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Hello,
since I've installed the last HTC ROM, I have a big problem : all my I/O accesses to the SDHC card are very very slow...
If I copy a file from my PC to the SDHC card, the speed is fine.
But if, for exemple, I launch a CAB file on the SDHC card, the installation of the CAB file is very very slow.
Does anyone else have this problem ?
I have the opposite.... when I'm copying a file from my PC to my phone (for example 2gigs of movies) it takes nearly an hour. When the card is connected directly to my PC it takes about 5-10mins... I don't have any problems on the device as far as I can tell...
I have same kind of problems. When I put my SDHC away, everything works fine. My SDHC is a 4 Go and it worked OK before I updated. Now, it happend that my device slows down or freeze during long seconds. What is going on ?
eXceed said:
I have the opposite.... when I'm copying a file from my PC to my phone (for example 2gigs of movies) it takes nearly an hour. When the card is connected directly to my PC it takes about 5-10mins... I don't have any problems on the device as far as I can tell...
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That's because the Titan is USB 1.1 so you need to insert the card into the PC directly for optimal data transfer rates.
No issue with copying to my 8gb SDHC. From the PC I am connected to a USB 2.0 hub. Launching Cabs from the card works just fine as well.
I have no ISSUE!!!
illuminarok said:
That's because the Titan is USB 1.1 so you need to insert the card into the PC directly for optimal data transfer rates.
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I agree the fastest option is to transfer large files using the USB 2.0 Hi speed card reader (assuming one came with the card). The TyTN II is a USB 2.0 Full Speed device which doesn't offer the same performance as USB 2.0 Hi speed but thats not the reason for the especially slow performance. There are several threads about this issue including here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350347
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354629
I've just upgraded my TyTN IIs firmware using HTC eClub (upgrading my sig here next) and transfers using Activesync seem just as slow as they've always been. Perhaps next Microsoft can upgrade Activesync/WMDC to reduce that bottleneck. They really must try harder WRT Activesync IMO.
vertpoulpe said:
I have same kind of problems. When I put my SDHC away, everything works fine. My SDHC is a 4 Go and it worked OK before I updated. Now, it happend that my device slows down or freeze during long seconds. What is going on ?
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I have exactly the same issue : my device freezes all the time, for about 10-20 seconds, and sometimes it does also slow down....
I should make a new specific post for that.
I think it can be linked with the RADIO rom... But i am not sure... My provider is ORANGE France... Does it have something to do ?
My provider is also Orange France.
But I've found out what the problem was : Quick Menu.
Since I removed it, the Kaiser does not freeze anymore. I talk about that in another specific thread.
how is it possible that copying files to sd card over wifi or usb is much more slower than copying to memory of phone. and how to fix it?
because wifi transfer speeds aren't speedy at all since it's very similar to direct downloading off 3g/hsdpa and usb transfers through activesync is nothing compared to the blazing speeds of copying files from a card reader
i know that card reaader is fast but i asked why is coping files to main memory faster than copying to sd card over wifi. because when i download to mainmemory the speed is 250kB and when i download to sd card the speed is 30kB.i want to know why is it so?thx
I noticed this today when trying to send some large files to my SD card. Almost made me feel like the phone is not USB 2. It was going to take several hours but once I yanked the memory card out and put it in my pc it only took a couple of minutes. Good question.
Go for USB and Softick Card Export for Windows Mobile for file operations.
raiisak said:
Go for USB and Softick Card Export for Windows Mobile for file operations.
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This seems like WM5Storage with a UI make over. Looks like its for Windows Mobile 2003 2005 and 2006... probably a typo on 2005 and 2006. Anyone have them both and can compare speeds?
WM5Storage looks a bit lighter, cab is less than 50 kb... I have the cab attached if you want to check it out! It was working on my last flash (Duttys Hybrid WM 6.1), i haven't installed it yet on this one.
Slow for me too
I thought I was having a real slow copy this morning using USB cable to copy to micro-sd in phone. For camparison, I was copying a little under 4gb of music files to the 8gb micro-sd card and it took like 2 hrs. I would have popped it into the memory card reader on the PC, but for some reason either the reader or the PC (vista 64bit) does not like the 8gb SDHC card.
Mine copys pretty fast if you install du meter I think it will show you the transfer speeds. Maybe you have a generic MicroSD ?
Jonathan1683 said:
Mine copys pretty fast if you install du meter I think it will show you the transfer speeds. Maybe you have a generic MicroSD ?
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For me, I'm using SanDisk. Do you happen to be using a SDHC card? I never noticed this speed issue copying to a regular 2gb card. Of course, it could be that I am copying 2-3 times more data now and just didn't pay close enough attention in the past.
cardreader works only after flash a new rom a thats all. and wm5torage doesnþt work at all
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how is it possible that copying files to sd card over wifi or usb is much more slower than copying to memory of phone. and how to fix it?
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This could be because when you download something the device will write little bits of data every time a few kBs are downloaded, so many little writes. Memory cards are VERY slow at writing small blocks.
Downloading to phone memory and then moving to the card with an explorer might be worth a try.
Same problem with many little files, memory cards don't like those.
BTW, the speed of the Kaiser's USB port IS USB1.1-like. Maybe the hardware is USB2-compliant, but as all traffic has to go through the CPU the effective speed isn't any higher. It will take a good 20 mins to copy a 950MB file.
I have a tiny keyring microSD reader that's lightning fast. I have a 2GB card inside that I can use like a common USB disk, and when I need more space or want to transfer stuff to the phone I remove it and put the phone's 8GB card instead.
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I thought I was having a real slow copy this morning using USB cable to copy to micro-sd in phone. For camparison, I was copying a little under 4gb of music files to the 8gb micro-sd card and it took like 2 hrs. I would have popped it into the memory card reader on the PC, but for some reason either the reader or the PC (vista 64bit) does not like the 8gb SDHC card.
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Hotfix for Windows XP that adds support for SDHC cards that have a capacity of more than 4 GB
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934428
Not sure that'll work directly for you in Vista 64, but you might find related items. I had to do that to my laptop to get my Tilt's card to read in my work laptop which is running XP 32. I need to get a new card reader at home unfortunately, no matter what I do to it, it won't read SDHC.
Hello all,
I am trying to copy files from my computer to my storage card. I'm currently using WM5Storage. Everytime I try to move the files over, it indicates that my storage card is not formatted, and asks if I wish to format it. I always click NO because I have several cab files on the storage card that I can use in case something happens and I need to reinstall something.
When I try to move things via Windows Explorer (the mobile device folder), I get the same result.
Anyone know how I can accomplish this?
Thanks so much.
when connecting the kaiser to the computer (xp sp3), you can see a new network connexion created and opened at 10 Mbts. That means the usb link is usb 1.1, a poor performance for a material as the kaiser.
Big files, using usb 1.1 are very long to transfer.
Best regards
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when connecting the kaiser to the computer (xp sp3), you can see a new network connexion created and opened at 10 Mbts. That means the usb link is usb 1.1, a poor performance for a material as the kaiser.
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The Kaiser provides USB 2.0 'Full Speed' specs which means up to 12 Mb (as opposed to USB 2.0 Hi Speed which goes up to 480 Mb) BUT it's not the hardware that accounts for the poor file transfer speed, it's Activesync/WMDC. Anyone who has ever seen files transferring across to from a PC with a healthy (but old) 10 Mb NIC will realise the Kaiser via Activesync offers nowhere near that level of performance.
Hello, I have an HTC Touch diamond from Telus, i've searched around these forums, and can't find quite the similar problem I have. My device only lists 102.55 MB of internal storage in the settings, and when i try to the Clear Storage program it says it can't find the mass storage, is this fixable or do i have to take it back to Telus.
Are you sure? If you click on "memory" in "settings" the first screen you get ("main" tab) only refers to the ROM and RAM available. You need to click on the "storage card" tab to find the 4Gb of internal storage
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Hello, I have an HTC Touch diamond from Telus, i've searched around these forums, and can't find quite the similar problem I have. My device only lists 102.55 MB of internal storage in the settings, and when i try to the Clear Storage program it says it can't find the mass storage, is this fixable or do i have to take it back to Telus.
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I am experiencing the same issue with the Sprint version I received today. Same issue with the Clear Storage program. When I go to settings, memory, storage card, it says "Total Storage Card Memory: Not installed"
Thanks.
Can you find the internal storage using file explorer on the HTC and explorer on activsync on your PC? Have you suceeded in copying something to it using activsync? If you can it is there. Why it is not being reported in memory is not so clear
A problem which I had a few times ocured when I tried to start a programm on the internal storage whil it was conected to a pc as a internal storage then the Diamond gives the internal storage a other name such as internal storage 1, 2 etc
Have a look at your file explorer you maid find it there.
Willem
Slight variation on this topic but related.
Can someone tell me if there are hidden files or something similar on the internal storage?
When I look at All settings -> system -> memory, it says that there is 2725MB in use but if I total the individual values for each folder in my internal storage it only adds up to 2122MB. It's driving me mad as space is limited enough as it is...
In a response to an earlier query, if you plugin your device as a mass storage device, the Internal Storage is unmounted from the phone's system so you cannot use it, and when you try to launch an application which requires this internal storage you can run into big problems of it "creating" a new Internal Storage. By this time when you unplug your device from the computer it will then rename your actual Internal Storage to Internal Storage 1/2 and you will have to go into file explorer and delete this, then reconnect your device to the computer and it should be ok again when you disconnect it.
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In a response to an earlier query, if you plugin your device as a mass storage device, the Internal Storage is unmounted from the phone's system so you cannot use it, and when you try to launch an application which requires this internal storage you can run into big problems of it "creating" a new Internal Storage. By this time when you unplug your device from the computer it will then rename your actual Internal Storage to Internal Storage 1/2 and you will have to go into file explorer and delete this, then reconnect your device to the computer and it should be ok again when you disconnect it.
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A good point. To give you an example of how this works. I installed TT6 by putting my (legitimate) CAB file maps etc onto the internal memory by setting it as a USB device and using drag and drop in Explorer. The moment I disconnected the phone from the PC it re-recognised the internal memory and ran the TomTom auto-installation app. It is exactly the same as inserting an SD card into an SD slot of any other PDA.
Having same issue. I deleted the contents and the folder Internal Storage and am doing a hard reset. Will post results.
BTW - HTC and Sprint really should have a better solution to fixing this rather than all this mess. Even the ipod is easier to remount when you unplug during sync and I thought that was annoying....
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BTW - HTC and Sprint really should have a better solution to fixing this rather than all this mess. Even the ipod is easier to remount when you unplug during sync and I thought that was annoying....
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I think you may have misunderstood what we are saying. This problem only occurs when you choose the (non-default) option of the PC recognising the internal storage as a seperate USB drive rather than as an activsync connection when you make your connection to the PC. If you choose that option then no automatic activsync activity will occur when you dock because activsync will not start. On the other hand file transfers will be much quicker and easier and you can use drag and drop in your PC's explorer.
If you decide not to use this facility then activsync works fine and you should have no problems with automated syncing and unplugging whilst that is happening (although that latter action is not recomended with either Windows or Apple based phones or PDAs).
The main advantage that Windows based PDAs and phones have over Apple based ones are that they are much more easily changed (as most of these forums show!) and "tweaked" to suit what the end user wants. Apple is more "technology for technophobes". However the disadvantage with the Windows system is that there is more for the end user to bugger up - hence all the cries for help on this forum.
No I understood what you meant. I was just comparing the issue. When Internal Storage still shows up under My Device but does not show up under Memory it tells me that the phone has "un mounted" the memory. The question is how do you re-mount this? Unless i am missing something which I very well may be....this appears to be the issue. At least the one I am faced with.
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No I understood what you meant. I was just comparing the issue. When Internal Storage still shows up under My Device but does not show up under Memory it tells me that the phone has "un mounted" the memory. The question is how do you re-mount this? Unless i am missing something which I very well may be....this appears to be the issue. At least the one I am faced with.
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You remount it by returning the HTC to its standard activsync setting, via its settings menu You can do that while it is still connected to the PC and when you hit OK activsync instantly starts and syncs. In addition Explorer recognises it as a mobile device rather than the removable storage when it was in USB mode.
I do not think it is correct to compare an additional Windows feature (that the Apple does not have) with the standard feature that the Apple does have. A more accurate comparison would be the two in the same activsync mode, in which case they are similar, and neither has this problem
At the end of the day if anybody does not like the extra facility the HTC has to show and use its internal storage in the same way as a memory card when hooked up to the PC (because of its disadvantages) then they should not use it and they should stick with activsync. At least in Windows world we have the option.
WOW!
Dropping the ipod reference and my apologies for stepping on toes by mentioning it.
Setting it to active sync or hard drive has NO affect on this what so ever. I wish it did as it would be an easy fix. Apparently during any kind of disconnect the memory module freaks out and it corrupts the file system. That is apparently why the phone will not recognize it. Some people have had success connecting the phone over and over to a computer until it mounts the drive and then via the computer they format the drive and then hard reset and its fixed.
In this case its very similar as the HTC device will not remount the memory module. I contacted HTC and they verified that its a problem and have recommended an RMA to sprint.
Personally I don't even buy the HTC response. There has to be a way to remount the memory back to the phone as the drive will occasionally show up even in windows. It just wont allow a format as it locks up.
Oops sorry if I sounded a tad touchy... . I really did not mean to upset.
It is just that I think that Apple are really good at marketing to the "cool fool" market, and persuading people that they are technologically more advanced than they really are. The classic example of this is the iphone that was trumpetted as having lots of "new" benefits, which had been on other competitor's phones for ages. The only thing cutting edge about them is their ease of use (which is I have to admit very good)
However I do not have the problem you are describing with my HTC touch diamond, and nor, I suspect, do the vast majority of other users. My memory module has never freaked out and corrupted my file system no matter how many times I connect or disconnect and no matter how I do it. So I suspect it is not a universal HTC problem, but one limited to the way that Sprint and maybe others (I assume in the US?) have implemented the software, or maybe on a rogue batch of hardware or software?
No worries...text does that some times.
Yeah I think its pretty much a US thing. PPCGEEKS has a thread going about it and it appears to be all sprint phone related.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=37485
So far what I have is this: When using file explorer, under My Device Is a folder called Internal Storage. When I go into settings to check memory, I have Storage & Program, 102.55MB and 203.84MB, respectively, that's Total. In the Storage card tab, it says Not installed. And when i try to clear storage and format internal storage it says "no Mass Storage found"
So I hopped over to PPC and this is what I found, unfortunately i'm going to work so no time but will try and report later on.
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Ok, here is what worked for me.
Hard reset - Connect to PC, Once connected as a USB Drive, VERY IMPORTANT - Don't try to open drive, only right click.
Choose Format, FAT32, Quick Format. It took about 5 seconds, then soft reset and it is up right now... We will see.
No go, Vista won't recognize my diamond as a drive hence no format...
I now know what I did wrong, I copied the internal storage to pc then back again using the disk function instead of AS. I now have internal storage2 showing and can't access any programs.
Can anyone tell me how to rename I.S.2 to I.S please.
delete the Internal Storage folder (which will just be a folder) with total commander, resco explorer or file explorer, then connect ur phone to ur pc in disk mode, then disconnect and it should rename back!
I suddenly lost the 4GB storage... can only see 'My Device'. All music, photos gone.
I read on other thread to try hard reset, how can I do that without loosing all my files that were on the 4GB memory?
Also
Do you think its a serious issue, I should change the phone (still under warranty)
Thanks!
i think you are connected with activesync ( HDD ) so the internal 4gb is locked.
best regards kw
Hi
Is the device connected to pc via usb?
Using device as a disk drive will do that...
hard reset wont touch internal storage only phone memory.
More info
Im not connected to PC (as my laptop runs Ubuntu and cant connect Pocket Pc to it)
and as far as Im aware the active sync is not on...
help!
Try soft reset, if problem still exist try Hard reset.
http://www.hardreset.eu/htc_touch_diamond_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html
did it
After 3 soft resets.. even a call to T-mobile (told to take the phone to the store) I got the internal storage back. Have no idea what happened or what did it, but got it.
Hope it doesnt disappear again... Thanks guys
Hi jannen,
If you phone is connected to any device (even the charger). According to the manuals if you phone is connected as with ActiveSync then "Internal Storage" is available. If the phone is connected as "Disk Drive" then wend you connect any device the drive is not available to the phone.
I fin that sometimes when I connect my phone to the charger, the phone thinks it must give connection to the device and so if I had set it to "Disk Drive", the internal memory is not available while connected.
To overcome this, I have my phone on ActiveSync all the time and not problems.
Best Regards.
Something that also happens is when the Diamond is in drive mode (\Internal Storage\ disappears)...I setup my mail to save to the Internal Storage card. Since the system no longer sees the directory, sometimes my mail creates a whole new "Internal Storage" folder and saves stuff there. When I disconnect the Diamond, I then have two folders:
\Internal Storage
\Internal Storage 2
Since my apps are on the "2", nothing shows up from the links.
The fix is simple. I just delete the new "Internal Storage" folder and reboot. Everything returns to normal.
Hello all.
I have a problem when copying some files to the Diamond. I have it plugged in as a USB Drive.
I am trying to copy the files for Android to the phone, i first tried copying the whole folder over (i know i have enough space), but it came up with "Cannot copy data: The Parameter is Incorrect" error.
i have since been able to copy over other files, and some of the Android files, but it wont copy the 32mb main files.
anyone got any idea? Google hasn't helped this time...
Cheers!
I've seen this error as well. I unplugged the phone from the usb, plugged it in again, selected "active sync" connection, waited for windows to say active sync was connected, unplugged the usb to disconnect and finally connected again in disk drive mode. The transfer worked.
My active sync version is 4.5 and it only seems to happen with large files i.e 600 MB
Hope that helps!
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I've seen this error as well. I unplugged the phone from the usb, plugged it in again, selected "active sync" connection, waited for windows to say active sync was connected, unplugged the usb to disconnect and finally connected again in disk drive mode. The transfer worked.
My active sync version is 4.5 and it only seems to happen with large files i.e 600 MB
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cheers will give it a go.
file is only 32mb, seems strange.
i've heard that it can be due to the formatting, as FAT only supports up to 4GB or something, but the file is much smaller than that!
-update: tried your idea, and is still not working
well, sort of solved the problem lol
put the files into a ZIP then copied the zip file accross, then unzipped it.
Just happened to me again!
The phone was attatched in disk drive mode, 'my computer' properties showed 380 MB free space. I tried to add a 330MB file and got 'parameter incorrect' error. Deleted a 1GB folder and with so much free space, the 300 MB file transferred without a problem. Be interesting to see exactly how full the 4GB storage can be before the error occurs.
Update:
'my computer' properties /removable drive free space =740 MB
phone/settings/memory/storage card free space = 676 MB
That's why it gave me an error this time
i've encountered this problem some days ago.
i even thought that there is something wrong or some bad segments with my diamond's internal flash storage.
then i formatted the whole internal storage with A NEW USB CABLE which came along with my Canon PowerShot DC...
well, with this new usb cable, no matter how big the file is, such as 1kb or 1.4gb, i can copy them to internal storage without any problem.
just FYI...
sorry for my english 'cause English is not my native language.
Hi Jackyking!!
Your English is fine! I'd be interested to know if you can completely fill your 4GB storage. Let me know how you get on
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Hi Jackyking!!
Your English is fine! I'd be interested to know if you can completely fill your 4GB storage. Let me know how you get on
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When i formatted my diamond's flash storage, in case of new problems, i filled the whole 4GB storage with variety stuffs, such as mp3/avi/cab/rar files, at last the whole available storage is filled, well, it takes times
then, when i try to copy another 4MB mp3 file to it, i got a "no more free space" message from windows, then i tried the same with a 3.9MB mp3 file, it was done without any problem. after this, i thought it's OK for my diamond's flash storage.
sounds like formatting could make a difference.... some questions :-
would windows report bad sectors (if there were any) after formatting flash memory?
Do you think defragging flash memory makes a difference?
Could fragmentation cause "skips" when playing audio/video files?
mitchmangr said:
sounds like formatting could make a difference.... some questions :-
would windows report bad sectors (if there were any) after formatting flash memory?
Do you think defragging flash memory makes a difference?
Could fragmentation cause "skips" when playing audio/video files?
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1. no bad sectors reported by windows.
2. maybe, it is easy to backup all 4gb data and format the storage then restore the data, you will see the difference.
3. that won't happen. the "skips" or "short pause" of playing mp3 on diamond is another issue.
you can search the forum. that may be a driver or hardware problem.
Thanks for replying I won't say anymore until I try formatting the 4gb ! While I'm here, hasn't the Diamond got a bloody wonderful screen !!
By the way ,what is your native language or 'mother tongue' ?
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Thanks for replying I won't say anymore until I try formatting the 4gb ! While I'm here, hasn't the Diamond got a bloody wonderful screen !!
By the way ,what is your native language or 'mother tongue' ?
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你好。
Can your browser display the characters above correctly ?
it is HELLO in English.
it's CHINESE. i'm in mainland China.
same problem
I connected my Diamond to my PC as Hardisk (no Active Sync installed on this PC). I copy and pasted a few MP3 songs (several at one time; i.e. all CD). It worked for two CDs and now I get this error message "parameter incorrect". I only use 400 MB from the 4GB of the internal memory of the HTC.
Do I have to copy one song at a time???