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Recently rooted...now how do I make my phone faster?

By installing the new ROM my phone works better and faster, no lagg.
But I understand that it can be even better...
I have deleted bloatware (using root explorer) and at this point have not reinstalled many of my apps (waiting for the next DC ROM release)
How can I find how much free space / memory I have left on my phone?
RAM, MB, etc?
I have read that if you monitor the use of space then it will be a fine tune machine.
I read about Ap2sd and that might help? Others say it doesnt beacuse it slows the response time when running an app.
Any words of wisdom?
Thanks
Any help will be appreciated.

I know, I know...DB comment but get an EVO. No substitute for raw horsepower.

4 Things.
1. Over Clock
2. JIT
3. Remove Sense (optional)
4. Class 6 SD card, not a cheap-o

should be in q/a or general forum. not here for future reference this forum is really for devs and ROM discussion only...not general questions like this.
with that said...
each person could probably give you their own ways of tinkering with their ROM and making it "faster".
You can download systraymonitor from the market, which gives you RAM/MEMORY/BATTERY, etc.
A2SD could be beneficial if you are installing more than 25+ apps, as it allows your system memory to combine with a partition of your SD card, thus keeping available memory higher, which leaves plenty of room for browser cache, app cache, etc.
Welcome to the wonderful world of ROMs for our Hero.

riggsandroid said:
should be in q/a or general forum. not here for future reference this forum is really for devs and ROM discussion only...not general questions like this.
with that said...
each person could probably give you their own ways of tinkering with their ROM and making it "faster".
You can download systraymonitor from the market, which gives you RAM/MEMORY/BATTERY, etc.
A2SD could be beneficial if you are installing more than 25+ apps, as it allows your system memory to combine with a partition of your SD card, thus keeping available memory higher, which leaves plenty of room for browser cache, app cache, etc.
Welcome to the wonderful world of ROMs for our Hero.
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Thank you for your input. Will check that app.

aisseleacim03 said:
By installing the new ROM my phone works better and faster, no lagg.
But I understand that it can be even better...
I have deleted bloatware (using root explorer) and at this point have not reinstalled many of my apps (waiting for the next DC ROM release)
How can I find how much free space / memory I have left on my phone?
RAM, MB, etc?
I have read that if you monitor the use of space then it will be a fine tune machine.
I read about Ap2sd and that might help? Others say it doesnt beacuse it slows the response time when running an app.
Any words of wisdom?
Thanks
Any help will be appreciated.
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ap2sd only helps really if you have a fast sd (ie aftermarket class 6 or 10) but ap2sd is mainly to free up space, you won't notice a preformance boost this way.... at least I haven't even with a class 6 card. It's just to allow you to install tons of apps.
android self manages it's ram but there are times where it doesn't do it very efficently, there's roms out there esp from flipz and darch that optimize the internal task killer/memory management to give a more fluid expereince.
I would reccomend agianst a task manager as I've had nothing but problems with it.
as far as making it faster look for roms that have JIT, BFS, and/or overclock. Mind you each one of these removes stability from a stock based rom, they're not perfect but they are pretty nice. And in my opinion the leeway you give is worth the benifit with that type of thing. But each one of those has a significant preformance boost advantage. BFS being what I reccognize as the biggest improvement in overall system preformance.
I would personally reccomend fresh toast, really research how to install it correctly but it's one of the best most stable I've personally tried. Next being my personal favorites darchdroid.
hope this helps.

Kcarpenter said:
4 Things.
1. Over Clock
2. JIT
3. Remove Sense (optional)
4. Class 6 SD card, not a cheap-o
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Excuse my ignorance...I have heard of all the option but number 1.
Over Clock? I dont know what does that mean.
Thanks for the info though.

aisseleacim03 said:
Excuse my ignorance...I have heard of all the option but number 1.
Over Clock? I dont know what does that mean.
Thanks for the info though.
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short: makes your processor go faster than it was designed to do within proven stable(ish)/safe(ish) limits
long: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking

Kcarpenter said:
1. Over Clock
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...at your own risk. My phone runs great without this. I don't think it's worth the risk of cooking my proc's bacon.

Grease Lightning yo!!!!
In all seriousness, if you wanna rev up your performance but at the expense of our already limited battery life, try out FreshToast 2.1 or if you want a clean trimmed vanilla feel try out DarchDroid and make sure you follow the directions for getting the OC app configured (OC Widget or SetCPU)
That'll definitely give you the max possible bang out of your phone. Buyer beware, these roms are not without their quirks, so please for the love of NY Cheesecake (oh hush, haven't eaten since 8am this morning heh) read through each of the respective threads to hunt down and possibly cure the kinks that plague your configuration.

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subcypher said:
...at your own risk. My phone runs great without this. I don't think it's worth the risk of cooking my proc's bacon.
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Ive had my phone overclocked to the max the last few days. Running smooth. I underclock while phone is sleeping

I made mine 3x faster by picking a rom with no sense, rm EVERY apk that I don't use ( friendstream, flickr, tweet, etc...everything except what I USE) and apps2sd. I run a buke naked pure hero, installed apps i DO want,and it never lags. I Only get 2.2 mflops
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[Q] Why is switching from RFS to ext4 such a big deal for Samsung?

Just wondering. Switching from eg. FAT32 to NTFS is no big deal in Windows, and I just can't understand why it is a problem in this phone. Could somebody explain?

Been having the same question. I'm pretty sure Samsung engineers are browsing these forums for feedback about the leaked firmwares. Haven't they realized that RFS is the biggest issue the phone is facing?
P.S: Is it because its difficult to completely format the internal system to EXT2/4 and still preserve the existing data? Just thinking aloud!

They have invested money to develop it. They probably have a roadmap for it. They cannot dump it, just because its first version is underperforming. It is more possible that they will fix it than dump it.
I don't think its the biggest problem. We can replace the filesystem ourselves. The biggest problems are JIT and GPS.

huxflux2003 said:
They have invested money to develop it. They probably have a roadmap for it. They cannot dump it, just because its first version is underperforming. It is more possible that they will fix it than dump it.
I don't think its the biggest problem. We can replace the filesystem ourselves. The biggest problems are JIT and GPS.
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Well in my case, Lag IS the biggest problem. I don't use GPS much, and JIT doesn't really show real life performance increase for day to day usage (

Simple.
Pride.

Karupan said:
Well in my case, Lag IS the biggest problem. I don't use GPS much, and JIT doesn't really show real life performance increase for day to day usage (
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Install lagfix. Fixed.

huxflux2003 said:
They have invested money to develop it. They probably have a roadmap for it. They cannot dump it, just because its first version is underperforming. It is more possible that they will fix it than dump it.
I don't think its the biggest problem. We can replace the filesystem ourselves. The biggest problems are JIT and GPS.
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If RFS is what I think it is (ReiserFS), then Samsung hasn't invested anything in it. It's an outdated formatting system that isn't in popular use in most modern Linux systems. Reiser4 is in development as it's successor and EXT3 and EXT4 are more far more widespread in terms of usage.
Clearly it's not very efficient for this phone since such a simple change as moving to EXT4 can more than double the speed of the phone. Boot times and turning off is so much quicker, as is the media scan that it would seem to be a no brainer to switch.
If Samsung releases Froyo with RFS and we continue to see such a huge performance jump by moving to EXT4, then I'm sure the majority of visitors to this forum will do so.

Ivegottheskill said:
If RFS is what I think it is (ReiserFS),
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Wrong, no relation to ReiserFS!

Ask samsung
[email protected] - Madan Ankapura - Samsung Staff Engineer. Goto person for all technical issues related to Android within Samsung and interface for Google in the role of Technical Account Manager-Android.
[email protected] - Yanjun Huang - Smart Phone Product Strategy.

Ridiculous File System, then?

morvaeldd said:
Ridiculous File System, then?
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lol, since it's based on fat32+journaling it may be true!

shivankit said:
[email protected] - Madan Ankapura - Samsung Staff Engineer. Goto person for all technical issues related to Android within Samsung and interface for Google in the role of Technical Account Manager-Android.
[email protected] - Yanjun Huang - Smart Phone Product Strategy.
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Nice information.
Rather than flooding their mail boxes, why don't we write a formal open-letter in the name of XDA developers Community exposing our findings and suggestions?
Any volunteer? (my english is not so good)
Please note that I'd not approve a letter that is based on insults or describes this product as "rubbish"... I'd prefer they understand that we may have a win-win cooperation in order to make this (and others) product better. So if we're going to expose some problems we'll need to document every problem in a technical way.

borchgrevink said:
Just wondering. Switching from eg. FAT32 to NTFS is no big deal in Windows, and I just can't understand why it is a problem in this phone. Could somebody explain?
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This is a very wrong statement. It took Microsoft 3 versions of Windows OS (NT 3.5, NT 4.0, Windows 2000) to get a stable NTSF and each NTFS is not compatible with each other.
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morvaeldd said:
Ridiculous File System, then?
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I believe this would be the official name

Nope.. The actual name is "Retarded File System"
True story!

Robust File System is the official name.
It is designed to minimize data loss on power failure and also prolong NAND life. NAND specific file systems are a big research topic at the moment, since depending on the file system design and operation the solid state elements can die earlier.
I sure hope we don't fry ours with the lagfixes we install.

Roy Ngan said:
This is a very wrong statement. It took Microsoft 3 versions of Windows OS (NT 3.5, NT 4.0, Windows 2000) to get a stable NTSF and each NTFS is not compatible with each other.
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Cannot see why this is wrong. On a XP system there is no problem just switching to/fro NTFS/FAT32.

borchgrevink said:
Cannot see why this is wrong. On a XP system there is no problem just switching to/fro NTFS/FAT32.
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Because XP had the "final" version of NTFS.
I guess Samsung is sticking to RFS because they don't want to compromise data integrity.

huxflux2003 said:
Robust File System is the official name.
It is designed to minimize data loss on power failure and also prolong NAND life. NAND specific file systems are a big research topic at the moment, since depending on the file system design and operation the solid state elements can die earlier.
I sure hope we don't fry ours with the lagfixes we install.
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Good point. But so far we are using the Internal and External SD cards which use FAT32, so using ext2 or ext3/4 shouldn't be a problem, especially with ext2 which has no journalling.
I'm thinking that there must be some good reason why Samsung are using RFS, and maybe RFS is not as crappy as we think. Been tweaking the io schedulers and also the mount options to see if tuning can make RFS acceptably un-laggy.
I mean, Samsung are using the kernel default relatime mount option! Simple changing it to noatime would improve performance - I'm trying that now.

I think the main problem is the user being us.
The newer FWs work pretty smoth IMO, especially compared to the early / stock builds.
This IS enough for average joe. The difference is that many of us are power users, demanding more of the device than 80-90% of the rest of the people using the device.
Changing anything can cause new errors and furthermore takes focus off other things.
Take into account another issue: Shareholder value maximisation.
Many people forget this in light of IT perfection, I as an economist simply can't.
Looking at it from an economic perspective it makes perfect sense to focus on the GPS issue that applies to normal users probably as much as to power users than implementing JIT for higher scores as most people with a Galaxy S wont even know what JIT is.
Don't get me wrong. I am not denying that there is a problem, I am just saying that in a broader perspective it might not be as big a problem as many of us IT perfectionist might believe.

Ok, My Captivate lags a lot...this isn't normal

I downloaded the leaked froyo firmware to my captivate hoping it would solve a lot of the issues of lag but it still lags a lot like it's a phone from 2006. I downloaded the Ryan ZA one click lag fix and it still lags. I wanted to put voodoo on it but I have froyo and I don't think it will allow me to do it...what the heck is the problem and why is there so much hacking I have to do to get it to run smooth. The HTC Aria runs blazingly fast and quick from what I read and this Super Phone Galaxy S runs slower than a Hero? If anybody has an answer I'd like to know or if someone can offer some suggestions on how to improve this. It's pretty annoying.

crossover37 said:
I downloaded the leaked froyo firmware to my captivate hoping it would solve a lot of the issues of lag but it still lags a lot like it's a phone from 2006. I downloaded the Ryan ZA one click lag fix and it still lags. I wanted to put voodoo on it but I have froyo and I don't think it will allow me to do it...what the heck is the problem and why is there so much hacking I have to do to get it to run smooth. The HTC Aria runs blazingly fast and quick from what I read and this Super Phone Galaxy S runs slower than a Hero? If anybody has an answer I'd like to know or if someone can offer some suggestions on how to improve this. It's pretty annoying.
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Its called RFS... call up samsung and complain to them about it...

so many problems with this
a) wrong section, Q&A or general please
b) notice that word "leaked" in what you said? it means this isn't OFFICIAL, which means it likely ISN'T the final release, so it's bound to have at least some bugs.
c) ryanza lagfix is placebo and awful and doesn't work at all (on top of that, ext2 is a bad choice)
d) if you understood how/where the lag was coming from, you'd know why voodoo is "necessary" on 2.1
e) the aria is built EXTREMELY different from the captivate, it's like comparing the iphone to the nokia n8... yes they're both android, but they're built different which leads to complications
f) voodoo is not yet available for 2.2 because we don't have source code for 2.2 (again, if you knew how voodoo worked, you'd know why it wasn't instant)... we can hack it in with initramfs, and there are people working on it... but it isn't top priority
g) and shockingly a SMALLER piece of hardware with a SMALLER resolution made by a company known for making quality android phones runs smoother? shocker. honestly.
h) if you actually had any other real world interactions with other android phones, you'd know the lag is occasional but not unusual (hell I've seen just as bad or worse on the droid x before)
i) I suggest you read, read, read, search, read, read, and think before you make posts like the above (why on earth you thought this belongs in development is beyond me)
/rant

There are two kinds of lag. I/O lag is caused by the delays in accessing data stored on your phone in some partition. This is largely due to the use of RFS by Samsung, and the voodoo lag fix gets rid of most of that. Unfortunately there is no voodoo on Captivate leaked Froyo yet, as the source code has not yet been released by Samsung. The OCLF type fixes will help some by masking this lag when the amount of data being written and read is small. When a large amount of data is involved, these fixes will lag, as they still sit on top of RFS.
There is a second kind of lag due to memory shortage. This will hit you after the phone has been on for a while. This is similar to the paging seen on Windows, where the data has to be fetched from the hard disk. This type of lag is best fixed by installing a memory management application. The one I use is called Autokiller. Despite its name, it is not a task killer. What it does is make sure that a certain amount of RAM is always free. I use the strict profile, and my phone can go days without having to be rebooted.

troll. go get an aria then^^
save a galaxy s for a person who can truly appreciate it.

by accident I posted this in the development area, I didn't realize until after the fact, my bad.
So do you think I should put my phone back to 2.1 on my phone and apply voodoo? My phone lags quite a bit, it's bad.
I'll try out that app you suggested, thanks.

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crossover37 said:
by accident I posted this in the development area, I didn't realize until after the fact, my bad.
So do you think I should put my phone back to 2.1 on my phone and apply voodoo? My phone lags quite a bit, it's bad.
I'll try out that app you suggested, thanks.
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Look at the z4mod post in this forum. It works on 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811902

Kaik541 said:
f) voodoo is not yet available for 2.2 because we don't have source code for 2.2 (again, if you knew how voodoo worked, you'd know why it wasn't instant)... we can hack it in with initramfs, and there are people working on it... but it isn't top priority
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There is a pre-release version out for froyo but I doubt it will provide more benefits than issues at this point.

cliffgardner said:
There is a pre-release version out for froyo but I doubt it will provide more benefits than issues at this point.
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the "pre-release" version you're talking about is for the i9000... and guess what, the i9000 has source code, we do not

I had the same issue when I installed the leaked 2.2.
I did a master reset, flashed back to stock, master reset again, flashed to 2.2 cognition. Now I don't know if the second master reset was necessary, but my phone is faster than ever. Very few problems, in fact... less problem than the 2.2 leak.

Just flash to cog 2.1.6/2.1.7. I have absolutely no lag at all. Though even at stock my phone wasnt crazy laggy like your claiming your phone is.

rajendra82 said:
There is a second kind of lag due to memory shortage. This will hit you after the phone has been on for a while. This is similar to the paging seen on Windows, where the data has to be fetched from the hard disk. This type of lag is best fixed by installing a memory management application. The one I use is called Autokiller. Despite its name, it is not a task killer. What it does is make sure that a certain amount of RAM is always free. I use the strict profile, and my phone can go days without having to be rebooted.
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Free RAM is wasted RAM.
And task killers, etc. are a great way to rape your battery life.

MikeyMike01 said:
Free RAM is wasted RAM.
And task killers, etc. are a great way to rape your battery life.
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Autokiller is NOT a task killer. It changes the memory management profile that defines when the apps are closed. This is a combination of the amount of free RAM and the type of app and the state it is in. I also disagree that free RAM is wasted RAM. If you are trying to open a webpage and the amount of RAM is low, the system has to decide to close something else to free the space you need. If the profile of what to close is inefficient, you will frequently run into low memory situations, when the system has to continue to close some apps to free up the memory, and you will see lag as the system works it out for you. What makes you think that the profile that Samsung chose to determine when to close an app is necessarily the best one?

[Q] Regarding the new DATA2EXT lagfix...

just to clarify things
in what way is this lagfix different from the lagfixes we have...?
i understand its pretty much the same thing we're doing but is it different in any other way?
totally not interested in the quadrant score, mainly phone behavior( overall speed using the phone )

I heard that they created something like Modaco's lagfix, but I'm not sure

I wonder if it also has a high chance of corruption.

the guy working on it is still in testing stages, wonder if we can get some comments/insight from the devs here

lol. this is nothing to care about, its like old apps2sd.. no amazing new stuff ;p we already have better fix. voodoo !

You don't know that. This Guy might be working hard on this project just to read a post about how his post isn't wanted, " cuz we have something better, voodoo!".
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Who's developing this?

LOL
Glad we're not missing out on anything new ^_^
comparing the i9000 forum with everything out there, GOD we're so active lol

Are you so fools?
This is nothing like what we are doing, it is something totally different, it basically involve moving the data partition from internal memory to external sdcard, do you understand what it means?
It means that you need a class 6 microsd, and that would give you a boost like never before, it means that it could give potentially better results than voodoo lagfix without even the need of converting internal memory to ext4, it would mean that with voodoo lagfix we could achieve scores like never before, imagine application starting even before you remove your finger from the screen...

D0cStrange said:
Are you so fools?
This is nothing like what we are doing, it is something totally different, it basically involve moving the data partition from internal memory to external sdcard, do you understand what it means?
It means that you need a class 6 microsd, and that would give you a boost like never before, it means that it could give potentially better results than voodoo lagfix without even the need of converting internal memory to ext4, it would mean that with voodoo lagfix we could achieve scores like never before, imagine application starting even before you remove your finger from the screen...[/]
the first lagfix works like that you describes before voodoo and others.
Ti nicO
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[Q] Overclocked Nook keeps rebooting

Hey guys I am hoping someone can help me here. I have my nook running the eclair 1.1 overclock. It is running like a champ and really speedy but every few hours it will reboot itself. Has anyone had a similar issue?

timmiedisc said:
Hey guys I am hoping someone can help me here. I have my nook running the eclair 1.1 overclock. It is running like a champ and really speedy but every few hours it will reboot itself. I have no idea what is causing this. Has anyone had a similar issue?
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Don't overclock it? Seriously, are you really asking "If I overclock my system, it's unstable, how do I fix it?"

khaytsus said:
Don't overclock it? Seriously, are you really asking "If I overclock my system, it's unstable, how do I fix it?"
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lol. a simple but true solution.

Wow forums drive me crazy. Never once did I ask for help and I fully understand that this type of hack can cause instability. I was just looking for information to see if anyone had had similar problems after they overclocked their system. And if so if they had found any workarounds. This is how things like this become better is by people discussing what they have or have not done. Instead you imediately reply and talk to me like an idiot. I guess I do not understand if you are so much wisers and smarter than I then why would you bring it upon yourself to waste the time to repond to my thread?

timmiedisc said:
Wow forums drive me crazy. Never once did I ask for help and I fully understand that this type of hack can cause instability. I was just looking for information to see if anyone had had similar problems after they overclocked their system. And if so if they had found any workarounds. This is how things like this become better is by people discussing what they have or have not done. Instead you imediately reply and talk to me like an idiot. I guess I do not understand if you are so much wisers and smarter than I then why would you bring it upon yourself to waste the time to repond to my thread?
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I mean well he answered your question. Its most likely unstable, I just recommend bringing it down to a lower clock to see if it works there. And theres probably no "workaround" to make a device stable at an unstable clock. There is increasing the voltage but too much will degrade the chip over time and destroy battery life.

I understand the instability and your answer makes sense and I may try if neccessary. One thing that I did do this morning was restored the system and then reinstalled the overclock and it seems to be running smooth now. I am going to monitor throughout the day and see what happens.

Timmiedisc,
The first thing in your first sentence is a request for help, then the first sentence of your next post you state you never did ask for help?
Anyway, what was stated really is the simple fact. Overclocking is as much art as science due to variations in components used. If unstable your *best* bet is to revet to a stock kernel and see if you are then stable. You are always best off isolating one setting at a time when troubleshooting a system stability issue and the kernel is the easiest and biggest target.
If you regain stability, then try other kernels. Different OC kernels will have different settings for speed steppings and core voltages. Any of these may help/hurt stability for your specific Nook. Some kernels also work better with specific ROMs, so ask about what others have found work with the specific build you are using.
From my personal standpoint, OC'ng a tablet isn't about getting *maximum* performance like I would try for with a PC but rather getting improved performance to reduce/eliminate lag and give a noce, smooth experience. The minimum speed required for this is optimal to me as it helps extend battery life. But that is *my* criteria...