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I saw the huge list of safe apps to delete, and I am getting my Droid X on monday, so I was just wondering if deleting the apps causes the speed to increase? I read a lot of reviews saying the Droid X has some lag unfourtantely but does it speed up when you delete all those applications?
I have the incredible right now and use a froyo basic ROM, I turn off all animations and delete all apps that aren't necessary, I just care about the speed of the phone. Do you see a speed increase if the applications are deleted?
I don't think you'll see a noticeable speed increase. The X does have lag in some places, notably the lock screen (big wtf here), but I don't think it's that much worse than most other android phones on stock roms.
I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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I have an incredible and just got my X on Friday. I have noticed that the X is significantly slower than the incredible (both running stock ROMs). I've also found that the X is buggier. I've never had a random reboot on the Inc and it seems to happen all the time on the X while wifi is on. Also, i've noticed that it's generally much slower in response to requested actions.
The most redeeming thing about the X is the AWESOME screen!!!
I'm hoping for a new release soon to help with the slowness, reboots, wifi, and responsiveness.
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The pro for all of the things you've mentioned there is that it seems to all be software related. HTC obviously has had more time to perfect Sense then Motorola has with it's new Blur-hybrid. I think once the software issues get worked out, the hardware for the X will outshine the Inc.
Just use launcher pro instead of the stock launcher and the entire system will run faster.
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Doesn't using launcher pro on top of blur make it use even more resources?
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it does, but if you remove everything off of your blur, then launch and use the other launcher it will use quite a bit more ram, (i see about a jump of 20 to 30 megs though i haven't done any precise measuring)
But I do notice a bit of a speed increase, part of the reason could be you can control the speed of the animations, and if you bump it up a little bit, even if it lags on showing you the animation it's not as noticeable because you can get there faster. (if that makes sense)
Well then if its mostly software related then I'll wait for a couple firmware updates or 2.2 before I start *****ing
ANy tips on how to speed the droid X up anyone?
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
grdm said:
Here is a tip that i found out:
On boot, go into the running apps/services, and kill:
Skype MObile, Social networking, and backup assistant authorization
It frees up memory AND the best part, you dont have to uninstall the programs and risk messing up ur phone..
Just have to do it on every reboot, big whoop..
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Startup Auditor - It's a paid app but worth the money.
I just tried launcher pro on top of fully configured blur and pro was still smother than blur. So since it isn't the phone I'm holding out hope for 2.2/blur update fixes this. Since that's around the corner I'll wait for it before converting to pro.
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isnt there a app that will prevent things from starting up? if you know the name please tell me thanks.
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Autokiller is a full featured, free app to do this.
Launcher Pro made a world of difference on my incredible, zero lag whatsoever..
I like many people thought about getting the Droid X, i dont have a complaint with its size whatsoever moreso then other issues... when i tested the demo phone in the verizon store it seemed incredibly slow.. yes i know it was a demo phone and people probobly mess with it all day long but still it was like having a G1 all over again..
Secondly is the lack of root access.. with the encrypted bootloader it is probobly going to be near impossible to flash a custom recovery and therefor custom roms are also going to be a hassle, i love having my fully unlocked incredible with a S-Off Nand on the way.. having custom roms and overclock kernals changes the feel of the phone completely
Thirdly and last is the 2.2 update... i saw the 2.2 update news article on the Droid X and the guys Quadrant Benchmarks with it were 800 something? That seems redicilous because my Quadrant Benchmarks with my 2.2 incredible are 1400s and Linpacks are in the low 40s
Those benches are showing the droid x on 2.1, with some other phones on 2.2, which puts the droid x in the highest tier of performance. Once froyo is on the dx, youll see scores almost surely above the incredibles (because of the gpu) and very high linpack scores.
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Autorun Killer does the job, but you need to be rooted.
AutoKiller on the same website will help you keep your memory cleaner by automatically killing tasks. That'll improve performance if your phone is running low on memory (which can happen if all the stock processes are running).
Edit: Oops, didn't see the thread has second page
personally i rooted my phone installed root explorer renamed alot of junk on my phone from .apk to .bak. my phone is def snappier. i also turned off the animated backgrounds. i also use advanced task killer which is the main reason i started, in a sense, uninstalling apps the safe way. seeing all of those items running before i killed them was killing me. so i would try doing that and also turning off wifi etc when not needed.
May not be the best scores, but this is after renaming only a few apps.
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Blur sucks. Launcher Pro rocks... And umm... Well I prefer my Droid X to the Incredible after the mods. I have zero lag. Go me.
Hi,
I just dropped my phone. So far all still working nicely but I'm quite paranoid
Is there any apps or tool to diagnose our nexus one. Just checking if all system devices working properly (GPS, wifi, radio, touch screen, etc)
Cheers,
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If it isn't a problem, don't make it into one. Just keep an eye on it, and watch for problems...
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I spent half an hour to check my phone.
You would want to know as soon as possible if there's any devices damage, wouldn't you?
Is android system throws some informative message if there is hardware failure?
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There's different apps to test the performance of different things (like network speeds), but I don't know of any all in one app that test things to make sure they are working...?
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I used sony ericsson walkman phone before android. They have some secret menu that allows you to check screen, vibrate, keys test, sounds, etc
Is there anything like that on android?
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anyone found one yet?
Old thread, but it came up in a Google search and it doesn't look like anyone's covered this elsewhere in this group.
Dropped my N1 over the weekend, and this morning noticed it's losing network & data regularly, and only connecting 2G, not 3G or 4G. Ugh. Hoping it's just sunspots, but it would be nice to be able to run diagnostics that test the various systems for any failures or out of spec values.
I've unlocked my N1 and am running cyanogenmod 7.2 if that helps.
Check out this link, it might have some useful apps:
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/hardware+test
thanks!
Thanks for the link, I'll take a closer look at those.
The good news (?) is that it turns out T-Mobile had a data network outage for most of the day today. They buried it on their support website behind an east coast outage report for last weekend's heavy weather, so I didn't see it. Big thank you to All Things D for clueing me in, and I'm reinstalling my apps now.
Been on Verizon for several years without problems. Have used several types of phones up to now (Motorola Krave ZN4). As the NC most likely will not enjoy the benefits of 3G (or 4G) the logical solution is phone upgrade to allow a good consistent tether when WiFi is unavailable.
So, any suggestions based on experience on type/brand/model phone compatible with Verizon service? What to look for? Tethering protocols?
thanks
Any phone with Android+root+Wifi+adhoc support should work. just choose if u need 3g or 4g.
basically what he just said. I have a Droid 1 and (with a "fix") am able to tether no problem with it, and that's the first android 2.0 device. I know Droid X works fine, and any other android really should work fine as long as its, as he said, rootable (basically) 4G will cost you more monthly (I think 10 more) but is faster, 3g is good enough IMO.
Any will do, I use an evo but they all get the job done
how about iphone4?
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iphone4 would work, but it would also need to be rooted/jailbroken, and the iphone community is different from android, everything costs money (including tethering apps) and it's not as free for all happy sharing open...
Tethering from the iPhone4 can be done without needing to pay anything, and that is through bluetooth. But..:
Iphone may already work through PAN/Bluetooth, with a few commands (automated through gscript?). But current kernels do not allow DUN connections.
Thus, tethering from an iphone4 using bluetooth/PAN only allows browser app and a few other apps (gmail?) to connect to the internet.. For a complete connection, you would need DUN. I think it has already been requested. But of course, this isn't a priority for kernel devs at the moment.
Of course, as it's been said, you can always choose to jailbreak and pay for a wifi/hotspot app. That would work.
Sam
I ordered my NC today! I'm waiting for it... what I need to tether my nexus one to NC? N1 is rooted as well... is it necessary to get adhoc fix on NC? I heard some user here saying it is not necessary but I found a thread related to adhoc fix...
Thanks!
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Nothing, you can tether with your N1 without any additional software or hardware...
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My 4G hits 20 Mbps constantly. I would hate to tether to my PC and hit my data limit in 20 minutes.
Does anyone know if the LG Revolution can be configured to rate limit the download or upload connections? This way I can make sure that I'm not over using it?
If nobody is doing this I will see if I can program it, my skills are a bit rusty though.
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My 4G hits 20 Mbps constantly. I would hate to tether to my PC and hit my data limit in 20 minutes.
Does anyone know if the LG Revolution can be configured to rate limit the download or upload connections? This way I can make sure that I'm not over using it?
If nobody is doing this I will see if I can program it, my skills are a bit rusty though.
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I'm not sure what you are saying, but just because speedtest shows 20mb/s doesn't mean you are actually doing that while tethered to a computer. The only way is if you are streaming high def movies our downloading heavy files. To keep an eye on data usage you can use the My Verizon app.
For example, I turn on the tether and let a friend and his laptop connect. If he had bittorrent running he could easily max out my usage in less than 1 hour under ideal circumstances.
Currently I don't know of a way to prevent this, trusting my friend may be a mistake. If I had controls on bandwidth and even firewall out some ports/protocols like bittorrent then I wouldn't have to worry at all.
Tell your friend to get his own Internet.... Just sayin... Lol problem solved!
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Bittorrent and a limited data plan don't go together. And yes, your friend could eat up your usage real fast and cause you overage charges.
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Doing this very easily could require Kernel support. Linux obviously supports this ability but is it built into the linux Kernel for Android?
this makes no sense, why would you use a limited data plan and plan on letting people use your phone like this? Wifi tether has a built in log that shows data usage while using tether.
Got cut off today while finishing the Dragon Ball series. I have LTE enabled and was streaming with it. I still love t-mo though, coming from Sprint their speeds are to die for.
Didn't see a thread about this.
Edit: not to say they ever implied it was unlimited in the first place, but it would seem so with root.
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which plan are you on?
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which plan are you on?
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Unlimited 4G with 500MB hotspot. Took Sprint 2.5 years to catch me tethering without paying with hot spot hack on sph-d700 (epic 4g)
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Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
Edit: beat me to it
They probably noticed quickly because it was so much data in a short period of time. If you spread out the tethering more (maybe less video), they probably wouldn't notice. I'm on the $30 prepaid plan and tether around 5gb a month but I spread it out over a couple days (maybe 500-2gb a day) and haven't been caught yet.
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Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
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Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem
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you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem
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Smasung series 3 Chromebook? If not it's cool. Guess I gotta wait till I can wait to get a PC and patience for anime episodes lol
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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Yeah you can spoof it by changing your browser setting. Depending on your browser you can look it up: http://www.howtogeek.com/113439/how...user-agent-without-installing-any-extensions/
It's a feature built into basically all browsers.
It decreases your chances of being detected but it really depends on how tmobile detects tethering. The user agent way is the simpliest and quickest but they can also do it by TTL (time to live) of the packets your computer requests as you for example watch videos or browse. They can also detect it other ways but those are 2 of the more common ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734138 Post 8 explains the TTL method a bit more
Basically changing your user agent is the quickest method that my help a bit (depending on if they favor that detection method). Using a vpn on your computer might further and better prevent detection. (I've never tried this myself but in theory it might help more than a simple user agent change. You can find guides of other methods people use to try and get around it. I haven't heavily investigated any other methods aside from the vpn and user agent since I've never been cut off so I don't really know of of any specific ones.
I personally think the thing that really tips them off is a huge spike in usage for a short time period.
If you tether over bluetooth or USB, you basically never get caught in my experience as well as several others I know who do the same. So I would try that. It's a bit slower but not bad.
I'd suggest bluetooth or usb tethering next time and see if that prolongs your hotspot usage. But as I mentioned, I really think it is the massive usage spike in a short time that tips them off so you may still get caught. When I use bluetooth and usb tethering, I still try not to go to heavy on usage over short periods.
I suspect that the TTL method may be more commonly used since it's not easily avoidable so you are best off slowing your usage when you are tethered. It would be very easy for them to see a spike in usage and check the TTL of your packets, realize you're tethering, then cut it off. It's more reliable than user agents.
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It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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Lol no problem, glad it works for you now. :highfive: Yeah that is the downside I forgot to mention. You can try to fix that problem by experimenting with making your browser look like other desktop browsers (for example maybe tmobile doesn't block some of the more obscure desktop browsers like opera etc.) or copying your phone's desktop style user agent in chrome. That might result in desktop style pages but tmobile will think you are a phone requesting desktop. (the user agent actually shows your operating system too so if you spoof that part to android you should be able to get desktop style while still staying hidden) You'd have to look up the android chrome desktop user agent though. I don't know what it is.
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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Yeah they do seem to figure out the user agent trick eventually if you use it several times. That's happened to other people I know. I think if you keep using a lot of data when tethering eventually they review your usage more carefully with their other methods like the TTL check.
Absolutely no less than 90% of this has been used while connected via native wifi tethering, and this usage is over the course of only 2 weeks. I have unlimited 4g (prepaid) and no tethering plan at all.
I've gotten a page that says I'm either not authorized to tether or over my limit two or three times in the last 3 days, but I just disable/re-enable tethering and reload the page....that's solved it every time.
just in case anyone is wondering, I'm using native wifi/usb tether on official PA (always the latest build) and franco M3 kernel....I've also got the chrome user agent switcher installed on my phone and set to desktop. I'm sure that doesn't matter, but I thought I should mention it. I'm also using chrome on my ubuntu PC with no user agent switcher installed.
I'm curious how much data everyone else who has had a problem tethering have used. I'm pretty sure my usage is way heavier than probably 99% of their customers...even those of us here
You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?
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You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?
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I stay on LTE, no serious difference in battery lifeand I'm usually plugged in while I tether, so battery life doesn't matter much there. Perfectly stable until T-Mo discovers you're over the limit.
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I wonder if whether or not T-mobile can measure how much data you've used for tethering without using their hotspot app (what they use on T-mobile branded phones to meter tethering usage) depends on the APN you're connected through?
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Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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duce102 said:
Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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Phone, I don't see much point in paying two different companies for the same service lol
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I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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No, I know it's not the Chromecast at fault, just stating I was using that to stream though. I'm surprised at how well its working and I've never streamed 1080p before so the jump in data usage caught me off guard a bit.