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i posted something for help and never got a reply, also i have went back alot of pages and a lot of people who are new and posted for help have received none what so ever. why is that?
chris
It might be the nature of the question or not enough info to allow someone to compose an answer without asking a question in response.
I'm hardly an old-timer around here and have found the site quite helpful and have gotten response to my questions.
its fairly easy to ask for more info tho? but it was just a question i wasnt getting on anyones back or that. i am a total newbie at these phones and need as much help as i can get to use it to its full potential
chris
I'm new here too. Asked a question, got an answer. Look at your question and two things trike me. Its a bit vague and its something I expect you could find out by searching these forums and the rest of the net.
I find that if you help yourself - by finding out as much as you can first, maybe trying a few things and having them fail - then people are far more willing to help you.
General rule of the board No.79231 - "Don't reply to anyone who spells theme incorrectly" ;-)
Seriously, it's probably because you asked a question that has been asked so many times that it is obvious you have not shown any effort by doing a search yourself.
Tip try a search for corporate AND install. I'm not sure if it is exactly the same method as on the Alpine and I'm not going to search for you I'm afraid.
yea i understand that guys, and i have searched and found a load of stuff just do not have a clue what to download theres that many.
oh an come on one typo :lol:
chris
So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
OK heres what you asked:
got my XDA yesterday an was told to wipe the o2 software an its speeds up the phone more, also looking for the XP theam for it. and how to update and install etc etc? first time av had a phone like th ...
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See first thing I noticed - everything you asked in this post can be found by just searching the forum. Themes [I assume you do mean themes] can be found by a simple google search. How to install on the XDA[is that a phone?] can be found in the users manual. Upgrading the ROM might be something you wanna come back to once you know your phone a little better. Live with it a little while...
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So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
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dont get ratty dude. i asked a question thats all. other guys have explaned and i understand i should hvae searched abit more etc etc.
chris267 said:
dkb218 said:
So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
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dont get ratty dude. i asked a question thats all. other guys have explaned and i understand i should hvae searched abit more etc etc.
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Me, Get ratty? Perish the thought. Me getting ratty would be like me saying something like, oh, I don't know - "Listen you little twit!!! Try the fricken search button!!!" But I didn't say that. I tried to offer you some help. Take it or leave it!!!
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
chris267 said:
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
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Thats so much better....
1. I take it you mean the ROM. You don't wanna delete the OS. You wanna upgrade it. I use the MDA/Wizard so I'm not to sure about the upgrade for the mini but I'm sure someone has cooked one by know. Again. Just search for "Mini s Rom upgrade."
2. Once you find the upgrade, it'll tell you how to install it. Read that post carefully. No since bricken the thing.
3. Search for themes. I use www.pdagold.com and a few others.
4. No Chris, how would I know what would interest you? I mean I good but mind reading isn't something I've mastered just yet - close but still not 100%. PDA gold offers some freeware. Check them out...
dkb218 said:
chris267 said:
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
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Thats so much better....
1. I take it you mean the ROM. You don't wanna delete the OS. You wanna upgrade it. I use the MDA/Wizard so I'm not to sure about the upgrade for the mini but I'm sure someone has cooked one by know. Again. Just search for "Mini s Rom upgrade."
2. Once you find the upgrade, it'll tell you how to install it. Read that post carefully. No since bricken the thing.
3. Search for themes. I use www.pdagold.com and a few others.
4. No Chris, how would I know what would interest you? I mean I good but mind reading isn't something I've mastered just yet - close but still not 100%. PDA gold offers some freeware. Check them out...
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cheers dude al start searching for that stuff.
i threw that 4th question in for good luck lol, but i will check them out. thanks for your help and i will let you know how i get on
cheers
chris
chris267:
People do help newbies, and that's part of the job. I'm getting worried by the number of people saying that we don't help newbies. We were all one once, but for God, I suppose (I guess that's what he was doing for the first 5 days, blinging up his phone!)
Anyway, I don't know anything about the o2 stuff. I've got an o2 phone, but basically reset my phone before it installed anything from the extended rom. This basically means, extended slowness. You can then pick and choose what to install to customise your phone, resulting in a faster phone.
Theme and things: I suggest you have a look through this thread for ideas
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44560&highlight=start
Many people recommend Wisbar, a customisation program to change the look of the phone. It's heavy, uses a lot of memory, but looks good.
Have a look through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=57926&highlight=software
There are many similar threads on the board, but my recommendations are, install SmallMenu, gsfinder, (and for me, VJOkButt). Anything else is cosmetic or optional, these 2/3 are essential.
V
1. to remove it try doing a hard reset, then boot up in coproate mode and enter 0506.Failing that to temporarily remove it go to start->settings->remove programs and remove O2ActiveUI. This will only make it go until your next hard reset. If you want to get rid of it another way try removing the file from the startup by: fileexplorer /windows/startup remove the program called o2 startup and do a soft reset.
2.no prgrams needed
3.you need to get wisbar advance forst, then get the xp theme on that and it should work
4. get a program called spb pocket plus, great little app and tcmp movie player too is good after that it's down to personal preference
Try www.freewareppc.com for lots of freeware.
hahaha
1. How to install Windows XP on my Wizard?
2. Where to download 3mpx patch for my camera?
3. And I need FM-radio patch too. May be it in AKU 3.5?
4. How to double screen resolution to 640x480?
5. And finally: how to install ASQ* Filter for this forum?
*ASQ = Another Stupid Question
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i posted something for help and never got a reply, also i have went back alot of pages and a lot of people who are new and posted for help have received none what so ever. why is that?
chris
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Sorry about your Feelings Chris.
I felt the same a few days back when I joined this forum.
But People who scorned at me were probably those who had never even heard about the forums I am Moderating on; (these forums have nothing to do with XDA developement however) But I can assure them that had they posted anything "seemingly stupid" on those forums I would have gladly helped them.
Vijay Was extremely helpful in explaining to me the way the world runs and the Way THIS forum Runs (excuse the caps).
He came to my rescue and set things right about it and I am glad that he is here as are some other members who have been very much helpful.
This forum is a Great place for newcomers as well as for experts.
At first if you dont understand things u might feel confused; but later on as you go thru the posts......things become clear.
At least they did for me.
I have read your posts and what you write was, what I felt just 2 weeks back when I joined, Only I took it all in my stride.
Chris maybe you had the guts to speak it out loud..
So in a way you are better that me Chris !!
Please keep on searching for your answers here on xda-dev and I am sure you shall go a long way.
In case there is ever anything I can do to help you out simply whisper...
(im me)
I have posted a reply to your queries for O2 default software removing and I have posted a few Today skins (XP type)
regards....and have fun with your New Set !!
The skins are availble here :arrow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=13780
jeasbe'
(Simply a newbie like you )
jeasbe: I hope that you meant that sincerely, because I just read through my posts to you and I always sound like I'm a real idiot! I'm not generally such a d*ck, but I was relatively recently made a moderator, and my view is this:
I love this forum; I refresh all day, I wrote an RSS scraper for it, and post randomly all through the day. I try to keep the board as enjoyable for others as it is for me. I don't like slapping anyone down, because who am I? But sometimes, I think people forget that we're all people with brains and familes and feelings, not just meaningless posts on a forum.
So really, I mean it, if anyone gives anyone a hard time, PM me and I'll see if it's a legitimate complaint. If I can help, I'll probably end up answering a post at some point anyway, because I can't stop :shock:
Again jeasbe, apologies for sounding curt with you before, but as you can see from the above thread, people were getting out of hand and that irritated me!
V
vijay555 said:
jeasbe: I hope that you meant that sincerely, because I just read through my posts to you and I always sound like I'm a real idiot! I'm not generally such a d*ck, but I was relatively recently made a moderator, and my view is this:
I love this forum; I refresh all day, I wrote an RSS scraper for it, and post randomly all through the day. I try to keep the board as enjoyable for others as it is for me. I don't like slapping anyone down, because who am I?................
Again jeasbe, apologies for sounding curt with you before, but as you can see from the above thread, people were getting out of hand and that irritated me!
V
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THE GREATEST of all Men Underestimate themselves and Vijay is Far too Modest !!
dude its maybe a american thing i think.... i got treated the same on mp3car forum... and there mostly yanks too...
dont worry bout it....
i do kinda see ehere there comming from though.... I guess if u sit watching same forum all the time would start to annoy u that kept getting the same old questions asked...
I personaly got 2 replys... so did pretty well... although... still cant get rid of flipping message sent tone
I'm sure it's been covered in a thread but I'm not able to find it so would appreciate someone explaining the following......
Is it possible to flash my bog standard M700 with the latest HTC ROM from their website?
I've been given a copy but I couldn't download it because of the Orange IMEI number would not resolve. Presumably there are no issues due to this and it will work just fine?
Lastly, has anyone written a step by step idiot guide to doing this? If not could someone please reply and tell me? I'm not all that techy with ROMs but can am OK with PCs and registry stuff etc.
Many thanks in advance!!
You're right it has been covered ;-), HOWEVER.....
NO you cannt use the HTC version on the Orange M700, it's just for the HTC branded phones. SO now relax and get a cooked version... Either MUN-RUS OR LVSW's are good. I personally have the LVSW version......
Look for it in the Trinity WM6 forum.
In the first post is ALL the software you need, grab all 3 bits of software, apply them in order as listed in the instructions. And thats it, shiney new WM6 M700.... however remeber after you do this to remake all the MMS settings etc etc otherwise Photo Messaging etc etc wont work BUT on Oranges' web site there is a "me Proof" guide to putting it right ;-)
Thats it, go get'em fella
Thanks, Just out of interest, why won't the HTC ROM work, after all it's still an HTC device!
Being lazy... do you have the link to the post please?
So you found this site, BUT cannt within this site find the Trinity Mobile 6 Forum or read the very first 2 posts in there?
Get a grip ;-)
As for the HTC thing... guess it's to stop people taking thier software off them and using it elsewhere, and all the troubles that entails with licsencing etc, ALSO dont forget Orange "Value Add" to the phone (brand the day lights out of it ;-) )
Yes found the link!! Just didn't think it was that obvious so wasn't looking at the top! Dohh!
What's Value Add?
Can anyone point me toward instructions on how to extract or backup my exiting Orange M700 ROM in can the upgrade goes pear shapped?
Still a little confused as to why the HTC ROM will not work. Can someone explain properly please?
It is all explained on the forums if, as deech says you "get a grip"
Do a search.
The reason upgrading will not work is mentioned in this the upgrade forum if you look. If you can't even look for it I'm not sure you'll understand the information though as it would involve thinking.
The way to backup a rom is also mentioned in this forum. In fact if you could be bothered to search you could quite easily find one that's already been made by one of the members of this forum in this forum section. It's even on this first page of this upgrade forum.
I don't quite agree with Deech though. I say you should get off your lazy arse and actually look for the information you want rather than just expecting everyone to point out information that's right in front of your eyes if you just look.
Sorry to flame but it drives me nuts that people can be so lazy and expect everyone else to find the information for them.
Value Add..... all those shiney little things that Orange and Vodafone etc add to the basic software, Like the WAP portal, Today Pages, etc etc, a straight HTC ROM (or Nokia, or Motorloa) ROM is very plain and boring, but often works sooo much better than that provided by the Mobile Company after they have "tinkered" with it, hence Value Added.
I agree though you shouldnt be re-flashing your phone if you cannt work the search button and read and FULLY understand what the hell is happening, and how to make things right IF they go wrong ;-)
If you know ehere something is it take 10 seconds to actually be helpful and tell someone whos asks in a polite manner!!
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
Here's what you do. Download the official HTC ROM and try flashing your phone with it, then you might actually believe us when we tell you that you can't flash your phone with it. The official reason that you can't use it on your phone is because your phone isn't actually an HTC phone, it's an Orange SPV M700. Or so they'll have you believe.
I understand the difference between a half" Whitty and a half" UNC. One's a Whitty and one's a UNC, easy
Read the forums, then ask questions.
Peace,
BS...
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Excuse me all overe the place BUT... I've just trawled through here and can't find anywhere that says the M700 cannot be flashed with the latest Trinity ROM from HTC, and the reasons why.
Am I right?
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Hi m8, Looks like you're in need of a little friendly advice, so here goes!
Despite what they're all telling you in this thread, you *CAN* quite easily flash the latest HTC Trinity ROM to your M700... You will first need to unlock your phone OR use the SoftSPL method described in this thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
Unfortunately, you will need to educate yourself a little to achieve what you desire and this means READ and UNDESTAND the above thread before you attempt anything!
All the ROM's you could ever wish for are available through this site, here :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_Upgrades
To be even more helpful, the HTC ROM you require is here :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/2296300...1_1_.23.405.2_103_6275_1.38.00.11_108_GPS.exe
(Looking at one of your other help question threads, it looks like you don't know how to download from Rapidshare, you need to go to the bottom of the above linked page and click the "FREE" button, then choose your download site from the page that follows... enter the security key as shown and dah dah.... a download!)
If you need any further help then PM me, rather than filling up this thread any further!
I hope this helps!
Moz.
MIZZO1628 said:
For example you would have trouble finding the difference between a half inch Whitworth and a half in UNC bolt!! I, on the other hand could tell you in less then 10 seconds.
Thanks for all your help!
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Happy to help, but you ask a question I answered it.
As for showing off about Whit / UNC threads..... dont judge books by thier covers, in real life I am a Marine Engineer serving on some of the largest container ships ever built in a very senior position
Now please please take the time to learn about your phone, read all the fora here, and sort out what it is you want to do. And happy flashing once you pop you cannt stop
LOL. is all I can say. You haven't got a hope in hell.
You CAN'T flash the HTC to an M700 because it's locked to Orange. (Similar to a sim lock... Need that explained? Or can you search now??)
Unlock it and you're laughing. (As Mozzer says)
When I posted last, less than 5 posts below yours asking about backing up the rom was the post containing the last link Mozzer has given you, as I said it was even on the first page of threads, not far to look. A forum search for M700 would have shown it immediately.
Backing up the ROM is much harder than flashing it so would have been out of the question for you.
As for UNC and Whitworth. All I can say is congratulations. You, like pretty much all of us (if not all of us) here, also have knowledge in other fields.
I won't bother trying to make myself look big by quizzing you.
I have to admit I have very little knowledge of these devices and am forever endebted to the members of this forum for the information that is shared here and the work put in by many. The difference between you and me is I don't demand it on a plate.
I can use the search engine and look at Stickies. They're stickied for a reason! That reason is either to warn you of forum regulations OR because they are important.
It's not that hard to look in the Trinity subforum and at the first topic which is a link to the Trinity Wiki. (U know what a wiki is? Or is that not of interest as it's not UNC?)
In the Trinity Upgrading sub forum:
5 posts below this (probably seven when I submit this) is a thread entitled:
Moz's RUU_Trinity_Orange_UK_1.23.61.5_1.38.00.11_GSM_NoI PL_NoSPL.exe
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Wonder what that is..... I admit it's a tad convoluted. But you know you have a trinity which is badged by orange.
Third sticky down is entitled:
SSPL (or flashing any ROM 4 free)
Can't think what that's about. I want to flash my M700 with HTC branded.. Could this help? Naah I'll just save time and get everyone to do it for me.
In the Trinity Mobile 6 forum:
First 2 Stickies.. Wonder what they do. Won't bother looking.
Can anyone tell me how to wipe my arse. I've lost the ability to see and use my hands.
In my last post if you look I gave you some clues as to where you could find what you wanted. I'm on alot of forums and people who can't be arsed to have a look for themselves piss me off. If you'd looked and said I've found this that and the other but I'm not sure about it could someone help explain please I'd have done what I could to explain. But you couldn't even do that!
Many Thanks MOZZER!
At least there is someone here who has taken the time to be helpful.
So Deech... what is the difference i between half inch Whit and UNC?
Hi Mozzerr!
As you were kind enough to help with sensible answers could you please advise on the following:
I feel that the Orange ROM on the M700 seems a bit shaky and the GPS take forever to make a cold start... just a gut feeling it's probably the ROM hence the view to flash it.
In your opinion are there any major advantager to WM6 over the HTC release. I don't use 3G stuff or other advance comms mail etc. just the Phone, Active synce stuff, MP3s, Camera and TomTom via the GPS?
What would you do?
Ah now a sensible question.
WM6 is considerably faster than WM5 when it comes to loading menus and programs (and as far as I've found is completely stable).
There currently appear to be a few people who have a battery drain issue, which I for one have not had and should be ironed out soon.
If you use tomtom there is a cab somewhere (I forget where) in the Windows Mobile 6 forum called ATIfix.cab which fixes the freeze issue (if you get it).
If you're going to go to WM6, which I personally would recommend, you can always flash back to the HTC flash if you don't like it.
TBH other than speed for what you've listed as items you use it'd be more about the look and feel of it, so try both and go with what you're happier with.
I hope that helps.
Just remember you loose all the Orange Branding when you flash, so "IF" you find any of it remotely useful it will disappear, including settings for MMS etc.
The Tom Tom Freeze thing seems pretty common, mine idi it big time, but everything else is nicer, faster and smoother.
WM6 is..... nice and well worth it
There is a cab on the forums with all the MMS setting on this forum. I think I linked relinked it somewhere in the Mobile 6 forum, plus some people have extracted several of the orange programs and posted them.
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
The original rom in my tilt was very slow. I flashed my kaiser with one of Dutty's roms and its now much faster and already has most of the software I need already installed.
I like Duttys but Slueth has been the best for me so far.
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Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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If you really want to let the true geek in you out to play. Try them all. And I will see you at the NExt Flashers Anon Meeting.
hehe,
I appreciate all the advice.
I already have had a bit of a look around the forums now all I need to do is figure out which roms are where and then I'll start trying stuff out... thanks guys
Edit: Also, I have never actually flashed a smartphone before, I bow to those of you who have been in the "business" for a while, but me thinks I might need a bit more time to learn... the thing is, what sort of chance do you think there is that the whole process will drive me crazy? Seems a lil complicated, but doable so far. Just need to understand what all the various different things are for. (I.e. why radios aren't included in roms, and what they are actually for ..yaeh, im THAT noobish).
Anyhoo, thanks again fellas.
If you can follow simple intructions then I think you're going to be ok.
I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...
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I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...
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That will cost you some true blue Italian Manicotti.
Edit:
All joking aside, you'll be fine. You have already done more than most by reading the Wiki. Might I also suggest the FAQ Wiki. Have fun and welcome to Rom Flashers Anon.
Gowardo said:
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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Welcome to the flashing club lol.
There is no "best" rom , just find the one that you think is "best" for you.
Yea, the Wiki and Faq here is very noob friendly. I started up as a new ppc user , but It has been so smooth. Most of the flashing trouble can be recover , as long as you dont mess with advance stuff like MTTY .
Try Dutty rom , they are very popular and updated frequently.
make sure you have hard SPL before flashing.
Peeps here are very friendly , as long as you read and research before any question.
OK, i've read enough noob posts looking for help here to know what wikis to read since instead of helping, thats usually the answer. So for starters, I've read:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserIntroductionToROM_Flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904 (GWENI)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 (Kaiser Radios)
Please please help me, I am so confused from all this. I see that the most popular ROM is the Dutty's WM6.1 hybrid, so I was going to try this. But my radio on my tilt says 1.27.14.09. I do not see any of those ROMs with that Radio. Are the radios interchangeable? Believe me when I say I have tried to search, but I guess my searching skills suck. I am confused about what radios go with what and which one I should use. Up until a few moments ago I thought "radio" referred to something you use to listen to music in the car. heh
I've got HardSPL and was on my way to downloading the Dutty ROM but ran into this. I havn't flashed the HardSPL yet. I am concerned abotu all the talk about graphics drivers and slow performance with the camera and sound and was hoping that one of these cooked ROMs took care of that. Will this add the needed graphics drivers to my Tilt?
I know you all are sick of noobs, but I'm really trying and just want to make my Tilt work the best it can. Thanks in advance for all your help. And if this isnt the right forum, please move it to where it belongs. Much thanks!
Shinare said:
OK, i've read enough noob posts looking for help here to know what wikis to read since instead of helping, thats usually the answer. So for starters, I've read:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserIntroductionToROM_Flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904 (GWENI)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 (Kaiser Radios)
Please please help me, I am so confused from all this. I see that the most popular ROM is the Dutty's WM6.1 hybrid, so I was going to try this. But my radio on my tilt says 1.27.14.09. I do not see any of those ROMs with that Radio. Are the radios interchangeable? Believe me when I say I have tried to search, but I guess my searching skills suck. I am confused about what radios go with what and which one I should use. Up until a few moments ago I thought "radio" referred to something you use to listen to music in the car. heh
I've got HardSPL and was on my way to downloading the Dutty ROM but ran into this. I havn't flashed the HardSPL yet. I am concerned abotu all the talk about graphics drivers and slow performance with the camera and sound and was hoping that one of these cooked ROMs took care of that. Will this add the needed graphics drivers to my Tilt?
I know you all are sick of noobs, but I'm really trying and just want to make my Tilt work the best it can. Thanks in advance for all your help. And if this isnt the right forum, please move it to where it belongs. Much thanks!
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1. the radio you have is a WM6.0 radio. It will NOT work with WM6.1 which is what the rom you mentioned is.
2. You definitely need to get HardSPL flashed first. Not jumpslp. ONLY HARDSPL.
3. The video issue for me is minimal if that. I use Coreplayer and the video playback is perfectly fine.
4. The camera will always be weak. Nothing you can do about that without HTC fixing. it.
Hope that answered all you questions.
some rom's only work with some radio's (i think dutty includes compatible roms usually)
the cooked roms are faster than the standard rom so i wouldn't worry about the driver issue (that might be solved real soon anyway)
Thanks thanks! I will look for a ROM with my radio specifically then. That was really throwing me off and was not aware that a WM6.1 would not work with my phone. Will do the HardSPL right now and will look for Coreplayer. Thanks again loads.
OK, question again (sorry) but in Dutty's WM6.0 ROM there is this question and answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361544
Q: I can’t hear any sound after flashing. When I make phone calls I can’t hear the other person either.
A: You need to use a NON-ATT radio. 12.32 is a proven radio. You can find them on the ftp as well.
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Does this mean I can change the radio version and be able to use one of the newer ROMs? I'm just worried that Dutty's WM6 ROM is from January which is older than the Feb. HTC AT&T Tilt Rom I got from the HTC website.
Maybe I should wait since I read the post about new video drivers for HTC phones that should make the phone work better?
Sorry for the confusion.
Radio
1. Yes radios are interchangble
2. Some roms are compatible only with certain types of radios
2. A chef might or might not include a compatible radio. Best is to check in the specific rom thread
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Thanks thanks! I will look for a ROM with my radio specifically then. That was really throwing me off and was not aware that a WM6.1 would not work with my phone. Will do the HardSPL right now and will look for Coreplayer. Thanks again loads.
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You don't need to look for a rom that is compatible with your radio. You can find a 6.1 rom that includes a compatible radio. There are many on this site
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Thanks thanks! I will look for a ROM with my radio specifically then. That was really throwing me off and was not aware that a WM6.1 would not work with my phone. Will do the HardSPL right now and will look for Coreplayer. Thanks again loads.
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WHOA, I think you misunderstood. If you want a 6.1 rom, you just need a 6.1 compatible radio. To make this as painless as possible, I suggest you find a 6.1 rom with the radio included, such as Dutty & Laurentius. Good luck.
It's all in the links you linked and in plain english, but still hard to understand.
These are the ones that are for WM6.1 roms (as mentioned on each listing). You will need to mix and match to see which works best for you and your area. I hope this gives you a better understanding of how to read this. It all came out of the last link you posted..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375 (Kaiser Radios)
1.58.21.23
This Polaris radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.58.25.14
This Polaris radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.58.26.20
This WWE radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds. It will probably crash your phone otherwise.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.64.06.04
This WWE radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds. It will probably crash your phone otherwise.
There are reports that this radio doesn't allow the phone to reset. You have to reset the phone using the stylus.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
1.64.08.21
This UK radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds. It will probably crash your phone otherwise.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
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Ok, I think the muddy water is getting less cloudy, heh. So I need to find a ROM that has a radio with it and it will work... probably. The Radio FAQ says the 1.64.08.21 radio is the best for GPS and best for battery life but has to be used with WM6.1. But it says it is "UK". OK, so I went into that thread and, sparse as it is, people are saying it is a "vodaphone" and "UK" radio. Does this mean that it will only work in the UK with whatever "vodaphone" service? I live in the US and have AT&T service.
So, from what I've learned so far, it looks like I need to get Dutty's hybrid WM6.1 [Apr 29] (I'm assuming hybrid means the radio ROM 1.65.14.06 is included), thats a WWE radio (whatever that means). Because the radio 1.64.08.21 is for the UK I cant use it in the US (another assumption on my part).
So, when I flash it, does that mean its going to automatically work with my AT&T service, or are there some settings somewhere that will let it know what carrier and who I am.
I sure wish you guys could see how confusing this is to a total noob ROM flasher. hehe I sure do appreciate all your help.
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Ok, I think the muddy water is getting less cloudy, heh. So I need to find a ROM that has a radio with it and it will work... probably. .
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You don't HAVE TO find a rom with a radio in it. You have access to all of the radios. Find the rom you like, if it happens to not have the proper radio, then you now know where to get ALL of the 6.1 radios. After that test each one if you can't decide which is best.
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So, when I flash it, does that mean its going to automatically work with my AT&T service, or are there some settings somewhere that will let it know what carrier and who I am..
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It should, but sometimes things don't go the way they are supposed to. Rest assured someone has documented your problem and searching it out will save you.
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I sure wish you guys could see how confusing this is to a total noob ROM flasher. hehe I sure do appreciate all your help.
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As with any noob, I think your fear of the situation blinds you of the obvious. These wikis (as dry as they are) are extremely straight forward. If you start with the understanding that they provide everything you need then you will understand more. I hope.
OK, thanks for all your help. I wish that Radio wiki had a little more fundamental information about radios for us noobs. I mean, until you just told me, I was unaware that you could use any radio with any ROM, which in turn can be used on any kaiser/tilt (I assume). It could also have the steps one would go through to put the new radio in their phone. The advantages and disadvantages of each (assuming there are any since there are so many to choose from), etc. Ya know, whats the differences between WWE, Polaris, UK, etc and should I be concerned about that? Something more robust than just a listing of the different radios, if thats what a noob is going to be pointed to for radio questions. Just from the standpoint of a newbie knowing nothing about any of this and wanting to improve the phone they just got.
Thanks guys for your help. I think I have enough information now to start down the road to flashing my Tilt. And thanks for steering me in the right direction.
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OK, thanks for all your help. I wish that Radio wiki had a little more fundamental information about radios for us noobs. I mean, until you just told me, I was unaware that you could use any radio with any ROM, which in turn can be used on any kaiser/tilt (I assume). It could also have the steps one would go through to put the new radio in their phone. The advantages and disadvantages of each (assuming there are any since there are so many to choose from), etc. Ya know, whats the differences between WWE, Polaris, UK, etc and should I be concerned about that? Something more robust than just a listing of the different radios, if thats what a noob is going to be pointed to for radio questions. Just from the standpoint of a newbie knowing nothing about any of this and wanting to improve the phone they just got.
Thanks guys for your help. I think I have enough information now to start down the road to flashing my Tilt. And thanks for steering me in the right direction.
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It's all in the wiki info for flashing roms.
Q: What is a Radio ROM?
A: The Radio ROM contains the drivers for the communication devices of your phone. Some ROM’s need one or more specific Radio ROM’s to work properly. Usually the chef, who created the ROM recommends a Radio ROM. But don’t mind, if your Radio Rom does not match, you can always flash another without needing to flash the ROM containing the Operating System (OS) again.
You can check the version of your Radio ROM when you click Start > Settings > System > Device Information or booting your device (there will appear three lines of red text. The Radio ROM version is the number after the R:.
You can download Radio ROM's at the xda-developers FTP-Server in the Uploads/Kaiser/Radio-Folder. Username and password are both 'xda'. To install it, download, extract and execute it. Then follow the instructions on your screen. Flashing a Radio does not delete any files on your device's ROM.
To choose the perfect Radio ROM for you check this thread.
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EDIT** sorry I was in a hurry to get this out and it didn't make sense.
Um doesn't it look like more then just the radio? For instance
1.58.21.23
This Polaris radio is from the new windows mobile 6.1 build.
This radio works ONLY with the new 6.1 ROM builds.
Take a look at this thread for more info.
If it was just the radio (as you say) then it would be listed like this
1.58.21.23
Seems like what you just said wasn't there, was there..
I honestly think people are mentally blinded by their fear of the unknown.
i got an extra pair of eyeglasses (hour eyes buy one get one free) let me know if you need one
OK, well, not to be argumentative, but you just pulled information from a whole nother place I assume, since thats not in the radio wiki I was pointed to... sheesh. Its very confusing to someone who doesn't know the layout of this place. Also, the differences in the radios isn't addressed. Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
i got an extra pair of eyeglasses (hour eyes buy one get one free) let me know if you need one
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And way to go making fun of someone who genuinely needs help. Makes you feel big, doesn't it.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
Well first of all, lol you're going to hate me, you should have read the only sticky in the roms forum. When I saw that you linked the GWENI post I assume (yes I know what that means) that it was..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
That faq/gweni that tells you everything you need to know.
Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
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They are the different phones listed on the main forum page (like you had to pick the kaiser phone as the one you wanted) and they are listed in the wiki.
It tells you they were taken from a polaris phone.. It's english.. What else do you want, the frequecy, ohms, etc that it transmits at? There really isn't much more to tell about this specific radio.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
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How hard is it to give someone the answer, literally paste answers they could have found on their own and then deal with them *****ing about it?
Did I just tell you to go read something? No I told you the answer and showed you where it was. I tracked down everything. How did I know where it was? Because I can read english.. This is not the OH LETS HELP THE NOOB site. This is the let the noob help himself site.
Noobs need to understand this place is a library for people interested in XDA gadgets (mainly htc branded) and in a library you can't just walk in and yell out. HELP ME, and then have **** downloaded right into your mind.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
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Why are you sorry, you got every bit of knowledge you needed? What is your freakn deal?
I hope you enjoyed your spoon feeding. You won't get anymore from me.
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Here, let me help you swallow this.
Good Lord man! Did you not see the smile at the end of his/her post. Damn, way too many thin skinned individuals in here lately. Give me a break. The answer to your original qustion has been more than answered and not once were you flamed. Then, someone jockingly offers you a pair of glasses and you lose it. It's better that you "forget it" as you stated and not come back. I even attempted to answer your question, without flaming, might I add, as I normally do when someone asks a ignorant question.
I say good riddance if you cant take a simple joke!!!!!!!!!!eek:
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OK, well, not to be argumentative, but you just pulled information from a whole nother place I assume, since thats not in the radio wiki I was pointed to... sheesh. Its very confusing to someone who doesn't know the layout of this place. Also, the differences in the radios isn't addressed. Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
And way to go making fun of someone who genuinely needs help. Makes you feel big, doesn't it.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
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Good Lord man! Did you not see the smile at the end of his/her post. Damn, way too many thin skinned individuals in here lately. Give me a break. The answer to your original qustion has been more than answered and not once were you flamed. Then, someone jockingly offers you a pair of glasses and you lose it. It's better that you "forget it" as you stated and not come back. I even attempted to answer your question, without flaming, might I add, as I normally do when someone asks a ignorant question.
I say good riddance if you cant take a simple joke!!!!!!!!!!
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OK, well, not to be argumentative, but you just pulled information from a whole nother place I assume, since thats not in the radio wiki I was pointed to... sheesh. Its very confusing to someone who doesn't know the layout of this place. Also, the differences in the radios isn't addressed. Whats a "Polaris", whats a "WWE" etc? And yes, I said its a listing of the radios and what WM they work with. But what does that tell me as a noob? I have no idea what that stuff means.
Take for instance, the guy I just helped. It took me one post to send him to the exact place that answered his exact question. Since I just happened to see that when looking through all the endless wikis and FAQ's and sub threads in them. How hard is it to just point a person who is asking a question to the place that answers it? Why say "Read the wiki."?
It seems its easier to actually help with someone who's asking for it than to argue with them why they don't really need your help, and just go read the wiki.
And way to go making fun of someone who genuinely needs help. Makes you feel big, doesn't it.
*sigh* just forget it. I'm sorry I asked in the first place. Thanks.
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" Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime." end of story.
If I put the leaked 6.5 ROM on my phone, does anyone know how to go back to the factory software?
Are a stock T-Mobile ROM and radio for the Touch Pro 2 available?
Thanks guys! Just wanna be able to go back if I'm not happy.
If you flash HardSPL then yes, you can go back to 6.1
Ok, great and is there a 6.1 Stock T-Mobile ROM yet?
i dont mean to sound like a jerk at all... we're all noobs (i still am) at some point so with that said there are alot of threads where people ask for the original rom.
if you seach for a lil bit your answer can be found a few places... even google.
folk round here tend to get a lil harsh having to reanswer the same questions, for future reference.
this thread was made recently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5379887
original rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550975
on a side note, i doubt you'll ever go back once you find the ROM that suits you
Hey thanks for the reply. I've been on here for a while and I'm no stranger to forums and forum etiquette so I'm not gonna use being a noob as an excuse for asking that question. But I do think we can get a bit stuffy with rules in forums in general, not just here. I think in the midst of a conversation with someone, to casually inquire about something without necessarily asking to be led by the hand to it, is ok. I'm sorry to have seemed like I was asking to be spoon fed, but I was just having casual conversation with you. With a simple yes, I would have searched myself.
But thanks for going to the trouble of finding those links. I just need to confirm now that that ROM and radio actually are working and not flawed in some way. I gotta figure out who created them and how.
Thanks again!
no problem man, it aint even like that with me... i had the link bookmarked anyway.
i was just trying to save you from being called out later on.
i dont never mind answerin anybodys questions cause i been there lookin for simple answers.
glad to help.
the rom works fine, i flashed it just to be sure everything was a-ok when i first got it.
like i said tho, once you find "your" rom, the links will be useless haha