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I want to clear my phone completely back to bare-bones 2.1. I do want to save my last good set up with froyo, so;
1) Is it a good idea to do a complete restore.
2) Is it better to leave the phone as is (leaving b/u in tact) or can I save the last b/u to my computer? If so how (Tibu, ROM Man???). How would I return this file back to the phone if necessary?
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up.
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Good advice thanks:
quarlow said:
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
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creepyncrawly said:
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up
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I was thinking this was the case. My only concern is on the re-install, would I be correct in my asumption, that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
tomween1 said:
Good advice thanks:...would I be correct in the thought that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
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Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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Well it's done, we'll see how it goes when I need it
I think the trick is having a working base rom and it being the same as the backup. Id be curious to try restoring a previous version of the same rom. How bad could it get?
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Want to know about backing up roms and restoring them
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
Abhishek1008 said:
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
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That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
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That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
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I hate it when all apps are removed to change ROM. I want to try Nik's JB and I dont want apps to be removed whatsapp....
try Ultimate Backup Tool for non-rooted and Titanium Backup for rooted
In this case it should be enough to do a nandroid backup. You can test JB and if you finished testing, you just restore your old stuff. The JB ROM is amazing but it's not a daily driver yet so it's kinda needless to install all your apps on it
I backed some using titanium but how how to restore them?
What about the backup and and restore on the recovery? What is that used for?
aaa124 said:
I backed some using titanium but how how to restore them?
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After backing up with titanium on your old rom
Download titanium on your new rom and you can re-install, but beware that restoring data from different roms may cause FC's
Can you set Titanium to only restore the apks, no data and cache? That should avoid most issues I suppose?
The interface is a little ... busy... so I havent really given it a go yet.
esbenm said:
Can you set Titanium to only restore the apks, no data and cache? That should avoid most issues I suppose?
The interface is a little ... busy... so I havent really given it a go yet.
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aaa124 said:
I hate it when all apps are removed to change ROM. I want to try Nik's JB and I dont want apps to be removed whatsapp....
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Buy the premium version of titanium backup then you can batch install apps instead of installing one at a time.
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esbenm said:
Can you set Titanium to only restore the apks, no data and cache? That should avoid most issues I suppose?
The interface is a little ... busy... so I havent really given it a go yet.
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Yep. What I usually do, is go on the batch section click restore app, and choose app only. And then use app+data for my games, so I don't lose my scores and saves.
You could always restore the data partition from your old ROMs nandroid backup. Works for me.
For rooted phone, I'd suggest Go Backup.
Titanium Backup is much more powerful, but some essential features, like batch backup/restore, require paid version. And it loads pretty slowly on my Incredible S.
Go Backup offers backing up both apps and their data, as well as SMS/call log/contacts/wi-fi access points. Go dev team has recently added backup merging feature, which works fine either.
Today I installed 4.1.1-based ROM from Nikhil, downloaded Go Backup from the Market, ran backup restoration and voila, in 5 minutes I got all my apps back, including paid ones.
This app is constantly being updated, which is also a weighty argument (at least for me).
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You could always restore the data partition from your old ROMs nandroid backup. Works for me.
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That seems like a great idea, anything not to do, or just copy and place..
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That seems like a great idea, anything not to do, or just copy and place..
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I'm using 4ext, I just choose advanced restore and choose data partition.
So if I restore my ROM from a previous backup, it will restore all my apps with data too?
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So if I restore my ROM from a previous backup, it will restore all my apps with data too?
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I'm using 4ext, I just choose advanced restore and choose data partition.
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Thanks for the info, when Nicks new roms settle in a bit and I try them again I'm going to try your method.
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Is it really the same restoring an app from a backup as from Google play? Market links work and the app is registered by the os, integrated into the share menu (facebook for instance) and so on?
Just trying to learn how android works... Something like that would never work in windows, registry entries would probably break...
Nonverbose can you please explain more about the nandroid backup. I tried titanium and it worked.
I am curious about your method.
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aaa124 said:
Nonverbose can you please explain more about the nandroid backup. I tried titanium and it worked.
I am curious about your method.
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nandroid is the backup/restore function in you recovery A nandroid backup will save your COMPLETE ROM with all apps, data and everything else. After a backup you can install whatever you want on your phone and install new things, whatever. And if you had enough, you can restore your backup and your entire phone will be just like when you did the backup It's also a great method to switch between ROMs for example your daily driver (let's say ProjectX) and JB Evolution You can configure both ROMs like you want it, do backups and switch between them The process of backing up/restoring a ROM takes about 5min.
I hope this answered all your questions
Yup I tried this one today but I didnt know it was called nandroid. Thanks
I got a general enquiry, if I am currently on a trickdroid custom rom and wanted to flash ARHD, do I make a nandroid back up then full wipe before flashing ARHD? But when I restore the nandroid, does it revert me back to trickdroid since the nandroid backup was built using the data of trickdroid?
My goal is to change Roms but also able to retain apps and settings that I have set in my last Rom.
I just downloaded titanium backup too.
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Nandroid is a complete backup of /system /data and boot.img. You want titanium backup to retain data from rom to rom.
I have read a few threads but wasn't sure, thank you for confirming this. Much appreciated.
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just avoid restoring system data, just restore apps and userdata.
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just avoid restoring system data, just restore apps and userdata.
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Hi Gunnyman, I have googled some guides in regards to wiping rom and restoring backups created by Titanium backup.
In my understanding of the process, The major point is not to restore system data and system apps as you have mentioned, but couple of guides have mentioned just to download the apps from the play/market store instead just restore the actual apps that was backed up by Titanium (So this will only restore the apps data). If this is true, is there a way to automatically download all my apps after I sign into my accounts after setting up the new ROM and restore partially the data from TiBU?
Many thanks in advance.
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Hi Gunnyman, I have googled some guides in regards to wiping rom and restoring backups created by Titanium backup.
In my understanding of the process, The major point is not to restore system data and system apps as you have mentioned, but couple of guides have mentioned just to download the apps from the play/market store instead just restore the actual apps that was backed up by Titanium (So this will only restore the apps data). If this is true, is there a way to automatically download all my apps after I sign into my accounts after setting up the new ROM and restore partially the data from TiBU?
Many thanks in advance.
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Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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This is actually my first Android phone, I have always been using iphone (jailbroken), but I was never a religious loyal fan of their products, it is like a streamlined factory of robots and using it makes me feels like a prisoner. Android's customisation definitely lured me here, I research their system and finds it more promising in terms of customisation and personalisation.
I have a 25GB dropbox account, which was a free subscription rewarded for registering a new dropbox account through HTC devices., ( I had one existing 2gb account so I used a new e-mail address.)
I have actually turned off the HTC sync option, delete my account and disabled it. I saw posts on the forums that this is to maximise battery performances as constant syncing drains battery to a fair degree.
I am actually on ARHD 7.1 but considering flashing Trickdroid for experimenting purposes and also to test out its customisation ability in comparison.
What is your backup setup like? For example, if you would have to flash to a different ROM, or updating a Rom, would the steps be different? Because updating a rom over an existing one, IE ARHD 7.3 over ARHD 7.1, it can be flashed dirty without wiping right?
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This is actually my first Android phone, I have always been using iphone (jailbroken), but I was never a religious loyal fan of their products, it is like a streamlined factory of robots and using it makes me feels like a prisoner. Android's customisation definitely lured me here, I research their system and finds it more promising in terms of customisation and personalisation.
I have a 25GB dropbox account, which was a free subscription rewarded for registering a new dropbox account through HTC devices., ( I had one existing 2gb account so I used a new e-mail address.)
I have actually turned off the HTC sync option, delete my account and disabled it. I saw posts on the forums that this is to maximise battery performances as constant syncing drains battery to a fair degree.
I am actually on ARHD 7.1 but considering flashing Trickdroid for experimenting purposes and also to test out its customisation ability in comparison.
What is your backup setup like? For example, if you would have to flash to a different ROM, or updating a Rom, would the steps be different? Because updating a rom over an existing one, IE ARHD 7.3 over ARHD 7.1, it can be flashed dirty without wiping right?
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I always do a factory wipe, then restore my titanium backup. back up in running with new ROM in 15 minutes.
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Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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I always do a factory wipe, then restore my titanium backup. back up in running with new ROM in 15 minutes.
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And then using HTC and dropbox to restore your apps? But using TiBU to restore the apps settings over?
The user data have to be input manually, correct?
I use HTC sync then tibu to restorethe data and any apps it may have missed.
I'm on android revolution 22.0, but I can't seem to backup any of my apps with titanium backup. I want to try new ROMs, but I hate losing all my apps. I've tried other backup apps like room toolbox etc but they don't backup my data like titanium does. Either way it's really aggravating sticking to ROM (although really good) but I really want to try more aosp ROMs
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I'm on android revolution 22.0, but I can't seem to backup any of my apps with titanium backup. I want to try new ROMs, but I hate losing all my apps. I've tried other backup apps like room toolbox etc but they don't backup my data like titanium does. Either way it's really aggravating sticking to ROM (although really good) but I really want to try more aosp ROMs
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What exactly happen's? I assume your not losing root, so when you say you can't backup, what do you mean? Any errors? I used Helium backup and it worked pretty good. I backed up to google drive and was able to get most of my apps/data back, but Titanium does work best. Anyway, give some more details and maybe someone can help.
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What exactly happen's? I assume your not losing root, so when you say you can't backup, what do you mean? Any errors? I used Helium backup and it worked pretty good. I backed up to google drive and was able to get most of my apps/data back, but Titanium does work best. Anyway, give some more details and maybe someone can help.
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Okay, it backups fine and detects the backup folder. But once I load up titanium backup I can't restore anything. It doesn't seem to backup my apps correctly or something. I've tried deleting the backups and backing up my apps again but that doesn't seem to work also. I'll try helium.
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Titanium is the biggest piece of **** I have ever used in my life on Android. Use something decent like Helium if you want to back up your apps. Titanium was the biggest waste of money I have ever spent on an app. Read the reviews on how people can't restore their stuff after trying to recover. It would lock my device with doing the simplest operations. Developer never responds at all. Helium has worked for me on every version of Android and every device I have used. Flame the **** out of me all you want audience. Titanium is pure crap.
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Okay, it backups fine and detects the backup folder. But once I load up titanium backup I can't restore anything. It doesn't seem to backup my apps correctly or something. I've tried deleting the backups and backing up my apps again but that doesn't seem to work also. I'll try helium.
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2 things; you have the latest version> I know it mattered in some other posts. Also, I remember reading something about changing the backups folder to storage/emulated/legacy in 4.3 to be able to restore your applications. Something to do with the folder structure and restores.
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Titanium is the biggest piece of **** I have ever used in my life on Android. Use something decent like Helium if you want to back up your apps. Titanium was the biggest waste of money I have ever spent on an app. Read the reviews on how people can't restore their stuff after trying to recover. It would lock my device with doing the simplest operations. Developer never responds at all. Helium has worked for me on every version of Android and every device I have used. Flame the **** out of me all you want audience. Titanium is pure crap.
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No flame, everyone has an opinion.
I've used Titanium and for me its worked well. I never had to reach out to the dev, so I can't talk to that. To be on the safe side, I usually use Helium, Titanium and of course a nandroid bu when appropriate. One of them always works for me.
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2 things; you have the latest version> I know it mattered in some other posts. Also, I remember reading something about changing the backups folder to storage/emulated/legacy in 4.3 to be able to restore your applications. Something to do with the folder structure and restores.
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No flame, everyone has an opinion.
I've used Titanium and for me its worked well. I never had to reach out to the dev, so I can't talk to that. To be on the safe side, I usually use Helium, Titanium and of course a nandroid bu when appropriate. One of them always works for me.
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It's certainly great advice to have 2 backups, I'll echo that. I had the highest hopes for Titanium, and for me, backups are paramount. So when I have a developer that doesn't respond, period - that's an issue. I would do simple app restores with data and my device would fail to boot afterwards. Didn't matter if I did it with Messages, or random games. I'd have to recover my ROM on account of whatever Titanium would be doing during restores since it would stop booting and would sit at the HTC logo screen indefinitely.
I can use something like Mybackup Pro:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro
Or Helium:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup.license
I'm sure that people have had just the opposite experience that I've had, or else TB wouldn't have gotten as good of reviews as it has over the time its been in the store. However, if I would have only relied on that app to back my stuff up, I would have lost all the data on my device after flashing custom ROMs. Can't say the same for the other 2 products I have listed, as neither one of them have ever given me any issues whatsoever and they work every time for me without having me worry about soft bricking it during every single restore. That just creates more work for me...and totally defeats the purpose of using the TB app.
Yeah I decided to use ROM toolbox to backup my apps then helium to backup my data thanks guys. I've never had titanium poop out on me until now.
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I'm trying to restore from a nandroid backup while using titanium backup however it will not restore any data
The 'extract from nandroid backup' is the option I have selected but it will spend a couple of minutes to 'analyze TWRP backup' (which is to be expected) however upon completion and upon selecting the apps & data I want to restore the system after a few minutes says the backup has finished the batch restore. This however is not the case.
I would appreciate some directions on what to do!
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I'm trying to restore from a nandroid backup while using titanium backup however it will not restore any data
The 'extract from nandroid backup' is the option I have selected but it will spend a couple of minutes to 'analyze TWRP backup' (which is to be expected) however upon completion and upon selecting the apps & data I want to restore the system after a few minutes says the backup has finished the batch restore. This however is not the case.
I would appreciate some directions on what to do!
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it will only restore your apps, without data. if you want to restore apps with data, then you need to back them up via titanium backup. or, you can restore your nandroid backup via twrp.
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it will only restore your apps, without data. if you want to restore apps with data, then you need to back them up via titanium backup. or, you can restore your nandroid backup via twrp.
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In terms of restoring the nandroid backup via TWRP does it matter that it's from a different phone (although same ROM cm12 -> cm 12.1)
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In terms of restoring the nandroid backup via TWRP does it matter that it's from a different phone (although same ROM cm12 -> cm 12.1)
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no, it doesnt matter. ive restored nandroids before from one phone to another before. make a backup on the second phone first, then delete the backup, then put the backup that you want to restore in ths same file position the one you deleted was in. are you talking about a completely different phone, or two nexus 6?
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no, it doesnt matter. ive restored nandroids before from one phone to another before. make a backup on the second phone first, then delete the backup, then put the backup that you want to restore in ths same file position the one you deleted was in. are you talking about a completely different phone, or two nexus 6?
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Ah right! I'll try that thanks..
Yeah I smashed my Oneplus One last week (made a backup 2 days before the accident) so its worth trying it
MattyCLFC said:
Ah right! I'll try that thanks..
Yeah I smashed my Oneplus One last week (made a backup 2 days before the accident) so its worth trying it
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oh, if its from a completely different device, do not even try it. that can brick your n6. if its from a broken n6 to a new one, thats different. but from a one plus one, to a n6, can be dangerous.
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oh, if its from a completely different device, do not even try it. that can brick your n6. if its from a broken n6 to a new one, thats different. but from a one plus one, to a n6, can be dangerous.
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Would you have any other recommendation on what I could do to restore my apps + data.
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Would you have any other recommendation on what I could do to restore my apps + data.
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no unfortunately
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore
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Awesome app
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