To explain first. As I have written before I had had my SGS for a week and had then just installed Kies. It told me there was an update which I clicked to apply. SGS would ot re-start and it told me to do a recovery which I did and then re-applied the update. Result was I had 2.2 JPC on the SGS. I had not gone to Test Mode on Lies as I had not even learned there was one at that time.
Now my question is this. Kies says that JPC cannot be updated when I connected and clicked update to check for the final release. Does this mean it will not be updated when it arrives?
Get the odin release when its finqly realeased. Kies is one big piece of ****
ickyboo said:
Get the odin release when its finqly realeased. Kies is one big piece of ****
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Is Odin a Samsung installer then?
Its a leaked samsung flashing tool used at service centres
Actually.. I'd disagree here.
You might need ODIN possibly to upgrade from JPC to the final because you are dealing with test firmware.
HOWEVER, kies these days isn't so bad, and the 16 character crash seems to have been fixed. If you can avoid using ODIN, you should, because the images for odin may be fake, infected with a trojan, brick your phone or cause other issues. With Kies, you mostly guarantee you are using the OFFICIAL images, and that they are the right images for your phone.
There are greater risks related to using odin.
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yup.. my question is simple. can i upgrade my device through kies without editing anything to kies on a routed and lag fixed device?..
why i am asking this is that i have been using my galaxy s for around 2 months and have just upgraded it through kies to an official firmware nothing much
but since i have herd about the lag fixes so much that its tempting me too much to resist.. but i really dont want to get in the situation where i will have to flash my device using odin .. cozz i have never used it... i may only route my device and lag fix it only if it can be upgraded through kies if there is any further firmware released by samsung ... and hopefully upgrading through kies will bring it back to stock rom ..
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100% sure?? you mean to say.. that if a latest version firmware is released i would be able to flash the firmware through kies like before..?? and have you done that ever???
My current firmware, is not running good. It takes my phone like 15mins to boot, and lags alot!
I really want to get the best performance from my phone, but I was trying to stay to official firmware releases.
I am on o2, UK, and the only firmware update is from JP5, to JP6....
I am guessing this is a minimal change?
I do not know how to do I Kies hack, but its possible to use newer firmwares right? Any advice on how to do this?
Alternatively, should I update to JP6, and apply a lag fix? if so, which one should I use?
All advice is welcome!
I think you want to stay original because of warrenty reasons, right?
But.. ich you want to use a lagfix, you have to root your phone. And this is like flashing an unofficial firmware also a reason for loosing your waranty.
so if you want to stay officially, you can only update via kies without hack, or you can just try a factoryreset from the recovery menu.
With all other methods of getting a new firmware to your device, you may loose your waranty.. This is discussed very often here, because in a case of a hardware-defect your waranty is okay afaik, also if you flash an unofficial software.
If you want to know more, search the forum for waranty...
Lets say you lagfix 2.2 with some kernel like voodoo nothing else.
Then you disable the lagfix and then update to 2.2.1 using kies when it comes out.
Kies will give you a completely new flash.
Isn't it very unlikely that Samsung will pick up on your modifications now?
Mate, I am on an O2 UK contract and I was on JP5 before upgrading to JP6 in January with an O2U product code. But I never had any of the 15 minute boot problems you're talking about, nor was the odd bit of lag a real problem. Since then I got tired waiting for an O2 UK 2.2.1 upgrade, so I used the Kies hack to upgrade to JPY with a XEU product code. I know I might be technically violating my O2 warranty, but I can always flash back to JP6 via the Kies hack if I need to send the phone for repair, providing it's not totally dead in which case I'd probably report it accidentally lost under my phone insurance.
Really sorry to post something which im sure has been done before but from what i've found here I can't properly interpret the details of what is to be done.
Basically I upgraded to Android 2.2 on my Galaxy S 19000 in December using a guide online (forget where sorry) but I want to revert back to my stock ROM as to enable Samsung Kies updating. Im in Australia. I have no mods or anything installed.
Sorry for being so vague, if I need to post certain details about my phone then i'l be happy to, just unsure of what you might need from me.
Also i've been trying to follow the guide here "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751639&page=19" but I can't follow it properly as i'm a bit thick.
The rom that will update is the one that came with the phone . Kies will look for the phones product code hardware ID etc then update .
If you do not have the original Kies cannot update .
You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
jje
That is incorrect. You do not need the rom that the phone was shipped with.
I've flashed from custom roms and back to stock numerous times. Choose one of the 2.1 stick roms from samfirmwares.com. Flash using odin using a 512 pit file and repartition ticked if using the 3 file flashing option. kies will then quite happily upgrade to the latest rom.
There are flashing instructions and all software and firmware on samfirmware.com
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, Froyo 2.2.1, Darky's v9.3, Voodoo 5.4.1
But thats not the rom that came with the phone thats the stock Samsung rom BEFORE its handed to the network/phone provider .
AS I SAID
You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
jje
JJEgan said:
But thats not the rom that came with the phone thats the stock Samsung rom BEFORE its handed to the network/phone provider .
AS I SAID
You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
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but does it matter?
you can say you made a kies-update. -ther's nothin illegal with it.
OP said he wanted to revert back .
My phones warranty is invalid as i do not have the firmware supplied by the provider of the phone and i suspect that is true for all branded models .
Its up to the warranty provider where the phone was bought to accept non standard firmware on the phone or not . Mine refused point blank and even showed the instructions from Samsung reference warranty claims with non standard firmware and the tech went as far as to say that his company who are the seller of the phone and responsible for warranty will not repair any phone that does not have their branded firmware on it .
Thats what i always presume when answering >> i want to go back to stock >.that the OP requires to return to the firmware that came with the phone to safeguard warranty .As they also have no backup of the original firmware .
jje
But by flashing 2.1 you are able to then flash to the most current stock firmware as released by your provider. That's the whole point
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, Froyo 2.2.1, Darky's v9.3, Voodoo 5.4.1
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But by flashing 2.1 you are able to then flash to the most current stock firmware as released by your provider. That's the whole point
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, Froyo 2.2.1, Darky's v9.3, Voodoo 5.4.1
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You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
+ yes if its accepted by Kies and for a number of users it has not and thats why Kies Registry patcher was used .
Stock samsung eclair rom failed to be accepted by Kies when i did exactly as you are suggesting . It required a spoofed Kies registry etc to get the update .
That is something i understand no longer works .
jje
Sorry but most of what you say just isn't true. If you flash to fw that predates your original fw and had the correct region code you can quite happily then use kies to upgrade to the current fw for your region. This is not detectable and cannot invalidate you warranty. So flash to ANY early fw, then let kies legally upgrade you - simple. Please don't peddle supposition as fact. And yes I've done this numerous times, and yes my phone had been back for an unrelated repair without warranty problems
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Lets get a few things straight:
If its about warranty, most shops/centers want the firmware selected by kies, I know examples of people with kies software via a registry hack that where denied because it wasn't the right region.
Kies is still considered to be safer than Odin, although I never had trouble with Odin.
Again if you want if it for warranty just update your firmware with kies, alternatively you can check the latest version for you country/operator and download and flash the right firmware from sammiefirmware.
@stitch
exactly
Just use SpoofFW and flash normaly with kies...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959806
The registry hack doesn't work with kies2.0.
Ok so i would like to update my galaxy to 2.3 gingerbread official using keis.
I live in Australia and based on what i have read the update should be out on my model of galaxy. When i plug my phone into keis it is saying i have the latest firmware. I have done some reading up on this and if i am correct some of the hacks and things i have done to my phone could cause it not to be able to update and i would like to know if this is true and how i can fix this.
Things i have done:
- I am currently running 2.2 froyo
- I have voodoo lagfix and soundfix installed.
- I used sgs tools from market to use the optus apps which came with my phone that where unusable since i was with virgin.
- I applied a 3 button fix i found as well so i could update voodoo easier. But in the end i just used Odin.
One thing i read was that i have to restore the system apps to update it. which i have done with all accept one but the .apk backup for it is not working so i cannot. Will i have to use Odin and revert back to the original firmware and start again? Or is there something i can do from here?
Short answer- You can't.
Gingerbread isn't out officially anywhere at present (there was a brief period where it was out on Kies for Scandinavia- hence all the semi-official "leaked" roms).
On past performance we're likely to be waiting a fair while here in Oz- once Official GB Roms come out from Samsung you then have to wait for all the local carriers to add their garbage to it (and - according to them- "test" it) before it gets released on kies. I'd bite the bullet and just grab a nice rom from here.
Remember if you do decide to wait for the official update, you will have to downgrade to stock for kies to recognise your right to an upgrade.
+ 120 to that NO upgrade to 2.3.3 YET .
All upgrades are unofficial .When Kies has your upgrade it upgrades
Then before update undo lagfix .
Or to be really safe reinstall your original saved rom the one you saved before you started messing with the phone .
jje
I think using odin to flash a stock rom back before updating by kies would be safe way
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I think using odin to flash a stock rom back before updating by kies would be safe way
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Depends Kies does not recognize stock rom as product code etc dont match = no update through Kies . Stock is not network supplied firmware as original .
jje
JJEgan said:
Or to be really safe reinstall your original saved rom the one you saved before you started messing with the phone .
jje
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Lets just say I'm a total wanker and I didn't save my original rom. Am i stuck using custom roms from now?
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Lets just say I'm a total wanker and I didn't save my original rom. Am i stuck using custom roms from now?
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pretty much, unless some one has official firmware
I can't seem to find the factoryfs.rfs file for AT&T Android 2.2 Froyo UCK.B1 . I am returning a phone for bad buttons and I would like to flash back to stock. The Odin3 one-click is missing some software and I'd like to just flash it back to stock.
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I can't seem to find the factoryfs.rfs file for AT&T Android 2.2 Froyo UCK.B1 . I am returning a phone for bad buttons and I would like to flash back to stock. The Odin3 one-click is missing some software and I'd like to just flash it back to stock.
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can you flash jf6 with odin full and use kies to update to kb1?
uploading now. all you had to do was email me
just a Q...
what is one-click missing?
Done and done
Sent from my atrix
I have the filesystem extracted to my computer from this phone when I got it....
I'm trying to see the differences... There were 3 full pages of apps in the KB1 release whereas Odin3 1 click had only 2.5 pages.
GalaxySSupport.apk
WHERE_Samsung_GT-I900_Vegas_EN
It was some silly stuff.
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I have the filesystem extracted to my computer from this phone when I got it....
I'm trying to see the differences... There were 3 full pages of apps in the KB1 release whereas Odin3 1 click had only 2.5 pages.
GalaxySSupport.apk
WHERE_Samsung_GT-I900_Vegas_EN
It was some silly stuff.
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thats because ODIN one click jf6 is 2.1 .... its not 2.2. the only one click for 2.2 is the leaked JI6 from way back when.....
I used the 2.2 version from DesignGears. DesignGears should release another one for 2.2 with an updated factoryfs, since his last release is not a 1-click back to stock, but a 1-click development release.
those would be odin packages, not one-clicks.. there is only one one-click..
Can you link to this one-click?
I know of Odin3 one-click for 2.1 and 2.2, and Super-one-click.
DG cant make a new one click. one click is closed source.. he posted this but didnt make it. All odin3 programs are from samsung.
Here is the one the only Odin3 one-click downloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
the other stock flashes he posted are for " Odin3 " flashing utility and are internal betas from samsung firmware site.
not trying to be a smart ass... but..
note how you have to click PDA select file..., PIT select file.., and START.. (its a couple more than one click)
and super one click thats for rooting, and not odin...
oh ya you are a linux guy, you dont mess with odin just the packages!
the odin "one-click" is a flasher with the ATT 2.1 stock built into the installer. all nicely closed (sourced) up! the whole exe is 160mb or so...
and the odin3 flasher util there is versions 1.0 thru 1.82 (i have 5 versions) as far as i know now
^^ The only standard odin3 version you should use on the Captivate is 1.7. Their versioning system is by phone model. They make a new version per phone.
Here is designgear's 2.1 release of Odin3 1-click: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Here is designgear's 2.2 release of Odin3 1-click: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797282
The 2.1 release is JF6. The 2.2 release is JI6. I assume he has source, or a friend who works at Samsung... However, JI6 was basically a beta version so why would Samsung release a 1-click?
I prefer to use heimdall for flashing though. It's open source, and safer as 1-clicks will modify the partition information tables, primitave bootloader and both secondary bootloaders... Those are the things that brick phones.
i stand corrected...
oh no sh!t didnt know about the beta... lets keep that quiet to not confuse the noobs.
and the other versions of odin work just fine for me, .81 and .82 have the option to flash bootloaders separately, but never used it..
flashed with .82 the past 2 nights i semi bricked trying to change my params.lfs
but i have read somewhere designgears telling people he does not have the source and cannot modify or edit the one-click,
hes been asked a million times "can you make a new one click for this...." (mosty froyo when it came out...)
everytime he or someone else says the same thing. "cant its closed source from samsung"
dunno how he got the beta though.... unless hes covering for somebody..
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i stand corrected...
oh no sh!t didnt know about the beta... lets keep that quiet to not confuse the noobs.
and the other versions of odin work just fine for me, .81 and .82 have the option to flash bootloaders separately, but never used it..
flashed with .82 the past 2 nights i semi bricked trying to change my params.lfs
but i have read somewhere designgears telling people he does not have the source and cannot modify or edit the one-click,
hes been asked a million times "can you make a new one click for this...." (mosty froyo when it came out...)
everytime he or someone else says the same thing. "cant its closed source from samsung"
dunno how he got the beta though.... unless hes covering for somebody..
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Oh man Tru admits he has been corrected haha kidding bud.
Although, nice read. Thanks guyz, got to learn a bunch
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^^ The only standard odin3 version you should use on the Captivate is 1.7. Their versioning system is by phone model. They make a new version per phone.
Here is designgear's 2.1 release of Odin3 1-click: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Here is designgear's 2.2 release of Odin3 1-click: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797282
The 2.1 release is JF6. The 2.2 release is JI6. I assume he has source, or a friend who works at Samsung... However, JI6 was basically a beta version so why would Samsung release a 1-click?
I prefer to use heimdall for flashing though. It's open source, and safer as 1-clicks will modify the partition information tables, primitave bootloader and both secondary bootloaders... Those are the things that brick phones.
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this is off topic but i have been using linux and it is all that is on my pc right now. i have win7 in a virtual machine but there must be a linux package missing that i used to have because i can only get the phone to pass throught to the virtual machine for kies in mtp mode. i used to be able to mount it to the virtual machine in any mode on an older install of mint 9. i am having issued with other devices too, it seems the whole system to mount devices has changed and i cant play some audio cd's. there is no fstab reference and the mount folder is empty, there is now a media folder that is empty untill something is mounted like a dvd.
i can live with the issues above if you cant help the linux forums are full of posts like mine with mount issues for cd's and advice that doesnt work relating to fstab so im not expecting a quick answer.
i do however need a way to flash the phone and have never compiled an application from source. what will i need for heimdal? and could you pm me with a brief explaination? or is it something that you'd have to walk me through?