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I ASK THAT YOU READ ALL THIS BEFORE I GET TO THE FIX, BECAUSE THIS IS A MULTILAYERED TOPIC. I WANT EVERYONE TO READ THIS, NOT JUST DEVS OR SENIORS, BUT ALL THE LURKERS AND MEMBERS WHO'VE NEVER POSTED. I WILL ACCEPT ALL SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS.
THAT MEANS YOU. AND YOU. AND THATS RIGHT...EVEN YOU!
IN THIS POST, I WILL DISCUSS BRIEFLY MY PLANS FOR THE FUTURE OF MY HERO, HOW I WILL BRING MY SUCCESS TO PHONES AROUND THE USA, HOW I WILL JOIN THE LEAUGES OF DAMAGE, AND FLIPZ, AND ESPECIALLY DARCH, WHO WHILE WATCHED FROM A DISTANCE, WHEN THE TIME CAME FOR IT, BROUGHT ME THE ANSWER. AT THE END, I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION, TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE FIX[EDIT: REALITY; COMING SOON][sooner with your support!]
3 year lurker. xda is the only forum I've taken apart of in the community, and to a small sucess. I've actaully managed to help, learn, and now its time I give back to the community.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE I HAVE THE SKILLS REQUIRED TO BRING SOMETHING NEW TO THE TABLE, AND HAVE ENOUGH TO SPLIT IT BETWEEN EVERY PERSON SITTING AT THAT TABLE. WILL YOU JOIN ME AT THIS TABLE?
If anyone has ever looked at my profile, then you know I've only been a member since March 25th, and have been made a senior in just over a week(not that I'm bragging...). I'm no spammer, all my posts have been legit, and I have actually helped people. I still consider myself a noob, but I do believe I have earned my seniority, and hopefully the support of all the main devs, who have helped me beyond belief, and have responded to any major question I had, especially with what Ive been working on lately.
If you've logged on within the past 2 weeks, and followed my posts at all, then you know that even if I dont know the answer, I offer suggestions, and more importantly support. I distinguish flames, stomp on the trolls, and still manage to bring my ideas to the table, so its time to test and see if I can make these idea's come true.
I cannot do this without your help.
I am now going to quote one the the best devs on this forum, with the fix.
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mountaindont said:
wanna hop over on my trackball fix thread?
im so damn close, i can see the lights!
...get it?
im uploading the directory we gotta mess with now. i just know you can help!!
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I think you're best bet would be to write an app to keep the trackball light forever on instead of trying to rewrite most of the frameworks and deal with all the dependencies to fix the trackball light.
if you really want to go and make the trackball stay always on by rewriting some code, i'd suggest you first look inside the framework jars with baksmali and find any lines which reference to the trackball, and see if you can somehow manipulate it to constantly echo 1 to the trackball led device in /dev to constantly stay on.
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If I'm going to start understanding the Android platform to the degree that Darch and co do, the best place to start would be writing my first application (this will expose me to the framework, the commands, and how to manipulate the OS like never before). Something I've looked into, and have tried a couple things.
-keeping in mind, that in all reality, Sprints final release will give the option to decide light or touch responsive...at least, I hope so...-
I get my laptop back tomaro, and I will be studying the SDK to the T, and with the support of you guys, I will write an app to work on any 2.1 ROM, that will give you the option to keep the trackball light on or let it remain light sensitive[beta, first release] and eventually, options that will blow your mind. Things that handcent might incorporate, so you only have to use this app to pimp out the stock messaging app. Speed of flash. Customize vibration. Haptic feedback when clicking the trackball (links, function buttons, or just sitting on your homescreen, and you get that urge to just enjoy the pleasure of your customized vibration.) [future release, always FREE]
I dont know how long it will take me to learn the SDK enough to set something up from nothing and make this farfetched idea. I was hoping that someone could give me the scource code to a related app; handcent would be amazing, but something like Trackball Alert for the nexus one (its something, not nothing :-\) would be cool too. Or if you have programming skills, please, lets team up, I'm reading tutorials now. If I can complete "Hello Android", I'm sure I can make this happen.
THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT I ASK OF THE ENTIRE XDA COMMUNITY (lurkers, seniors, devs, and members who just want to test and give feed back)
WILL YOU SUPPORT ME?
If I ask a question (dont worry, this thread your reading now has gone through four topic changes to avoid clutter, I'll be sticking with this thread for updates, releases, and changelogs -
I might start one more thread to keep up on bugs-) will you help? Will you subscribe and help my idea come to life, and bring a whole new customization option app. Will the main devs take part, seeing as how this app could very well be included in future releases of their ROMS (I'll talk about my ROM idea's in another update) Will the seniors with a sick attitude be able to put their frustrations and rude answers in their pocket while posting in this thread? Bring positive energy in, with advice and sugestions, and crys of "good luck!"?
If its a team effort, its hardly an effort at all.
the basis of what what we have so far. i know what files need to be edited, this time im sure its [sys/class/leds/button-backlight] in this directory, there are sensor files, a "trigger file"(quite sure this will play a major role) that contains a series of commands that seem to tell the backlights and sensors how and when to act. I'm sure apps like Handcent and Trackball alert mess with the same files (and if not, what do they mess with to make these changes? would installing and taking a look at the permissions be a good place to start?). Anyone know how to get in touch with the devs, or some scource code of an app that affects the trackball? This would be a great start.
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quick rundown of my rom idea's. some of you read my MAJOR INTERNAL MEMORY ISSUE thread, which you all rose magnificently to the occasion, and I couldnt be happier. It was true team work, something I know we can do if we just unite like we did yesterday. You all solved my problem, and have proven to me the members of XDA are capable of anything, especially when united.
the fact is, damages latest leaks are the best platform to build upon, as when the final release surfaces, and we get an official RUU, it will work truely flawlessly. so this is most certainly what we need to base the app off of at first, as its the only one with the closest trackball fix. if darch and flipz n fresh all want to encorporate it into their ROMS, they more than entitled too, as I hope to get help from them in certain areas. my issue with the latest sprint leak: the OS is so big, it leaves you with barely any internal memory, and you pretty much have no choice but to use a2sd. ive never had to use a2sd on my hero, and this is disppointing (damage, this is NOT a shot at you, its a fact, one I plan on helping you adress. im in the middle of working on a cleaner foundation for you to work on). the rom will be fully "sensable" with some tweaks like that of no other. i will build on the foundation you've laid, to create a new foundation for you to build on (once more leaks surface)
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im off for the day, except for occasionaly visits on my Hero, so please feel free to comment. I'm looking for someone to help build this app, so anyone with app programming skills, PM your GTALK and we can chat about idea's. in the meantime, maybe someone knows a open scource app that would allow us to build off?
dear damage, darch, and flipz, please PM me your GTALK if your interested...although I could understand if your too busy with your ROMS, I dont mind taking on the load, as long as I have your support, and can ask for help. i will not cross the line and ask for the RUU's you've been getting damage, but I would love to hear your plans for future releases, whether or not you might be interested in using my app and perhaps help developing it.
c.a.l.i.n.g. a.l.l. d.e.v.s.
It is light sensitive tested by placing finger over the sensor above the sprint logo (upper right) flicked the track ball it comes on. Hopefully that helps beleive me I know how it is when you ask a question or look for help and you get nothing
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It is light sensitive tested by placing finger over the sensor above the sprint logo (upper right) flicked the track ball it comes on. Hopefully that helps beleive me I know how it is when you ask a question or look for help and you get nothing
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a quick search in damages.thread (which i hate doing, his threads fill so fast.and questions get buried, right along with the answer) gave me the same conclusion. but the fact is, i want a constant trackball led, and im sure if people had the option, more people would want it too. most view it as a minimal bug, so dont bother. i guess, for me, the other bugs are so minimal that the trackballs led has become the biggest issue.
could someone please help? i spend alot of time on here helping as much as i can, id really appreciate it if someone with the same desired goal could devote some time to it. id be willing to help in any manner.
im sitting in my basement with all the lights out posting this, just to spend time with my long lost tb led.
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Did you try to turn off the Auto brightness feature for the display to see if this stops the Trackball from not turning on?
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Did you try to turn off the Auto brightness feature for the display to see if this stops the Trackball from not turning on?
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I have auto brightness off and it has no effect on trackball led.....
chfields said:
I have auto brightness off and it has no effect on trackball led.....
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yes ive been playing with the power control widget since first flash. no joy. thanks for the idea, have anymore?
anyone?
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Trackball Alert
There's a dude from the uk that builds an app for N1 that brings the ability to choose your own color and rate of the trackball lite. Try to send him an email see if he wants to jump in. The app is called Trackball alert. Its says its only for the N1 though.
Hope you can find a solution.
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There's a dude from the uk that builds an app for N1 that brings the ability to choose your own color and rate of the trackball lite. Try to send him an email see if he wants to jump in. The app is called Trackball alert. Its says its only for the N1 though.
Hope you can find a solution.
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yeah ive seen the app. i will make sure to do that, i hope the brits want to help.
im sure us on xda.could find a solution, however.
i really hope sprint doesnt plan on releasing 2.1 like this. id be sorely disappointed.
Believe me, I understand what it's like to have a feature that's important to me and nobody else seems to care about. We all paid good money for these phones, and continue to pay good money every month for service, so I think that gives us each the right to at least ask about the things that we care about. (Well, unless you're trying to use Sprint VVM instead of GV. That's just plain dumb.....)
As far as the trackball light behavior goes, I think your probably screwed. That's something that will most likely have to be changed in the source code of whatever is controlling it. That seems to me like something that's probably coded in at a very low level of the OS itself. (Well, not the OS, actually. The OS is Linux. But it's probably hardcoded into the Android framework.)
As good a job as the rom devs on xda do, it's not like they're actually creating this software. They're just taking what others have created and packaging it in a way that works on our phones. My guess is that the people who can make the change you're asking for work in HTC's offices...
As far as the different colors, good luck. There's a reason that tweak only works on the N1. It's the only phone that has different colored LEDs back there to light up. You can be the best programmer in the world, but you still can't turn on a red light if the only light available is white......
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Believe me, I understand what it's like to have a feature that's important to me and nobody else seems to care about. We all paid good money for these phones, and continue to pay good money every month for service, so I think that gives us each the right to at least ask about the things that we care about. (Well, unless you're trying to use Sprint VVM instead of GV. That's just plain dumb.....)
As far as the trackball light behavior goes, I think your probably screwed. That's something that will most likely have to be changed in the source code of whatever is controlling it. That seems to me like something that's probably coded in at a very low level of the OS itself. (Well, not the OS, actually. The OS is Linux. But it's probably hardcoded into the Android framework.)
As good a job as the rom devs on xda do, it's not like they're actually creating this software. They're just taking what others have created and packaging it in a way that works on our phones. My guess is that the people who can make the change you're asking for work in HTC's offices...
As far as the different colors, good luck. There's a reason that tweak only works on the N1. It's the only phone that has different colored LEDs back there to light up. You can be the best programmer in the world, but you still can't turn on a red light if the only light available is white......
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i exchanged a pm woth regaw, who is working closely with damage in building and testing the leaks. he seems fairly certain its a matter of messing with an xml file. lets cross our fingers for more information.
anyone have any clue what.xml file defines when and how the tb lights up?
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he seems fairly certain its a matter of messing with an xml file. lets cross our fingers for more information.
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That could be, too. Will be cool if it is. I'm still working on getting a full understanding of the Android framework, but that could be in an xml file now that I think about it.
That said, I stand by my point that these guys aren't exactly writing software from scratch. There comes a point where they can only do so much with the programs that they're repackaging.
Once that point is reached, it's really not fair or realistic to ask them to do much more until the real developers release new software and it gets leaked again.
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That could be, too. Will be cool if it is. I'm still working on getting a full understanding of the Android framework, but that could be in an xml file now that I think about it.
That said, I stand by my point that these guys aren't exactly writing software from scratch. There comes a point where they can only do so much with the programs that they're repackaging.
Once that point is reached, it's really not fair or realistic to ask them to do much more until the real developers release new software and it gets leaked again.
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i comletely understand what you mean, and whole heartidly agree. damage is getting these leaks from someone and simply modifying for beytter performance, and working out the bugs sprint hasnt quite got ironed out yet.
but!
originally, these 2.1 roms were based on the eris and legend leaks, meaning the devs have a sound understanding of taking the given software and rewriting it to work on the sprint network/our hardware
it can be done, a simple edit of an xml file, and if we team up, i see no reason it couldnt be done, and rather easily at that.
i dp regret i have no knowledge in this regard, but i know its a patch alot of peoe would jump on and definatly appreciate. damage and all the rest are artists, maybe its time we give baxk, ya know? i wish i could be more of a help, but for.now, all i can do it bring the devs together in hopes to make a speedy and stable patch.
if any devs are reading this, i just want you to know us here at xda do appreciate your work, and i hope us joes.can give back in someway.
i guess edits dont bump lol
sooo...
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can someone help?
is no one awake?
its fridaaaaay!
im off for the night...any late night noobs or pros wanna take a look, you can easily use root explorer to view and edit the files, hopefully youll have more luck than i have (remember its a xml file!)
sys/class/leds/button-backlight/
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Damaged2.15 even touches those portions of the OS. I think you should be looking in the /system/lib/hw/ folder.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Damaged2.15 even touches those portions of the OS. I think you should be looking in the /system/lib/hw/ folder.
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okokokok, let me take a look
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I think that there are conflicts within there. most of those files are self explanitory, but what are the gralloc.default.so and gralloc.msm7k.so libs? IIRC the droid guys had keyboard issues and those files were included in the fix, so its possible they affect the lighting in some way. I don't think we can pull those files though, it didn't seem to want to boot after that. I think gralloc also has to do with opengl.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think Damaged2.15 even touches those portions of the OS. I think you should be looking in the /system/lib/hw/ folder.
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dammit, i was just trying to sleep.
i was told the file we need is an xml file, and i dont see any in there. HOWEVER; i do see lights.msm7k.so
and sensors.goldfish.so/sensors.heroc.so
which one should i look at first?
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I think that there are conflicts within there. most of those files are self explanitory, but what are the gralloc.default.so and gralloc.msm7k.so libs? IIRC the droid guys had keyboard issues and those files were included in the fix, so its possible they affect the lighting in some way. I don't think we can pull those files though, it didn't seem to want to boot after that. I think gralloc also has to do with opengl.
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i was wondering what those two were also...no idea
i DO know the file we need to fix is xlm file...should be just a change of a command (or perhaps an addon) but i dont see a single xlm in the entire system/ folder...
suggestions?
I can't seem to find a master list of apk's. I'm not talking about just stock, I mean everything. Kind of like a big giant kitchen. Not a list of what should be there, but actual download links. I am thinking the community would benefit from going to a single place to say "hmm....I'd like to try a different email.apk today." Basically a self-service kitchen. I can't count how many times I have to go pull apart a ROM to strip out the keyboard I like to put on my new ROM.
I think this will help cut down on many questions like "where can I find the patched mms.apk......" questions I see all the time. One place.
There is something similar to this in the Vibrant forum, but thought a giant consortium for Galaxy S would be best. Maybe it's something I'd have to work on, but I'd love to have it added to the WIKI. Think about it, you go download your favorite ROM/kernel, whatever, then add some spices........and voila! a kitchen without the hassle of downloading an entire ROM because you want to change one little thing.
Am I crazy? Have I really missed something in all my searches? Am I suffering from Search Overload?
Guess its time to bring a dead thread back to life because I was thinking about this myself just the other day... or is there already one that I'm missing?
I can and will host files if needed I have space and bandwidth that's going to waste.
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PARAGON RC5
So fresh and so clean
Jay_eS_Iye said:
Guess its time to bring a dead thread back to life because I was thinking about this myself just the other day... or is there already one that I'm missing?
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I can and will host files if needed I have space and bandwidth that's going to waste.
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Hosting stock apps might be ok, but def. not paid non-stock apps..!
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Hosting stock apps might be ok, but def. not paid non-stock apps..!
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I wasn't thinking paid appear, but like different free ones that are already out there or apk's for different modified apps that you see on different roms as long as their creators are cool with it
Yes! That's my point. I'd love to have a list of modified stock apps I can scroll through. You know, like a list of all the available email apps (stock, aosp, gingerbread, themed, etc...)The wiki seems like a good place to post it cause then themers/chefs can post up links to their work.
I honestly started digging around last weekend trying to collect links through the forums, but my god is that a lot of work! However thee pay off would be HUGE for all of xda. I just wish I had more time to start it AND all themers/modders/chefs would have to use it! That's what I feel would be more difficult than anything. Trying to get everyone to keep updating it. especially considering many frame work apps are "cross-platform" if you will, meaning an email app from a Desire might work in my Captivate. I'd like to try anyways.
Who's up for helping me? If only I was unemployed i'd have the time.
P.S. This made me happy seeing that someone agrees with me. I thought I had gotten totally ignored.
Sent from my pocket.
Well there are these threads:
[REF] **Captivate MOD/Theme Directory**
has some of the mods listed on there, not much tho (like ROM specific modifications I've seen around)
APK Download
a list of stock APK's and some non stock
So I think starting with this and adding some others would be a good list, especially stickied
I can't seem to find a good post or thread about this so I'll be the one to ask the dumbest question.
Can a GSM rom be flashed to a CDMA tab? Other than networking issue with the modem, will phone actually boot and be usable on wifi? I'm assuming it most likely will either not work at all or just FC constantly but wanted to ask first.
MODS please delete after a few answers. I don't want to waste thread space...
Anybody has flashed this before ? And i don't know can Verizon tab be able to flash rom for Sprint Tab ?
Waiting for anwser too .
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I can't seem to find a good post or thread about this so I'll be the one to ask the dumbest question.
Can a GSM rom be flashed to a CDMA tab? Other than networking issue with the modem, will phone actually boot and be usable on wifi? I'm assuming it most likely will either not work at all or just FC constantly but wanted to ask first.
MODS please delete after a few answers. I don't want to waste thread space...
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One of the other members did and it worked, I am not sure what was FC'ing but he was using it that way. A word of WARNING, if you accidentally flash the modem with the GSM one, its dead forever! You cannot restore it!!
But yeah it should boot, and be able to use WiFi.
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Anybody has flashed this before ? And i don't know can Verizon tab be able to flash rom for Sprint Tab ?
Waiting for anwser too .
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Verizon and Sprint use the same radio's so this should not be an issue
OK second question. Where on earth can I find the VZW firmware files to use with Odin or Heimdall? I flashed the Klean ROM and like it but then I realized I was having problems finding the stock pit and pda files to revert back to stock if needed!
I would love if I could use GSM ROM's. I bought a Verizon TAB (mistake now that I realized this) and just use it for WIFI only so network access is not an issue for me.
Is that file you need ?
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Is that file you need ?
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Downloading now but I'm pretty sure thats it! You are awesome. And I'm a lazy searcher.
try this... its the vzw recovery package i use... unrar and bring it into hiemdall... try using the voodoo overclocked kernal with it... great improvements, blazing fast, and the sound is unmatched... im not sure why, and i could very well be doing it wrong... but when i flash the zImage for the kernal, i always have to flash that zImage into the recovery as well... like i said idk why but 90% of the time my flash will fail unless i do that... so if you have any problems try it... hope this helps!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TC4G5IYC
probably the same files... beat me to it haha
I'd actually really like to know this as well... I've got a VZW tab I was given from a friend who updated to a Xoom... I'm only ever gonna use it wifi, and am a bit disappointed in the lack of roms for CDMA tabs... if a GSM Rom would work, and let me use wifi, that would be great for folks like me.
How can I avoid to flash the modem with the GSM one ? I usally use heimdall-frontend.exe to flash !
I could be wrong, but if you go through frontend dont you have to manually palce the moden file into the slot for modem? couldnt you just flash everything but modem? or is it in the kernal as well??
Soft
Brick.
arariel said:
I'd actually really like to know this as well... I've got a VZW tab I was given from a friend who updated to a Xoom... I'm only ever gonna use it wifi, and am a bit disappointed in the lack of roms for CDMA tabs... if a GSM Rom would work, and let me use wifi, that would be great for folks like me.
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You could always contribute instead of just ***** about the lack of support. You got a free Tab for pete's sake....
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You could always contribute instead of just ***** about the lack of support. You got a free Tab for pete's sake....
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Wow, ok... I just got the damn thing, let me, you know, learn how to code and program etc... got a while?
Yeah, I got a free tab, and I know next to nothing about it, so I'm trying to find out some information. I dunno that I would call expressing mild disappointment really classifies as "*****ing" but, hey, thanks for YOUR contribution to the thread too, guy. Super helpful. I understand the VZW tab isn't nearly as popular, and that means less people working on it, or maybe there are technical difficulties or something. I have no idea. I just know there is less information, etc. out there about it, and that's disappointing. Nowhere did I say anything like "people here suck for not supporting my device!" The ROM makers here are a talented bunch, that much is obvious... I really like what they're doing, and I'm guessing so does the OP. That's why we're asking about GSM roms... we obviously liked something someone made, and wish we could use it on our device. We're trying to find information, and you come and attack someone with the equivalent of an ER nurse getting mad at a Vet for coming in with a question about their daughter, and demanding that they help treat her themselves.
If I had ANYTHING even CLOSE to as helpful as some of the people here to contribute right now, I would... but I don't... I'm just trying to learn about this device. At my level of knowledge right now, I don't HAVE anything to give. So very sorry if that somehow offends you personally.
That was ugly!
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Soft
Brick.
You could always contribute instead of just ***** about the lack of support. You got a free Tab for pete's sake....
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Hmm. I wonder what my PM reply from you will have to say in it lol. Anyhow, is a soft brick inevitable? Are there options I can avoid such as obviously not flashing the modem? Or param.lfs? To prevent a soft brick. One person claims it worked on a certain ROM from them. I know I can find out the hard way myself but if I can benefit from someone else's experience I'd like to see if I can do that first.
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Hmm. I wonder what my PM reply from you will have to say in it lol. Anyhow, is a soft brick inevitable? Are there options I can avoid such as obviously not flashing the modem? Or param.lfs? To prevent a soft brick. One person claims it worked on a certain ROM from them. I know I can find out the hard way myself but if I can benefit from someone else's experience I'd like to see if I can do that first.
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Think about it guys you've got devs, and then you have those of us who are just using what the devs design, be it lack of knowledge or lack of effort, either way if you have a free tab, make a backup, make a couple backups, and try it, or maybe get with a dev working on your tab to add the features of the gsm tab to our vzw tab. help them test it, It makes sense that devs get pissed when someone says i got a free tab, do some research, make some effort to further the development for a device in which the devs purchase in most cases with they're own money, and if they brick it in the process they are out alot more money then you are. and the way they save them selves is by again treading on undiscovered territory. So instead of asking make some attempt. learn to use the emulator, learn your device, if you are just getting to know the device then it may not be a good idea to jump right into rooting, and flashing roms....
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Think about it guys you've got devs, and then you have those of us who are just using what the devs design, be it lack of knowledge or lack of effort, either way if you have a free tab, make a backup, make a couple backups, and try it, or maybe get with a dev working on your tab to add the features of the gsm tab to our vzw tab. help them test it, It makes sense that devs get pissed when someone says i got a free tab, do some research, make some effort to further the development for a device in which the devs purchase in most cases with they're own money, and if they brick it in the process they are out alot more money then you are. and the way they save them selves is by again treading on undiscovered territory. So instead of asking make some attempt. learn to use the emulator, learn your device, if you are just getting to know the device then it may not be a good idea to jump right into rooting, and flashing roms....
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Good post. Hope you weren't referring to me though! Check my sig I've been around the block with Android.
Oh and I'm running Overcome ROM right now on my VZW TAB. I'll be posting a video of the steps to take to ensure this works correctly some time this weekend.
Looks like my VZW may work out afterall...
arariel said:
Wow, ok... I just got the damn thing, let me, you know, learn how to code and program etc... got a while?
Yeah, I got a free tab, and I know next to nothing about it, so I'm trying to find out some information. I dunno that I would call expressing mild disappointment really classifies as "*****ing" but, hey, thanks for YOUR contribution to the thread too, guy. Super helpful. I understand the VZW tab isn't nearly as popular, and that means less people working on it, or maybe there are technical difficulties or something. I have no idea. I just know there is less information, etc. out there about it, and that's disappointing. Nowhere did I say anything like "people here suck for not supporting my device!" The ROM makers here are a talented bunch, that much is obvious... I really like what they're doing, and I'm guessing so does the OP. That's why we're asking about GSM roms... we obviously liked something someone made, and wish we could use it on our device. We're trying to find information, and you come and attack someone with the equivalent of an ER nurse getting mad at a Vet for coming in with a question about their daughter, and demanding that they help treat her themselves.
If I had ANYTHING even CLOSE to as helpful as some of the people here to contribute right now, I would... but I don't... I'm just trying to learn about this device. At my level of knowledge right now, I don't HAVE anything to give. So very sorry if that somehow offends you personally.
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LOL You just had a *****fit with the best CDMA dev we have, nice work.
How did you do it?
Hey man, watched your video review great stuff, any update date on how you got the rom on your CDMA Tab however? I just got a Sprint Tab and would love to flash Overcome on it...thanks for any advice
connexion2005 said:
Good post. Hope you weren't referring to me though! Check my sig I've been around the block with Android.
Oh and I'm running Overcome ROM right now on my VZW TAB. I'll be posting a video of the steps to take to ensure this works correctly some time this weekend.
Looks like my VZW may work out afterall...
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connexion2005 said:
Good post. Hope you weren't referring to me though! Check my sig I've been around the block with Android.
Oh and I'm running Overcome ROM right now on my VZW TAB. I'll be posting a video of the steps to take to ensure this works correctly some time this weekend.
Looks like my VZW may work out afterall...
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hey connexion2005, any update on the video? i´ve been surfing around the forums for a couple of hours now and haven´t found any procedures on how to get overcome on the VZW tab. just wondering
So my first ever android phone was a Droid Eris that was declared dead by Verizon after only 8 months of the phone being on the network. The devs created Rom after Rom of both Froyo and Gingerbread for a device that was said to never move past Eclair. There developments always sparked interest in to create my own rom and to get deeper into android, but no one was able to point me in the correct direction of where to start. So now having a device like the Bionic I would like to start creating roms. So the question is: Where do I begin
Also if this is the wrong place to ask this please move it.
waffleb051 said:
So my first ever android phone was a Droid Eris that was declared dead by Verizon after only 8 months of the phone being on the network. The devs created Rom after Rom of both Froyo and Gingerbread for a device that was said to never move past Eclair. There developments always sparked interest in to create my own rom and to get deeper into android, but no one was able to point me in the correct direction of where to start. So now having a device like the Bionic I would like to start creating roms. So the question is: Where do I begin
Also if this is the wrong place to ask this please move it.
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Start small. Do some theming and learn what programs you can use to modify apk files. I use a mac to do all of my work. Some programs I use are better zip, springy (which are 7zip equivalent), figure out how to use apktool, there are several guides on how to use this. If you need help, let me know.
When theming, there are three or four apk files that you may want to start with.
-SystemUI.apk
-framework-res.apk
-moto-res.apk
-blur-res.apk
These files will hold the status bar images and files, all of the background colors, highlight colors, etc.
You can use one of the zip programs mentioned above to change the icons and pictures, and use apktool for text colors and things like that. Just start poking around and see what you can find.
Once you get a grasp on that, start tweaking and changing things and put it into a rom i guess lol. You will need to look at the updater.script and learn how to use them inside of roms...if you need help with this after actually opening it and reading it, feel free to ask.
I should also mention, you should probably be theming a deodexed rom. So do a little research and learn how to deodex your phone...its not too bad.
Hope this sends ya in the right direction and once again, please feel free to ask anything.
Yes, I agree.. Start small, like themes and mods fotr other ROM's.. learn how things work at a basic level... then maybe look to join a team where you can learn from someone else..
You will also need the Android SDK so you can use the draw9patch for certain images.
Am I wrong here or is the dude trying to make a ROM, not a theme? Never made a ROM so i dont know. Guessing theres a lot more for for him than us themers.
You need to learn to walk before you run. Also I have android sdk on my computer but it is messed up.
Thank you for the replies. I have a couple theme ideas
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App
So I've done some poking around and I can't seem to find anything.
Full disclosure: this whole process is a little bit over my head. I'm reasonably savvy with technology, but just have next to zero experience with phones and I feel like I'm in a little bit over my head.
When I first got my Captivate about a year ago, a friend online walked me through getting ClockWork Recovery and FireFly installed. It's been running great but I'm really bored with the phone and thought flashing an ICS ROM might spice up the experience a little bit for me.
It's been suggested that I flash back to stock before I start mucking around - there is a lot of clutter on the phone and whatnot so I figure this wouldn't be a bad idea to just reset EVERYTHING back to the way it was before root and start from scratch.
I've got all of these random forum posts on XDA open (ODIN, CWR, ROM Images, etc) and an old IRC log open and trying to piece the puzzle together but I'm getting a bit nervous that I'm going to miss something or do something out of order.
I'm hoping that there is something out there somewhere that puts all of this in to a nice step by step, or at least into noob english so that I can understand it all easier.
Help please!!
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Look through the sticky threads. This is one that may help guide you that i quickly found there http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350266
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858765
Sent From My KickAss ATT SGS2 SPORTING CM7
Stickies are your friend. From here you can find the basics on how to use anyting. Most roms have instructions on how to flash. If you understand the basics everything falls in place. As always search, read, read, READ, and please understand what you are doing. As a slip up might soft brick or at worst case hard brick your phone.