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ROM topic release name standardization

Following the X1 ROM development subforum (and other ROM subforums) for a while I think it would be better to standardize the topic name for a ROM release to have a better reading on the topic.
My idea is the following:
{ROM's name} v{version} [features short][UC][language][firmware/based on] - other information (date as dd.mm.yyyy)
E.g. in my topic:
nX1i v1.00 [Lite][UC][UK/WWE][R2A] - released! (20.02.2009)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478022It would be a nice clean-up for xda.
What do you think about this?

norti said:
Following the X1 ROM development subforum (and other ROM subforums) for a while I think it would be better to standardize the topic name for a ROM release to have a better reading on the topic.
My idea is the following:
{ROM's name} v{version} [features short][UC][language][firmware/based on] - other information (date as dd.mm.yyyy)
E.g. in my topic:
nX1i v1.00 [Lite][UC][UK/WWE][R2A] - released! (20.02.2009)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478022It would be a nice clean-up for xda.
What do you think about this?
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Date first, makes it easier to see what's going on..

fards said:
Date first, makes it easier to see what's going on..
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Agreed. And that's what I am using now.

Yes, the date of the update is the most important thing, I know, but I think it's the same for our eyes if it is in the first or in the last place, the topic order is always from the newest to the oldest. More important would be if everyone would use the same order in the topic names and the same formatting (as in the date). I know it's hard to accomplish for everyone to follow "rules" but...

iPhone Power User to Android Noob: Few Questions...

Sorry I'm a little noobish when it comes to Androids (trying to come over from an iPhone).
I understand rooting. But... Can you tell me advantages/disadvantages of all these ROMS? Do some have the latest radio firwmare and some don't? I thought I read I could also modify these ROMs as well. I would appreciate some insight. Thanks

legaleye2005 said:
Sorry I'm a little noobish when it comes to Androids (trying to come over from an iPhone).
I understand rooting. But... Can you tell me advantages/disadvantages of all these ROMS? Do some have the latest radio firwmare and some don't? I thought I read I could also modify these ROMs as well. I would appreciate some insight. Thanks
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You can do anything. If you read the forums you will learn a lot more than any 1 person here could ever teach you in one post. Happy reading.
P.s. posts like this are frowned upon around where when you could have searched.

ROMs are just modified versions of the standard firmware the developers that make them bundle certain apps with them and make some slight changes. IIRC they are all rooted.
I think the radio firmware can be updated seperatly as i downloaded the HTC radio directly from the HTC website.

There is a thread here that tries to chart the differences between builds (the name "rom" is kind of a misnomer).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517506
Also, for community ("hacked"/"rooted") builds, they generally don't include the radio. You would update the radio and bootloader separately. The official builds tend to include radio and or bootloader updates.

http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5692
This should help you out with any information on Firmwares, its alot better then a stupid chart.

Just do yourself a favor.. Do not Flash before you read the entire thread. Because you may find your new G1 is a brick.
If you want something or want to upgrade SPL or Recovery or Rom Make sure you competely read the thread you may find that other users that have previously flashed that particular item will give feedback.

Mast3rmatt said:
http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5692
This should help you out with any information on Firmwares, its alot better then a stupid chart.
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that link also links to the same "stupid" chart. btw that chart is great for deciding which build suits your needs the best

I was sorta kindling.....
My thread has all the information and MORE. The chart is helpful but you can't get any helpful links with it. My thread has information/my thoughts/ and updates on how to find the newest firmware.

*slaps himself in the back of the head

Now I have root

Hi every1,
I've just rooted my phone t-mobile(rc7) tested by turning on my phone typing enter reboot then enter which worked, now i have root is there anything i need to do before i put a rom on?
Whatis the best rom to use????
Mod edit : moved to Q&A, please post in corrrect forum.

Hi Mikey. 10

it was nice to meet you, jonnibravo

Hello, Have I done something wrong????

Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ccfpwc6bg
;-)

maxisma said:
Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ccfpwc6bg
;-)
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What is the problem, this so called community I've heard about is not much of a community is it.
There's no need for it at all.
Can someone please offer some real advice.

Ok, here is a real advice:
Please read the tutorials.

I have, but the one I am reading shows an old JF1.41 rom, when I looked at the other roms it says things like only for 36b phones ect..... It's confused me a little because tho I am amature techy I am also extra cautious and dont want to brick my phone.
Would I be ok using CyanogenMod [v3.9.7] && Palm Pre theme [1.8] ported for instance

I think the reason people are being a bit hostile is because you posted a question in the development section. That may seem OTT but there are some days when the whole first page of the development section is filled up with questions.
Before you flash a cupcake ROM (cyanogen, JF) you will need the new radio. I'm not entirely sure if you can flash that radio on RC7 or whether you will need to install a custom ROM first (like JF's RC9) so if someone could clear that up that would be useful. It can be found here. Copy that to your SD, name it update.zip and flash. Then you can flash a Cyanogen or any other cupcake ROM. That particular ROM you were talking about sounds like it was ported to the HTC Magic/Sapphire. Only flash ROMs from the dream section.

Jonnibravo said:
Would I be ok using CyanogenMod [v3.9.7] && Palm Pre theme [1.8] ported for instance
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Hi mate, I wouldnt flash 3.9.7 if you only just rooted your phone, go with the stable v3.6.8.1 first, then use Nandroid recovery to create a backup. Then worse case scenario you can always restore that image if needed.
There's a good reason 3.9.7 is marked as experimental, and there is alot to learn before attempting any Hero roms etc.
If you get stuck with anything feel free to shoot me a PM Im always around and happy to help.
Long time lurker first time poster btw

Thanks guys, I will not post in this section again and sorry to those I have upset, would hve been nice to have been simply told.
Thanks for the help.

lol that was hard as nails
maxisma said:
Look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ccfpwc6bg
;-)
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Wow that was by far the hardest groaned I have ever seen in my few months on xda!

People are just tired of everybody posting in devolpment when there is a q and a section, and when there are 20 to 30 new threads that have already been discussed, the devolpers get annoyed. Go with the stable version of cyanogen's rom, flash the new radio image and get yourself the hard spl, not the special, if you see warnings, run very far away. Install the s a lifesaver

ahem...
I wasn't hostile before, attempting to be civil now.
You posted two questions in the development forum. The first was regarding root. There are numerous tutorials available on this forum and even more via a simple google search. I know this because I read them, learned the process inside and out and successfully rooted my phone within the first hour of owning it. So yeah, I made a joke about a hard working mod having to move your thread... no personal attack so whatever.
Your second question was an open ended request for what are basically opinions. There are a number of great custom roms being developed here on XDA and all of them are unique in their own way. Roms like HERO and Cyan's experimental rom are definitely not for newcomers and the threads posted by their developers clearly state the risks involved in attempting to run them. 15 minutes in the dev forum and you could have made an educated decision on your own. One post in Q&A and you would have gotten much friendlier responses but in the end, you'd still have to choose your own adventure.
Let me make one thing clear...
I'm not a dev. I'm an end user who tries to contribute something useful to this forum and learns a whole bunch in the process. I've offered help to many people via PM and replies in threads (as long as the discussion is on-topic) but over time I've come to the realization that simply handing out information instead of forcing you to find it on your own actually does a disservice to not only the forum, but YOU as a user. So hate on us all you want. I think you'll find that following forum rules in the future will make your experience here a happier one, and snarky comments like yours are better left un-submitted.
To answer your question: I started with JF's 1.5 rom and think it was a great way to gain exposure to the world of custom roms and root. A lot has changed since then and things have actually become a lot easier since cyanogen released his recovery image w/ nandroid and tools like switchrom came out. Its now very easy to hop between roms and there are fewer chances you'll screw something up in the process. Personally, I've been sticking with Cyanogen's roms since 3.4.6, and though there have been some bumps in the road I've had very few issues and am currently working with his 3.9 experimental builds.
Hope you get where I'm coming from, good luck to you in the future.

Recommended ROM

anybody can recommend me a ROM that you feel is the best for you ?
sorry new to blackstone.
btw is there any HD2 clone ROM for blackstone ?
if dont , anyone can recommend the best touchflo 3D 2.5 ?
thanks .

You can make you own decision, the benchmarks are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516190&page=72

I haven't found a ROM that comes anywhere close to this one as yet
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_hd_leo_h...4ec78cb/soft/htc-blackstone-rom?page=3?page=3
its just all works

Jezwick said:
I haven't found a ROM that comes anywhere close to this one as yet
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_hd_leo_h...4ec78cb/soft/htc-blackstone-rom?page=3?page=3
its just all works
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some noob questions ><
so if i going to flash to this ROM , what should i do ?
and is this the latest version of WinMo and touchflo ?
sorry for these kind of question cause never flash a HTC before , just tried before on samsung's .

binqo said:
some noob questions ><
so if i going to flash to this ROM , what should i do ?
and is this the latest version of WinMo and touchflo ?
sorry for these kind of question cause never flash a HTC before , just tried before on samsung's .
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It often is the latest stable software in the ROMs. And another thing.. It's better if you try some roms out. Its not so popular around here to ask about a god rom. It's a matter of taste and so on. Not so nice to other chefs if i, or any one else recommend a specific rom.
Check the thread about how to flash HSPL and just go nuts flashing and testing. Good luck!
Admin, please close.

Before anyone creates a new thread, the basic requirements for common decency would be to read the wiki, forum rules and use the 'search' function.
Now I understand that you are new, but your question(s) have been asked many times before.
FYI, a dummies guide thread exists for flashing. Also to ask an opinionated query is frowned upon in XDA as it creates endless long threads due to everyone having a different opinion. Best advice would be to read first few posts in each rom thread as this generally lists whats in each rom as well as providing a few screenshots of said rom. Then try a few roms to make your own conclusion on whats best for you
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[Q] Rom Help for Quasi Newber

Hello Fam! I have a:
Samsung Captivate SGH I897
Currently running :
Cognition, 2.1.7
I'm looking to Change ROM's and I have a couple questions.
1) What is the best Rom for Battery life that has some cool Graffix/annimations
2) Do I have to Flash my Phone back to Stock before I flash a new ROM?
3)I recently Flashed my phone to Darky's 8.1 Somehow i ended up with the I9000 version and it crashed/bricked my phone. I spent 3+ hours restoring a bricked phone. anyone know a fix or a i897 version of this rom??
I liked what I saw of Darky's 8.1 but I need a stable version or a Rom that is Similar.
All help/Suggestions are greatly appreciated

Nike
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887525

pbclst said:
Nike
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887525
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I dont know what you mean by "Nike", and I already read 90% of that thread and it didn't answer my questions.
but Thanks?

HighSun_Murder said:
Hello Fam! I have a:
Samsung Captivate SGH I897
Currently running :
Cognition, 2.1.7
I'm looking to Change ROM's and I have a couple questions.
1) What is the best Rom for Battery life that has some cool Graffix/annimations
2) Do I have to Flash my Phone back to Stock before I flash a new ROM?
3)I recently Flashed my phone to Darky's 8.1 Somehow i ended up with the I9000 version and it crashed/bricked my phone. I spent 3+ hours restoring a bricked phone. anyone know a fix or a i897 version of this rom??
I liked what I saw of Darky's 8.1 but I need a stable version or a Rom that is Similar.
All help/Suggestions are greatly appreciated
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1. I use serendipity and it has great batterylife and a pretty awesome theme.
2. It's advisable to flash back to stock. You can use my program for this. LINK
3. Don't know anything about Darky's, sorry.

HighSun_Murder said:
I dont know what you mean by "Nike", and I already read 90% of that thread and it didn't answer my questions.
but Thanks?
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i think he intended to direct you to the second post in that thread (which must have fell under the 10% of that thread that you didn't read..sorry couldn't resist a friendly flame) as you are posting your question in the wrong part of the forum.
Rules for posting in Android Development
* If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
* It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
* Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
* If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
* Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
* If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
* Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
* If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
* So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10085368&postcount=2
You should probably familiarize yourself with this as well or your setting yourself up for endless flaming and frustration:
REF] New to XDA? Questions about flashing ROMs? Please read this before posting!
Lately I have seen so many "what rom is best for my first flash" or "Help me decide what rom is best for me" threads and they are POINTLESS! Granted there are an abundance of new and old custom roms, everyone has different experiences and opinions on what rom is best.
So... NOOBS:
If you want to know what rom is best for YOU do the following:
- Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom.
- If you don't know what certain terms in the rom thread mean or affect (ie. kernel, modem, OC/UV, Gps tweaks) locate the search bar in the top right corner of the page or browse through this page
- Once you have decided what rom you want to try out, you need to learn how to flash the rom. Most of the Developers post instructions but they can be confusing to some of the less experienced flashers. nbs11 has posted a thread about how to do this here and Connexion2005 was nice enough to make videos of the general steps: Flashing back to stock using odin3 , 3 Part video series for flashing roms: video 1 , video 2 , video 3
- Now that you know how to choose and flash a rom just try out different roms until you find one that you like and gives you all the features you are looking for.
- If you find the theme of a certain rom ugly or obnoxious, head over to the Captivate themes and apps section and look through different [THEME] threads until you find one that you like. Make sure the theme is compatible with the rom you have just flashed or are planning to flash.
- If you accidentally brick your phone, read How to unbrick the captivate or if that doesn't work, Unbrick the captivate for only $0.99
-Some useful links other members have posted:
One-Click Root - root your captivate in one click!
Build #1010 or above flash back to stock
My hopes of this thread are to save the Captivate general section from becoming a section full of useless threads. So if you are new, please use these steps and do the research to find a Rom that is right for YOU!
Cheers,
Alex
*EDIT* As it seems swedishcancerboi is having a hard time using the search function, here are some simple tips to make your searching easier. If you think there is already a thread that has been created containing the information you desire, under "Search by keyword", try changing the drop down box to "Search titles only". Also, try changing the "sort results by" drop down box to "Relevancy". If that still doesn't work do a google search of "xda (whatever you are looking for)" without the quotes.
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HighSun_Murder said:
I dont know what you mean by "Nike", and I already read 90% of that thread and it didn't answer my questions.
but Thanks?
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Nike - Greek word for victory. Also known as a popular brand of shoes.

Nike... Just do it...
Battery life?
Paragon for me on my particular phone
Graphics/animations? Dunno, not into too much eye candy, but there are themes galore available
I always ODIN to stock before I flash a ROM (Haven't tried the AIO yet, but looks interesting)
As for the Darky issue. Flash back to stock and start over.
You have to expect redirection when you're posting in the wrong forum.

xdahgary said:
Nike - Greek word for victory. Also known as a popular brand of shoes.
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Thank you Capitan Obvious.

I recommend Serendipidity with the Suckerpunch kernal. I've gotten great battery life with that combo also you can some cool animations to add to Serendipidity from the Serendipidity website. And when changing between completely different roms I usaully flash back to stock and do a master reset with odin
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

i recommend you build a jig or buy one online just in case, since you want to use custom rom.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...25272&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_595wt_1139

Duck and grind HighSun, duck and grind.
If you're still in the look-see stage as far as ROMs, there are a few that are well worth trying.
Paragon (my fav)
Serendipity
di11i's
Firebird (under new management so to speak)
That's my order of excellence but don't take my word for it. Flash what you like from reading whats offered and have fun. Follow the steps listed in each and you shouldn't have any issues. While not necessary to ODIN to stock, it's a good idea to get used to it in case you bork your phone and need to exchange it.

The best battery life i have gotten is with darky's 9.2 rom.
Running darky's 9.2