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I may be the only one interested in this, and I know its set for froyo 2.2 and not sure if its possible but is there no way to port this back one version? Maybe make it work for us?
I really like the idea and would be disappointed to have to wait the loooooooooong time before 2.2 is ported to G1.
no it uses the new pushy mc jig from froyo
probably could back port the whole framework, but seems like a wast ogf time to me
atantekeier said:
I may be the only one interested in this, and I know its set for froyo 2.2 and not sure if its possible but is there no way to port this back one version? Maybe make it work for us?
I really like the idea and would be disappointed to have to wait the loooooooooong time before 2.2 is ported to G1.
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How do you know it will be such a long time?
Depending on the code changes between 2.1 and 2.2, it may be little more than trivial to get 2.2 running.
Also, I suggest that the first step required in either backporting or building a whole system would be to actually wait for the availability of the source code. Then we judge what would be a more efficient use of time -- building a whole system or backporting chunks of it.
2.2 will support the ION, so in turn, it will support the Dream. We just have to WAIT for it, people.
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Just a thought: during the google io presentation of google TV they make a presentation of this feature with the google box in 2.1. So I don't know if the sdk or the source code is published but can't we use that to make it working with eclair roms?
PS: here at 1:30
Time is relative here, by the time a new update is released from modders porting it to another much older phone version a new version is almost ready to be released.
This is not a bad thing and Im not talking down about it ether. But was simply asking the question if it would take too much effort to get just that .apk to work for even 2.1 that is now very stable on the G1.
2.2 was just released, and it will probably take a while to get it stable, to the point where 2.0 or 2.1 is now for the G1 anyways.
I just really like the chrome to phone and think its a super idea. Maybe I'm a bit impatient too.
I thought that this should get its own thread. In light of recent events, i am now trying to try to port froyo to the dinc. If anyone is interested...well notify me
YES! Most Def.
I already have one person on my waiting list, so i take it that u want to be on my list, too?
Can you add sense to it...? Of course with the option to run it when you want
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Can you add sense to it...? Of course with the option to run it when you want
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I agree 100%, nothing against the N1, but I would have gotten one if I liked the UI--I had enough of it on the G1, I'm glad to have a very fast sense and would like to keep it with 2.2!
I for one dislike sense. I prefer the stock vanilla ui, but if i can port sense to froyo than i wont hesitate in doing so
si senior.
vanillia Froyo all the way!!
Of course, sense with an official release of Froyo
I think this is a no brainer, most if not all want froyo
I like sense, but I would take it either way
A de-sensed froyo would be great. Even a de-sensed 2.1 would be nice. I really like the vanilla android
i'm definitely interested in some froyo action on my inc
If not full Froyo, at least its version of the gmail app to replace the stock one on the INC...
Vanilla android is awesome. I miss it after coming from the droid.
I've been waiting for froyo since the day I got this phone! So yes, count me in for wanting it!
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You've already got me on the waiting list ;-) keep up the good work!
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Skapunker said:
I think this is a no brainer, most if not all want froyo ...
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I agree, which is why I don't completely understand why it needs it's own thread and why it's in the development section instead of general (since you are pretty much taking a poll).
If you are really going for a 2.2 port, I suggest getting together/talking to already well-known porters/Incredible coders if you aren't already, as a similar task may already be going on and the more the merrier (also faster =p).
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I agree, which is why I don't completely understand why it needs it's own thread and why it's in the development section instead of general (since you are pretty much taking a poll).
If you are really going for a 2.2 port, I suggest getting together/talking to already well-known porters/Incredible coders if you aren't already, as a similar task may already be going on and the more the merrier (also faster =p).
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+1 It's almost like asking if we want root... I doubt too many are hoping to install 2.0 or 1.6 on the phone.
Froyo allows rotation of the main android screens right? I hate that when my Inc is in my car dock(landscape) the main screens never rotate!
So yes, once I can get rooted, I would love Froyo for my Incredible. (I like sense too!)
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Hey rr12106 I would love to have froyo when its ready. Thanks for the effort.
i was just curious if the hero was getting the 2.2 update? doesnt look like much of a difference but im still curious
It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.
lol, let the 2.2 threads begin....
We barely got 2.1.
Im sure after the devs get froyo working, sprint will steal it, mod it slightly, leak it back out to the devs for them to tweak, and us to test, then sprint will release it officially about 6 months later, blaming htc for the hold up and it will still have tons of problems. Then the devs will figure out how to root it and sprint/htc will put out a update almost the next day to patch the root exploit.
Anyone else have a idea?
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It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.
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So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement (har har har oh not funny). Yeah your right we'll probably never see an official release. Unlike tmobile who have said or rumored to say all their phones that can get it will.
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So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement.
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Nope. I would, however, say it would be pretty Xtreme
I would love to see 2.2 on my Hero. Especially because that would mean I could go into Sprint and show them that my Hero is running faster than their EVO
thanks for the feedback guys. yeah i was watching videos of the nexus one running 2.2 and that thing was blazing fast!!!
i sent HTC a message last night asking if the hero was going to get the 2.2 release and this was there response...
(Hello Chris, Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support about your device. Before releasing a ROM update we have to be sure that the software is going to work properly on your hardware and on your carrier’s network. This testing does take some time but will result in an update that is optimized to work on your device and on your carrier’s network. While we want to release software as soon as we can we will only do so once the software has passed our quality standards. At this time we do not have any information about an update for your device. When the update is released it will be announced on HTC.com.)
So basically "We don't feel like it"
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So basically "We don't feel like it"
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yeah basically who needs official anyways. we can do it ourselfs!! lolol
the 2.1s are still buggy... stock or not. i don't even want to think about 2.2 yet.
Only way to fix bugs is with updates.
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This may have already been discussed but I couldn't find anything in the search. Has anyone done this or is it even possible to do? Are there any other ways to get 2.2 with sense on the Hero?
Not possible from evo. Its build for a different processor. Best bet will be when the legend gets there official release and gets ported over.
Q&A, not development.
neuro_genesis said:
Q&A, not development.
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Its a question about development but thanks for the useless comment.
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
thoughtlesskyle said:
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
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and the little birdy on my balcony told me your friend is full of ****!
thoughtlesskyle said:
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
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Except Sprint already stated that the Hero and the Moment aren't getting updates to 2.2
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Its a question about development but thanks for the useless comment.
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Which is why it goes in the Q&A section.... because it's for Questions .... You'll come to understand that we like things orderly around here... Anyway... as been answered, no not possible...
And 2.2 getting to Hero? Hah... no, not happening
Anything is possible. Officially? Probably not. Besides JIT, I cant see it offering anything worthwhile for me personally. I have a computer for junk requiring flash. My hero, currently, is blazing fast and so responsive that Im left thinking about my next touch...my device is always waiting on me.
I want a cdma legend.
Hero won't get an official 2.2 update. Sprint has said so already. That's not to say they won't release an update on August 13, but it won't be 2.2
who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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agreed....
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Hero won't get an official 2.2 update. Sprint has said so already. That's not to say they won't release an update on August 13, but it won't be 2.2
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Knowing Sprint it will be an update back to 1.5.
As far as I know, the closest thing to a fully functional Froyo on the CDMA Hero would be Cyanogenmod 6.
According to this link, the only thing NOT working is the PREVIEW for the camera apps. Otherwise, from what I've read, its an all around stable ROM ready for daily use.. As long as you're not co-dependent on your camera.
I'm thinking of taking the leap today.
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who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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Desire froyo is way to big to be ported. The best chances for a full port of froyo is from a legend build which when it comes out in the next month or so I already know someone who is getting ready for the port. Other than that the home made froyo is all that's gonna work for now.
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As far as I know, the closest thing to a fully functional Froyo on the CDMA Hero would be Cyanogenmod 6.
According to this link, the only thing NOT working is the PREVIEW for the camera apps. Otherwise, from what I've read, its an all around stable ROM ready for daily use.. As long as you're not co-dependent on your camera.
I'm thinking of taking the leap today.
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Been using CM6T4 for over a month as daily... camera preview? Just use camera magic for that and for camcorder... well that's the sacrifice I made to have this phone run waaayyy faster and the battery life last waaayy longer than any other ROM out there
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Which is why it goes in the Q&A section.... because it's for Questions .... You'll come to understand that we like things orderly around here... Anyway... as been answered, no not possible...
And 2.2 getting to Hero? Hah... no, not happening
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Are you serious??? Have you not seen the post for CM6.0.0?
Just so you know, that's Froyo, build FRF91, overclocked to 768mhz. Only thing that doesn't work is flash, b/c it's written for an arm7 processor, not an arm6.
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Are you serious??? Have you not seen the post for CM6.0.0?
Just so you know, that's Froyo, build FRF91, overclocked to 768mhz. Only thing that doesn't work is flash, b/c it's written for an arm7 processor, not an arm6.
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Yes im using FRF91 but I have not seen a reason to upgrade past T4... I am overclocked to 768 and using everything that the new build has.... but again, no reason to upgrade past that.
the new nightly builds have camera preview and camcorder working
When is there going to be any alternate ROMs to run on the Captivate?
All I see are samsung ROMs that can be loaded on the Captivate, and they're all loaded up with crappy samsung touchwiz. Whether its "Cognition" or JF6 or JH7 or JI6, etc. the fact remains that these are all crappy samsung ROMs. Where's all the "openness" that I hear the pro-android crowd pumping day in and day out?
I guess I dont understand much about android, but why is it impossible to just load a purely stock version of the OS on the phone and have it run? I hate touchwiz. I hate the bluetooth stack that samsung put on the phone (no WII-mote gaming). I hate the absolutely ridiculous file system that samsung uses. I hate the fact that it takes 20 seconds to open up the phone dialer.
My dialer opens instantly and i like touchwiz.
But the 2.1 sources are there, if someone wants to build a generic 2.1 they can. I guess if someone really wanted it, they would build it.
It sounds like you would like to commission someone to build a Stock Android 2.1 build for the Captivate. You could try to motivate someone with a cash bounty.
Why not search the forum and see what is available for the phone instead of complaining. Roms are available that remove touchwiz and boatwear. Or get a phone that would suit you more since learning about android and the captivate don't work well for you.
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alphadog00 said:
My dialer opens instantly and i like touchwiz.
But the 2.1 sources are there, if someone wants to build a generic 2.1 they can. I guess if someone really wanted it, they would build it.
It sounds like you would like to commission someone to build a Stock Android 2.1 build for the Captivate. You could try to motivate someone with a cash bounty.
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Yea, I would love a stock 2.1 or 2.2. Someone in the developer forum tried building an AOSP 2.1 but they stopped. They put out a version 0.1 and it had so much wrong with it, it was worthless. Things like having voice while on a call or being able to use data are pretty important things on a smartphone.
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Yea, I would love a stock 2.1 or 2.2. Someone in the developer forum tried building an AOSP 2.1 but they stopped. They put out a version 0.1 and it had so much wrong with it, it was worthless. Things like having voice while on a call or being able to use data are pretty important things on a smartphone.
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There is work being done right now on getting as close to aosp as they can......search cde aosp or browse the dev forum.
Also there are i9000 reorient roms you can run
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The devs are working on a Froyo AOSP rom. I'm sure it will be finalized and released for general consumption once the 2.2 source code is released.
You won't see any "true" AOSP builds until the devs can get the source from Samsung and find out how intertwined TW is integrated with the OS.
So you can flash to what is available currently or wait till early 2011 for the "final" ROMS to start coming out of the woodwork. Samsung announced that 2.2 is slowly rolling out to all Samsung Galaxy S devices this Oct... in Europe - so I don't think the Captivate crowd will see the update until late Nov/Dec of this year.
I know Design Gears is attempting to build one that is as close as your going to get to one right now. He almost has a "stable" build going but it is still being tweaked.
But.. the latest 2.2 Cognition build currently has TW removed and Launcher Pro installed. It isn't perfect but it is close to what you are looking for. I prefer .6 and kept TW on as the phone seems to rely on it pretty heavily for functionality. Only issue I get is a lag spike here and there but otherwise it runs great.