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This will drive me crazy. I have had the button above the volume mapped to Voice Command ever since I can remember. Now for the Tilt, it is mapped to Push to talk which I will never, ever use and the button mapping does not allow you to reassign it. Does anyone know if this is possible with any of the button manager programs? Do I need to flash the Kaiser ROM for this?
Also, the 8125 had a feature where you held this button down and it would swap the sound over to vibrate. If anyone knows how to get this working on the Kaiser, I highly recommend it. Beats having to pull the phone out of the holster/case to silence it, especially in a meeting.
Search for the answer.... It is here.
tried searching on push to talk. searching on buttons brings back a ton of results, none of which are specific to this particular problem. any suggestions on where to search and for what term or phrase?
Update, I found one... over in the hermes forum. This would be a good addition to the cab list sticky now that more folks are getting the AT&T ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279585&highlight=push+to+talk+map
I'll update after I have tried it on the Tilt
PTTFix work fine per the tread reference above but even though it allows you to assign a program to press and hold, there is no program "per se" to enact the vibrate setting. I do see this option on the HTC Home Screen though so maybe it is possible to create a shortcut in the Program Files directory and call it indirectly. I'll try this later when I have some time, but if anyone else gets to it first, please do share. TIA
this will do it for you.
I was never a fan of PTT anyway... Thanks for the CAB Tim. Works like a charm. For those curious, the option to select Vibra switch will be found under Settings > Buttons. Remap Button 6 to Vibra (Switch).
Spoke too soon. The PTTFix cab showed the buttons under the setting window, but after setting them, it still brought up the PTT screen. I though perhaps it needed a soft reset, and after doing so the ability to remap the PTT button disappeared.
isdereks, did you try this on the Tilt or the Kaiser? I am thinking the latter, since the PTTFix.cab shows the PTT button as a second button 5. Perhaps this is part of the problem of why it looks like it allows the setting, but doesn't actually work.
Bummer. I am quite disappointed. On top of all the bloatware, you get a button that launches an app that immediately errors out as I am not a PTT subscriber. HTC and MS should be pissed that AT&T is making the iPhone look like a clear winner. Pretty soon Apple will be running comercials with the big bloated guy for the iPhone too.
Sorry forgot to mention that I did this on the Kaiser.
yeah the new PTTFix did not work on my tilt, but worked great on my 8525. I hope this gets updated for the tilt.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334759
yeah tried all that and the reg settings do not stay after phone is shut down.
Worked for me. You have to read the whole post.
For my own purposes as well, here are the consolidated steps to take. Until someone improves on this, I keep all this stuff in a directory so I can reconfigure my device as necessary. Here goes...
I think the trick is the PTT settings take precedence when the device boots up so delete the PTT registry settings under HKLM/Services/PTT. Delete the whole sub tree, then
From HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys
Add a new key called "40C6"
Add a string under the key called "Name" with the value "Button 6"
Add a new key called "40C7"
Add a string under this key called "Name" with the value "Button 6 (hold)"
(Note, do not enter the quotes, thare are to delimit what belongs in the registry entry)
Go to the Buttons settings and assign a program to the new entries. I di Voice Dial and Vibra (Switch) from the link earlier in the this post.
Do a soft reset which will remove the PTT settings from the buffer and enable your key changes.
Thanks for all the help.
I'd say the only caveat is if you some day want to use the PTT features, it would be a good idea to take an inventory fo what is under the PTT node in the registry.
It worked "GREAT". Thanks and so easy even I could do it
Instead of deleting the "PTT" key, i suggest simply renaming it to "PTTbak". That way you can just rename it back to "PTT" if you ever need to use it.
Thats what i did, and it works fine.
BTW, excellent work everyone. After upgrading to the tilt from the 8525 i lost 2 side buttons (comm manager button and the PTT button)... now i've got at least one back!
Maybe someone could offer a suggestion. For the life of me, I cannot get the reg entries of 40C6 and 40C7 to stick. I am using PHM Registry Editor. I am powering down and back up. Anyone have any suggestions?
Gator5000e said:
Maybe someone could offer a suggestion. For the life of me, I cannot get the reg entries of 40C6 and 40C7 to stick. I am using PHM Registry Editor. I am powering down and back up. Anyone have any suggestions?
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did you delete the ptt key? (or at least rename as was suggested above?)
if you did try using the phone for while after you make the registry changes - run some other programs - then power down
greg
Greg, I renamed it and then nothing would happen. no button map and no PTT action. I am about ready to give up. But I will try your suggestions. Thanks.
NOw I got the PTT action back (the PTT screen pops up) but I cannot get the the button to do anything. I made the hold vibra and the direct push VC. Now nothing happens. Not sure what I did wrong. Not a noob at reg edits and I don't see anything wrong.
Oh well, not that big a deal, but am still open for more suggestions.
i tried renaming the PTT registry key and it didnt work. actually deleting it worked.
REG PTT
After doing the reg posted above the PTT button is free but you will notice after you push it, before the new app assigned to it pops up you will see the ptt screen for a second. What if the phone things you are using the ptt function and not Voice command or Viigo like I am?
Hi,
I've successfully re-mapped the PTT button by following the instructions from this forum. I imagine the same procedure would apply to the small OK button immediately below the jog-wheel, but I don't know where to start. Of course, the button is not present in the Settings/Buttons applet - that would have been too easy.
First, how to disassociate it from its present function (Start Menu/OK)? And once disassociated, what is the button code to enter in the registry?
I tried aebplus, and it sort of works - but the start menu still comes up on the first keypress if invoked in the Today screen.
Any ideas on how to re-map this otherwise useless key?
Thanks,
Mike.
mpd said:
Hi,
I've successfully re-mapped the PTT button by following the instructions from this forum. I imagine the same procedure would apply to the small OK button immediately below the jog-wheel, but I don't know where to start. Of course, the button is not present in the Settings/Buttons applet - that would have been too easy.
First, how to disassociate it from its present function (Start Menu/OK)? And once disassociated, what is the button code to enter in the registry?
I tried aebplus, and it sort of works - but the start menu still comes up on the first keypress if invoked in the Today screen.
Any ideas on how to re-map this otherwise useless key?
Thanks,
Mike.
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yes, i would like to find this out as well because i have PTT assigned to comm manager and voice recorder but now i need one toggle between vibe and ring...would be nice to use this ok button i thing its pretty useless since there is anothe ok button on the front...TIA...
me too!
I also need to change the side "ok" button. Anybody have a solution?
Hello! Care if I do a quick search FOR YOU since you do not want to?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286658
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274644
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336438
You sound like a jerk for posting that I did not search when the reply prior to mine was 6 months ago.
Did you even read the thread? None of the links you posted had instructions/advice on how to remap the side "ok" button.
grizzley said:
Hello! Care if I do a quick search FOR YOU since you do not want to?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277639
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286658
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274644
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336438
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yes i was about to say. non of them have steps or even telling you anything related to how to get it.
all it says is people trying it matter and they failed.
if there was no solutiion you should have just said no solution, it would have saved you time searching all that and also us bashing you
the 4th link does have some good information, lemme just quote from it
Bellfazar said:
The side "ok" button is a tough one because it has multiple functions. In programs, explorer windows, and settings it acts as an OK button but when you're at the today screen it acts as a Start Menu button. I kinda get the feeling we're not going to be able to change this for a while. Not until someone releases a keymapper specifically for the Kaiser.
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strikeIII said:
even with the 8525 nobody has been able to re-map the ok button...it's still the biggest mystery, hehe....but now that they eliminated one button on the Tilt we really do need the ability to remap the ok button now...
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Deathace said:
I have the side OK button remapped in spb pocket plus v4 under the buttons menu in settings and the only thing you have to do is take focus off the start menu then it works as expected.
Russ
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It's really easy with help of AE Button Plus.
You can pretty much map any hardware key on your device with this great app.
I have it setup to be able to copy and paste by using the sliding keyboard and pressing Window Key + C to copy and Window Key + V to paste among other cool shortcuts.
Cheers!
RayanMX
Rayan said:
It's really easy with help of AE Button Plus.
You can pretty much map any hardware key on your device with this great app.
I have it setup to be able to copy and paste by using the sliding keyboard and pressing Window Key + C to copy and Window Key + V to paste among other cool shortcuts.
Cheers!
RayanMX
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Thanks Rayan. I downloaded the AE Button Plus program for my AT&T Tilt, and it is working fantastic for remapping buttons. I was able to remap the side OK button to lock my phone by holding it for a few seconds. I love the way it also lets you leave the button with its default setting for one press, but create other actions for multiple presses.
By the way, the phone locking works fantastic. It allows me to answer calls, but doesn't activate any of the other phone functions until I unlock the phone. That's perfect for carrying the phone in my pocket. Also, incoming notifications don't unlock the phone, so that I won't accidentally turn-on a bunch of applications while the phone is in my pocket. The unlocking action is very simple.
I've also mapped volume up and down to a long press of the soft keys. That alleviates the need to use the stylus to select the volume button. Great.
The AE Button Plus program was what I've needed all along to customize my phone. It would've saved me a lot of time.
One other note, I downloaded the 2.6.3 version of the program, rather than the freeware version, but I haven't gotten any info on the cost. I may be disappointed in the near future if this program automatically deactivates. Do you know if I should expect a disappointment? I would pay for this program, but I'm not sure how much it's worth to me, but I saw no information on the cost. Do you know?
AFAIK there is only one version, if you want the registered version you buy a license and there's a procedure to activate it, otherwise it uses the free version with a couple features disabled and a nagscreen once in a while.
Software solution for a hardware problem!
Very often when i press softkey or any d-pad key once, it is interpreted as multiple key press. Other users also reported that problem. I even send my device to repair center in UK, but they repaired everything except that. That is VERY VERY annoying! Sometimes i can't unlock the keyboard because of that.
So to solve the problem, i created an application (without UI) that will not allow pressing any of those keys more than once in period of 200ms (without timer, so your battery will not suffer). You can change that value through configuration file and also the keys that you want to monitor (comma-separated). I tested the application for a day, and it works perfectly!
112 - left soft key
113 - right soft key
37 - left
38 - up
39 - right
40 - down
13 - enter
Suddenly i feel free!
After install, shortcut will be created in \Windows\Startup folder so that it is started every time you restart your device.
When you install the application you will have to start it manually or restart device.
Device becomes usable again if you ignore low memory problem
.NET Compact Framework 3.5 is required!
Enjoy!
Good work and a very usefull app, mine thankfully does not double tap too often but I might give this a whirl.
Thanks for the work!
Seems to work great, thanks a lot
I'm glad you find it useful.
I get the following message when trying to run the htckeyboardfix.exe:
Error:
An unexpected error has occured in HTCKeyboardFix.exe.
Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.
This application requires a newer version of the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework than the version installed on this device.
I have a HTC S730 with WM 6.0 (original), phone is just new and no updates available... Did you install a newer version of .NET framwork? (don't know how to find out my version of .NET, OS version is = 5.2.1622 build 18128.0.4.4)
Same problem as bmwheaven here. Are you using a cooked rom?
You need to install .NET Compact Framework 3.5.
Thanks for the heads-up.
Installed the framework and the software, but for me it's not really a solution:
The delay of 200ms is way too much; can't even scroll through the menu's normally.
Tried alot of different delays, but nothing; I want to be able to write fast with the qwerty-keyboard, and only a delay of <50ms would help. But then the device responds twice to keypresses again...
Thanks for trying though, certainly a good try, but quite not good enough.
hi - i wont to test this on my MTeoR, install Framwork 3.5, and now i get this Message:
failed acquiring of the hook
whats means this ??
thx, Andi
bmwheaven said:
Thanks for the heads-up.
Installed the framework and the software, but for me it's not really a solution:
The delay of 200ms is way too much; can't even scroll through the menu's normally.
Tried alot of different delays, but nothing; I want to be able to write fast with the qwerty-keyboard, and only a delay of <50ms would help. But then the device responds twice to keypresses again...
Thanks for trying though, certainly a good try, but quite not good enough.
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I agree that 200ms is too much if you want to scroll through the menu by fast pressing D-pad buttons, because main purpose of this application is to prevent that. What you can do is press and hold d-pad buttons and when you are close to where you want to be you can use slower multipress way to get right where you want.
Personally, to me this is an excellent solution, scrolling through the menus are not problem at all for me.
I am not sure what you mean when you say "I want to be able to write fast with the qwerty-keyboard". Why can't you? I mean, this application does not affect any other keys except soft keys and d-pad keys.
gosinga said:
hi - i wont to test this on my MTeoR, install Framwork 3.5, and now i get this Message:
failed acquiring of the hook
whats means this ??
thx, Andi
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It probably means that your device is not application unlocked.
amaric said:
It probably means that your device is not application unlocked.
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thx for answer, but my device is surley unlocked - i have it for 1,5 years and flashed it with some ROM's from here, and it was an open device - not locked from an operator.
so long, Andi
amaric said:
I agree that 200ms is too much if you want to scroll through the menu by fast pressing D-pad buttons, because main purpose of this application is to prevent that. What you can do is press and hold d-pad buttons and when you are close to where you want to be you can use slower multipress way to get right where you want.
Personally, to me this is an excellent solution, scrolling through the menus are not problem at all for me.
I am not sure what you mean when you say "I want to be able to write fast with the qwerty-keyboard". Why can't you? I mean, this application does not affect any other keys except soft keys and d-pad keys.
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Ah, maybe I'm doing something wrong then.
Because I also tested this with sending text-messages, and it really skipped a lot of keypresses.
Did I have to change values in the config file myself; does the program respond to all keys if I don't edit the config-file or did you already put the d-pad and softkey configuration in there?
bmwheaven said:
Ah, maybe I'm doing something wrong then.
Because I also tested this with sending text-messages, and it really skipped a lot of keypresses.
Did I have to change values in the config file myself; does the program respond to all keys if I don't edit the config-file or did you already put the d-pad and softkey configuration in there?
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If you don't change the config file, then program will monitor only d-pad and softkeys. Behavior of any other key is the same with or without the application.
Contact HTC Support
HTC Customer support is not aware of this problem. They urge us all to report the issue with the keys, so it can be escalated to HTC development for a fix.
Please do so at:
http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx
Hallo
My HTC has the same keyboard problem, and Italian support (sigh!) told me to send to repair....
Tested amaric's software : at the moment works great.
Thank you!!!! You delayed the moment in which I will throw the S730 out of the window!!
tested since 26th august: PERFECT
thank you Amaric: I had the intention to change the phone, but with this application it can be decently used
I am really happy that I could help you guys!
I would also like to say that I sold my s730 and bought s740 because of low memory (I just can't create software to solve that problem ). Although I don't recommend HTC devices easily I must say that s740 is everything that I thought s730 will be. I am very happy with it. Almost no problems at all
I also get "failed acquiring of the hook" on my unlocked S730.
Anyone figured it out?
Look for a software called "hook manager" - install it and it should work.
http://www.mobiion.com/downloads.html#hookmgr
I downloaded a hex editor and a rom and loaded the rom onto the hex editor.
But that kind of stuff is far above me.
I'm trying to edit the keyboard mapping, i need to switch some keys around.
I have the tilt, i would really like someone experienced to help me with this because my keyboard is basically useless right now, and ill have to buy a new phone if i cant fix it.
is there not a cab file to change from the tilt to the keyboard mapping you require?
The answer is...(drum roll please)..YES!
use the forum search option for "tilt keyboard fix" and you will be pleasantly surprised.
plz remember that unlike your girlfriend search will always be there for you. ;-)
chrisrc1985 said:
The answer is...(drum roll please)..YES!
use the forum search option for "tilt keyboard fix" and you will be pleasantly surprised.
plz remember that unlike your girlfriend search will always be there for you. ;-)
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lol i know theres that fix i just wasnt sure if it was tilt to kaiser one he required lol
no its not the keyboard fix i know about that. My issue is unique, i need to remap some of my letters. I'm fairly certain the issue involves modifiying a rom, it doesn't matter which, and to do this i would have to use a hex editor.
sNowMaN432 said:
no its not the keyboard fix i know about that. My issue is unique, i need to remap some of my letters. I'm fairly certain the issue involves modifiying a rom, it doesn't matter which, and to do this i would have to use a hex editor.
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what keys do you need to remap and maybe someone will know a fix.
ok my k,n, i m, and period keys are unresponsive. this is a hardware issue, ill explain further if u want. this makes the keyboard quite useless without these keys functioning.
I never use my arrow keys so I would like to map each faulty letter key (K,n,i,n,.) to a corresponding arrow, and maybe the "ok" or "tab" button.
basically when i press left arrow, the letter p would pop up...etc
i would be truly gratified if u guys helped me fix this, because ill get a cheap unbreakable phone if the tilt wont fully work. Its been really frustrating,
how old is your kaiser?
do you have a warranty on it still?
could be easier to have it replaced.
well thats where i mentioned i could go into depth further. I cracked my screen, and replaced it myself. In the process I accidently nicked the side of the ribbon wire connecting the keyboard to the main unit. This resulted in those 5 keys becoming unresponsive.
I got the phone about 6 months ago, but the warranty was voided when i took the phone apart to replace the screen.
AE Button Mapper use google..... "Not AE Button Plus"
ok i downloaded it and got it installed but i have no clue how to use it.
theres some buttons to reassign keys however u have to press the key you want to reassign and that it not possible being that those keys are disconnected.
ok little update, i think the AEK program will work, however the first step is it has to create a chart by logging all the keys. You have to press all the keys individually and it logs them with a four digit number. For example pressing the letter "d" logs key 0044. Once all the keys are logged you can type them up in a text document and mix and match accordingly.
My obstacle is that i cannot press my keys that are unresponsive, for them to be logged. I tried to find a pattern by pressing keys around these and saw nothing that made any sense.
I'm not sure if the numerical values attached are standard for every application in the phone, or specific to the AEK program. I can't find a thread, that would list the value for those letters i can't press.
Does anyone know if there is a chart with all the values assigned to each key of the tilt?
Snowman, give me a link to this AEK program and I'll use it to log all my keys on my tilt, then perhaps we can compare them to what you have and hopefully get the missing codes for you
Moved to General.
Hex Editing a ROM file won't get what you need. I've seen people trying to patch the keyboard driver for this, but no success. Sorry, couldn't be more help .
Dave
thankyouthankyou
its
http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.php
the download link is in the top right hand corner
i downloaded the full version
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ok my k,n, i m, and period keys are unresponsive. this is a hardware issue, ill explain further if u want. this makes the keyboard quite useless without these keys functioning.
I never use my arrow keys so I would like to map each faulty letter key (K,n,i,n,.) to a corresponding arrow, and maybe the "ok" or "tab" button.
basically when i press left arrow, the letter p would pop up...etc
i would be truly gratified if u guys helped me fix this, because ill get a cheap unbreakable phone if the tilt wont fully work. Its been really frustrating,
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ok (keyboard) = 0875
tab = ? (wont let my use tab)
k = 004B
n = 004E
i = 0049
, = 00BC (keep in mind this is pressed by pushing the FN button and arrow left)
. = 00BE
start menu (keyboard) = 085B
ok i wont go into specifics unless u really want me to. long story short i need some information from my tilt that I can't get, without it my keyboard is useless. I need someone to get this information from their phone.
there's a program called AE keyboard mapper. It can remap all the keys, within it is a process that requires you to press all your buttons and lists them with numerical values individually. Because my (k,n,m,i, and period) keys are unresponsive I cannot get their value to make the changes to my phone.
The program is very small and makes no changes to your phone, i simply need these 5 codes.
the url to download AE keyboard mapper is
http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.php
the download link is in the top right hand corner. After instalation all you have to do is exit the program, and go to file explorer/program files/AEKMap, and click AEKMapScan. then just press (k,n,m,i,and period) and get the values for each one.
the program can be exited and uninstalled with no changes.
i truly do appreciate anyone who would take a little of their time to help me out with this. i can't keep my tilt if the keyboard isnt functioning.
k:004b
n:004e
m:004d
i:0049
.:00be
thanks so much!
np and gl
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I already use this software - make already 2 custom layout - ru and ua - mix of "ЯВЕРТЫ" layout.