*** LIMITED PUBLIC BETA ***
This is a limited public beta to begin testing for stability and lack of brick creation.
If you would like to participate in this early and extremely risky round of testing
please download the applicable binary for your operating system and join irc.freenode.net/#alpharevx
to request a beta key for your device.
Please note that this beta-round could be withdrawn at any moment if safety concerns arise (e.g. bricks).
The beta key mechanism is there to protect users from bricking their devices if there are bugs present.
http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/
What not 1 thanks, there was about a 30-45 minite window and I threw this up with at least 30 mins to go, AND Ive not even got an Incredible, (I've got a Desire S which wasn't even supported) surely someone got S-OFF-ed due to seeing this??
Taken from irc on the night:
[21:19] <NexusCrazy> Desire S Hboot: 0.98.0000 sn: HT1*********
[21:19] == Benichio [[email protected]] has joined #alpharevx
[21:19] <Benichio> hello
[21:19] <timbo007up> Nexus: Desire s not supported
[21:23] <NexusCrazy> will desire be supported in the future please ??
[21:24] == comfreak [[email protected]] has joined #alpharevx
[21:24] <gromez> HTC WILDFIRE (BUZZ) | HBOOT-1.01.0002 | SN: HT11MPY22332
[21:24] <NexusCrazy> *desire s
[21:24] <drowningchild> HTC Liberty HBOOT 1.02 serial HT068R002878
[21:24] <@kmdm> NexusCrazy: maybe
[21:24] <Daemonic> could something help me?
[21:24] <@kmdm> No ETA type info available
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Just got S-OFF and Rooted
Public beta already closed.. dang
Hoping to see a release soon
Damn, I was hoping to get in on this
Sounds like the beta test went well (no bricks), so hopefully will be released soon... or another beta test!
More than happy to use my UK bought phone running OTA 2.3.3 as a test
The one day i don't follow that thread and I missed the beta release
me too.. just one day i don't come here and i miss out on this... I hope the final version is released soon.
The website is now mentioning an open beta coming soon... so you probably won't have to wait too long!
I hope they include windows os this time.
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the thing is we indian users see the post round the clock .. the post or the beta releases are announced with their timings so we dont get to participate and til we come online its already done !!
cooljais said:
me too.. just one day i don't come here and i miss out on this... I hope the final version is released soon.
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1 day? I checked the forum 2 hours after the release and the beta was closed. They just took the first 25 applicants
Lets wait for a wider release now, I guess
nikhil007mmus said:
the thing is we indian users see the post round the clock .. the post or the beta releases are announced with their timings so we dont get to participate and til we come online its already done !!
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Agreed. But I happen to have checked the forum at 3-4 AM that day.. the post was made at 1 AM(ish) IST. The beta was already closed
Basically the window was too small.. chances are you wouldn't get in unless you're there here 24x7 or insanely lucky..
I'm waiting for AlpharevX' release...made a ubuntu partition only for that reason
We in Germany also have that time problem :/
What not one thanks to a geezer who ain't even got a Sensation S yet posted on your forum before I tried to get a beta key for myself, only to find out my Desire S wasn't supported check out the time of my original post then the time on irc also included now in first post.
The purpose of limited beta was not to get it out to everyone. It was just to get a broader, controlled test of the process. Once they got the data they needed, the beta was closed. This is for everyone's benefit in the longer run.
Finally they did it. Nice
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DesGehtDiNixO said:
Finally they did it. Nice
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I downloaded Public Open Beta for Linux. I have 2 keys from two generated during downloading. No lucks. I cant get s-off at all.
Vivo : 1.13.0000 HBOOT
GB 2.3.3
ASIAN STOCK ROM
x1123 said:
I downloaded Public Open Beta for Linux. I have 2 keys from two generated during downloading. No lucks. I cant get s-off at all.
Vivo : 1.13.0000 HBOOT
GB 2.3.3
ASIAN STOCK ROM
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You need to flash another rom ruu optus, virgin or wwe
It works! My IncS is s-off...
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You need to flash another rom ruu optus, virgin or wwe
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I downloaded RUU_Opus and RUU_wwe. Flashed both error on CID ... many post advised to seek on the tmp folder a file named rom.zip ... for using with goldcard. But I can not find anywehere file named rom.zip
Dunno ... after spending so many hours and reading xda pages still S-ON
x1123 said:
I downloaded RUU_Opus and RUU_wwe. Flashed both error on CID ... many post advised to seek on the tmp folder a file named rom.zip ... for using with goldcard. But I can not find anywehere file named rom.zip
Dunno ... after spending so many hours and reading xda pages still S-ON
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You need to create a goldcard using a microSD card and place it in your phone. Then you can try running the RUU. The CID error is because you don't have a goldcard in the phone.
Also the threads that told you to search for ROM.zip in the temporary directory requires that you run the RUU.exe first and when the opening screen is shown on the screen, then you should start your search. Do not close the RUU.exe app because it will delete all of its files that are in the temporary directory.
x1123 said:
I downloaded RUU_Opus and RUU_wwe. Flashed both error on CID ... many post advised to seek on the tmp folder a file named rom.zip ... for using with goldcard. But I can not find anywehere file named rom.zip
Dunno ... after spending so many hours and reading xda pages still S-ON
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Try using mmc2 while getting t
he cid..mmc1 anf mmc0 dont work
Related
05/31/2010
Here is the real story, the pics were fake, not from Jake day but some fraudulent member.
James friend also never had root and was lying to him.
So there we are and I am so so sick of all the BS and the flaming and lying!
05/25/2010
I just got a passed down possible super boot thanks to Paul over at Modaco.
I am away from my PC for the next 2 days, experienced Devs PM me and let's see if this works.
05/26/10
No go we still need bootloader...see thread.
The majority of the current Root Conversation is taking place with Devs over at XDA, with experienced Devs like binny and others.....DEVS ONLY! see here:
[PR] Rooting For devs only - xda-developers
What is Root? Why would I want to Root my Incredible? What does it mean? I am a NOOB help me understand all of this...
See here:
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/45242-rooting-q.html
I want to help root and learn more! Want to elearn more and Developing for an Android/Linux Device...
See Links At bottom of Post #4 here:
http://androidforums.com/all-things...-thread-addons-roms-updated-04-21-2010-a.html
Reserved for future use.........
Reserved for future use.................
well, i am no dev, but i would like to say thank you in advance, haha. can't wait to get this phone and then root it. i am glad to hear that there is good interest in this phone. i pre ordered mine as well and can not wait! been without a smartphone for a couple months. sold my tp2 in prep for something better coming out. it was a long wait but i am sure it will be worth it.
i wish you and all who work on this project the best, and most speedy, of luck. thanks again
Re: Root Status/Exploits/Dev Roll Call Thread! Coming Soon.......Updated 04/23/2010
Can't wait didn't preorder but will prob pick one up on the 29th... i'll be willing to help as much as I can...
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Will definetly check this thread out when the Incredible drops. I will go and test it out on the 29th, and most likely buy it, got an update on one of my lines.
would like to see nexus one 3d photo gallery in your rom which would be nice. I also can't wait for free wifi tethering.
Hoping you folks smarter than me are able to find root quick
I have created a custom recovery.img from Ama_ra's source, so if fastboot is unlocked then we can just flash the recovery.img via fastboot and flash a custom ROM.
I used the xmoo shipped ROM for the images.
but if its not unlocked then we can try fastboot oem unlock and see if it unlocks the bootloader, but this will 100% void your warranty.
I have also created an update.zip but the shipped ROM might be newer than the leaked images from (xmoo)
Should be rooted allready...... so there may not be a need for this thread.
binny1007 said:
Should be rooted allready...... so there may not be a need for this thread.
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Say what now?
IncredibleDoes said:
I have created a custom recovery.img from Ama_ra's source, so if fastboot is unlocked then we can just flash the recovery.img via fastboot and flash a custom ROM.
I used the xmoo shipped ROM for the images.
but if its not unlocked then we can try fastboot oem unlock and see if it unlocks the bootloader, but this will 100% void your warranty.
I have also created an update.zip but the shipped ROM might be newer than the leaked images from (xmoo)
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I've already tried fastboot oem unlock on the Incredible and it doesn't work. Hardware similarities aside, rooting the device won't be as easy as the Nexus One.
-dave
drensin said:
I've already tried fastboot oem unlock on the Incredible and it doesn't work. Hardware similarities aside, rooting the device won't be as easy as the Nexus One.
-dave
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Thats true...me and a friend dev of mine tried that and old goldcard method already and it didnt work either...
binny1007 said:
Should be rooted allready...... so there may not be a need for this thread.
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@ binny1007
Good to see u man and hope ur gonna get an incredible so I can see you around again (even if your always so sour )
But the Incredible hasnt been rooted yet, otherwise this wouldnt be here lol...
Hope you help out working on it...but we tried fastboot oem and goldcard and couple other random things yesterday and no luck so far....
Cheers! and good to see u around!
The root for the desire and legend has not been released yet, sooooo as soon as Paul releases it, the same way should work for the inc. Just hold on tight, it should not be too much longer.
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Should be rooted allready...... so there may not be a need for this thread.
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where is the tutorial for the root process? HTC does not release devices already rooted
binny and acidbath, at it again!
My hope is that this thread does not get infested with the snipes and snots that haunted some of your other efforts.
I also hope you guys can root the Incredible before I'm eligible to get one!
binny1007 said:
The root for the desire and legend has not been released yet, sooooo as soon as Paul releases it, the same way should work for the inc. Just hold on tight, it should not be too much longer.
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Yeah Paul over at modaco....I am waiting for what he has got...
And yes in all probability it should work or at least quickly to us rooting the Incredible...
But even if Paul does get it.....I will still be hosting a Kitchen I have working on here as well as ROMs down the road....
Hope to see your stuff to Binny1007
Cheers!
I'm not a developer by any means, but I'm always willing to test pretty much anything. I've been keeping a close eye on this phone for a few months now and pre-ordered on the 19th, just checked the order status page on VZW and it says "Your order has been processed. You should receive your order within 2 - 3 business days." Man, I cannot wait to get my hands on this bad boy!
IncredibleDoes said:
but if its not unlocked then we can try fastboot oem unlock and see if it unlocks the bootloader, but this will 100% void your warranty.
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Which is why I'm getting the best buy maintenance program. They have no deductible and you can change your phone out as often as you like. . Walk in get another one and leave. I do believe that they will start using refurbs when they become available if they have them at the store you visit.
Hey all,
We've been working pretty hard to bring you unrEVOked 3.2 with out-of-the-box, one-click support for all Android versions on the Incredible.
Available for Linux, Mac, and Windows:
http://www.unrevoked.com/recovery/
Please start by visiting the help page and reading it through:
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
1. Windows users MUST install the HBOOT drivers for this to work:
http://www.unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php?id=public:windows_hboot_driver_install
2. Windows users need to uninstall HTC Sync or any other program that might talk to the phone over USB (doubletwist, etc). Disabling HTC Sync from the system tray is not enough. They interfere with the root process and will cause problems.
3. When asked for USB connection type, select "Charge Only" and "Remember this".
Special thanks to Sebastian Krahmer for the rageagainstthecage exploit.
mmastrac said:
Hey all,
We've been working pretty hard to bring you unrEVOked 3.2 with out-of-the-box, one-click support for all Android versions on the Incredible.
It's working flawlessly on our testing devices, but we are releasing it for a quick round of testing before distributing it more widely. If you are interested in helping us test, please join me in #unrevokedtest on freenode.net.
I'll replace the content here with the links to the updated tool once we've finished testing.
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i would test for you.....i wouldnt mind messing up my phone for development purposes
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Nice work as usual. I have a bunch of people who upgraded and now want root. Look forward to the finished release.
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Can't wait to root my HTC Desire from US Cell... I hope the testing goes quickly!
it worked for me.
specs were
stock 2.2 with ota. no mods previously done.
now I have root with S-off
I would like to test since I took the OTA and lost root, but I am unfamiliar with freenode and can't figure out what I need to do.
Can someone please point me in the right direction?
Google
I am a google.com kinda person. Just type in your search and let it find the answers.
http://freenode.net/faq.shtml Top google search.
Sorry Kulaa for being an ass myself. Thanks for the new post.
go to webchat.freenode.net and fill out the form.
for channel type in #unrevokedtest
Well your loss then! Besides it was just sarcasm, don't take it so harshly.
Can't wait for this to get released so I can help my cousin root his phone.
Worked perfect for me!!!
Good job unrevoked guys
Awesome
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Yessssss Thank You!
How do we get the new 3.2 if we already have 3.0 loaded. I cant find a guide.
yomonk1 said:
How do we get the new 3.2 if we already have 3.0 loaded. I cant find a guide.
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There's nothing "loaded" with these, they just make modifications to your phone. If you're already rooted/S-OFF there's no reason to run them again.
this is great news. i'm excited for when this is released. but, this will just root it right? it wont turn s-off?
keep up the good work
Updated post - it's live now.
tktouch12 said:
this will just root it right? it wont turn s-off?
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S-OFF is optional.
Hey
So when is the tool supposed to be back up?
3L3C7R0 said:
So when is the tool supposed to be back up?
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I imagine it will be back up as soon as they work out the small bug(s) they found. I can't wait for it either, I'm ready for some for 2.2 lovin.
Hi guys, i have been following closely to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980497 ...
that is the best rooting IS thread..
i opened this thread is to stop / a place for people to post question & discuss...
reason: because the thread link above... is a place for devs update infos..
so kindly please post question / discuss here instead..
P.S dont turn that great thread to a spam thread. thank you!
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FAQ - Credit l0st.prophet & timbo007up
Great idea jetty.
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The devs will (hopefully) keep this thread monitored all the time (at least i will), but dont expect a answer within seconds
We will try to answer all your questions here. And please keep the original thread nice and clean. Thanks to jenny we now have a thread that can be open for answers.
I hope jenny is willing to update the 1st post with faq's and alike. (i will try to provide them as much as possible). Thanks to knightrocker we have a lot of good basic stuff to tell about
So lets discuss and ask
p.s. yes i will be annoyed by people who don't read and ask the same question that has already been answered (probably multiple times )
So how do I root my IS? can someone give me a link please?
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Dude... Please read the topic ... We arent done rooting yet ... But it will come soon ... Please atleast a little before u post
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Hmmm ... Soo that secu_flag=1 in too deep down too bad ... I will have a look at kexec ... Sounds nice
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Hmmm did a bit of reading on kexec. Timbo i have a question, u said u are trying to use it, but u cant boot into it.
Maybe that is because it is already being used? From what i read, kexec sounds a LOT like the fastboot option on htc's to me. And i don think u can overlap two kernels over the original one. Maybe thats why it was never tried
Please correct me if im wrong.
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Knightrocker just wait mate we are busy with it
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I must say u: im not that much of a linux programmer, mainly tester, but getting to know it. We are just trying to use it (or misuse if u want) to run our code.
Dont know exactly how it works, but it is useable to bypass some of the HTC security that is build in. But like u said: its never been used before, but thats only partial true. It is being used on the X10, and 4 days ago they announced that they succesfull used it to run there own kernel and roms.
Currently there are people working on it and as usual there are only just a few persons who really know what there doing (not me included ) so also i have to wait. Just have a little more know how because i'm involved with it
As soon as i know how it exactly works i am willing to document it (if allowed by the devs though) because maybe we dont want HTC to know how we do it exactly, because it will probably be to easy to disabled again haha.
Heres a starter for the faq
Root, s-off what does that mean?
If you don’t know what root is, go away and do some research. Not going to cover that.
Temp-root/shell-root: By using the psneuter exploit we can get temp-root. This allows us to execute more commands and gives us access to the whole system.
S-on/S-off: Disable the security that is also known as the NAND lock. When S-on is enabled it prevents us to write to the system partition (and various others). They can be written but it will be discarded when you reboot. So we see it as not writeable.
How do I check if im s-on?
Disable the fastboot option in setting > application. Shutdown. Hold down vol-down + powerbutton until you get to a white screen. Read the first line. Should say something like “Vivo bla bla S-ON”. If it says you are S-OFF you are lucky .
What is responsible for the s-on?
The radio firmware (not accesable trough the system directly) sets an flag (secu_flag) to 1 or 0, 1 for s-on, 0 for s-off. To get s-offed we somehow need to change that flag. Currently not possible for our phones.
The kexec was allredy used on the Motorola Milestone, but the Radio was always hanging. But possibily it can help you guys looking at the sources http://and-developers.com/custom_rom:2ndboot
Nice info! Have not looked so good at it (yet) so will do now.
Further more: i know about the X10 since one of there developers is on our team too. So have not looked at other phones yet who uses it
Had an Milestone before my Desire
You can ask the guys on #milestone-modding on freenode on IRC if you need help, they made a lot of experience with this methode since more than six month.
timbo007up said:
Heres a starter for the faq
Root, s-off what does that mean?
If you don’t know what root is, go away and do some research. Not going to cover that.
Temp-root/shell-root: By using the psneuter exploit we can get temp-root. This allows us to execute more commands and gives us access to the whole system.
S-on/S-off: Disable the security that is also known as the NAND lock. When S-on is enabled it prevents us to write to the system partition (and various others). They can be written but it will be discarded when you reboot. So we see it as not writeable.
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Then how it is possible to have a permanent root with S-ON on other devices like DHD?
The way I understood it,is that we can get root privileges but they vanish once we reboot cause they only existed in a volatile memory (since we can't write the code into the non-volatile area because of the S-ON)
This makes me ask: What's a permanent root then?
It is possible on other devices because it (the radio) can be somewhat accessed within userspace (kernel/programs) and than sets the flag to s-off. But it is required to exploit the radio so that it will do what we say. All current know exploits don't work on our phone. So its currently not possible on the new HTC devices.
So it is possible to access certain parts of the phone that are locked. but it requires a lot of skill to get there and than you must find something useable to change the flag.
Permanent root is what it says: stay root even after reboot There were times (mostly early cracking of new (currently old) devices) that people could temporary turn of the flag, set root in the system and that way gain permanent root. But most of the time your not very far away from fully s-off.
timbo007up said:
There were times (mostly early cracking of new (currently old) devices) that people could temporary turn of the flag, set root in the system and that way gain permanent root.
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If you were a chick I would ask you to marry me for such awesome answer
Fancy a beer?
@androf : lol bro, ur crazy.
I have more questions if some1 dosent mind answering. From what i read, kexec skips the firmware part, thus we skip security. But about flashing a custom recovery? Will kexec still be effective or will u use it just to root and then chuck it?
Heck, ive learnt more from this IS section than i did in a whole year of science classes in school
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@Androf, ty but no thanks dont have any brains left at the moment and a beer would not help me to return it and your welcome!
@knightrocker: this thread is made for questions (the other one is more for the news and progress) so burn out those questions, i assume it still takes some time to get trough though. So until then i'm trying to help everybody here with there questions regarding to it and a appreciate the thoughts about how to get trough.
p.s. you can pm me ofc when u have questions, but i think that you should post them here, so other people can learn too. I'm saying that you have to wait for something to come off that uses the kexec method. Currently being worked on so not much info to be given yet. Dont crop those questions and put them out. Will appreciate if you have more than one question post them in one post though
@mr stylo: we have one the lead devs of the X10 cracking team, i assume he knows where to find the info. but nevertheless its a good learning course for me
@timbo: ok bossman. I will ask any questions i have to make sure every1 learns with me. And ill try to keep it a little compact as u say. I will read some more on this kexec thing. Im glad u guys found that dev dude from the x10. Say hi to him for me please
Btw... Just so i get right, u said i could burn off any questiojs i have and learn as much as can yes? Sry... But imma little sleepy
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I've read some threads mentioning gold card and installing official roms meant for other regions. Can we have an FAQ about that in this thread too?
Appreciate you guys collecting info here
Hey Guys.. I Created this thread for discussing S-OFF for our Desire C (obviously) ... Recently I contacted HTC Devs and here what they say ...
Dear Reinel Caluag,
Thanks for contacting HTC Philippines
we appreciate your continuous attentions with our products and services. We understand that you wanted to have an S off for your HTC Desire C.
For us to easily solve the issue, we would like to get the exact make and model of the handset. And it would be best if you could provide to us the IMEI or the serial number of your phone for proper documentation of your account with us. You may usually get the IMEI on the sticker at the back of the handset or by dialing *#06# on your phone’s dialer.
Regarding the concern, as we gathered some information, S-on or security on is a feature on our device where the system software of the handset is protected. For this, since you mentioned that you've already unlocked the bootloader of the handset and you still have S-On, we will raise this concern to our management for us to know how you can get S-off. For the meantime, please do expect another email response about updates and resolution for the said concern.
Please let us know if this information was able to help you. If not, kindly inform us the issues you have encountered. Should you need further assistance, you may give us a call at 1800-14410789 for PLDT or 1800-89086588 for Globe. You may provide your customer ID number “ for us to easily pull up your account. And our business hours are from Mondays to Sundays, 8:00AM to 8:00PM.
On the other hand, if we have successfully answered all of your concerns, you may close the ticket by accessing the links provided as well as for proper documentation of your account with us.
Once the ticket is closed, you will be receiving an invite for a survey. We would greatly appreciate if you can participate on a quick survey regarding how we were able to assist you with your concern.
Thank you for making business with us. Have a nice day!
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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After Seeing that.. i quickly reply them .... they need IMEI,and some phone info ... and I send them ...
What Do ya Think Guys.. ???
(*_*)
Good, Its good to see the HTCDev team showing even the slightest support for the Desire C
Maybe we will get S-OFF maybe we wont.
Right now it seems to be the thing we need most right now :/
Thanks for doing this Addictz10
Sparky
Excuse my noobishness, but I don't really see the point behind getting s-off for our phone. I understand it will enable us to flash kernels from recovery mode itself and we can flash radio images to our phone (which I think is risky and i would never try that). And we can flash a different bootloader. But with it comes great security risks, and the possibility to actually hard brick our phones. So given a choice, I would still opt for S-on. Flashing kernels through fastboot is not that much of a problem, it hardly takes any time. Is there something I'm missing regarding S-off?
aashay960 said:
Excuse my noobishness, but I don't really see the point behind getting s-off for our phone. I understand it will enable us to flash kernels from recovery mode itself and we can flash radio images to our phone (which I think is risky and i would never try that). And we can flash a different bootloader. But with it comes great security risks, and the possibility to actually hard brick our phones. So given a choice, I would still opt for S-on. Flashing kernels through fastboot is not that much of a problem, it hardly takes any time. Is there something I'm missing regarding S-off?
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nah! my Device before got an S-off i flash kernels through recovery without having any problem... S-off is Safe ... but if you dont know what are you doing you'll end up in a big problem ... :3 ... if we have S-OFF then it means we will have a chance to get DUAL BOOT!! ..
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nah! my Device before got an S-off i flash kernels through recovery without having any problem... S-off is Safe ... but if you dont know what are you doing you'll end up in a big problem ... :3 ... if we have S-OFF then it means we will have a chance to get DUAL BOOT!! ..
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So we can run two roms together, like one sense and one cm10?
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So we can run two roms together, like one sense and one cm10?
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yeah ... !!
My turn to state an opinion. IMHO dual booting is a bad idea. It takes up more space than it should. The only benefit i see from it is as a test enviorment.
Like have your main rom setup, and then flash test builds of other roms alongside it. But that is the only benefit.
Isn't different bootloaders device specific? If so who will be the advanced dev guy that will port/build them for us?
Im supporting s-off, but highly hesitant whether it will be of much use on a such low end device.
addictz10 said:
Hey Guys.. I Created this thread for discussing S-OFF for our Desire C (obviously) ... Recently I contacted HTC Devs and here what they say ...
After Seeing that.. i quickly reply them .... they need IMEI,and some phone info ... and I send them ...
What Do ya Think Guys.. ???
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Nah HTC won't do anything to us
its like when we send a huge amount of emails with no answer
They leave their old phones and take care of new ones
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I just want S-OFF the change the ugly splash screen to something nicer and ofcourse for flashing kernels from recovery!
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nah! my Device before got an S-off i flash kernels through recovery without having any problem... S-off is Safe ... but if you dont know what are you doing you'll end up in a big problem ... :3 ... if we have S-OFF then it means we will have a chance to get DUAL BOOT!! ..
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I am not sure about Dual boot.
becuse pico doesn't have S-off but a dual boot
I think they have s-off .. coz dual boot needs s-off because dual boot flash kernels through recovery... while us on fastboot
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I agree with noahvt about changing splash screen and its so annoying having to turn on my PC to change kernel and we need to get a full touch cwm not twrp like 6.0.3.5
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YAH! I KNOW!! Just do What we want -_-
Dear Reinel Caluag,
Thanks for contacting HTC Philippines
Thank you for the information that you have provided. Regarding the concern, as we've checked our resources, we found out that we don't need to turn the security off to accomplish the basic installation of custom ROM. Security on by default is good for some reasons, it protects the system software configuration such as radio, boot, recovery and system. However, once you've unlocked the bootloader of the handset, you will have lifted the restrictions of the handset and you have the means to customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. For this, we are sorry to say that our management did not give the exact information on how to turn the security off. But as for coordination, normally, once you've unlocked the bootloader of the handset it will automatically have S-Off and developers would easily access or toggle the options on the phone specifically with Security off and on.
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Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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Reply of HTC Devs ..
addictz10 said:
YAH! I KNOW!! Just do What we want -_-
Reply of HTC Devs ..
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I've send an e-mail as well
I stated that they should atleast consider it!
EDIT: for my asus transformer it was so easy just unlock the bootloader and i was flashing a new bootloader immediately after that why does HTC have to make it this hard :\
noahvt said:
I've send an e-mail as well
I stated that they should atleast consider it!
EDIT: for my asus transformer it was so easy just unlock the bootloader and i was flashing a new bootloader immediately after that why does HTC have to make it this hard :\
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because their buts :silly:
Shad0wPanda said:
because their buts :silly:
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Their flagship device (htc one) received an s-off not long after release so yeah i think they just don't care about the lower and devices
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WOW :silly:
this is the reply from htc (the most stupid reply i've ever seen) this is what they call "customer service"
Dear Noah Van Tiggel,
Thank you for your email regarding your HTC device.
I would like to inform you that we do not give support for this issue.
If you have quetions you can search it in this site http://www.htcdev.com/.
I hope I have informed you sufficiently,
Best regards
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Means the going boat went down ;(
Can't we build a bootloader(S-OFF) ones.
The ones who build these are also humans like us.
And no one is born with ultiamte knowlege.
There always is a horizon and a hope that shall always be in our heart
We can do it
Pressurise HTC.
We need S-OFF
aman23091998 said:
Means the going boat went down ;(
Can't we build a bootloader(S-OFF) ones.
The ones who build these are also humans like us.
And no one is born with ultiamte knowlege.
There always is a horizon and a hope that shall always be in our heart
We can do it
Pressurise HTC.
We need S-OFF
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For what i understand is that we need an xtc clip (link: http://www.xtc.hk/index.html ) people at pico thread have spoken about this but i don't know if this will work on our desire c's it's if someone is willing to risk it? i found this guide (it is for the htc desire hd but it will be sort of similar with other devices i think) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWtIzOkEbI
EDIT: it's possible without xtc clip as shown in this thread for wildfire s http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342468
EDIT2: another pico thread about s-off : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957236
EDIT3: i'm gonna try to put my phone into diag mode right now!
EDIT4(lol): i won't give up this easily
EDIT5: damnit htc even diag mode is not included in our desire c :\
noahvt said:
For what i understand is that we need an xtc clip (link: http://www.xtc.hk/index.html ) people at pico thread have spoken about this but i don't know if this will work on our desire c's it's if someone is willing to risk it? i found this guide (it is for the htc desire hd but it will be sort of similar with other devices i think) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWtIzOkEbI
EDIT: it's possible without xtc clip as shown in this thread for wildfire s http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342468
EDIT2: another pico thread about s-off : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957236
EDIT3: i'm gonna try to put my phone into diag mode right now!
EDIT4(lol): i won't give up this easily
EDIT5: damnit htc even diag mode is not included in our desire c :\
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Damn you htc when I was London I went past a HTC building and was tempting to go in and say
Here it is give me god damn s-off for our ************* HTC golfu. Yarr and maybe a few HTC ones¿ and all UE booty
So bloody close
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Shad0wPanda said:
Damn you htc when I was London I went past a HTC building and was tempting to go in and say
Here it is give me god damn s-off for our ************* HTC golfu. Yarr and maybe a few HTC ones¿ and all UE booty
So bloody close
Sent from my HTC Desire C using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I'm gonna buy a N4 at the end of the year since it has better support then HTC does :'( but i'll keep in touch and keep developing for this phone i still don't understand htc doesn't give us proper support (and because there is a big crack running trough my phone )
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wasn't aware of the other thread. mistakes happen
predator1584 said:
Welp it would seem that HTC has released the new Sense 6 OTA for "developer and unlocked variants":
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/ota-captured-sense-6-now-rolling-out-to-the-htc-one-m7/
Later in that XDA article, Will talks about how alray provided a TWRP-compatible Nandroid for direct flashing as well as the firmware.zip link:
Here's the thread and post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52704273
I hope they release this soon for Sprint considering I would love to test out those new HTC apps before I take the plunge and purchase the M8!
Warning for any flash-happy users, I do not recommend using the backup or firmware until it comes to Sprint, I made this for the purpose of information sharing.
The thread link is for the Developers edition only, do not use until we receive confirmation from Sprint!
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Already a thread for this guy....
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