[Q] Vzw galaxy tab vs. galaxy tab wireless vs. xoom - Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently bought the vzw galaxy tab. I was interested in the xoom a bit until I found out they did not have it. I was told the data plan for the vzw was $20 a month. what they failed to tell me was that even though there is no contract, there is a $35 activation fee, plus the $20 for 1gb of data. If you cancel the service and decide you need it again, then there is another $35 activation fee all over again. With a decent warranty and a buy back plan, I paid almost 600 for the device. I recently saw the tab wireless only version on sale for $350. I have not opened the box yet because I also heard there are problems with porting video etc through the hdmi to a tv. Should I return the vzw one and buy the $349 one? I would not use the data plan with that high of a cost. Is there any difference between the two other than the 3g option? Or, should I invest in the xoom?; since that is where things are going and most apps don't seem to fit the gtab from what I have now read.

Take it back get the wi-fi only version. Add $480 over two years for less than 1g a month. You will have paid over $1000 for the gtab over two years.
Phone plus gtab would cost you / me $50 month for data. Verizon has to make changes to there model.
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vgtab vs wireless gtab
Thanks, I will do that. They were not requiring me to get the verizon plan, said it was no longer required, but it still cost more for something that I do not intend to use.

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[Q] Deals on the Bionic

Just wondering what kind of deals people have seen on the Bionic. It almost seems like 3rd parties werent really pushing this phone. I know Costco had an ad with some accessories, but I also saw in the ad that it might not be on opening day.
Has anyone else seen anything worthwhile?
unfortunately nothing special as of yet. i have heard that you can do the $100 off trade-in deal if you are upgrading from a non-smart phone. other then that just accessories.
I got the 100 off for using a non smart phone upgrade then 50 off the new every two rebate. See what happens.
Phone Arena's reporting Costco's doing $280 + a nice accessories bundle.
I was in Costco today. They said they would have 8 tomorrow at this store. He wouldn't say the price but claimed it came with $170 worth of accessories including a dock. He did say they would be cheaper than the Verizon stores.
I am seriously considering this phone instead of my Droid Charge.
Im getting rid of my Charge for this phone. I just cant take the battery drain any more.
I wonder if Amazon or anyone else will be running big specials.
mrhunter602 said:
Im getting rid of my Charge for this phone. I just cant take the battery drain any more.
I wonder if Amazon or anyone else will be running big specials.
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Probably be some deals within a couple weeks, but I doubt it this week.
I just logged into my verizon and the upgrade price they have for me is $249. I totally expected $299.
I got this price by logging into the main phone account on a family plan and attempting to upgrade a secondary line.
$249 at amazonwireless
$50 for NE2, $30 off as loyalty bonus, free o/n shipping.
So one major gripe most reviewers had has been reduced. At $219, unlimited data and rooting it seems like a better deal, somewhat worthy of the delay.
I guess all new smartphones would receive such discount, but by most accounts the bionic is a capable phone and a significant jump from my D1.
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Im getting rid of my Charge for this phone. I just cant take the battery drain any more.
I wonder if Amazon or anyone else will be running big specials.
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Amazon had it for $199 as of a couple hours ago.
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Amazon had it for $199 as of a couple hours ago.
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For new customers only, unfortunately. Upgrade is $249.
wow didnt know verizon had it cheaper. was about to go to BJ's to buy it as I usually do, since the price for the phone is generally the same and they have better deals on the accessories. Thanks for saving me the money.
EDIT: just went to VZW and it only wants to give me a price of $289 with no loyalty bonus. I am part of a family plan but that shouldnt matter. I have been eligible since july for upgrade. amazonwireless says its backordered.
Checked this morning and:
Wirefly.com was $249
Amazon.com was $199 ( backordered)
Letstalk.com was $199
I'm hoping BJs/Costco will drop the price to $199 and waive the activation fee for me
Walmart.com also has it for $199. stores don't have them yet. Just checked. Don't want to wait though. Plus I'm always paranoid about a 3rd party seller screwing up my plan and charging me extra. Especially my unlimited plan.
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$269 in store plus $100 trade-in credit for old phone when adding a line.
Can anyone confirm the $249 price with verizon for upgrading a current line?
I am secondary on a family plan, and my upgrade isn't until 9/13, but the extra $50 off makes the deal a little easier to swallow. As far as loyalty, we have been good customers for at least 5 years, not sure how they do their calculations as to who is "loyal"
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Can anyone confirm the $249 price with verizon for upgrading a current line?
I am secondary on a family plan, and my upgrade isn't until 9/13, but the extra $50 off makes the deal a little easier to swallow. As far as loyalty, we have been good customers for at least 5 years, not sure how they do their calculations as to who is "loyal"
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I am also secondary on a family plan and the best I got was $289. Just got mine a little while ago. Been with verizon for 8 years, but only 2 have been on the family plan I am now. Guess they dont count the other time before that.
Kyledoo said:
Can anyone confirm the $249 price with verizon for upgrading a current line?
I am secondary on a family plan, and my upgrade isn't until 9/13, but the extra $50 off makes the deal a little easier to swallow. As far as loyalty, we have been good customers for at least 5 years, not sure how they do their calculations as to who is "loyal"
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My mistake, this price was listed on my verizon for me because I had a $50 phone credit that I was unaware of. When I asked the verizon rep he said that all family plans are credited this $50 every 20 months.
I went in to the store today and got the Bionic for $289 without an upgrade and almost 50% off some accessories. Got the phone $589, a extended battery and door $49.99, case and holster $29.99, HDMI dock $99.99, and screen protectors $12.99 plus 24.43 tax and out the door for $431.63. Saved $375.75

Verizon's "Screw Everyone Plan"

OK, so I realized that our long standing unlimited plans are going away. Fair enough, but I've finally done the math and we are all going to get boned in a BIG way (minimum of 25% increase in bill). This is almost enough to go back to the dark ages and forget my stupid cell phone service all together. But before I take the leap out into the vast void, I figured maybe someone else was pawing over this and done some research of their own?
So here's the question I pose:
What's the smartest route to go now? I've been thinking about coverage issues, and obviously Verizon has the biggest reach, but I'm thinking this last "less than tactful" boning was the last straw.
Is anyone else about to flush Verizon, or am I alone in this?
6GB + Cell = $120. 4GB + Cell = $100. I'm not sure whether to laugh, or cry?
I'm paying ~$70... Umm... Seems like Verizon is the new Ma Bell on the block?
Verizon has definitely screwed over the single phone customers.
with that, it's not any better... $59.99 for 450 minutes/unlimited text, plus $30 for 2GB of data
a huge savings of $10.
edit: forgot to mention, if you want more than 2GB, you have to go with the Shared Everything plan even though you're just one person. totally blows.
mrhomiec said:
Verizon has definitely screwed over the single phone customers.
with that, it's not any better... $59.99 for 450 minutes/unlimited text, plus $30 for 2GB of data
a huge savings of $10.
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Ah... Unlimited text. Hmm.. I forgot people are big into texting. OK, so I guess this won't be a system shock for everyone like it is for me. More like slowly turning up the heat on the frog in the pot.
I currently pay about $82 a month for 4GB 450 minutes and 250 texts with nights and weekends and mobile to mobile I don't even get close to the limits on anything. If I had to switch to the share 1GB would be $90 and the 4GB like I have now would be $110 and that doesn't even include taxes and fees. You can get the prepaid smart phone with 1GB for $80 but even that would be more that we are paying now. The only people who save money with these plans are going to be people with multiple devices that don't use a lot of data. It's a good deal if you use a lot of minutes or text a lot, but there are so many alternatives you can use that I cant see this being good for anyone really. I will stay as long as I can keep my current plan otherwise I will just switch to Sprint.
Was just looking at Sprint...
jrb0408 said:
I currently pay about $82 a month for 4GB 450 minutes and 250 texts with nights and weekends and mobile to mobile I don't even get close to the limits on anything. If I had to switch to the share 1GB would be $90 and the 4GB like I have now would be $110 and that doesn't even include taxes and fees. You can get the prepaid smart phone with 1GB for $80 but even that would be more that we are paying now. The only people who save money with these plans are going to be people with multiple devices that don't use a lot of data. It's a good deal if you use a lot of minutes or text a lot, but there are so many alternatives you can use that I cant see this being good for anyone really. I will stay as long as I can keep my current plan otherwise I will just switch to Sprint.
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Based on the reviews here in Colorado, and the price difference, as well as the good selection of phones, I'm 99% confident that if Verizon doesn't pull their heads out by summer/fall of next year, I'm jumping to Sprint as well.
This is why I haven't been looking to upgrade. Red might loose a long time customer.
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I currently pay about $82 a month for 4GB 450 minutes and 250 texts with nights and weekends and mobile to mobile I don't even get close to the limits on anything. If I had to switch to the share 1GB would be $90 and the 4GB like I have now would be $110 and that doesn't even include taxes and fees. You can get the prepaid smart phone with 1GB for $80 but even that would be more that we are paying now. The only people who save money with these plans are going to be people with multiple devices that don't use a lot of data. It's a good deal if you use a lot of minutes or text a lot, but there are so many alternatives you can use that I cant see this being good for anyone really. I will stay as long as I can keep my current plan otherwise I will just switch to Sprint.
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I currently pay around $150 with 1 smart phone and 4 basic. 1400 mins and 150 mb. The new Screw me plan for the exact same except 2 gb would cost me $220 and I lose most of an employee discount for where I work. I checked T-Mobile and they have a comparable plan to where I'm at and u would wind up paying right around where I am right one. Vzw will lose this customer from 1999.
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I had 2 phone line with 1400 mins shared and 4g on each phone. I used all 4 every month and my wife hardly used any. I also had unlimited texting. Now i have unlimited calls and texting and 4 g shared and im saving 30 a month. So i guess it helped me out. Seeing as we were only using 4g a month anyways.
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I'm currently grandfathered in with unlimited text and data and pretty much refuse to sign a new contract under these new guidelines so I will just keep this plan I have and won't bother buying my phones from them now if their gonna try to charge me full retail, I just picked up a new nexus for $300 on ebay FU Verizon!!!
same boat here... im grandfathered in under the old unlimited plan, but once this contract is up come next May, im jumping on my wife's family share plan with Sprint. Then ill have a better phone, unlimited everything again, and only pay 35.00 per/mo since its chipping in on the plan. WAY better then the 76.00 im paying now and that includes an 18% corperate discount..
Seriously Verizon? get real.
jaymazz13 said:
I'm currently grandfathered in with unlimited text and data and pretty much refuse to sign a new contract under these new guidelines so I will just keep this plan I have and won't bother buying my phones from them now if their gonna try to charge me full retail, I just picked up a new nexus for $300 on ebay FU Verizon!!!
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word it's all about just not upping on a new contract. well worth the price of a phone
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word it's all about just not upping on a new contract. well worth the price of a phone
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I am thinking going the ebay route, but I am afraid I will get a stolen phone....
I'm grandfathered in on my unlimited too. I got my Revo before they made the upgrade change...lucky me...I have my DX to my partner and her D1 to our daughter. My daughter doesn't need a 4G phone...and because my partner only uses her phone to call people...and doesn't need a 4G either.
I pay way too much a month for only 2000 shared minutes...family and friends (10)...unlimited text and data = $245 on 3 lines.
We is decide to buy Amazon or eBay for upgrades if we decide to get better phones for them.
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I am thinking going the ebay route, but I am afraid I will get a stolen phone....
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even if you buy retail i think it's still worth it for the unlimited data.. that being said usually stolen phones won't come with the box & docs so that's a safe way to tell
I bought my past few phones off craigslist, cheaper than ebay, and I always have them meet me at a verizon store.
So you have Verizon activate the phone and then you pay the person you're buying it from after you know it's good to go?
YUP! Well that's what happened last time. Most of the time you can just meet at the Verizon store and have one of the clerks check the ESN# to make sure it hasn't been reported lost or stolen, so normally you dont need to have the seller wait round for activation.
Great tip!
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even if you buy retail i think it's still worth it for the unlimited data.. that being said usually stolen phones won't come with the box & docs so that's a safe way to tell
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I agree. I sold my REVO and got a Galaxy Nexus so I could keep my unlimited, and I'll never buy a phone from a Verizon store again. I'll keep upgrading via ebay or craigslist and just keep replacing my phone. That way I never have to renew my contract and I get to keep unlimited.
I'm on a family plan. Does this mean upgrading any phone would cause a change in the plan for all of us? I don't think I could hold off all the family members very long to keep the old plan.
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Cheapest place to buy Exhibit

Where's the cheapest place to buy the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit? The cheapest Exhibits that I could find are at Walmart ($175) or the T-Mobile website ($200 w/ free $50 refill card).
HSN has it for $130 with goodies. Check out slickdeals thread.
http://m.slickdeals.net/f/5635106-S...e-129-95-Free-Shipping-New-HSN-Customers-Only
I bought mine used from craigslist. Came with everything including a silicone case for $80 :good:
But if you're planning to buy new, I wouldn't. You could spend the same amount of money (roughly $150) on a better phone if you're buying one lightly used. Don't feel bad about buying used - most people take really good care of their phones, so as long as you check it out before paying, you could snag a really good deal. I've seen Nexus S's go as cheap as $120 locally, plus a number of other comparable devices in the same price range. Not trying to bash the Exhibit (even though it sucks royally on Gingerbread) but I'm just pointing out that there are better options for the price.
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Where's the cheapest place to buy the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit? The cheapest Exhibits that I could find are at Walmart ($175) or the T-Mobile website ($200 w/ free $50 refill card).
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EBay, used for around 90$ or if you want it new, Walmart with 30$ a month/ plan
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steventrannn said:
Where's the cheapest place to buy the Samsung Galaxy Exhibit? The cheapest Exhibits that I could find are at Walmart ($175) or the T-Mobile website ($200 w/ free $50 refill card).
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I got mine for free from T Mobile [Joined just a year ago, that's the phone I chose to get when I joined]
But, if you aren't a first joiner, then you will have to pay like 100 dollars or more, roughly about 170, if you have an upcoming upgrade for T Moble, or of any other carrier, It would probably be more.
Bloodflame said:
I bought mine used from craigslist. Came with everything including a silicone case for $80 :good:
But if you're planning to buy new, I wouldn't. You could spend the same amount of money (roughly $150) on a better phone if you're buying one lightly used. Don't feel bad about buying used - most people take really good care of their phones, so as long as you check it out before paying, you could snag a really good deal. I've seen Nexus S's go as cheap as $120 locally, plus a number of other comparable devices in the same price range. Not trying to bash the Exhibit (even though it sucks royally on Gingerbread) but I'm just pointing out that there are better options for the price.
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This got my interest coz for that price on a Nexus phone might just get me to upgrade my beloved Slim-beaned Samsung Exhibit 4G, until I looked at the specs on the Nexus S which is a HSDPA 7.2Mb/s device. Nope. Not for me. I used to have a 7.2Mb/s tmobile comet which when I was lucky could hit a little over 3Mb/s on speedtest. The Exhibit usually gets above 5Mb/s and I've hit 8Mb/s a couple of times on speedtest.
I tether my Nexus 7 tablet to my phone everyday, so the phone's internet speed is a major factor for me... Nexus 4 is my "wish-list" phone
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This got my interest coz for that price on a Nexus phone might just get me to upgrade my beloved Slim-beaned Samsung Exhibit 4G, until I looked at the specs on the Nexus S which is a HSDPA 7.2Mb/s device. Nope. Not for me. I used to have a 7.2Mb/s tmobile comet which when I was lucky could hit a little over 3Mb/s on speedtest. The Exhibit usually gets above 5Mb/s and I've hit 8Mb/s a couple of times on speedtest.
I tether my Nexus 7 tablet to my phone everyday, so the phone's internet speed is a major factor for me... Nexus 4 is my "wish-list" phone
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At walmart online they have $100 gift cards when you buy a smartphone with no contract sometimes.
I bought mine on craigslist for $60 but i bricked it after 2 weeks

Who bought nexus 6 on VZW edge?

I know buying it outright would probably be the best option, but i don't think that is in the cards for me currently. Leaving vzw also won't happen because the only other service around me that is decent is att, so not much choice. I could ask at a store, but i try to avoid going there if at all possible
1. Am i correct in the math that really the phone will only raise my bill by about 3.00/mo? 27.xx/mo-25 credit.
2. Is my only insurance option vzw if i do edge?
3. Currently 6mo from upgrade ( which would cost me more 249 + lack of a discount) ?
4. Do i have to surrender my note2 not purchased with edge? I would like to keep it as a backup.
4. I could do moto credit i guess, at which point in Sept. I could still get the service credit because i didn't take upgrade?
Thanks.
flyboy1100 said:
I know buying it outright would probably be the best option, but i don't think that is in the cards for me currently. Leaving vzw also won't happen because the only other service around me that is decent is att, so not much choice. I could ask at a store, but i try to avoid going there if at all possible
1. Am i correct in the math that really the phone will only raise my bill by about 3.00/mo? 27.xx/mo-25 credit.
2. Is my only insurance option vzw if i do edge?
3. Currently 6mo from upgrade ( which would cost me more 249 + lack of a discount) ?
4. Do i have to surrender my note2 not purchased with edge? I would like to keep it as a backup.
4. I could do moto credit i guess, at which point in Sept. I could still get the service credit because i didn't take upgrade?
Thanks.
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No idea
4. Yes
Your best bet is to buy the phone outright, if you buy a phone on contract you pay $50 per month per line of service. If you buy a phone outright you only pay $15 per month per line of service do the math 50x12=600 you can almost pay for the phone in one year.
This is assuming your on a similar plan to me.
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I pay 40 per line plus data. So that would be 15 instead, over 2 years i could save 600, not 2. Either way i could just save that monthly and have cash for next upgrade.
Because we have a 10GB plan, I get $25 off my monthly line access (originally $40) since I'm on Edge making my line access $15. My bill is no different than before I came to Edge. Where they get you is when you trade in your phone to Edge Up (each time).
If you have less than a 10GB plan, you'll get $15 off the monthly line access of $40 dropping it to $25.
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Because we have a 10GB plan, I get $25 off my monthly line access (originally $40) since I'm on Edge making my line access $15. My bill is no different than before I came to Edge. Where they get you is when you trade in your phone to Edge Up (each time).
If you have less than a 10GB plan, you'll get $15 off the monthly line access of $40 dropping it to $25.
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We have 10gb.
Even though im not edge now, i still need to surrender my note2 ive had for 18mo?
Do you think it is worth it? Ultimately i know buying it outright is cheaper
flyboy1100 said:
We have 10gb.
Even though im not edge now, i still need to surrender my note2 ive had for 18mo?
Do you think it is worth it? Ultimately i know buying it outright is cheaper
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I had to trade in a working phone...at the time I had the M7 but luckily I had my super old OG Droid...I just activated that on my plan right before I went in to Verizon and then sold my M7.
It depends if you can front the money for the phone outright...I could, but my wife thinks its stupid so I chose the Edge route haha.
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I know buying it outright would probably be the best option, but i don't think that is in the cards for me currently. Leaving vzw also won't happen because the only other service around me that is decent is att, so not much choice. I could ask at a store, but i try to avoid going there if at all possible
1. Am i correct in the math that really the phone will only raise my bill by about 3.00/mo? 27.xx/mo-25 credit.
2. Is my only insurance option vzw if i do edge?
3. Currently 6mo from upgrade ( which would cost me more 249 + lack of a discount) ?
4. Do i have to surrender my note2 not purchased with edge? I would like to keep it as a backup.
4. I could do moto credit i guess, at which point in Sept. I could still get the service credit because i didn't take upgrade?
Thanks.
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1. YES!!! That is if you are on a 10gb or higher plan you get the $25 discount.
2. I think you should still be able to use your own insurance still, but Verizon only offers insurance through Asurion.
3. If you are planning on keeping the N6 for the full 24 months you basically get it for ~$50 on edge b/c of the discount. If you upgrade at the 18 months though, you trade in your device to upgrade so it's not quite owning the phone.
4. Yes, when you upgrade through the edge program you trade in your old device, its kind of the trade off to being able to upgrade in 18 months (or by paying off 75% of the device) vs only every 2 years.
4 again?. Yes purchasing through Motorola has no impact on your upgrade date with Verizon.
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No idea
4. Yes
Your best bet is to buy the phone outright, if you buy a phone on contract you pay $50 per month per line of service. If you buy a phone outright you only pay $15 per month per line of service do the math 50x12=600 you can almost pay for the phone in one year.
This is assuming your on a similar plan to me.
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You must be on an older plan. For current plans (More Everything, or Single Line plans) off or on contract does not make a difference with the smartphone line access fee, only verizon edge. It's in no way cheaper to buy off contract. There may be other benefits, but not cost.
Whatever more everything plan was 18mo ago is what we are on. So in september i would not get the service credit if i didn't take my upgrade? I have read a lot, but no one ever says what plan they have when they mention that part.
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I know buying it outright would probably be the best option, but i don't think that is in the cards for me currently. Leaving vzw also won't happen because the only other service around me that is decent is att, so not much choice. I could ask at a store, but i try to avoid going there if at all possible
1. Am i correct in the math that really the phone will only raise my bill by about 3.00/mo? 27.xx/mo-25 credit.
2. Is my only insurance option vzw if i do edge?
3. Currently 6mo from upgrade ( which would cost me more 249 + lack of a discount) ?
4. Do i have to surrender my note2 not purchased with edge? I would like to keep it as a backup.
4. I could do moto credit i guess, at which point in Sept. I could still get the service credit because i didn't take upgrade?
Thanks.
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I work customer service for Verizon wireless so I completely understand not wanting to go into the store for info.
1. Yes Verizon does $25 dollar edge credits on non loyalty 6gb more everything plans and up (changed in February 6 and up get 25 off instead of 10 and up).
2. Yes and no. Yes if you intend to edge up. no if you intend to ride out the full 24 month agreement. I say this because edge agreements are based on the imei. And the only way to edge up a phone that has either had a warranty replacement or been replaced through insurance is to do an edge over ride which is only possible through assurion replaced phones or tech clnr replacements.
3. Not sure on the question.
4. Yes if you early edge you must return that device. Don't try swapping it to a crappy phone then early edging because that removes that lines eligibility for 90 days. And you would be doing ee if you're still under a contract.
3. You can keep note 2 if its out of contract and your not doing early edge
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cody11777 said:
I work customer service for Verizon wireless so I completely understand not wanting to go into the store for info.
1. Yes Verizon does $25 dollar edge credits on non loyalty 6gb more everything plans and up (changed in February 6 and up get 25 off instead of 10 and up).
2. Yes and no. Yes if you intend to edge up. no if you intend to ride out the full 24 month agreement. I say this because edge agreements are based on the imei. And the only way to edge up a phone that has either had a warranty replacement or been replaced through insurance is to do an edge over ride which is only possible through assurion replaced phones or tech clnr replacements.
3. Not sure on the question.
4. Yes if you early edge you must return that device. Don't try swapping it to a crappy phone then early edging because that removes that lines eligibility for 90 days. And you would be doing ee if you're still under a contract.
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But i am not edge now and 75% through my contract, with the 200 paid upfront haven't i already met the 75% cost? I guess i would just like to keep my unlocked otherwise fine note 2 as a backup in case something weird happens. With my job i can't go w/o a phone
when it comes to the bottom line is it worth it to switch to the edge program over full upgrade?
flyboy1100 said:
But i am not edge now and 75% through my contract, with the 200 paid upfront haven't i already met the 75% cost? I guess i would just like to keep my unlocked otherwise fine note 2 as a backup in case something weird happens. With my job i can't go w/o a phone
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Yes you would have to return it. Going from any point that's not 1 day past the end of the 2 year contract to edge is considered early edge and you must return the device currently on the line qualifying for early edge. Its how Verizon recoups the cost of you getting a new device before completing the 2 year contract where they sold you a device at a significantly discounted price. I mean the best route to take here would be to buy the phone at full retail activate it on your line then wait for the contract to run out and collect the 15 or 25 dollar month to month discount depending on the more everything plan you're on.
Yes edge is cheaper in the long run than 2 year upgrade for any high end device
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Eetabeetay said:
1. YES!!! That is if you are on a 10gb or higher plan you get the $25 discount.
2. I think you should still be able to use your own insurance still, but Verizon only offers insurance through Asurion.
3. If you are planning on keeping the N6 for the full 24 months you basically get it for ~$50 on edge b/c of the discount. If you upgrade at the 18 months though, you trade in your device to upgrade so it's not quite owning the phone.
4. Yes, when you upgrade through the edge program you trade in your old device, its kind of the trade off to being able to upgrade in 18 months (or by paying off 75% of the device) vs only every 2 years.
4 again?. Yes purchasing through Motorola has no impact on your upgrade date with Verizon.
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You must be on an older plan. For current plans (More Everything, or Single Line plans) off or on contract does not make a difference with the smartphone line access fee, only verizon edge. It's in no way cheaper to buy off contract. There may be other benefits, but not cost.
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Nope only been with Verizon since October 2014, and I know I'm only paying $15 per line where I bought my own phone. Might have been a promotion at the time?
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So for sure it sounds like in September i can start taking the service discount. I know this would be the cheapest route in the long run, just have to convince the finance manage that it is.... otherwise i will just do edge
I have a Droid Turbo in Edge, and the only issue is because they changed the Edge Up value to 75%. This means, no matter the age of the phone, to them its worth 25% of the price (in this case $162.50). Which I think is kinda crappy. Maybe, maybe, at the 18 months mark the phone on the secondary market might be worth less than $167.50. But I would think you could get more selling it yourself. For example. I have the Droid Turbo. I have had it for about 6 months. Lets say I want to buy the Nexus 6 on Edge. I have 2 options. I can pay them around $300 and give them the phone and "Edge Up" to the Nexus 6. I pay $300 out of pocket and give them the phone. Even though they can probably sell the phone for, I dunno, $400 maybe. They are only giving me $167.50 for the phone, I have to make up the rest. Or, I can pay it off in full, around $467 and I get to keep the phone. Then I can go to ebay or swappa and sell it for about that much. Leaving me out the monthly payments I have already made (could vary from phone to phone). So, at this point, I can pay them $300 or I can pay them $467 and try to get some of my money back. I sure as heck will get more than $167 for the phone.
Now lets say I am at the 18 month point. I can just give them the phone and I can "Edge Up" to a new phone. Or I can pay them $167.50 and get the phone and sell it myself. So if the phone at that time id worth $150, then yeah its a good deal. If its worth more you are better selling it.
I think I am going to wait until it is available at Costco, then i can get the good squaretrade warranty and just do the Edge thing at that time.
thanks everyone!
For the heck of it i stopped in at a store today. They told me i can only switch to edge/edge up when i am eligible for an upgrade? What is the point of edge then? Is it because it wasn't a corporate store? Or are they right? If that is the case eff vzw and i will just go monthly when my contract is up and buy a new phone outright.
flyboy1100 said:
For the heck of it i stopped in at a store today. They told me i can only switch to edge/edge up when i am eligible for an upgrade? What is the point of edge then? Is it because it wasn't a corporate store? Or are they right? If that is the case eff vzw and i will just go monthly when my contract is up and buy a new phone outright.
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If you are on a subsidized plan (i.e. you paid $200 for the phone up front and nothing more) then you do have to either wait for your upgrade or an "Early Edge" promotion (thye had one for the Droid Turbo). The reason is you are "paying" for the phone over your contract. Depending on how far from your upgrade you are you might be able to convince someone at a corporate store.

I did the math on Verizon's pricing options. Here's my analysis

For anyone wondering, I did the math on the three options provided by Verizon in terms of paying for the S6 Edge. Here are my equations, where n is sales tax. If you want to find out the cost where you live, replace n with (1+your sales tax). So if your sales tax is 9%, n=1.09:
32 GB
Verizon Edge: (29.16)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 299.99+[699.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (699.99)n=
64GB
Verizon Edge: (33.33)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 399.99+[799.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (799.99)n=
128GB
Verizon Edge: (37.49)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 499.99+[899.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (899.99)n=
For example purposes, I calculated with a sales tax of 9%. At 9%:
32 GB
Verizon Edge: $735.83
2 Yr Contract: $755.39
Full Price: $762.99
64GB
Verizon Edge: $871.91
2 Yr Contract: $864.39
Full Price: $871.99
128GB
Verizon Edge: $980.74
2 Yr Contract: $973.39
Full Price: $980.99
This only the device, not the amount you'll be spending per month in terms of data and minutes. However, the 15 dollar discount you receive for being off-contract is included in the price difference when compared to the 2 Yr Contract. I also didn't include any promotions held by Samsung, Verizon, or any other companies, as to keep this relevant for future readers.
In conclusion, inflation makes the difference between Verizon Edge and 2 Yr Contract negligible, so if you're on the fence, choose whatever you're comfortable with. Inflation also makes it much cheaper for you to pay through Verizon Edge instead of paying everything up front. So unless you're getting a significant discount somehow through a different dealer or Amazon or something, don't purchase the phone with a single payment.
+ no $40 activation fee for Verizon Edge
+ $100 bill credit to the new customer for Verizon Edge
No that best buy also sells phone with Verizon Edge, but the price is $150 higher than the Verizon Shop. I ordered mine from Verizon. I miss the preorder bonus from best buy (wireless charger), but I can find cheaper chargers in Amazon ($10 duracell bundle)
inkrededibles said:
For anyone wondering, I did the math on the three options provided by Verizon in terms of paying for the S6 Edge. Here are my equations, where n is sales tax. If you want to find out the cost where you live, replace n with (1+your sales tax). So if your sales tax is 9%, n=1.09:
32 GB
Verizon Edge: (29.16)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 299.99+[699.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (699.99)n=
64GB
Verizon Edge: (33.33)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 399.99+[799.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (799.99)n=
128GB
Verizon Edge: (37.49)(24)n=
2 Yr Contract: 499.99+[899.99(n-1)]+(15*24)n=
Full Price: (899.99)n=
For example purposes, I calculated with a sales tax of 9%. At 9%:
32 GB
Verizon Edge: $735.83
2 Yr Contract: $755.39
Full Price: $762.99
64GB
Verizon Edge: $871.91
2 Yr Contract: $864.39
Full Price: $871.99
128GB
Verizon Edge: $980.74
2 Yr Contract: $973.39
Full Price: $980.99
This only the device, not the amount you'll be spending per month in terms of data and minutes. However, the 15 dollar discount you receive for being off-contract is included in the price difference when compared to the 2 Yr Contract. I also didn't include any promotions held by Samsung, Verizon, or any other companies, as to keep this relevant for future readers.
In conclusion, inflation makes the difference between Verizon Edge and 2 Yr Contract negligible, so if you're on the fence, choose whatever you're comfortable with. Inflation also makes it much cheaper for you to pay through Verizon Edge instead of paying everything up front. So unless you're getting a significant discount somehow through a different dealer or Amazon or something, don't purchase the phone with a single payment.
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I actually did something quite similar but I simply went through the process twice on Verizon's device and plan pages.
For an S6 Edge using their 'Edge' service plan it worked out to $101.30 per month, basic service, 2GB, no addons, pre tax.
For an S6 under 2 year contract it came out to $72 and change plus the $349.99.
Running those numbers, the Edge plan cost $2431.20 over the course of 24 months. (taxes and fee's extra)
The contract rate however was $1735.2 + the $349.99 = $2085.19! (taxes and fees extra)
Now, there's the activation fee pay right? then that $30 discount for renewal but in my case an additional $100 for phone trade and the $50 mail in rebate.
Anyway, I realize your mileage may vary but according to the numbers I got off of Verizon's website, the Edge plan is an absolutely terrible option. Maybe multiple lines or large data plans might change that but for me the difference was roughly $486 savings to go with the contract.
Food for thought.
I guess you didn't count $15 / month discount for the customers with Edge program.
So basically you have to subtract 15*24 = $360 from the price.
I saw an article somewhere around the internet.. and it actually was the same price for both contract and edge including the activation fee.
But new customers are likely get $100 more benefit from the edge.
Again, existing customers can get a free gift if preorder through Best Buy.
Causality said:
I actually did something quite similar but I simply went through the process twice on Verizon's device and plan pages.
For an S6 Edge using their 'Edge' service plan it worked out to $101.30 per month, basic service, 2GB, no addons, pre tax.
For an S6 under 2 year contract it came out to $72 and change plus the $349.99.
Running those numbers, the Edge plan cost $2431.20 over the course of 24 months. (taxes and fee's extra)
The contract rate however was $1735.2 + the $349.99 = $2085.19! (taxes and fees extra)
Now, there's the activation fee pay right? then that $30 discount for renewal but in my case an additional $100 for phone trade and the $50 mail in rebate.
Anyway, I realize your mileage may vary but according to the numbers I got off of Verizon's website, the Edge plan is an absolutely terrible option. Maybe multiple lines or large data plans might change that but for me the difference was roughly $486 savings to go with the contract.
Food for thought.
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I did a 2-year contract upgrade and not sure if it was noted or not but there was a $40 upgrade fee included as well.
Hey, nice to make your acquaintance.
Unfortunately the numbers still don't pan out. I just went through and did it again, this time the contract price came out to $80 per month. not sure why I saw $72 last time and $80 this time but....
Anyway, That's the monthly price minus fees and taxes. I didn't forget to add anything, Verizon did it all on their checkout page. 80*24+40-30+200=2130.
2 year Edge: 2430
2 year Contract: 2130
I was wrong in saying $486 and for that, my bad, but no matter how you slice it, contract is cheaper for a single line plan. Unless you need to upgrade often I just can't see the point. Then again, I've been on Verizon since the bastards absorbed Alltel years ago. Now that was a good company. I've never been particularly fond of Verizon but... I'm a CDMA guy so I don't see that I have much of a choice.
Edge is cheaper.
NoFanboy said:
Edge is cheaper.
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I'm sure it is for some. For a single line, 2GB plan, no, it is not. Go to Verizon and price them both out... It's all there on their page.
Also, I believe at the higher-tier plans, you get a $25/mo discount off, not just $15. Here is a good website that breaks it down:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/03/29/galaxy-s6-verizon-edge-vs-verizon-2-year-contract-prices/
eyc said:
Also, I believe at the higher-tier plans, you get a $25/mo discount off, not just $15. Here is a good website that breaks it down:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/03/29/galaxy-s6-verizon-edge-vs-verizon-2-year-contract-prices/
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Yep minimum 8GB of data gives you -25$ Discount so add that 25$x24 months. (as a saving)
patt2k said:
Yep minimum 8GB of data gives you -25$ Discount so add that 25$x24 months. (as a saving)
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*6GB
Masciale said:
*6GB
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Yea i realized my mistake later was to lazy to edit lol
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My analysis goes like this....
I HAVE to have 64gb. 32 if MicroSD would be fine. But... that means 64 is a must since no more MicroSD.
I have unlimited data. If I go to Edge or renew my contract (I am off contract for over a year) I am forced onto a new plan AND loose unlimited. When I did the math on the prices/costs/fees of a new plan over 2 years (and unlimited data loss) VERSUS just outright keeping the phone and plan and data and no contract I have now, buying the phone outright wins in a dollars to dollars comparison.
9% sales tax omg where is that at!?!
California - many cities have 8-9 percent sakes tax.
Edge is more beautiful than S6 I think.
patt2k said:
Yep minimum 8GB of data gives you -25$ Discount so add that 25$x24 months. (as a saving)
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I have no idea if VZW was bull****ting with me, but they said that if you are on a family plan and the aggregate total data the family can use is at a certain level (in my wife's case, 16 GB), then everyone on the plan can get $25/mo off by switching to Edge. That sounded too good to be true, but they let my wife go to Edge and save $25/mo on the family plan.
eyc said:
I have no idea if VZW was bull****ting with me, but they said that if you are on a family plan and the aggregate total data the family can use is at a certain level (in my wife's case, 16 GB), then everyone on the plan can get $25/mo off by switching to Edge. That sounded too good to be true, but they let my wife go to Edge and save $25/mo on the family plan.
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they trolling you don't worry. All that has to be is at least 6GB data plan for -25$ either out of contract or on edge. Can't really believie reps these days especially last month they tried to make do an upgrade like twice when I was asking for something else and out of nowhere they were telling me that I asked for upgrade 2 weeks earlier and I never did lol.
patt2k said:
they trolling you don't worry. All that has to be is at least 6GB data plan for -25$ either out of contract or on edge. Can't really believie reps these days especially last month they tried to make do an upgrade like twice when I was asking for something else and out of nowhere they were telling me that I asked for upgrade 2 weeks earlier and I never did lol.
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Yea, I hear ya. So, let's say 4 people are on a family plan that has 12GB/month total data available. Can all 4 people go on Edge and each save $25? That's what VZW was telling me.
eyc said:
Yea, I hear ya. So, let's say 4 people are on a family plan that has 12GB/month total data available. Can all 4 people go on Edge and each save $25? That's what VZW was telling me.
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In this case yes unless I misunderstood your last post that would be correct. As long as there is a minimum of 6GB data package on all your lines you would get 25$/per line per-edge phone or if you are out of contract.
Hope that helps

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