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May i know whats you guys free memory i am experiencing smoother and lag free when its on below 60% is there anyway to go lower?
Not really as the phone itself has a memory leakage problem....you can try flashing to other roms if you like but the simple fact is the phone will still leak memory. We really need a rom that will fix it properly but for the time being i dont think anyone has been able to completely stop the mem leakage.
phoby said:
May i know whats you guys free memory i am experiencing smoother and lag free when its on below 60% is there anyway to go lower?
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Great ive been seeking the same. I just close and open all the time no backgorund running of any kind. Maybe a compress memory function. I totally agree on the smother running with free mem.
cheers boys!
phoby said:
May i know whats you guys free memory i am experiencing smoother and lag free when its on below 60% is there anyway to go lower?
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yup noticed same, when below 60% ram usage TF3d is smooth as silk.
Hi there.
Well I found a couple of threads on how to improve 3d graphics performance but nothing on 2d which is more important to me. So that's why Im asking you guys if anybody knows anything please do let me know even a tinny bit of help would be absolutely appreciated. Cheers !!!
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does anybody have any idea ???
OC? or chainfire 3D?
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cheers mate.
but I was thinking of something like tweaks or adreno libs or some sort of script or hardware acceleration or kernel stuff or... not chainfire or oc (overclocked to 980mhz, well it did make stuff a bit smoother but I can't keep it that high, phone will simply melt down, why should we even have to overclock, that just shows the weakness of the OS, 800mhz should be enough to process simple 2d stuff )
Something that could actually make a difference, I'm starting to get fed up with android, my ace originally runs at 800mhz but an iPhone 3gs runs at 600mhz and it doesn't lag as much (in fact it doesn't lag at all, it has less ram than ace)
thanks anyway
Find this line in build.prop
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already done that, dunno may be it makes things a bit smoother but I didn't notice it so much. thank you very much anyway
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cheers mate.
but I was thinking of something like tweaks or adreno libs or some sort of script or hardware acceleration or kernel stuff or... not chainfire or oc (overclocked to 980mhz, well it did make stuff a bit smoother but I can't keep it that high, phone will simply melt down, why should we even have to overclock, that just shows the weakness of the OS, 800mhz should be enough to process simple 2d stuff )
Something that could actually make a difference, I'm starting to get fed up with android, my ace originally runs at 800mhz but an iPhone 3gs runs at 600mhz and it doesn't lag as much (in fact it doesn't lag at all, it has less ram than ace)
thanks anyway
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hmm.. you know that iphone 3GS has a PoverVR GPU ? i think it is better than our ace's GPU (adreno200) .. and their CPU is CortexA8 ! it is just underclocked..
kevintangi said:
hmm.. you know that iphone 3GS has a PoverVR GPU ? i think it is better than our ace's GPU (adreno200) .. and their CPU is CortexA8 ! it is just underclocked..
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Yep, but still the hardware on our ace isn't as shi* as you think I mean come on its 2d, I am not even on about 3d. There is gotta be a way. I ran a benchmark (quadrant) on cm9 2d was like 65 fps and on cm7 its like 35. wtf. but the 3d (the 3D graphics) is as smooth as hell. what kinda thing is this that can process 3d but not 2d.
cheers!!!!
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Yep, but still the hardware on our ace isn't as shi* as you think I mean come on its 2d, I am not even on about 3d. There is gotta be a way. I ran a benchmark (quadrant) on cm9 2d was like 65 fps and on cm7 its like 35. wtf. but the 3d (the 3D graphics) is as smooth as hell. what kinda thing is this that can process 3d but not 2d.
cheers!!!!
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well.. if i may know.. why u need 2D that much ? i have no other ideas installed adrenaline engine ?
kevintangi said:
well.. if i may know.. why u need 2D that much ? i have no other ideas installed adrenaline engine ?
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Yep, but doesn't have any effect on 2d.
well I used to play games a lot I mean games like bia2 or nova even dead space, why can our ace process all these 3d stuff with no problem or with the least problems (i mean i wouldn't even expect ace to run dead space have you seen the graphics ??? ) but cant process simple 2d graphics.
I just wanna open up my app drawer and scroll between pages and have no lag i have tried different launchers (go, holo, qq ...) or the phone lags if I scroll down in the settings menu wtf there is literally nothing there but text and a black background.
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surely this is a software issue
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Yep, but doesn't have any effect on 2d.
well I used to play games a lot I mean games like bia2 or nova even dead space, why can our ace process all these 3d stuff with no problem or with the least problems (i mean i wouldn't even expect ace to run dead space have you seen the graphics ??? ) but cant process simple 2d graphics.
I just wanna open up my app drawer and scroll between pages and have no lag i have tried different launchers (go, holo, qq ...) or the phone lags if I scroll down in the settings menu wtf there is literally nothing there but text and a black background.
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umh, yea.. maybe software issue, btw this always happens in all roms ? mine doesnt seem so ? i think it is ur min CPU freq ? no ?
really, mine doesnt lag at all. some lags do occur when i run several apps at once (tapatalk, opera mini, sms, twitter) at the same time.
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Find this line in build.prop
Debug.sf.hw=1
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It won't change/do anything. Here is link to Android source code.
kevintangi said:
umh, yea.. maybe software issue, btw this always happens in all roms ? mine doesnt seem so ? i think it is ur min CPU freq ? no ?
really, mine doesnt lag at all. some lags do occur when i run several apps at once (tapatalk, opera mini, sms, twitter) at the same time.
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My governor is always set to performance. i've tried min 480 and 245 no dif.
performance doesn't really drain my battery and my phone doesn't get as hot as before, interactive works well too
well think about, cm9 65fps cm7 35fps. its definitely software issue our poor ace has good hardware but not the software it deserves.
what are your suggestions people ???? we gotta find a way.
For settings scroll lag, disable scrolling cache! It helps a lot!
galaxyace152 said:
For settings scroll lag, disable scrolling cache! It helps a lot!
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cheers, but still not quite there. Have you tried cm9 ??? scroll down and you will see what I mean. It's the true meaning of smoothness (in terms of scrolling not ...
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by the way what is the build.prop code for scrolling cache ???
waiting waiting waiting .... 2 years later still waiting .... 10 years later still waiting .... 30 years later dead by that time
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waiting waiting waiting .... 2 years later still waiting .... 10 years later still waiting .... 30 years later dead by that time
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well, here's my opinion about "our-mighty" lag problem.
1. android bellow 3.0(1.5 - 2.3.7) is not using hardware to render UI, it use software rendering instead, so this explain why iPhone 3G(128MB ram, 434Mhz ArmV6, PowerVR MBX<==same GPU as nokia N95) UI scrolling is waaayyy smoother than SGA. even galaxy note is doesnt as smooth as iPhone 3g.(stock GB firmware)
2. android 3.0 & 4.0 is render UI with GPU, BUT some kind of thread-that-response-for touch is not on the TOP PRIORITY, this explain why ICS is lag...specially for our device, and ICS from maclaw is still have some graphical glitches.
3. wanna smooth UI?? try JB alpha.....i think there is no solution for LAG, at least at the moment......
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well, here's my opinion about "our-mighty" lag problem.
1. android bellow 3.0(1.5 - 2.3.7) is not using hardware to render UI, it use software rendering instead, so this explain why iPhone 3G(128MB ram, 434Mhz ArmV6, PowerVR MBX<==same GPU as nokia N95) UI scrolling is waaayyy smoother than SGA. even galaxy note is doesnt as smooth as iPhone 3g.(stock GB firmware)
2. android 3.0 & 4.0 is render UI with GPU, BUT some kind of thread-that-response-for touch is not on the TOP PRIORITY, this explain why ICS is lag...specially for our device, and ICS from maclaw is still have some graphical glitches.
3. wanna smooth UI?? try JB alpha.....i think there is no solution for LAG, at least at the moment......
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cheers, but :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: ...
Does the JB alpha drain battry as fast as The ics ???? or its been fixed i was gonna try it but you know its alpha so thought may be later.
i'll give you a thank tomorrow i'm limited to 8 thanks a day What the actual Fuc*.
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And to all the devs out there is there anyway to do this, and is there a way to make this bloody useless OS to use hardware to render UI.
and is cm9 or 10 ever actually gonna be official for ace ??? i don't think so!!! is it???
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Does the JB alpha drain battry as fast as The ics ???? or its been fixed i was gonna try it but you know its alpha so thought may be later.
i'll give you a thank tomorrow i'm limited to 8 thanks a day What the actual Fuc*.
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And to all the devs out there is there anyway to do this, and is there a way to make this bloody useless OS to use hardware to render UI.
and is cm9 or 10 ever actually gonna be official for ace ??? i don't think so!!! is it???
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i think android wasnt that bad......well, compared to BB OS, and symbian
ICS alpha is not for daily use, at least, it will show you smoother UI, and you can wait for next release.
dont bother to thanks me bro
always happy to help ppl.....
Hey guys first of all I'm new on XDA.
My Galaxy S Advance just doesn't feel ''butter smooth'' like it should be. When I use my friends Galaxy S II, I really feel the difference when scrolling through homescreens. When I'm scrolling through my homescreens on my SGS Advance it just feels like it has something like 40-50 fps.
Does anyone know a solution for this? Or is this just the flaws of the SGS Advance?
I'm running Cyanogenmod 11, but I've had many different ROM and Kernels, they all didn't solve the problem.
40 - 50 FPS ? really ? In my opinion your eyes can't realize 24 FPS above if you are NOT playing Battlefield 3.
24 FPS is enough (maybe not good as you want lol)
30 FPS is good (smooth as we wait)
45 FPS is very good (excellent)
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I bet you have problems with scrolling especially in the internet browser. I encounter too.
King ov Hell said:
40 - 50 FPS ? really ? In my opinion your eyes can't realize 24 FPS above if you are NOT playing Battlefield 3.
I bet you have problems with scrolling especially in the internet browser. I encounter too.
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Well 40-50 fps is what I think. If I'm playing games I certainly can see the difference between 60 fps and 50 fps. The problem occurs everywhere but is most noticable in scrolling and as you said when scrolling in a browser.
Leonveerman said:
Well 40-50 fps is what I think. If I'm playing games I certainly can see the difference between 60 fps and 50 fps. The problem occurs everywhere but is most noticable in scrolling and as you said when scrolling in a browser.
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All I can say is "I know I too" but you can perform some basic things. If you're using stock sam ROM you can install CoCore Kernel and you can delete unnecesary system apps. If you're using CM you can disable reporting, touchbooster, some debug stuff on kernel.
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All I can say is "I know I too" but you can perform some basic things. If you're using stock sam ROM you can install CoCore Kernel and you can delete unnecesary system apps. If you're using CM you can disable reporting, touchbooster, some debug stuff on kernel.
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Hmm, well I'm using CM but somehow I can't install CoCore kernel on CM11 because I get in a bootloop if I do. About the Disable Reporting and Touchbooster, I don't know how I can set or change these things, how do I do that?:silly:
Can't compare with S2.
980 2424526
coffeecore said:
Can't compare with S2.
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I know you can't compare the SGS Advance with the S 2 but It's only the lag/low framerate, I don't get why it is not running smooth. Apps start up just as fast as on the S 2.
Leonveerman said:
I know you can't compare the SGS Advance with the S 2 but It's only the lag/low framerate, I don't get why it is not running smooth. Apps start up just as fast as on the S 2.
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On CMs we have problem with tearing screens while scrolling or similar actions. I guess it is because we do not have stock 4.2.2+ firmwares, so devs did some modifications from 4.1 or something. They will explain you better. But they will fix it if it is possible.
Hello,
I have my P9 now for a month or so and i really think it is a RAM eater, it sucks up my RAM.
It has 800mb's free ram when all i repeat all applications are closed that is not how it supposed to be i think so.
after i reboot my P9 it has 1.69GB free but after a day or so the same thing happens is this normal or not?
BTW i have the 3GB model EVA-L09
Hmm.. I have the same model too and I seem to drift at around 1.2~1.6 free most of the time unless I'm heavily multi-tasking, do you have any heavy apps that maybe auto-start or anything like that? You could also try factory resetting if it's going that bad.
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Hmm.. I have the same model too and I seem to drift at around 1.2~1.6 free most of the time unless I'm heavily multi-tasking, do you have any heavy apps that maybe auto-start or anything like that? You could also try factory resetting if it's going that bad.
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I already did factory reset
It is not much of a problem but just wondering if anyone had the same so thanks mate!
safariking said:
I already did factory reset
It is not much of a problem but just wondering if anyone had the same so thanks mate!
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It's not a problem, its memory management.
There's no point having lots of ram with nothing in it.
Edit..unless you're having performance issues?
Greasedferret said:
It's not a problem, its memory management.
There's no point having lots of ram with nothing in it.
Edit..unless you're having performance issues?
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Ah thanks and sometimes it lags thats all
safariking said:
Ah thanks and sometimes it lags thats all
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If there is lag and you feel it's RAM related, there is a "clean up" function in phone manager. Or just kill some apps from multitask view But most of the time there really are almost no benefits to having free ram on android. RAM performance is not scaling with the amount, like CPUs for example. It's more like, you have enough then you can run the apps, you don't have enough then you can't run it. But on android that's basically a non-issue because it will automatically clear the ram if you don't have enough for a certain task.
I get around 1.5-1.7 when freeing memory. I don't have a lot of apps installed though. It doesn't go down even after a few days withoit restarts unlike my older phones.
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If you are having a lag issue, there is a setting for 'protected applications'... in advanced, battery manager...may have a look there, and un-protect some.
The touch latency issue is very irritating on oneplus 3t.Scrolling on phone is not smooth because of this issue
Anyone else facing similar issue?
It feels smoother than my Nexus 6, the latency is too small to notice on an average day or even when playing games and this is coming from someone who cannot go above 5ms while playing CS Go.
ExjeetzZ said:
It feels smoother than my Nexus 6, the latency is too small to notice on an average day or even when playing games and this is coming from someone who cannot go above 5ms while playing CS Go.
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Latency issue is there when u start scrolling or scroll slowly on apps there is shuttring when u start
mannulko said:
Latency issue is there when u start scrolling or scroll slowly on apps there is shuttring when u start
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Oneplus is aware of this issue probably gonna fix this next update.....
xythiii said:
Oneplus is aware of this issue probably gonna fix this next update.....
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They are aware of this issue from past 3 months don't know when they will fix it
This issue is ruining overall phone user experience
I know it exists but how slow does one have to scroll for it to be persistent? I have personally not dealt with it and don't find it annoying. I suppose to each their own. I don't think they will fix the latency by a whole lot, if I know anything about screens then it won't be consistent on any one plus devices. I'm not sure if it's a software issue, or hardware. I don't understand why would they implement a lower latency on a software level.
Coming from galaxy s6 and s7 for example are very smooth. Yes maybe the average don't realize it or even care to think, but there are some of us who likes to use our Fone to be able to do more. This touch latency does bother on some games online especially if it's a fps shooting where ping and latency needs to be at its lowest.
After upgrade from Samsung Fone to this Oneplus 3t gaming now sucks. Please fix it!
I believe it's not touch latency but more like scroll latency
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I believe it's not touch latency but more like scroll latency
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Well, touch latency is the reason to scroll latency scroll latency and those 2 cannot be talked differently.
OP - Is it latency or stutters?? It seems you are talking more about stutters. If you are on stock kernel try clearing cache. If not, try using a more optimized kernel. Stock kernel or maybe use franco kernel and use high performance governor.
If you are not playing a high frame rate game, it should not really make a difference to anyone. IMO.
I'm sorry but how can anyone who have used any flagship ever before not notice this thing with this device. It's killing all the joy out of the device for me. No, it's not limited to scrolling only. Typing is hideous on this device.
Saad Ali said:
I'm sorry but how can anyone who have used any flagship ever before not notice this thing with this device. It's killing all the joy out of the device for me. No, it's not limited to scrolling only. Typing is hideous on this device.
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Agree
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They are aware of this issue from past 3 months don't know when they will fix it
This issue is ruining overall phone user experience
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They are not giving a rat ass about this, thy only gonna fix if media starts taking about it again and taking their reputation and damaging the image of company, im very dissapointed i like very much oneplus but touch latency in irritating if they not goona fix this im done with oneplus, switching to another company.....
Someone in my country uses this app to fix the touch latency
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=apps.redpi.touchscreenrepair
I highly doubt it will work, already tried it but don't feel any difference or maybe the improvements were too little to feel or its just a placebo knowing that the said app doesn't required rooted device and yet it will override system commands regarding touch response ?
Pls raise this issue with oneplus or it will never get fixed and oneplus will launch oneplus 4
Is the latency experienced only on nougert or mm
On mm 3.5.3 i didn't experience it but after that update latency issue was there
Coming from an iPhone this is whats holding me back to go Oneplus. I already placed an order for the Pixel XL but the delivery for that is sometime in March...MARCH!
Saad Ali said:
I'm sorry but how can anyone who have used any flagship ever before not notice this thing with this device. It's killing all the joy out of the device for me. No, it's not limited to scrolling only. Typing is hideous on this device.
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thankyou so much for this comment. I was almost going to buy this phone but will hold off until there's a reported fix.
Lag on a flagship is not a flagship no more.... Im still on the htc one m8, so long as i clear the cache from time to time i dont have lag. Wtf is going on with phones. They appear to go 4 steps forward only to go two back on old issues..
@arter97 fixed this in his kernel sources. It's as simple as switching over to a high priority work queue in the display driver. Decreased latency from 7ms to 2ms according to him in his commit message. Doing the same thing in my kernel for Onyx resulted in a dramatic drop to 4ms from around 10, so I thank him for the idea!
CertifiedBlyndGuy said:
@arter97 fixed this in his kernel sources. It's as simple as switching over to a high priority work queue in the display driver. Decreased latency from 7ms to 2ms according to him in his commit message. Doing the same thing in my kernel for Onyx resulted in a dramatic drop to 4ms from around 10, so I thank him for the idea!
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When did he made this commit ? Could you link me to it ?