
Could anyone here ever get windows ce or windows mobile working on a chumby?
Just wondering. I love my chumby one but it would be incredible if we could get windows mobile or win ce to work on it. Makes me wish I knew how to code n such. I don't know how difficult it is to port things to devices they don't belong on but if someone would at least look into it and let me know that'd be awesome. So... thanks!
Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Windows CE (and Windows Mobile subsequently) are currently built with kernels consisting of two parts, a device agnostic part, and a device-dependent part which needs to be tailored specifically to the device WinCE will run on. In addition, you'd need a new WinCE compatible bootloader, WinCE drivers, etc. To the best of my knowledge, Windows CE or Windows Mobile have never been ported to devices they did not ship on, which makes sense considering how WinCE is closed source and very device-dependent.
Alright then, good enough answer for me, lol. Thank you.
is there a way to port / recompile OpenOffice for Android?
There are a lot of good and great applications that are linux native out there.
I'm rather surprised we don't see more of those software like OpenOffice / FireFox / Thunderbird ported over for Android.
i was soooo looking forward to run those on my phone.
i know some groups are already working on a mobile version of firefox (Fennec), but there's no news about Thunderbird, and according to some stuff i read on the OpenOffice forum they don't seem very eager to port it to Android, as it took them a while to port it to MAC OS.
yet it's still a java based app... oh well...
at the moment i'm using "Docs To Go", not ideal, but it does for now, until OpenOffice comes aboard.
I've been using Docs To Go since my PalmOS days, is not bad, but is not great either.
docs to go seem to have worsen from palm to winmo to android. the android version is all flashy with smooth scrolling, pinch zoom etc but actual functionality is lacking. for eg; in the spreadsheet - editing is cumbersome, changing worksheets need few presses.
still looking for a good office suite/spreadsheet for android.
A lot of software like that is not written to run on low-powered systems (which an android phone clearly is compared to todays PCs) and Android lacks a lot of functionality that is present in complete linux kernels and so rewriting would take a major effort and few people would benefit from an open-office port (and even if, they would be minor since nobody will actually do a lot of office work on their phone).
AllGamer said:
is there a way to port / recompile OpenOffice for Android?
There are a lot of good and great applications that are linux native out there.
I'm rather surprised we don't see more of those software like OpenOffice / FireFox / Thunderbird ported over for Android.
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Unfortunately, Android is to Linux as Windows Mobile is to Windows 7. They're related, but not strictly intercompatible.
Android only really uses the Linux kernel. Practically none of the stuff that makes Linux recognisable as Linux to end-users. For Open Offic, Firefox etc to work as a simple port, you would need a whole bunch of extra stuff in Android that just isn't there. Of course, that's not stopping anyone from porting those things, but Android with X11, GTK and Gnome wouldn't really be Android anymore, would it?
Of course, I feel your pain.. I just want a simple text editor that can open and save .txt files, but I can't find one! Bah!
unfnknblvbl said:
Unfortunately, Android is to Linux as Windows Mobile is to Windows 7. They're related, but not strictly intercompatible.
Android only really uses the Linux kernel. Practically none of the stuff that makes Linux recognisable as Linux to end-users. For Open Offic, Firefox etc to work as a simple port, you would need a whole bunch of extra stuff in Android that just isn't there. Of course, that's not stopping anyone from porting those things, but Android with X11, GTK and Gnome wouldn't really be Android anymore, would it?
Of course, I feel your pain.. I just want a simple text editor that can open and save .txt files, but I can't find one! Bah!
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Linux IS only really the kernel.
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Linux IS only really the kernel.
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Still, in this context it clearly refers to any desktop linux distribution. And that comprising isn't far off.
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It's been done
AndrOpen Office
Download: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.andropenoffice
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Is there any cooked windows mobile ROM for this phone, i9000?
does anyone know if Samsung will release ROMs for Galaxy with WM7?
This doesn't make any sense. Why would on install wm on the GS? Just get an HD2 or wait for a WM7 device.
Lol this is too funny.
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The problem is you are not likely to find support for anyone doing this for 2 main reasons.
1) Most people prefer Android.
2) It would be illegal, Windows Mobile has a licencing fee that was not paid for with your phone. (You see Android ports on WM phones because Android is free, it isn't allowed the other way around)
So you should not maintain any hope that it will never happen.
Samsung has other phones in the works that will support Windows mobile. They've just announced a blackberry styled windows mobile at the commincaAsia conference this year.
I highly doubt their windows mobile line will come any where close to what their Galaxy (Android) family.
h_bekhit said:
Is there any cooked windows mobile ROM for this phone, i9000?
does anyone know if Samsung will release ROMs for Galaxy with WM7?
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Cooked windows mobile ROM for Galaxy S i9000 will be performed in the future.
Can't believe that people still wants Windows mobile, I'm currently stuck with windows mobile and i get frustrated every day. Waiting for my Galaxy S to arrive =)
Like to microsoft use the the galaxy s as a test device for wm7?
Like how they are doing with the i8910 Omnia HD.
I think it would be interesting to see how it performs with the hardware in the SGS. I do miss some of me apps on me Touch hd which is why I've kept it, tomtom for 1 and its easier to get flash support (cant wait for Froyo).
Also easier to change the system setting such as the bluetooth's minimum bitpool coz my sgs sounds rubbish in the car.
Wait for WM for SGS????
Wait for WM for SGS???? Don't hold your breath... LOL
(Running WM in SGS is like putting a "fiat punto" engine in a ferrari...)
Why would someone want something as outdated as WM? This OS is dead. WM7 is years behind Android...
I've been using WM for the last 7 years. My last WM phone was a Omnia 2 - The phone is great but I regret so much investing money in a device which OS is no longer supported by Microsoft... My only hope is Android for my WM phone.
Why you ask ? For the fun of it, of course !
Of course WM is outdated, but it's be "fun" to play with it on the Galaxy S, that's all ^^
Prot windows mobile 7 on i9000
Hi. I am makeing a new open boot loader for galaxy. Ill upload a source soon
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This should be interesting!
Can WinMo actually be ported to other devices? I read somewhere that this is next to impossible since WinMo is closed.
Im guessing youre not spamming. Since youre registered since 2007.
I wonder how to make all the drivers? Although I've heard rumors that a SGS similiar device is coming for win mo. 7 so those could be used I guess.
*sigh* Closed source probably isn't a problem. If anything, it can actually be a good thing sometimes. It only generally benefits those who want to modify the core of a system (because it isn't extendible enough), or security patches.
For instance, even on Windows, IFS allows EXT3/EXT4 drivers to be developed without Windows source code, and Microsoft have actually evolved past Linux in regards to backwards compatibility (you don't need to recompile their modules every kernel release).
What's important is that the OS is designed for ARM, and their driver development SDK is comprehensive enough. So is it?
Right now im just makeing open bootloader to make it actually run. Else for drivers and all we need more developers. And this will take time
As i have gone through loader can be run since i have access to read n write on nand.
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Where is it? I can't wait any more....
i would rather NOT run WM in my SGS
it'll defeat the whole purpose of getting the SGS
However if we can do Dual Boot, then it'll be intersting to play around with WM7 on the SGS
Since i have many programs that i still can't find replacement for in Android
it'll be handy to be able to Dual Boot to WM to run the old software
I really love Windows Mobile OS but my uncle gave me a Milestone for my birthday! I wonder that could anyone have an idea to set up Windows Mobile OS on my Milestone. I think this is a best combination! Maybe I'm so silly but I'm still hoping.
Waiting for news!!!
This would be nearly impossible if not impossible because of the locked bootloader no custom kernel can be loaded to run windows mobile
dangkhoa02106 said:
I really love Windows Mobile OS but my uncle gave me a Milestone for my birthday! I wonder that could anyone have an idea to set up Windows Mobile OS on my Milestone. I think this is a best combination! Maybe I'm so silly but I'm still hoping.
Waiting for news!!!
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The nearest approach for windows is "Android windows 7" from android market.
You can use skin which look just like winmo 7 home screen.It's somewhere here.Search forums...
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Thanks for all your helps and advice ! Maybe I will use the Windows 7 skin but I still hoping for a complete setup of Win mobile on my device . As you known, many device which use Windows mobile can use Android as the second OS, so why's the device that use Android can't use Windows mobile? The hardware configuration of Milestone is good enough to run Windows mobile 6.5 or maybe above (like Win 7). Why don't Motorola give an unlock bootloader on this device? It will a big problem for many modders in the world
PS: Sorry if my English is so bad.
dangkhoa02106 said:
Thanks for all your helps and advice ! Maybe I will use the Windows 7 skin but I still hoping for a complete setup of Win mobile on my device . As you known, many device which use Windows mobile can use Android as the second OS, so why's the device that use Android can't use Windows mobile? The hardware configuration of Milestone is good enough to run Windows mobile 6.5 or maybe above (like Win 7). Why don't Motorola give an unlock bootloader on this device? It will a big problem for many modders in the world
PS: Sorry if my English is so bad.
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I have a solution. You should sell the MS for somebody. According to you buy new smartphone that it is supported by WM. Recommending HTC HD 2 or 7
Android is open source so it can be ported to other devices.
WM/WP7 is not open source and can't be ported to other devices that shipped with a different OS i.e. Android. Even if you could it would be illegal to so do.
Android is so much better than WM/WP7 that you must be on some good w&&d if you think otherwise =P Learn to love Android and flash the good ROMs that people have made for Milestone, or sell your phone to someone who can appreciate it and get something that fits you "needs" better.
FYI a bit of searching on XDA would have answered this question without wasting time.