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I recently purchased and modified an old RS Digitraveler and modified it for my MDA with the instructions here. Works great ... Thanks to Yorch and Cellfreak. Now I am wondering if anyone tried a better mapping software that will go with it. I would be very interested especially in creating my own maps for countries outside US for travels.
Also does anyone have a solution for SD 802.11b network card without SDIO port maybe using the usb connection etc on the craddle connector?
Cheers.
HB
I have attempted many direct cable and USB W-Fi solutions ( with Wireless Acess points from CISCO, Lynksis and others).
The biggest challenge is finding a unit that is self powered( does not draw power from the USB port itself) and for the device to recognize it.
I managed to get the device to recognize a WAP connected to a powered USB hub...but it was tricky and it defies the purpose of wireless connectivity because it is plugged in...
I open to ideas...
There is a thread called WIFI for the XDA with more details.
okay
so i plug in my tilt into the cradle, or the mini usb cable connection that i have, and in either case, the orange light comes up and the phone does indeed charge...however, the computer does not pick it up at all, i've tried on several computers already, and i tried it with pdacorner 16 and 18, both of which worked fine up until recently when this started happening...
so my question is, is it possible for the mini usb port on my tilt to have gotten messed up to the point where it still charges, but the connection to the computer doesn't work...
if so, what can i do about it?
the main reason i want to connect to the computer is to be able to use the 3g internet on my laptop/desktop, is there another way to do this?
The answer to the first question to the best of my knowledge is yes. The second question, you can send it to HTC or another repair company to get it repaired. I assume you have already tried a hard reset though. You can still tether your computer to your modem using your device's Wi-Fi and a program like WMWifiRouter. It isn't free, but it has many useful features including the ability to use your device's data connection over Wi-Fi. And FYI, if your computer has built in bluetooth (or you have a USB bluetooth USB key like I do), I think you can also tether over bluetooth without WMWifiRouter. I hope that answers your questions
Dave
You may not know how useful USB host is. You can use USB stick (up to 32GB), USB keyboard, USB mouse.
If it had USB host, I'd buy it for sure (wifi only).
Sadly NO...
On German Amazon its possible to pre order the device and the datasheed isnt saying something about USB Host
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1gfmv71YkS.pdf
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0041RSF6Y/
This one was my favorite (because of the Phone capability) until you asked this very good question
Maybe they got it rooted in future and then its possible? (depends also on hardware...)
Greetz Tokl
I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
I guess what gets hacked depends on what the hackers think is worth doing, and I can see that USB host would be an especailly awesome thing for the Tab so hopefully it will get some interest.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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This is SO true. I remember people trying for years to hack USB host mode in to Nokia's Linux Tablets: the N770 and such. I wonder: Did they ever manage to do it?
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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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I don't know about the N8, sadly I just don't have much interest in that part of the mobile space. However, some googling seems to indicate that it is possible (news articles say so) but I don't know if its naitive or needs hacking.
As for the keyboard and stuff, thats a good point. I can't see them using a non-usb standard for that, so it must just be the proprietary connector that makes the difference. In that case, all we should need is a Tab-USB connector, and a few drivers. That would really give the tab some muscle.
In general can mobile devices support the USB min-harddrives ? The ones that power from the port ? If thats possible then the tab will kick serious ass. 250 gigs in your pocket for cheaper than a microSD card.
I'm not really a fan of Nokia's products either, although they USED to make great products they haven't done so in awhile. And I *hate* Symbian. Anyways, at least the N8 DOES have some USB Host capabilities:
"Among the Nokia N8's neater tricks is its support for USB On-The-Go, which basically lets you connect USB peripherals (flash drives, for example) to the phone and have it act as a host..."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/nokia-n8s-usb-on-the-go-support-demoed-lesser-phones-turned-in/
That was almost perfectly offtopic, sorry for that ^_^
Oh, or not, perhaps! Look what I JUST found:
"USB Standard port adapter
With this kit your Galaxy Tab becomes a standard USB port. With this USB port you can synchronize your digital camera or other devices."
http://www.oled-display.net/more-sa...s-bluetooth-pen-standard-usb-adapter-and-more
Well if they are going to officially make an adapter then maybe we are going to get USB Host... I can't see how you could transfer things off a digicam without the Tab hosting it as a drive.
Well... This looks pretty awesome then.
But they *CAN* cripple the functionality to just mass-storage devices or perhaps just cameras, like Apple did with their USB Camera connection kit, or whatever it was called.
Let's just hope that Samsung doesn't go that route.
Hopefully samsung aren't that stupid Although in theory we should be able to hack it back open anyway, and its a good start at least.
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm also wondering about usb host (or at least OTG) on the Tab (as I'm considering buying on to port Meego to).
Could someone who has the keyboard doc post the dmesg output once it's been plugged in please?
From some dmesg output I saw elsewhere (but not with the keyboard dock), it appears that the USB chipset is an OTG version, and seeing it act in host mode with the keyboard doc plugged in would be a nice confirmation.
I Would be interested to see the anser for this one.
Yes it is launched (mainly for photographers) i have seen it's price, very cool cheap at £10000 plus something!
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It's not the Fools Day yet, so keep your jokes at bay.
OK, I just ordered a keyboard dock and I'll have a look. I'll post a dmesg output and open it to see if the PCB is marked in any way.
According to the pinout (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838) there seems to be no other way for data to flow apart from USB.
So one of the following must (should) be true:
1. Samsung is reusing the pins for a proprietary protocol -probably reconfiguring the device by pulling up or down other pins.
2. The device is capable of host/OTG mode but it is probably unpowered and it probably needs a pin pull-up/pull-down to enable.
3. The keyboard is using unidentified pins, and the USB pins are used simply for the PC connection and power.
Does anyone know if the keyboard acts as a proper dock? i.e. when you connect it to the pc does it work at the same time as (say) KIES or drive mount?
Just a quick update, the keyboard was just shipped, and I should have it by Tuesday.
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Hi,
Just wondering whether you got any further with this?
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There was a problem with my order (the company didn't have any in stock) and the keyboard hasn't arrived yet. Still waiting!
I'll post the moment it arrives.
EDIT: Normally I would name and shame the company, but they are sending me a couple of freebies for their mistake so I'm happy
USB host
This is a good concept. I have an Archos 70 and a Galaxy tab. Archos has a micro usb port with which I connected my USB host adapter and the key board and mouse works . Flash drive and router dongle says more power required. So I am looking for a powered USB connector for this.
Unfortunately, Galaxy tab has different cable and I dont know if I can find a host cable for this. Any suggestion?
Worth a shot?
After reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838
I checked the G-Tab pinout :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
and tried to ground pin 13 to put the tab in host mode last night... needless to say since I'm typing this on my computer... epic fail. However, I'm curious if anyone else has had any success with this.
I'm not too much of a fan of buying something to destroy... but if I have to disassemble a dock to get the pinout for monitor mode... suck!
Anyone have any advice as to what I jacked up here?
Dear everyone!
I read of some other forum about nexus 7 can connect to 3g usb & work well. So, can Hp Touchpad android connect to 3g usb like this? i hope this thing is happen, you know touchpad will awesome with this mighty thing.
Plz teach me how, if you guy did it.
Many Thanks
Unlike Nexus 7, touchpad micro usb doesn't provide any power. That said, you need a Y connector and a power source to get the USB Host functionality.
Therefore it is not portable and painful setup if you want to use it on the go. Another thing is the driver for the 3g dongle itself, its possibly already implemented in the driver, if not its never going to happen, since its a pain in the ass to write a new driver specifically for the 'old' touchpad.
If you need internet connection on the go, I suggest you to get one of the portable hotspot device like huawei e585 or similar kind or you could even share your android/iphone internet (wifi tether)
Just to give you an idea of how messy the setup of the OTG on touchpad is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc7tlPwFQpg
thanks for your informaition
Thanks for your Information, i heared that before and now i'm using my phone to tether internet connection for that. It's just a little hoping for miracle thing on touchpad. I always believe a day when touchpad rising again ^^.
Many Thanks Guys.
This would be a workaround. I had one similar to this that was rechargeable .
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002FJZHWU
3g dongle works with hp touchpad now. Check Josh's PPPWidget forum. I am using a ZTE MF110 with it on CM9 and get better performance than on a win7 machine.
Hello
I was wondering if someone could kindly advise me on this. I am basically going travelling in a little over a month, and would like to bring my Touchpad with me. There are a few slight hiccups, and I was wondering if these plans would work.
I need to store pictures taken from a camera on the TouchPad, to then upload to my Dropbox account. I was wondering if anyone knows either of these configurations would work;
- Micro USB to USB (Female)
- USB Female to insert SD Card adapter
- Copy photos over to Touchpad
OR
- Use THIS CONNECTOR (link goes to Amazon page)
- Insert SD card into that
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My next question relates to 3G. Would it be possible to (again) use a micro usb to USB Female adapter (with OTG) and then insert a 3G dongle into that? This is less important, as I can still get WiFi access every so often!
Thanks for the help - I will, of course, hit the thanks button for any useful responses.
A quick search of the forum would get you to the issues of OTG and connecting anything external (particularly on the move). You need to find a way of injecting power into the TP micro-USB to get OTG to work. Some hav edone this with battery powered hubs but there is no clean and elegant solution and if you want something light, simple and reliable on your journey you may be better off with a different tablet.
One solution for your photos though which I have used is a WiFi SD Card in the camera that will allow the tablet to get at the photos (if your camera can take that).
Finally, for 3G, other than the OTG issues, you would also need to check out kernel support for whatever dongle you are using within whatever ROM variant you used.
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A quick search of the forum would get you to the issues of OTG and connecting anything external (particularly on the move). You need to find a way of injecting power into the TP micro-USB to get OTG to work. Some hav edone this with battery powered hubs but there is no clean and elegant solution and if you want something light, simple and reliable on your journey you may be better off with a different tablet.
One solution for your photos though which I have used is a WiFi SD Card in the camera that will allow the tablet to get at the photos (if your camera can take that).
Finally, for 3G, other than the OTG issues, you would also need to check out kernel support for whatever dongle you are using within whatever ROM variant you used.
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Thanks for the response.
I had seen various discussion of OTG, which have been nothing short of confusing - simply because of the many different conversations going on! I am trying to avoid the need to buy another device - whilst I have the funds in my bank account, I already need to get another camera (well, I say need - I would like to, going to get the Panasonic Lumix TZ40). Whilst it has WiFi, I am not totally sure how that will work on a potentially dodgy WiFi connection and also how it will work with Android. I am currently using Milaq's CM 10.2.
I should point out I would be happy to give any ROM a spin whilst travelling, simply to get this to work.
The OTG situation is certainly not clear cut and because of the extra items needed to get it to work, not at all ideal if you are on the move. I am not sure how the WiFi works on that camera, but I have used the Transcend WiFi SD card in my Sony Bridge camera and it acts as a hot-spot so does not depend on any other WiFi around. I am pretty sure the Eye-Fi works that way to. You should be able to find the camera manual online to check what WiFi modes you would get but that would be the most suitable means of linking camera to TP.
EDIT: Confirmed that Lumix TZ40 can connect using WiFi to phone or tablet and they have their own app to manage it (search for 'Panasonic Image App')
dmarchant said:
The OTG situation is certainly not clear cut and because of the extra items needed to get it to work, not at all ideal if you are on the move. I am not sure how the WiFi works on that camera, but I have used the Transcend WiFi SD card in my Sony Bridge camera and it acts as a hot-spot so does not depend on any other WiFi around. I am pretty sure the Eye-Fi works that way to. You should be able to find the camera manual online to check what WiFi modes you would get but that would be the most suitable means of linking camera to TP.
EDIT: Confirmed that Lumix TZ40 can connect using WiFi to phone or tablet and they have their own app to manage it (search for 'Panasonic Image App')
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Certainly agree it wouldn't be ideal on the move, I am trying my best to not need to pay out another £240 for a Nexus 7 or £319 for an iPad Mini though!
This has just occurred to me, on the basis the TZ40 is obviously self powered, and OTG can work on the Touchpad if there is a power source, would it simply work if I used a micro usb to mico usb cable? Although judging by the fact Amazon only has one listing for this, I doubt it... a Nexus would be ideal though, given how both devices have NFC ;(
Hey i wanted to use my Touchpad for something similar, i used this http://www.amazon.co.uk/PQI-A100-Dr...F8&qid=1384550398&sr=8-1&keywords=sd+card+pqi to put my cameras SD card in, it then transits a WiFi hotspot which you connect to touchpad to in order to view and transfer files. As for 3G can you use a phone with WiFi hotspot mode and tether to it?
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Nathanation said:
Hey i wanted to use my Touchpad for something similar, i used this http://www.amazon.co.uk/PQI-A100-Dr...F8&qid=1384550398&sr=8-1&keywords=sd+card+pqi to put my cameras SD card in, it then transits a WiFi hotspot which you connect to touchpad to in order to view and transfer files. As for 3G can you use a phone with WiFi hotspot mode and tether to it?
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When you say "transmits a WiFi hotspot", I assume that still leaves me with the issue that I need some form of WiFi in the first place. This is my concern, as some of the places I'll be visiting really won't be feasible in terms of transferring 1gb of photos on a potentially woefully slow wifi network . Apologies if I have missed the point there, I'll hit the thanks button for any help!
Cheers
The device creates its own WiFi signal which the touchpad can connect to as it would any other network. This can work independently of an internet connected WiFi network. I used mine at goodwood festival of speed to transfer images from my DSLR camera to my touchpad.
Its essentially the same as using the WiFi SD cards that another user above mentioned.
I have used OTG on the touchpad with CM9 but it required a specific kernel and a USB Y cable and an external battery pack, it was quicker at transferring files that WiFi but not exactly portable. Hope that kinda helps.
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Nathanation said:
Hey i wanted to use my Touchpad for something similar, i used this http://www.amazon.co.uk/PQI-A100-Dr...F8&qid=1384550398&sr=8-1&keywords=sd+card+pqi to put my cameras SD card in, it then transits a WiFi hotspot which you connect to touchpad to in order to view and transfer files. As for 3G can you use a phone with WiFi hotspot mode and tether to it?
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Nathanation said:
The device creates its own WiFi signal which the touchpad can connect to as it would any other network. This can work independently of an internet connected WiFi network. I used mine at goodwood festival of speed to transfer images from my DSLR camera to my touchpad.
Its essentially the same as using the WiFi SD cards that another user above mentioned.
I have used OTG on the touchpad with CM9 but it required a specific kernel and a USB Y cable and an external battery pack, it was quicker at transferring files that WiFi but not exactly portable. Hope that kinda helps.
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Oh blimey I see! Thanks - I assumed you'd still need a provider (like you normally would, ie. BT, TalkTalk, Virgin in the UK..
Thanks very much
Ah that's a better way of putting it, I was struggling trying to think of how to explained it, yeah no provider necessary.
What smartphone have you got? As many support OTG with a simple adaptor and then you would have 3G and be able to upload photos.
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Nathanation said:
Ah that's a better way of putting it, I was struggling trying to think of how to explained it, yeah no provider necessary.
What smartphone have you got? As many support OTG with a simple adaptor and then you would have 3G and be able to upload photos.
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HTC One X, but I do not think I will be bringing it with me (too short battery life, and too attractive to thieves to get out to contact people in-country!)
Really appreciate the help - only capable of learning things easily myself if I don't need to buy things to test if it works :L