[Q] Is there a Donut ROM with no Google Apps included? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I've tried all the Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs and I've decided that I'm coming back to Donut once and for all, for better battery life and (on my phone) stability. However, most Donut ROMs haven't been updated in ages and the Google apps that are included with them are also outdated. I can't seem to update them from the Market, I guess because they're installed in ROM and can't be modified. Is there a Donut ROM (ZXDonut 2.6 is the one I've been using most) that doesn't have any Google apps installed? Other than Market, I suppose.

Maybe CM4?
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Android 2.1 gallery app for us?

Anyway we can get the gallery app on 2.1, ive tried it on my hero on some 2.1 roms and it can easily run it,
anyone tried porting it for 1.5?
I don't think it can be backported to cupcake, no - best just to wait the few shorts weeks for Hero Eclair
i mean as an apk. so i can run modaco rom
as non of the 2.x roms support games very well

[Q] Upgrading to 2.1 stock (no custom ROM, not rooted)

So, I see that there is a 2.1 update for the HTC Hero CDMA from Sprint and I'm very interested in upgrading to be able to use some of the better software out there that doesn't work on 1.5.
The thing is, I finally managed to fix this phone from a bad rooting procedure (it's a used phone, the previous owner rooted it using who-knows-what method and ROM, which caused the wifi to stop working) after spending weeks on the problem and finally have a good, fully-functional phone. So, now, I'm a bit paranoid about any rooting or upgrade procedure, though I suspect and official update from a Sprint shouldn't cause a problem.
I'm also considering doing a basic rooting (no custom ROM) so I can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery and make a complete backup, but, again, I'm very leery about it.
Is there any possibility that rooting, in and of itself, could cause the wifi to stop working or was it that the specific ROM that was installed didn't have the right wifi driver?
epp_b said:
So, I see that there is a 2.1 update for the HTC Hero CDMA from Sprint and I'm very interested in upgrading to be able to use some of the better software out there that doesn't work on 1.5.
The thing is, I finally managed to fix this phone from a bad rooting procedure (it's a used phone, the previous owner rooted it using who-knows-what method and ROM, which caused the wifi to stop working) after spending weeks on the problem and finally have a good, fully-functional phone. So, now, I'm a bit paranoid about any rooting or upgrade procedure, though I suspect and official update from a Sprint shouldn't cause a problem.
I'm also considering doing a basic rooting (no custom ROM) so I can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery and make a complete backup, but, again, I'm very leery about it.
Is there any possibility that rooting, in and of itself, could cause the wifi to stop working or was it that the specific ROM that was installed didn't have the right wifi driver?
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Dude there are literally thousands of people running custom roms flawlessly ....taking that in to consideration, what do you think the answer to your question is? Lol for liability purposes we all have to say "there's a risk" but my 11 year old sister rooted her evo and flashed cm7 without any help
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Fair enough, the custom ROM that was used must have been a crappy one.
epp_b said:
Fair enough, the custom ROM that was used must have been a crappy one.
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Well we've had some that had broken wifi long ago but really you probably just could've flashed a new working kernel over it and the problem would be gone. If you wanna stay stock-ish I'd recommend fresh 2.1 but if you wanna really see it fly flash kush-deck gb. Flash the. 29 kernel after you boot and you will never regret it
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Thanks, I'll check those out sometime. Have you got links for them?
Believe me, you don't want the stock Sprint 2.1 on your Hero. It's terrible. Super slow and it freezes constantly. I ran it for a short time after Sprint released it and that's when I decided to root. If I remember correctly you also can't put your apps on the SD card with it which really limits how many apps you can install.
I am running CyanogenMod 6.0 Froyo with ADW Launcher (built into the Rom) and its snappy and reliable but still has a lot of the bells and whistles. Try Beautiful Widgets and you can have a homescreen clock with animated weather just like the HTC Sense homescreen.
I tried CM 6.1.1 recently (updated froyo with new features) but it used more internal memory than 6.0 which made my phone laggy.
Be sure to get the appropriate Google apps zip file with the new Market
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what's 2.1?
Android Eclair. 2.2 is Froyo
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I managed to find some of the software I was looking for and I'm actually pretty happy to run 1.5; I actually find it quite usable.

[Q] Rom Help

Have yet to find a gingerbread rom worth permanent daily use the closest in my opinion was firerats magpie but for some odd reason i cant get Gapps working right for it when flashed(terminal emulator is always missing)
which GingerBread Or Froyo Rom do yall think is the most customizable and stable?
TBH, I think all ROMs are about the same as far as customization and stability. (this is just my own opinion)
Now it come down to what you would like best between GB, Froyo, etc... That is different. Currently I like the Froyo build ROM. It seem to be running fast (for me). I didn't even bother with flashing the GAPPS, after I flashed the ROM I just went into the market and download the google apps that I neeeded (IE: GMail, Google+). Since I don't use all the google apps.
Don't know what you meant on the Terminal Emmulator. I always have it in all the ROM I flashed.
Currently I am using NameLessFroyo ROM (see my sig for ROM link) as of yesterday for my daily use.
Personally FBL is the best to me. I have it Metamorphed to look like Gingerbread, Sense3.0 Font, apps to EXT,I use Zeam launcher *Can't install my LP Plus since LP is the system launcher*.
A good GB rom is dw9009 *or somthing like that* His ROM is 100% pure CM7 Just like you'd get on a offical ROM. Then Sisterchick made a Barebones version of it called DietCm7. It just saves a lot of space, and runs on the phone it's self and not the Swap.
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[Q] Best ROM for Milestone

Hi!
I bought an original Motorola Milestone (the original one) a little more than a year ago. When I got it, I rooted the stock ROM (Android 2.1). A few weeks ago, I installed the latest version of MIUI ROM, but I don't like it. Well, I like the ROM itself very much, but I don't like how slow the phone is. It doesn't feel as fast as the stock 2.1 (I had it overclocked at 800MHz). For instance - Sygic that worked as a charm on 2.1 is very slow on MIUI and crashes all the time. And even when it works it lags as hell. I also don't know if the Milestone Overclock application works with MIUI - it doesn't give me any errors when I load the module but it doesn't work on startup.
So any ideas how to speed this thing up? I found these solutions:
a) go back to stock 2.1, which worked almost as it should and was fast
b) go to stock 2.2 ROM
c) Install some other custom ROM (which one?)
r000li said:
Hi!
I bought an original Motorola Milestone (the original one) a little more than a year ago. When I got it, I rooted the stock ROM (Android 2.1). A few weeks ago, I installed the latest version of MIUI ROM, but I don't like it. Well, I like the ROM itself very much, but I don't like how slow the phone is. It doesn't feel as fast as the stock 2.1 (I had it overclocked at 800MHz). For instance - Sygic that worked as a charm on 2.1 is very slow on MIUI and crashes all the time. And even when it works it lags as hell. I also don't know if the Milestone Overclock application works with MIUI - it doesn't give me any errors when I load the module but it doesn't work on startup.
So any ideas how to speed this thing up? I found these solutions:
a) go back to stock 2.1, which worked almost as it should and was fast
b) go to stock 2.2 ROM
c) Install some other custom ROM (which one?)
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CM 6 & 7 are both great.
I don't know if flashing CM6 or 7 would help much. MIUI that I am using currently is based on CM6 after all. And I would be totaly happy with it if it ran a little faster. I want a faster browser and GPS navigation that works like it should. Both things worked on stock ROM better than they do now.
r000li said:
I don't know if flashing CM6 or 7 would help much. MIUI that I am using currently is based on CM6 after all. And I would be totaly happy with it if it ran a little faster. I want a faster browser and GPS navigation that works like it should. Both things worked on stock ROM better than they do now.
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Are you running an old Froyo MIUI? You should try the latest MIUI on Gingerbread. Basically, every ROM is based off of CM7, so you should try that first, or possibly FroyoMOD if you want a Froyo ROM.
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r000li said:
I don't know if flashing CM6 or 7 would help much. MIUI that I am using currently is based on CM6 after all. And I would be totaly happy with it if it ran a little faster. I want a faster browser and GPS navigation that works like it should. Both things worked on stock ROM better than they do now.
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try Ice and Fire.
I've tried all 3 (CM7/MIUI/I&F), and the latest build of I&F has the fastest browser i've seen.
No, I am using one of the newest version of MIUSI (from MIUI US) that is based on Android 2.3.5 - at least the phone says so .
r000li said:
No, I am using one of the newest version of MIUSI (from MIUI US) that is based on Android 2.3.5 - at least the phone says so .
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Try DannyDroid's version of MIUI, it has a lot more features that specifically tweak the Milestone for the best performance possible.
I am downloading it now. I hope that it works better than the version that I have.
Wow!
That is much better! While it is still MIUI, it works so much better - it feels faster and scrolling in browser is almost smooth, also Sygic which was crashing before now works - at least for now. I will see how it works after a few days, but first impressions are good. I also like that it is overclocked at 1GHz by default.

[Q] ezgingerbread vs. froyo by laszlo?

For a while I would like to ask this question, but I cannot post on the dev forum on the ezgingerbread thread:
Which one is faster or less laggy? I've been on ezgingerbread for more than two months, pulled the repo and compiled the .zip to install, also tried 0818 precompiled download. However, even the newest version does not give me the same speed I had with terry's MT3d OTA rom. On ezgingerbread, when I press Gmail for a first time, I still need to wait from 10sec to 30 sec for my gmail to occur (613MHz), it become 1-2 seconds if I open gmail again, but that performance doesn't hold if the interval is, for example, an hour or so.
I've heard good words about froyo by laszlo except that it is not developed now, but I guess what I care is: is it less laggy than ezgingerbread? I've read the comments following the poll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18067831#post18067831
and developed a doubt about trying froyo by laszlo at this date. What do you think? As flashing a rom and reinstall would take me quite some time (not sure if titanium backup can restore my apps in gingerbread to froyo, or if the nandroid backup actually works perfectly...)
Your input is greatly appreciated.
If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€
AndDiSa said:
If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€
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Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA
repast said:
Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA
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Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".
i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself
Try both, then choose froyo for laszlo.
I use Froyo Melt by ldrifta (AKA: DreamTeam Froyo). It is very fast from my experience on G1. I also have apps and data on SD card with no lag (at this point) with about 20 apps installed. The only thing I use with GAPPS is the GMail.
So, based on my experience I would pick froyo for laszlo if I have to pick between the two.
If your looking for a fast GB ROM, with a good amount of internal space. Use my ROM Nomy CM7.1 2.3.7. Its really fast, is ment for optimum RAM. I'll be adding legacy Apps2ext. No MTD needed, no swap, its under 40MB Zipped. 52 on system. It will be under 40MB unzipped by the end of this month.
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For me froyo by laszlo runs faster.
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AndDiSa said:
Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".
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So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?
After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!
i know what you mean, I like gingerbread better than froyo for some reason, its just addicting... i guess.
repast said:
So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?
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I like this idea. is this possible?
or just remove market updater before you open market for the 1st time. that works too
vincom said:
i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself
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just got the sg2 lte skyrocket, cost me nothing, actually received $10 back buying from costco, so byebye g1, this new phone is fast, really fast, well compared to my g1, i cant go back
repast said:
After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!
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Agreed. Gingerbread, although not extremely fast, is a very nice, clean upgrade. Gb, and almost any version of it, is a interface clearly focusing on more than just performance, it offers aesthetics like nothing else.

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