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3G Speed on Kaiser

So we finally have 3G in Minneapolis. But i am disappointed about the actual 3G speed. I have HSPA enabled and only get speeds between 350 and 600 kbits/sec. I was in Germany 2 weeks ago and with a Vodafone pre-paid SIM Card i was routinely getting speeds between 800 kbits/sec to 1.2 mb/sec.
Is ATT 3G in the USA inferior to 3G in Germany?
As i am trying to figure this out, i do notice that i only connect to the internet using Medianet. I do not have an isp through ATT. Does an ISP connection make a significant difference as far as 3G speed is concerned?

What speeds are you guys getting her in Minneapolis?

Those sound like pretty standard 3G speeds for the region. I am getting the same speeds in Milwaukee which isn't that far away from you.

I get 750 in detroit

3G Speed in Minneapolis
I use isp.cingular for 3G and see speeds between 567 and 997 mb/s. I'm very pleased with the increase.

What are you using to test the speed with? Let me know and I'll test it. I'm in Roseville right now...I live in Mpls so I can test that later tonight.
.:Christian:.

i use this one
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
with the 1mb file which you get after the other files are too small
which takes you to
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1

#1 375 kbit/sec on a 1MB file.
#2 513 kbit/sec on a 1MB file.
#3 321 kbit/sec on a 1MB file.
.:Christian:.

Question: isp.cingular did you call cingular to request your account to be setup for it? I had it working before but now I get an error saying the modem is not responding.
As for speeds with 3g the fastest I ever reached was 1046 kbit/s now I get 774 kbit/s roughly.

WOW!! That is damn fast
kb/s I think...
ronleut said:
I use isp.cingular for 3G and see speeds between 567 and 997 mb/s. I'm very pleased with the increase.
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Keep in mind that whenever I've run a speed test with PIE, it's always reported a far slower speed than other browsers...

GermanGuy said:
So we finally have 3G in Minneapolis. But i am disappointed about the actual 3G speed. I have HSPA enabled and only get speeds between 350 and 600 kbits/sec. I was in Germany 2 weeks ago and with a Vodafone pre-paid SIM Card i was routinely getting speeds between 800 kbits/sec to 1.2 mb/sec.
Is ATT 3G in the USA inferior to 3G in Germany?
As i am trying to figure this out, i do notice that i only connect to the internet using Medianet. I do not have an isp through ATT. Does an ISP connection make a significant difference as far as 3G speed is concerned?
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3G and HSDPA are two different thing, HSDPA is also known as 3.5G, the results you get is about right.
kms

Is this HDSPA?

I recently noticed an H logo in only a few places in my house, this is there instead of 3g or Edge. Outside, I don't get the H logo. Why is this and is this the infamous 7 Megabits?

They are both the same thing, 3g/h. It could be an old logo from the theme or rom, but most only have the 3g and e logos.

evilkorn said:
They are both the same thing, 3g/h. It could be an old logo from the theme or rom, but most only have the 3g and e logos.
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on some themes(Nabzilla) he uses H instead of 3G this is one instance.on some hero roms H is used instead of 3G. I think H looks better than the 3G icon.

I know for me, I have both 3g and H depending in where I am. H is faster than regular 3g

JAguirre1231 said:
I know for me, I have both 3g and H depending in where I am. H is faster than regular 3g
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yeah same here! my ping is only 150 on H and on 3g its over 200. Proves that it's the faster 3.5gish HDSPA t-mobile rolled out

Thats **HSDPA**, not HDSPA.

Speedtest.net - What's your speed?

Round them up! Download the free app from the market (keyword: Speedtest.net).
In this video, I'm showing an actual 3G speed test using an older 64K SmartChip SIM card with the Cingular logo on it. AT&T claims my speed will improve if I use their new SIM card (does it really? If it does, let me know and I'll make the switch.) At the end of the video, you will see a series of speed tests in my history. I've averaged between 2-3 Mbps download and about 0.3 Mbps upload. This may seem slow compared to what other people are getting. My Captivate is stock and unmolested (for now).
So, what's your speed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHMXSRJgFRk

Just ran the test.
1879 down, 254 up Captivate on 3G
My last 3 phones (fastest to slowest)
Captivate > 3gs > iP4
The Captivate and 3gs tests were with the same SIM card. The iP4 would never go over 100kbps upload.

Damn, I'm only getting about 1.5 mb/s dl and .2 mb/s ul using 3G with full signal strength. On wifi I get about 5mb/s dl and .7 mb/s ul

5mbps down 800 kbps up. But I'm in the wrong forum.
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478 Down, 365 Up

Shane_pcs said:
5mbps down 800 kbps up. But I'm in the wrong forum.
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Must be the wrong carrier too, 5M down????

Wifi - 2793 dn 1009 up
3g - 1767 dn 383 up
Rocklin CA
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1170 down
175 up
3 bars

I get about 6mb down and 1.5 up with 4G. Portland, Oregon.

nickfreno said:
I get about 6mb down and 1.5 up with 4G. Portland, Oregon.
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And after a 4 mile drive east, you get zilch.
Good for you!

I had 3264 down and 371 up last time I ran it.
Generally get from 2000 to 3300 down, and anywhere from 150 to almost 400 up with a full signal.

IT doesn't bother me right now... 4G is a work in progress.
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And after a 4 mile drive east, you get zilch.
Good for you!
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That's why I stay within a 400ft radius
I accually keep the 4G off anyway. 3G suits me just fine with around 2mb down and half a meg upload.

7:20am, in my office, San Diego. I just did a test again with only 4 bars.
3.22 Mbps down
0.37 Mbps up
Nice.

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I don't get good signal to test the 3G, but I can tell you that the wifi on the phone is faster than any laptop on my network.
WiFi: 1.3mb/s down, 130kb/s up

2206 kbps down
393 kbps up
with 5 bars of signal, daytona Bch, FL

Okay, finally made it back home.
5 bars
3,344 down
341 up

bump
3.1 down
1.1 up
any way to make it go faster?

On AT&T's 3G data
5 Mbps down and 3 Mbps up!
JK4 modem in Dallas fort worth area

This thread would be quite useful if u guys posted the modems ur using (next to location) to get those speeds
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What does the H mean on my cell (noob question)

Ok so I switched my rom to the phoenix rom and I was wondering what the H means, where it usually said 3G? Is the H faster than 3G? Is that 4G? Is the speeds in this order E,G,3G,H,4G? Thanks for answering my n00b question

fly2dm00n said:
Ok so I switched my rom to the phoenix rom and I was wondering what the H means, where it usually said 3G? Is the H faster than 3G? Is that 4G? Is the speeds in this order E,G,3G,H,4G? Thanks for answering my n00b question
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The h is for hsdpa which does have faster download speed. Flashing an i9000 rom allows that frequency.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.

H means 3G.

defnow said:
H means 3G.
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Uhhhh....what?
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.

The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G

MikeyMike01 said:
The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
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So what you are saying is h = holy [email protected]# this is fast

MikeyMike01 said:
The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
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Unless everything I have read and the arguments on this very forum are wrong, we are enabling HSDPA, as the phone is already capable of HSUPA. \
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-hsdpa.htm
More info on this subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837716&highlight=wifi+battery
So unless I am reading things wrong is it not this way?

flashman2002 said:
Unless everything I have read and the arguments on this very forum are wrong, we are enabling HSDPA, as the phone is already capable of HSUPA. \
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-hsdpa.htm
HSDPA is not 3G, it is 3.5G which would be the reason we see an H. THe link you posted even states HSUPA is 3G...so I would say you have your info backwards. Even on the phone with an I9000 ROM it says HSDPA for mobile network type.
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i think you have it backwards....even on stock the phone will say HSDPA because thats what 3g is....
HSUPA is what gets unlocked by using an i9000 modem....as in the UPLOAD speed. it increases, just try it.
from what i understand, the H doesnt mean SQUAT. in the rest of the world the H is their standard network, akin to what we have that ATT calls 3g (only not gimped by those iphone loving [email protected]$%*!&)....its a png file in the framework, it could be changed to F if so desired....its a meaningless icon

Pirateghost said:
i think you have it backwards....even on stock the phone will say HSDPA because thats what 3g is....
HSUPA is what gets unlocked by using an i9000 modem....as in the UPLOAD speed. it increases, just try it.
from what i understand, the H doesnt mean SQUAT. in the rest of the world the H is their standard network, akin to what we have that ATT calls 3g (only not gimped by those iphone loving [email protected]$%*!&)....its a png file in the framework, it could be changed to F if so desired....its a meaningless icon
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Hell maybe I do...I am just going back to all the arguments and stuff I have read that we are enabling HSDPA by use of the I9000 Rom. I am not always sure with this kind of stuff but my bad if what I posted and the way I interpret it are not correct. And I couldn't get my ninja edit in fast enough haha.

MikeyMike01 said:
The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
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Yep, downloads are gtg...it's the upload. It's one feature, for me at least, that I'm not too worried about. However, I may decide to become a Youtube freak and want to upload tons of videos...I should at least have the option to do so efficiently given the hardware in this phone is capable of it. This IS a perfect example of where AT&T should be blamed for something.
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Saying 3G and HSDPA are one in the same is semantically incorrect, but practically speaking, it's close to correct. It's more like 3G with a bit of a boost. One difference is the transport layer, HS-DSCH. So, it's 3G, further evolved.

I'm sorry, but none of you have it completely correct.
Umts is 3g. Hsdpa is 3.5g for download speeds. Hsupa is 3.5g for upload speeds.
Att does not allow any of its phones to display anything but edge and 3g indicators by the signal bars. The 3g can actually means umts, hsdpa, or hsupa (on phones that support it). The i9000 based roms display the indicator more correctly. 3g means umts only. 'H' means hsdpa or hsupa. This is how the symbols are displayed on every other network.
Edit: also, att does allow hsdpa on stock captivates. It only stops hsupa.

k2snowboards88 said:
I'm sorry, but none of you have it completely correct.
Umts is 3g. Hsdpa is 3.5g for download speeds. Hsupa is 3.5g for upload speeds.
Att does not allow any of its phones to display anything but edge and 3g indicators by the signal bars. The 3g can actually means umts, hsdpa, or hsupa (on phones that support it). The i9000 based roms display the indicator more correctly. 3g means umts only. 'H' means hsdpa or hsupa. This is how the symbols are displayed on every other network.
Edit: also, att does allow hsdpa on stock captivates. It only stops hsupa.
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Well, this is my understanding exactly. Perhaps you put it in a more articulate fashion; it's what I meant by my post, albeit with less technical details.
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So, the answer, OP, is the H means you now have faster upload capability. In practical terms, an H on a Captivate means you have HSUPA; you always had HSDPA.
Oh, and technically, they are all UMTS.

It will still display the H even if you are only in a hsdpa area without hsupa, however.

Actually hsupa allows for a faster download as well during testing. How idk. But speed test went from 4mb to 6mb when switching types.
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skatcat31 said:
Actually hsupa allows for a faster download as well during testing. How idk. But speed test went from 4mb to 6mb when switching types.
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Same here mine when from like 1.5mbs on eclair to topped out like 6.5 on perception v4 and pheonix roms
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4g
Is this going to be an advantage when at&t goes to 4g ??...or is the 3.5 actually 4g?

4g
so is this going to be an advantage when at&t goes 4g???.....(having a 1900 rom that has ''H'')

skatcat31 said:
Actually hsupa allows for a faster download as well during testing. How idk. But speed test went from 4mb to 6mb when switching types.
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It improves download speeds because most IP communications are TCP or session based, meaning there is an acknowledgement sent back to verify receipt of packets. The sender has to wait for the acknowledgements before sending more data, therefore if the upload portion is significantly slower (due to higher latency or lower bandwidth) the acknowledgements take longer and the overall transmission speed is decreased.
I have seen a dramatic increase in over all performance when using apps that rely on a data connection (Android Market, Google Maps) when using HSUPA vs. HSDPA. The overall bandwidth or download speed may or may not be higher but responsiveness is much improved.

vuoflfan said:
so is this going to be an advantage when at&t goes 4g???.....(having a 1900 rom that has ''H'')
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Hello I have an infuse running [2.3.6] AEON v1.4SL on straight talk
I have H+ or EDGE but I don't get a 4G indicator in 4G areas?
Am I missing out on the 4G speeds due to the modem I am using?
Do I need to install a different modem to get the 4G speeds?
Thankyou

hootiehoo said:
Hello I have an infuse running [2.3.6] AEON v1.4SL on straight talk
I have H+ or EDGE but I don't get a 4G indicator in 4G areas?
Am I missing out on the 4G speeds due to the modem I am using?
Do I need to install a different modem to get the 4G speeds?
Thankyou
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A 4G indicator as seen on many of the newer phones usually indicates a connection to an actual 4G LTE connection which would be what is considered "real 4G." The Infuse doesn't support LTE, but supports HSPA+ a.k.a H+ which is 21 Mbps max download speeds as opposed to the 7.2 max on the Captivate. It is essentially a step between HSPA and LTE, hence HSPA+.

3g vs h thing

I have a rom that has the option to use
3g or h. I believe h stands for hspda?
Anyway I was just trying to get your opinion on which is better. And please tell me the pro/con of it. So far I only know that h is faster in data but use more battery…
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bluemoon1221 said:
I have a rom that has the option to use
3g or h. I believe h stands for hspda?
Anyway I was just trying to get your opinion on which is better. And please tell me the pro/con of it. So far I only know that h is faster in data but use more battery…
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H stands for HSUPA, or High-Speed Uplink Packet Access. There isn't a noticeable difference in battery between 3G and HSUPA. HSUPA is definitely worth it in terms of speed vs battery.

ytt3r said:
H stands for HSUPA, or High-Speed Uplink Packet Access. There isn't a noticeable difference in battery between 3G and HSUPA. HSUPA is definitely worth it in terms of speed vs battery.
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This is true if HSPA is supported in your area. However for ppl like me, 3G has a very reliable signal in my area and I can get DL speeds almost equal to those of HSPA here and using 3G consumes less battery as well. So thats why I went with 3G.

Umts is 3g. Hsdpa is 3.5g for download speeds. Hsupa is 3.5g for upload speeds.
Att does not allow any of its phones to display anything but edge and 3g indicators by the signal bars. The 3g can actually means umts, hsdpa, or hsupa (on phones that support it). The i9000 based roms display the indicator more correctly. 3g means umts only. 'H' means hsdpa or hsupa. This is how the symbols are displayed on every other network.

I was using 3g for awhile and I decided to try h and it didn't seemed to have a difference on battery. So I'm just using h now

H IS 3G!!!

MikeyMike01 said:
H IS 3G!!!
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Think you'll need to make this bigger because I'm sure will see another thread in a few hours asking the SAME thing!

MikeyMike01 said:
H IS 3G!!!
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Good stuff right there!

Ah, thats helpful I was confused and thought that H was worse than 3g. Thanks

balancing both sides
MikeyMike01 said:
H IS 3G!!!
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lol.. TRUE, but mathematically balancing the equation,
H = 3g + HSUPA

rickysa2000 said:
lol.. TRUE, but mathematically balancing the equation,
H = 3g + HSUPA
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H = 3g + (hsdpa and/or hsupa)

k2snowboards88 said:
H = 3g + (hsdpa and/or hsupa)
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uhm.. even with HSDPA enabled and HSUPA disabled, the phone shows 3g!
So, not true!

rickysa2000 said:
uhm.. even with HSDPA enabled and HSUPA disabled, the phone shows 3g!
So, not true!
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Att bars manufacturers from shipping phones that display the h icon no matter what. On the roms that actually display the h icon, it works the way I described in my last post.

k2snowboards88 said:
H = 3g + (hsdpa and/or hsupa)
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k2snowboards88 said:
Att bars manufacturers from shipping phones that display the h icon no matter what. On the roms that actually display the h icon, it works the way I described in my last post.
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this and this
i really have a hard time about the confusion of that little letter....it actually doesnt mean anything...its an icon that displays that you have DATA....leave it at that

So I should just use 3g??
H is 3g???
I don't get what y'all are talking about..
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bluemoon1221 said:
So I should just use 3g??
H is 3g???
I don't get what y'all are talking about..
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IT DOESNT MATTER
stop worrying about it and flash a rom you like