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picking up an iphone 4 possibly iffy?

So I'm swapping for an iphone 4 tomorrow. The guy seems legit however im not familiar with apple stuff.
If its a phone that was reported lost or stollen or blocked for non payment, how still I know? And if it was a phone that was blocked for non payment can I still use it on t mobile? Do US phones get barred by apple so they won't work on any carrier?
Basically I'm getting it to jailbreak and unlock onto tmobile, as long as it's not stolen if I can simply unlock it,i won't miss. Please let me know how this whole thing works. Like I said guy seems legit but this is just in case.

Wher r u buying it frm?
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Are you getting it from Dodgy Dave's Side Alley Office?

Someone on craigslist. Like I said it sounds legit,.just as a last resort

Anyone? Somebody has to know this answer.

I, mean test it out first if you want call atnt with the imei and ask if its stolen. Make sure theres no lock on and you should be good
I use swype so expect bad grammar and errors

You cant block GSM phones in the US

To get it to work on t-mobile you need to jailbreak and unlock it,
google it and look for limerain or redsnow and look for what ever version of ios it ahs and use that.

Cool. Are all ios versions supported?

Diamond_dawg said:
You cant block GSM phones in the US
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Is this a fact?

Nickdroid86 said:
Cool. Are all ios versions supported?
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up to 4.3.3 i believe for the jailbreak.
Check here for all info on unlocking and jailbreaking: http://www.limera1n.cc/

Nickdroid86 said:
Is this a fact?
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It wouldn't matter one bit of it was stolen and being used on tmo.
But buying stolen items isa crime.
Your choice. I'd do it.
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According to him it's his girlfriends fathers. He switched from at&t to t-mobile and gave it to his daughter(the guy i've been talking to's women) and those two switched to sprint. Thanks for the info guys I feel a lot better. I'm trading my epic for it straight up.

Nickdroid86 said:
According to him it's his girlfriends fathers. He switched from at&t to t-mobile and gave it to his daughter(the guy i've been talking to's women) and those two switched to sprint. Thanks for the info guys I feel a lot better. I'm trading my epic for it straight up.
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Don't iPhones take micro Sims? I know you could get your carrier to give you a new sim, but I would think they wouldn't come free
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http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-SIM-Card

Nickdroid86 said:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-SIM-Card
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Well that's handy.lol
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I hear t-mobile may sell micro sim cards. otherwise I will have to chop the sim card. which service is best in the florida area, more specifically tampa bay for the iphone with a sim card?

Nickdroid86 said:
I hear t-mobile may sell micro sim cards. otherwise I will have to chop the sim card. which service is best in the florida area, more specifically tampa bay for the iphone with a sim card?
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Google micro sim cutter. You can buy them and cut it yourself. Also keep the cut part cuz u can pop it back together and use it as a regular size SIM
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Ehh.. If I do have to do it myself i'll be ok without it. I will end up using a razor blade on a handle used to scrape inspection stickers and stuff like that off windows.

[Q] Sprint MotoX Bad Esn-What to do with it?

Hello, I am looking for some advice please.
I purchased a Motox Sprint from someone who claimed it had a clean ESN, but when I tried unlocking it through Motorolas website it denied it.
Is there a way to remedy this to where it can be used on no contract prepaid (iePagePlus), or should I just sell it and let it be someone else headache?
Do the unlock codes you purchase online really work, and if so are there any associated to this forum or recommended?
I really like the phones build and got it at what seemed like a good deal at the time,but it dont feel so good now.

rktdoc said:
Hello, I am looking for some advice please.
I purchased a Motox Sprint from someone who claimed it had a clean ESN, but when I tried unlocking it through Motorolas website it denied it.
Is there a way to remedy this to where it can be used on no contract prepaid (iePagePlus), or should I just sell it and let it be someone else headache?
Do the unlock codes you purchase online really work, and if so are there any associated to this forum or recommended?
I really like the phones build and got it at what seemed like a good deal at the time,but it dont feel so good now.
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A bad esn has nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader. If it has a bad esn, it was stolen. Do NOT sell it and make someone else suffer. You made the wrong decision... don't make it someone else's problem.
Online unlocking sites do work, but it isn't going to help you. All the US carriers have a shared backlist database.

Also in future you can go. Online, call or go in store and make sure ESN is clean. Try and stick to swapa as well.
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Thanks I intend to do that. The phone still has service under his account ,so I'm thinking he either walked on the account or will report it as lost or stolen collect a new phone and now he has money.
I've debated calling Sprint , as he basically stole the phone from them and sold it to me which is theft by deception from what I've read in some other forums.
I just don't think they will do anything about it though.
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Or he simply hasn't activated another phone on that line. It won't be released until he does.
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maybe someone can explain why unlocked ist really unlocked......xt1096

So, BF came and I shot me a verizon unlocked xt1096 somewhat foolishly expecting that unlocked means fully unlocked.....means I can do with it what I want.
Not getting gang raped like the Apple crowd.
But it seems like I was wrong. After some days of just playing around with the new phone and still using my Note2 (rooted) I went ahead and made the full switch........
and got kicked in the balls when I realized that some of my beloved progs won't work because, the thing has a locked bootloader (wtf??) and can't be rooted (another wtf).
Now, I really wonder why this is, since I paid for the phone in full that I can not do with it what I want.
Maybe I am stupid (easily possible) but I don't get this. Can someone please explain why this is that way?
Thanks
K

probably stupid.

Verizon sells SIM unlocked devices. What you want is bootloader unlocked which is only possible on the pure edition devices which only work on At&t or T-Mobile in the states.

Caveat emptor.

Unlocked sim is not the same as unlocked bootloader........ two very different things

You have a logic error there. I bought it from Motorola NOT Verizon. So why does Verzion have control over a piece of equipment I bought from somewhere else?
Just because they "allow" me to pay them for their services?

TigerDNA said:
Unlocked sim is not the same as unlocked bootloader........ two very different things
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Again, just follow my way of thought please. I buy from Motorola. Full price. And still Verizon has me by the balls? Please explain why.

hungarian said:
..... still Verizon has me by the balls.....
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That pretty much sums it up.

mbkintner said:
That pretty much sums it up.
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I am growing pretty tired about that kind of BS in this country. Maybe I was to cradled by consumer protection laws in Europe, but I seriously doubt that kind of BS would fly in Europe.
I had a oneplus one and sold it because Tmobile didnt cover me....... I was with Verizon for 4 years under contract. SO I thought this way I get a better deal......
I really don't understand why Motorola plays that kind of ****.

hungarian said:
I am growing pretty tired about that kind of BS in this country. Maybe I was to cradled by consumer protection laws in Europe, but I seriously doubt that kind of BS would fly in Europe.
I had a oneplus one and sold it because Tmobile didnt cover me....... I was with Verizon for 4 years under contract. SO I thought this way I get a better deal......
I really don't understand why Motorola plays that kind of ****.
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Yes, you were coddled by EU laws, welcome to freedom bro. The ONLY way to get a better deal with Verizon is to never have any form of contact with them, don't even make eye contact with the stores when you pass. :good:

You entered into a voluntary contract and should have read the conditions before signing.

You know, if my clients would be ok with smoke signals and emails, I would....but damn...sometimes those bad people want to talk to me.....

chrisrozon said:
You entered into a voluntary contract and should have read the conditions before signing.
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What do you mean? I should have asked Motorola if they lock the bootloader in the name of the all so mighty overlord Verizon?
Sorry, but I think if I buy a factory unlocked phone, I should receive a unlocked phone. A phine that is free of the antics and bs of Verizon.
Thats why I opted out of my contract and went with a prepaid solution. Where I bring my own phone.
What nerves me most here, is that everyone takes the dry as* screwing like it is normal that you get drilled up the backside high and dry.
Where is the outcry? Is really everyone so commercially ironed out and conformed that we can be handled like money suppliers that bring their cash anyway?
Please don't answer, I really fear to hear many "yes" or even worse, if you don't like it go back to Europe.

I don't see what the problem is. Your money speaks your opinion. Cancel your service with verizon and switch to T-Mobile or at&t where you can use a PE. Or buy a nexus 6 (which can be unlocked on Verizon). The web has a vast amount of info on any phone you ever plan on buying.

you are overseeing one crucial point. I bought the phone from Motorola. NOT from Verizon. I bought it outside of a contract. I bought it unlocked.
And still Verizon has power over a phone they shouldn't have.
The problem with other providers around here is, that they don't have coverage......

hungarian said:
you are overseeing one crucial point. I bought the phone from Motorola. NOT from Verizon. I bought it outside of a contract. I bought it unlocked.
And still Verizon has power over a phone they shouldn't have.
The problem with other providers around here is, that they don't have coverage......
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You still bought a Verizon branded phone. Verizon doesn't care about whether or not you are on contract, what they care about is that you are on their network. They want to have full control of every device that's on their network, plain and simple. I understand your frustration but it's not like a precedent is being set here- this is how it's always been. Not trying to drive salt in the wound here but had you done your due diligence and researched prior to purchase, you could have avoided this little surprise. As I said, this is nothing new, unfortunately.
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hungarian said:
you are overseeing one crucial point. I bought the phone from Motorola. NOT from Verizon. I bought it outside of a contract. I bought it unlocked.
And still Verizon has power over a phone they shouldn't have.
The problem with other providers around here is, that they don't have coverage......
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When you buy a Verizon-branded phone from Best Buy do you still wonder why Verizon's software is on it? You didn't buy it from Verizon, you bought it from Best Buy!

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hungarian said:
What do you mean? I should have asked Motorola if they lock the bootloader in the name of the all so mighty overlord Verizon?
Sorry, but I think if I buy a factory unlocked phone, I should receive a unlocked phone. A phine that is free of the antics and bs of Verizon.
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As far as I know, it is impossible to buy any variant of the Moto X 2014 that comes with an unlocked bootloader. Secondly, Motorola only marketed the Pure Edition Moto X (GSM) as being bloat-free. Motorola (or any other manufacturer for that matter) will never sell a CDMA phone that is not carrier-branded as all of the major CDMA carriers will only activate their own carrier-branded phones.

sorry but your statement is void. I bought from the maker. Not a reseller.

(Q) AT&T to Verizon

When I searched for this I saw many posts from last year, and so I'm not sure if anything has changed. This is likely a stupid question, but I can't seem to find a straight answer.
I have an HTC One M7, and the screen is literally falling out of it. I want to pull the trigger on a nexus 6, and looking on Ebay I see that the AT&T version is the cheapest. I've read that these are locked, but that (at least a year ago) AT&T were letting people unlock them. Is this true? Should I buy one of these phones can I go to an AT&T store and get it unlocked to use a different carrier? I'm on Verizon and since the status of my unlimited data is always in limbo, the less I have to talk to them the better. I'm aware there is a site that will unlock phones, but if I can do it for free, that seems preferable.
Also, aside from doing it myself is there any place I can get my sim card cut? Someone said that bestbuy used to do it, but the nearest one is a long drive for me, and I'd hate to make the trip for nothing.

in order to unlock an att n6 thats sim locked, the phone has to be 100% paid off(to att). if the person is selling it, it might be, or might not. thats the very first thing that i would ask the seller. if it isnt, id avoid buying it, as it could be stolen. if it was stolen, att will never unlock it for you.

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Snip.
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Interesting, a lot of the sellers are re-sellers of used phones, how could you actually check to see if it's paid off or not?

squat251 said:
Interesting, a lot of the sellers are re-sellers of used phones, how could you actually check to see if it's paid off or not?
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there are a few places online that you enter the imei number and itll say if its been reported stolen or not, or if its been placed on the list. if it has been placed on the list, then every US carrier will not let you use the phone on their networks. but the only way to tell 100% is ro buy it and try it(but i dont recommend this way).

Well, the seller (of the phone I'm looking at) claims it's a clean IMEI, literally in the title, but that doesn't alleviate the problem of finding out if it's been fully paid off, right?

squat251 said:
Well, the seller (of the phone I'm looking at) claims it's a clean IMEI, literally in the title, but that doesn't alleviate the problem of finding out if it's been fully paid off, right?
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nope. ask them, the most direct way to get an answer. and ask them if they got it unlocked, if it is paid for.

simms22 said:
nope. ask them, the most direct way to get an answer. and ask them if they got it unlocked, if it is paid for.
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Well, the answer they gave me is that AT&T phones cannot be unlocked. So either they never tried, or they just don't know it's possible.

squat251 said:
Well, the answer they gave me is that AT&T phones cannot be unlocked. So either they never tried, or they just don't know it's possible.
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lol, ive never heard that one before, of all the ridiculous things that ive heard said before. funny that att would put up a "fake" website for requesting unlock codes then https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
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btw..
General Requirements for All Unlock Requests
The device must be designed for use on, and locked to, the AT&T wireless network. (For help see Device Unlock Support )
It must not be reported lost or stolen.
It’s not associated with fraudulent activity.
All the device’s service commitments and installment plans are completed, and all early termination fees are paid in full.
The device is not currently active on a different AT&T customer’s account.
If you performed an early upgrade, you must wait the 14-day buyer’s remorse period before you can request to unlock your previous device.
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simms22 said:
lol, ive never heard that one before, of all the ridiculous things that ive heard said before. funny that att would put up a "fake" website for requesting unlock codes then https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
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THe at&t only phones can't be unlocked, please keep an eye i may update the listing with unlocked devices, waiting to see if they can be unlocked or not.
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His response after telling him I needed to know if it had been paid off (and why).
Perhaps that means he's tried and they cannot be unlocked, I'm not sure he wasn't all that clear.

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His response after telling him I needed to know if it had been paid off (and why).
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well, if he gets it unlocked, then id say go for it

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well, if he gets it unlocked, then id say go for it
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I'd say if he manages to unlock it, he's going to price it the same as everyone else with unlocked phones the goal was to avoid that lol.

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I'd say if he manages to unlock it, he's going to price it the same as everyone else with unlocked phones the goal was to avoid that lol.
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oh, hope not! btw, what was he offering before?

simms22 said:
oh, hope not! btw, what was he offering before?
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265 for an A+ condition used phone. unlocked phones are going in the 300+ range, I can get one brand new for 300 and change from http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-nexus-6-smartphone-xt1103-unlocked-32gb-cloud-white-284542/

I recommend you avoid buying from Expansys, check around at least first.
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Bought AT&T Note 8 and apparently it has a bad IMEI, what can I do?

Hello, I just purchased this phone from somebody with a bad IMEI, spent a good amount of money on it too...
I called AT&T, they told me the insurance company blocked it. Is there anything I can do with this? It works fine on Wi-Fi, just not mobile data...
Any help greatly appreciated. I just don't know what to do here

Nope

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son of a

For bad imei you mean it has been blocked? If that is the case, you bought a stolen or unpaid device, nobody here in XDA will help you, sorry for you, in the future be more careful

winol said:
For bad imei you mean it has been blocked? If that is the case, you bought a stolen or unpaid device, nobody here in XDA will help you, sorry for you, in the future be more careful
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Yeah i guess this is the case...
Called AT&T, Samsung, both said same thing :/
Well, it works on wifi, guess I'll try for a root...

cproo12 said:
Yeah i guess this is the case...
Called AT&T, Samsung, both said same thing :/
Well, it works on wifi, guess I'll try for a root...
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Root? To what end? There is no legal way to unlock a red flagged IMEI

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Root? To what end? There is no legal way to unlock a red flagged IMEI
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So? Ill still use it in the mean time as wi-fi only...

I would contact the person who sold it to you and get a refund. Or threaten to take legal action if they don't give you a full refund.

Sorry for the misfortune but if imei is blacklisted you bought trouble, best case scenario is that you don't get done for handling stolen goods.
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Please do not discuss this on XDA.
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