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Program Memory Gradually decreasing with Faria's AKU 3.2 ROM

Since the 'Report Real Problems' thread about Faria's AKU 3.2 ROM has just about stopped making any sense I thought I would start a new one specifically regarding this memory 'leak' issue.
I have a G3 QTEK 9100, I have installed Faria's 8MB AKU 3.2 ROM. I initially had the wake-up issues but I think I have worked around these. The issue I am seeing is the Program Memory gradually decreasing. After a soft-reset the phone shows about 19MB of free Program Memory. Without doing anything other than answer phone calls it will decrease to about 12MB after a day. After 2-days it goes to about 8Mb and now the 3rd day (in the morning) it tells me 7.4MB.
I am not loading any applications what so ever, just answering the phone. It is sat in a cradle connected via USB to my PC so all it is running is ActiveSync. I have two applications installed - TomTom 6 and MS PocketStreets 2006, neither of which have been started since it was soft reset 3-days ago.
Can anyone explain this memory leakage
Oh, there we go again - 7.3MB
Thanks
Andy

Hi,
I basically have the same problems as described above. Using a G3 HTC Wizard with the 12mb Rom RC1. It goes down constantly and even if I use the Free_ram application it doesnt manage to free it all again. Apart from that I am still experiencing a severe Battery drainage. I have done a few tests and I am guessing this has to do with the Radio Rom. As soon as I make a call for lets say 2 Minutes the battery droppes aprox 2%. Since I use push-email and am always online with GPRS this means a huge drainage over the day. I will run a few more tests and disable push email and try not to make any calls and see if this still occurs.

Good, sort of, at least it's not just me......
It is now 13:20 UK time and if I am to believe it, it reckons now only 5.9MB of program memory is free. It is now showing signs of slowing down, refreshing the screen is taking time, going to Start Settings and then hitting the close 'X' is now pausing
I am going to restrain myself from soft-resetting it until it comes to some sort of conculsion...........
Andy

I think I am going to have to soft reset it now, its getting just too unresponsive
Storage
Total: 47.46MB
In Use: 13.64MB
Free: 33.83MB
Program
Total: 44.01MB
In Use: 39.40MB
Free: 4.61MB
I have made 2 calls and received 2 since I last posted and I am now down to 4.6MB.
Does anyone think a re-flash or a hard-reset is likely to fix anything? As I said I only have TomTom6 and MS Pocket Streets 2006 installed in addition to the stuff included with the extended ROM from Faria?
Thanks
Andy

My wizard rebooted itself yesterday morning and so it has been running for about 36 hours. I have 12.8 Mb program memory and it rarely gets below 11Mb. When I first installed Faria's ROM I used the 12 Mb version. I thought that I might be seeing a memory leak because I did get down to as low on RAM as you are now seeing and so I installed the 8 Mb version and tracked it for a few days. It has never been as bad as what you are seeing since I installed the 8 Mb version although I don't think whether you use the 8 or 12 Mb version makes any difference. Perhaps a hard reset will help or maybe you will just end up reinstalling all your apps.
Kirby
Just a few other things:
I take 5 to 20 calls a day and run Pocketweather and might also jump out on the web using Netfront

I have just hard-reset the device and re-installed TomTom6, Pocket Streets 2006 & Voice Command 1.6. Our CA Admin guy is going to moan at me again for re-requesting a Certificate Ah well......
I'll see how this goes......
Andy

ADB100 said:
I have just hard-reset the device and re-installed TomTom6, Pocket Streets 2006 & Voice Command 1.6. Our CA Admin guy is going to moan at me again for re-requesting a Certificate Ah well......
I'll see how this goes......
Andy
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Good luck...let us know the results.
Kirby

how is it after hard reset?

My G4 with 12MB ROM is ok
... run TomTom6, Exchange push email, Today agenda plug-in, bluetooth handsfree and make/take 20+ calls a day
It never seems to go below 10MB
I will see if I can 'make' it.

dim4x4 said:
how is it after hard reset?
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I was working away today and I had to soft-reset the Wizard about 9:00 this morning as the phone just couldn't get a signal. I have used TomTom & made and received several phone calls and it is now telling me I have 13.2MB program memory free (ActiveSync is loaded)
So it is still behaving as before.....
I think I might install the 12MB version and see if this does the same thing - I assume it will? Failing that I think the RISidoro 2.6 ROM is going to have to go back on I really don't want to do this as I like the speed of this ROM (obviously not when the memory drains away and its as slow as a dog though..) and the newer features of AKU 3.2.
Andy

ADB100 said:
I was working away today and I had to soft-reset the Wizard about 9:00 this morning as the phone just couldn't get a signal. I have used TomTom & made and received several phone calls and it is now telling me I have 13.2MB program memory free (ActiveSync is loaded)
So it is still behaving as before.....
I think I might install the 12MB version and see if this does the same thing - I assume it will? Failing that I think the RISidoro 2.6 ROM is going to have to go back on I really don't want to do this as I like the speed of this ROM (obviously not when the memory drains away and its as slow as a dog though..) and the newer features of AKU 3.2.
Andy
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one of latest activesyc version has a major memory leak.

pencilcase said:
Hi,
I basically have the same problems as described above. Using a G3 HTC Wizard with the 12mb Rom RC1. It goes down constantly and even if I use the Free_ram application it doesnt manage to free it all again. Apart from that I am still experiencing a severe Battery drainage. I have done a few tests and I am guessing this has to do with the Radio Rom. As soon as I make a call for lets say 2 Minutes the battery droppes aprox 2%. Since I use push-email and am always online with GPRS this means a huge drainage over the day. I will run a few more tests and disable push email and try not to make any calls and see if this still occurs.
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Pencilcase - do you have the Wizard connected to a PC for long periods? I am trying to see whether it might just be the fact that it is connected to my PC for the majority of the time - sat in a cradle with ActiveSync running continuously.
Do many people leave their Wizard connected to a PC (with ActiveSync running) for most of the day?
Andy

faria said:
one of latest activesyc version has a major memory leak.
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Hi Faria - do you know if the ActiveSync version included in your AKU 3.2 ROM has this issue?
I am getting the feeling this might be the case...
ActiveSync on my PC is version 4.2 but I assume this won't affect the memory leak on the Wizard?
Andy

ADB100 said:
Hi Faria - do you know if the ActiveSync version included in your AKU 3.2 ROM has this issue?
I am getting the feeling this might be the case...
ActiveSync on my PC is version 4.2 but I assume this won't affect the memory leak on the Wizard?
Andy
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This is a very good question. I run version 4.5 beta on my PC but can't find anywhere on the Activesync on the phone where it would tell you what version it is.
Kirby

faria said:
one of latest activesyc version has a major memory leak.
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you mean the active sync client within Windows Mobile?

vseehua said:
you mean the active sync client within Windows Mobile?
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Thats my guess wonder which one it is?
Kirby

Then i shall try disabling Active Sync client within my Wizard to see how it goes...

rkwhyte2 said:
My wizard rebooted itself yesterday morning and so it has been running for about 36 hours. I have 12.8 Mb program memory and it rarely gets below 11Mb. When I first installed Faria's ROM I used the 12 Mb version. I thought that I might be seeing a memory leak because I did get down to as low on RAM as you are now seeing and so I installed the 8 Mb version and tracked it for a few days. It has never been as bad as what you are seeing since I installed the 8 Mb version although I don't think whether you use the 8 or 12 Mb version makes any difference. Perhaps a hard reset will help or maybe you will just end up reinstalling all your apps.
Kirby
Just a few other things:
I take 5 to 20 calls a day and run Pocketweather and might also jump out on the web using Netfront
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I haven't had it dip below 11 when idle either with the 8mb but for the short time I had the 12mb installed I did see it go to 8. I think the radio may be the cause I have been having problems with it. I may try to install a different radio

peraltah said:
I haven't had it dip below 11 when idle either with the 8mb but for the short time I had the 12mb installed I did see it go to 8. I think the radio may be the cause I have been having problems with it. I may try to install a different radio
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I know that there has been some discussion about the radio. Let us know what you come up with.
Kirby

I have not connected the Wizard to my PC for a day and guess what? the free program memory has stayed constant at around 9.3MB.....
Can anyone else confirm leaving your Wizard connected to a PC with ActiveSync running causes the free program memory to gradually decrease?
I am running Faria's AKU 3.2 8MB ROM and English ActiveSync 4.2 on my PC.
Thanks
Andy

WM5 AKU 3.3 ROM memory leak issue

I love that ROM but unfortuntely the memory leak is severe for me - just want to know how many people are experiencing that issue??
How much free RAM do u have after a soft reset and how much after running for 1 day?
I have around 17MB after reset (with not much more than the built in apps - just GPRS Monitor and SIMName running additionally) but that drops to less than 10MB within a day or even a few hours of usage!!

17MB free after soft reset; down to about 12MB after a day.
No good for me, with Voice Command and emoze taking over 3MB. My minimum target is 15MB free and stable with both of those loaded, so for the moment I've switched back to a previous Molski ROM.

just made a test: if I leave my Wizard powered on (prevent standby) the RAM drops around 3MB per hour without even touching the device...
[EDIT] have to correct it - running for 1h now and it went down from 17 to 12MB - so 5MB per h... [/EDIT]

new finding: if I take out my miniSD card I get another 4-5MB!! now I have 22 after soft reset - will see whether it still drops so fast...
I remember to have read something about storage cards taking up RAM but forgot what - does it depend on the card/the formatting options etc.??
However, it still doesn't solve the leaking problem... :-(

DoctorT said:
new finding: if I take out my miniSD card I get another 4-5MB!! now I have 22 after soft reset - will see whether it still drops so fast...
I remember to have read something about storage cards taking up RAM but forgot what - does it depend on the card/the formatting options etc.??
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I believe so... we should be waiting for an expert s advice before deleting any reg keys or reformat our SD cards...

Odd, I have no mem issues at all
with everything in the rom, plus voice command 1.6 and remote display, I have 15 meg free. And it stays that way. Have not reset my phone in two days. Cingular 8125 G4 device. And yes, I have an SD card as well.

i would say that its stable with me too, dont have that much running, i dont know some of them like elatepushservice, sapsettings, but with 19 processes in task manager, stay around 14 mbs mostly, it seems to drop low sometime with browsing texting but goes back to 14 or more... i might be wrong here but could it be the installation procedure, i followed dr p method, then added molskis 3.0 then the 3.3... i am still figuring out stuff, mostly a reader than a poster...

I woke up this morning w/ only 2MB!
I have a G3 8125 and here's my install:
3.3 v1 installed on top of the Cingular 2.25.11 IPL/SPL
Upgraded TodayAgenda to v0.9.22 using the install, uninstall, re-install method
Upgraded to BatteryStatusExt.1.04.beta2
Installed DaylightSavings.cab
Usage:
Yesterday, my friend accidentally ran the UK_Jersey_Telecom auto-config
I was trying to set up MMS for Fido (still doesn't work but I no longer receive error messages either)
Voice Dialing
Other Symptoms:
I've also noticed that my date keeps on going haywire. keeps on going 18h 20mins ahead.
I have verified that no other programs are running in the background but on occasion when I check, I see ActiveSync (I use ActiveSync 4.2).
Might try V2 on Tmobile 2.26 when I get the time and see how goes.

Tsuioku said:
I woke up this morning w/ only 2MB!
I have a G3 8125 and here's my install:
3.3 v1 installed on top of the Cingular 2.25.11 IPL/SPL
Upgraded TodayAgenda to v0.9.22 using the install, uninstall, re-install method
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Remove TodayAgenda.
On my Wizard, using the 3.3 ROM, TodayAgenda (both version 0.9.20 and 0.9.22) loose appx. 1.5MB RAM per hour.
Without TodayAgenda I see no memory loss at all.

andersh said:
Remove TodayAgenda.
On my Wizard, using the 3.3 ROM, TodayAgenda (both version 0.9.20 and 0.9.22) loose appx. 1.5MB RAM per hour.
Without TodayAgenda I see no memory loss at all.
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Just upgraded to V2 (6MB ver) and memory availability seems a lot better. Running for two days and only lost 5MB (which is much better than losing 15MB in 12hrs). The combination of embedded TodayAgenda upgraded to 9.22 may have been the culprit. I currently have V2 with 9.22 installed and it seems quite stable.
The current memory loss seems to be caused by certain programs/functions not releasing memory when closed/disabled. I still notice ActiveSync running in the background out of the blue. I was just playing with wifi and noted a 1.5mb drop in memory when enabling but it does not return after disabling. I will update this post as I see more possible causes.

For those who installed SPB PocketPlus: for me most probably SPB PocketPlus caused a leak - I just found out with the WM6 ROM, so might be the same with AKU3.3! I also had a leak with WM6 before (although not as serious as on AKU3.3) and now with the same config as before except PocketPlus I don't experience it anymore!!
Regarding the large mount of RAM taken by the storage card (I know it's not a leak, but anyways): this did the trick on WM6 (before took 4MB, now 0.2MB), so might be the same on AKU3.3:
change the FATFS cache size back to 0 (most tweaks change that, but anyway I didn't realize a slow down of the device after changing it back to that factory default):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\StorageManager\FATFS]
"CacheSize"=dword:00000000

Tsuioku said:
The combination of embedded TodayAgenda upgraded to 9.22 may have been the culprit. I currently have 9.22 installed and it seems quite stable.
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I noticed a huge memory leak in TodayAgenda running:
a) 3.3 beta ROM with embedded 0.9.20
b) 3.3 beta ROM with upgrade to 0.9.22
c) WM6 beta (both the clean version and pdaviet) with 0.9.22
So if you're not seeing a memory leak, my guess is that the memory leak is depending on a specific configuration option inside TodayAgenda.

I think I have a reverse memory leak....lol mine went from @ start 3.34 to 20.57 MB after 1-2 hrs....
Seriously though, just wanted to chime in and say I don't have any issues....before this ROM I was running Crossbow for a little bit and before that I was using a custom home brew...
Applications Installed:
Simbsoft Volleyball
vijay555 VJSlippyPalm
PalmThreadedSMS
Resco Registry Add-in
Resco FTP Add-in
Ilium Software eWallet
Dr.Shultz Smart Dial+Eten skin RUS
TomTom Navigator 6
Spb Backup
Meschle calendar month view tweak
Resco Explorer
Chi-Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD-Plugin

andersh said:
I noticed a huge memory leak in TodayAgenda running:
a) 3.3 beta ROM with embedded 0.9.20
b) 3.3 beta ROM with upgrade to 0.9.22
c) WM6 beta (both the clean version and pdaviet) with 0.9.22
So if you're not seeing a memory leak, my guess is that the memory leak is depending on a specific configuration option inside TodayAgenda.
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Oops... skipped a thought there.. I meant to say V2 with 9.22 installed. There's still some leak but I wouldn't blame it completely on TodayAgenda yet. The leak is lower now and less significant with extra ram being available in V2. I find certain programs/functions not releasing RAM when closed/disabled to be a bigger issue (ie. enabling then disabling Wifi, voice dialing etc)
@lvlolvlo: That sounds about right. Even though it appears as if the phone is done loading, there are still some processes running in the background. Wait a few minutes for the processes to release the ram and you'll see a big jump.

how about download the memoryleak cab and install it

paypalbid said:
how about download the memoryleak cab and install it
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Where can I find this cab? Is it designed for TodayAgenda? I tried doing a search and skimmed through some threads from the last couple of months and didn't see anything. From what I have read, most people are pointing at ActiveSync (I am running 4.5 Beta at home) or TodayAgenda.
On avg, I need to reset my phone every 5 days or so. While this is not a huge issue, I'm curious as to what may be causing it.

What you guys can also try doing is getting SK Tools and using the free up ram feature on there. i have that on my phone even thou i hover around 20 mbs with wisbar, ilauncher, and pocket breeze on there and also rltoday. It'll get me back like 3 mbs when i do that. but i think it would really help you guys.

TomTom 6 and Xda IIi hangs all the time!

About 2 weeks of testing and still frustrated. I dont get TomTom 6 and Xda IIi to work fine. Everything works fine, installation, gps connection, poi an so on. The BIG problem is while i´m driving. Suddenly after for ex 3 min, 10 min, 28 min or 55 min the TomTom hangs. Then it works again after a soft reset and then it hangs and so on...
I´ve tried change ROM on the XdaIIi, tried TomTom 5 but the problem is still there.
I Use GPS Globalsat BT-338, Xda IIi ROM ver 1.11.00 WWE, SD card 1GB Kingston x50 and TomTom 6 (ver 6.030).
Any proposal? I´ve read some suggest faster SD card?

Works fine on mine, my SD card is a 4Gb 150x one. It may be another piece of software you have installed that is causing the issue. If you can back it all up I would test it on a clean install without the o2 front end ie corporate install but it may be your card.

i´ll try a faster XD.

I had troubles till I gained a disk by a Gentleman called Plasma from another place I cleared out the previous incantations and installed his works like a dream no problems even picks up my shortcut knowledge very quickly (I used to be a Transport Manager and am one of those horrible people with a map in my head for major routes) I use it mainly for the last couple of miles or the one or two places I don't know but mainly for the POI i.e. the speed camera's(I may be an old git but I like to travel reasonably fast)

3 possibilities I can think of:
1.) If this is a fairly recent install of TomTom 6 it might just not happen to like the particular SDcard you are using for the maps - I've heard some people find much faster cards give fewer/no crashes.
2.) Having too many POI files selected to display. Mine goes all unstable if I have more than about 25 different ones ticked to display on the map.
3.) sometimes the TomTom cfg gets corrupted, 'losing' my home locations and I am unable to set it...it gets tetchy & sometimes crashes out. The answer is to delete TomTom Navigator.cfg in the Navigator folder in Programs - TomTom will re-create a fresh one when you start and you go through the setups again, but hopefully without it crashing.
hope these are of some help
Joe

I had the same problem.
Changed the SD card to: "Transcend 2GB" and TomTom6 works perfectly on 2020i

Seems like Xda IIi freeze no matter how fast the SD is (with all tomtom version) if using SD and SIM card plugged in.
Change to MMC or take off SIM card then no more system hang.

Now I´ve test with SD card Extreme III. The problem i still there.
I know a few places where it hangs every time i drive past. Exactly the same position at the map. Very strange.
I deleted all pois, same **** again.

a lack of GPS signal can cause a map to "Hang" / "lock Up" and favorites for this are the Bluetooth GPS units

TT7 speed

i am using tt7 with the western european map.
i find the speed very low.
when i want to input an adres i have to wait for up to 30 seconds before ik get a list with cities. if i start to enter a city sooner, tt7 does not show any cities.
i tried to plan a route from utrecht (netherlands) to wildschonau (austria) this took a couple of minutes before i had a route. maybe a minute or five.
in my opinion this is really slow.
does anyone have another experience, or could people try to create the same route and report speeds?
if there are no problems, how can i improve the tt7 speed?

tom tom runs fine for me.
Are all your apps closed when you run tomtom?
Try reseting yout device and run tomtom straight away.

Hello,
Just FYI,
I have no problems with speed allthough I use Benelux map.
about 70mb? againts 1gb? or something.

the slowness is not only in calculating.
during calculations you can see the map. the drawing of the map takes a long time. it seems as if the diamond is working realy hard to calculate and does not have time for anything else.
i still had the same problem after reflashing the rom.

maybe i found my own answer.
I defragmented the internal memory by copying the content to my pc.
then you delete the memory card and copy everything back.
now tomtom seems fine.
i did have a small problem when i copied everything back. i got a "intern geheugen" directory wioth al my files. i deleted the normal directory and the 2 disappeared. if not, use total commander

Suggestion on ROM?

I unlocked and flashed to WM 6.1 ROM on my Treo 750. I'm finding that I have next to nothing on device memory lately and only have 2 programs running on the device itself which aren't terribly large, everything else is on the SD. Memory is down really, really low which causes the device to run slow and even lock up. Can someone suggest either another ROM to try which will give me a little more free device memory or any other methods to free up more memory?