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Just saw the news that the Tab 2 is 10.1". I had been waiting to buy a tablet for the Tab 2 with hopes of the upgraded hardware and still a 7" screen. I don't want a 10" screen for a tab.
I guess i'm just looking to see if the hardware on the Tab 1 is good enough for most things.
Guess I'm just disappointed in a 10".
Will you be using it as a phone? If yes, I would ask to re-think it twice about 10" for a phone lol
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
Or you can just wait until Honeycomb will be released, at that time you will have an upgrade in your GT 7" from Samsung or from XDA.
At the moment the Hardware is capable enough to make everything you want, record video at 720, watch HD movies or play HD Games...
Personally, I would not move to a 10" Tab, as a 7" fits my needs.
I'm not moving. I don't have 1.
I was waiting to buy a tab till the 2, but it's 10". I've played with my friends Ipad, besides being locked down, I don't like how big it is. I really like the 7" size.
I don't think in NA I can use it as a phone. PLus I don't think I want a CDMA tab even tho My cell is Verizon.
I'm using it mainly as GPS, Game, email, hopefully Skype, etc. All over wifi. I travel for my job and would like to have this, and wherever I go I have wifi, and refuse to pay ~30-40/month for a data plan or w/e.
So was just looking to see if people felt I should get the 7". I mean I know it's my decisions, I guess I just want to know based on what I want to use it for, does it do it well.
I do plan on rooting it and stuff, I heard some of the ROM's actually remove a ton of the lag, and I doubt samsung will release HoneyComb so was hoping a xda developer would for the Tab, and the Tab would be powerful enough to run it.
The 10" was a big downer. I dont see any real use for a tab just in the home and a 10" is to big to have with you all the time plus its heavy for the hands/wrists to use longer times.
Now when im running Rotos JMI ontop a 1,4GHz ext4 kernel i cant realy ask for much more. The tab works great and are quick in the perfect format.
Would be fun if hc get ported to the sgt. But i will never buy a 10" when they are almost completly useless in my eyes.
EDIT: And i use my sgt as phone so i have it on me all the time. It fits in my front pockets on my pants without problems, but im a big dude so i have big pockets
robertsydbrink said:
The 10" was a big downer. I dont see any real use for a tab just in the home and a 10" is to big to have with you all the time plus its heavy for the hands/wrists to use longer times.
Now when im running Rotos JMI ontop a 1,4GHz ext4 kernel i cant realy ask for much more. The tab works great and are quick in the perfect format.
Would be fun if hc get ported to the sgt. But i will never buy a 10" when they are almost completly useless in my eyes.
EDIT: And i use my sgt as phone so i have it on me all the time. It fits in my front pockets on my pants without problems, but im a big dude so i have big pockets
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I got big pockets too, the 7" fits.
I thought the tab 1 was 1GHZ not 1.4?. But you like it alot?
I don't think I can get calling in USA.
I'm glad the Tab 10.1 turned out to be a larger device. Now i can stop trying to figure out how to afford to upgrade, and stay with the Tab1 with its 7" of goodness.
dardack said:
I got big pockets too, the 7" fits.
I thought the tab 1 was 1GHZ not 1.4?. But you like it alot?
I don't think I can get calling in USA.
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He's flashed it with a custom kernel to run at 1.4.
If you buy the AT&T version, you can indeed get voice calling in the US, after you flash it with Euro firmware and insert a SIM from a voice plan device. You can also get it with the T-Mobile version, but there's a few issues with that. Good news is that both versions can use international firmware no problem, even if you don't want/use voice calling.
I'd stay the hell away from the Sprint and Verizon devices for a couple of reasons. The first is that they have less internal memory (2Gb vs 16Gb), and the other is that neither unit can use international firmware, leaving you almost entirely at the mercy of the carriers for upgrades.
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He's flashed it with a custom kernel to run at 1.4.
If you buy the AT&T version, you can indeed get voice calling in the US, after you flash it with Euro firmware and insert a SIM from a voice plan device. You can also get it with the T-Mobile version, but there's a few issues with that. Good news is that both versions can use international firmware no problem, even if you don't want/use voice calling.
I'd stay the hell away from the Sprint and Verizon devices for a couple of reasons. The first is that they have less internal memory (2Gb vs 16Gb), and the other is that neither unit can use international firmware, leaving you almost entirely at the mercy of the carriers for upgrades.
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This is the kind of information I was looking for. TY for taking time.
What about the Best Buy / Amazon version? Yea I was staying away from Verizon/CDMA. I have verizon for my phone cause of work, and not a huge fan.
However, I won't need calling on the Tab.
Does it function OK OC"d at 1.4? It doesn't get too hot? Stability issues?
Yea I don't want to be at mercy. I want to put honeycomb on it if I do get it. I probably will now that 2 is 10, so I'll get 1. Just gonna wait and see if price comes down to like 400 or somethign hopefully.
I am 7" fan, too. Would love to see a SGT with the specs of the new 10.1" SGT 2 (or xoom), but with 7" screen. I am not big man, but "rounded in middle" (spare tire). I can fit my SGT in back pocket, nicely. It has fully replaced my Nexus 1.
For the 7" fans, the question maybe to stick with SGT 1 or maybe look at Acer a100 (http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=13010) -- appears to be 7" but with Tegra 2 (and a bump in a few other areas). The 7" form factor may have been validated with rumors about a 7" ipad (but those rumor seem unsubstantiated) -- so that might make more manufacturers take notice.
What would be really intersting, IMHO, 6", or 6.5" with SGT (or better) specs. I am not sure a 5" with 1024x600 would work..
LG has an 8.9" odd ball too.....
I think there is some more to come from MWC...maybe sammy has a refresh for the 7" sgt too?
Don't forget Dell has a 7" tablet too and it has dual core CPU (unlike our SGT 7"). The only downer is screen size is 800x480.
I don't think you could buy a SGT (no contract) lesser than $450 unless used. Streak 7" is $450 no contract.
I was in the same boat - bought my GT two weeks ago on T-Mobile, hoping that if there is an announcement about GT2, I can take a look at it before my return window closes. And at 10" no thank you. I actually had an iPad for few months (my wife wanted it more than me...) but just sold it, because it kept sitting unused, as it was too big for a book reader or to take it with me everywhere, but too small for good browsing (have a 14.1" laptop with 1680x1050 res for that).
I looked at the Dell Streak 7, but that screen just plain sucks. It looks like Dell was trying to build something nice, then just decided last minute that 7" won't work, so they found the cheapest LCD they could lay their hands on. Not to mention the battery life...
While it would be nice to have a GT with dual-core, 1Gb RAM and all that, I think the current hardware is more than capable, and will run Honeycomb just fine. My next tablet would have to be a lot more powerful, and have higher res screen.
i will stay with my 7'' tab
the best thing about the tab is it's size and the cell phone. i dont want to go back walking around with two devices in my pocket, i used to have an iphone & a big ass ipad so i know what is like to walk with two devices not cool lol.who ever makes the next 7'' tab with all the good stuff and a cell phone included i'm buying that.
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Will you be using it as a phone? If yes, I would ask to re-think it twice about 10" for a phone lol
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
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AFAIK the tab 10.1 can't be used as a phone
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I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
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Well i came to the tab from a dell streak and i'll tell ya the tab does everything way better than the streak, except fit in your pocket...... i wont be going back to the streak.
Yea I've read about the Dell 7", not getting that for sure. Screen rez alone plus battery life, no TY.
So there is another 7" Tab coming?
EDIT: That Ace 7" seems nice, plus a WIFI only version. No word on release in USA tho, only Europe.
FYI: HTC annouced the 'flyer' at MWC. This is a 7" too. 1.5ghz, 1024x600, cameras, android 2.4 (?) or honeycomb, etc. GSM voice support unknown.
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FYI: HTC annouced the 'flyer' at MWC. This is a 7" too. 1.5ghz, 1024x600, cameras, android 2.4 (?) or honeycomb, etc. GSM voice support unknown.
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I think i may return my GT and wait for this. I will only be buying one Tab, so I gotta make the right choice.
Here is a decent comparison matrix of the newly announced Android tablets
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/1...-lg-g-slate-vs-samsung-tab-10-1-vs-htc-flyer/
no mention of phone/voice on any of these; this is a deal breaker for some of us.
It's a deal breaker for me as i was a "one gadget man"
my main reason i go with samsung was because it can be used as a phone
if it isn't i'd go with htc already
if flyer can be used as a phone too, i might be jumping ship to htc ^^
Well...I've had it for a couple months, and Dell has still not delivered on their promise of official Honeycomb.
I just got hired for a job, and should have a few hundred by the end of the month.
The Asus transformer meets all my needs - an official Honeycomb tablet, it can be used as a notebook (it has a docking keyboard and can be flashed to dual-boot linux) and there are already plans for a Transformer 2, which depending on price, I may wait for (running a Tegra 3 quad-core.)
So, I'm highly considering switching to Asus.
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Well...I've had it for a couple months, and Dell has still not delivered on their promise of official Honeycomb.
I just got hired for a job, and should have a few hundred by the end of the month.
The Asus transformer meets all my needs - an official Honeycomb tablet, it can be used as a notebook (it has a docking keyboard and can be flashed to dual-boot linux) and there are already plans for a Transformer 2, which depending on price, I may wait for (running a Tegra 3 quad-core.)
So, I'm highly considering switching to Asus.
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Ditto... Dell is suckin it up when it comes to support.
Do it. I hate this thing. Steve has done so much and it's still only bearable. I used it for like the first month I had it and went back to using my much smaller phone. Mainly due to the terrible display. Unfortunately there is no rom that can improve a display. I can't even sell it. People use it and there like oh no thanks. I may have to pay someone to take it away lol. But for realz tho. I would sell it if I were you. Just hope you have an easier time of it than I am.
Edited because I'm tired and shiz didn't make sense.
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I have both the transformer and the streak . I like them both. To each there own.
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You people crack me up and I'm not saying this to be mean, but why would you buy a device on hopes that it may or may not be upgraded. Think about it, staples ad's and website say OTA Honeycomb Upgradable, and Dell's website just says something like OTA Upgradable. To me that doesn't say it will be it says it can be. If and when this gets upgraded it would be 3.2, but you can't just snap your fingers and say here it is. That's not to say that Dell is working on an upgrade because I don't know. I'm not sure what angles you are using this at, but the angles I use it at to view e-mails, read a book are fine for me. I mean I wouldn't have paid $300 for the WiFi only (which is what I have) nor would I have locked myself into a contract with it, but I gladly bought it with the $100 off coupon and I did have to return my first one because the capacitive buttons weren't working. You can't buy technology on hopes and promises, you have to research and decide if the device as is will fulfill your needs. If not don't buy it. This for me is doing everything I need it to as is. I want Honeycomb as much as the next person, but what this device has been out what at total of 6 months or something and honeycomb has been available for less than that. I've had my droid 2 for a year and Verizon still has yet to roll out Gingerbread for it (I did however get tired of waiting and flashed CM7 on it).
If you are leaving and you say you cant sell it easy, ill buy it from you if you make me a good enough deal. I love my ds7. Ill get one for my wife
Let me know!
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You people crack me up and I'm not saying this to be mean, but why would you buy a device on hopes that it may or may not be upgraded. Think about it, staples ad's and website say OTA Honeycomb Upgradable, and Dell's website just says something like OTA Upgradable. To me that doesn't say it will be it says it can be. If and when this gets upgraded it would be 3.2, but you can't just snap your fingers and say here it is. That's not to say that Dell is working on an upgrade because I don't know. I'm not sure what angles you are using this at, but the angles I use it at to view e-mails, read a book are fine for me. I mean I wouldn't have paid $300 for the WiFi only (which is what I have) nor would I have locked myself into a contract with it, but I gladly bought it with the $100 off coupon and I did have to return my first one because the capacitive buttons weren't working. You can't buy technology on hopes and promises, you have to research and decide if the device as is will fulfill your needs. If not don't buy it. This for me is doing everything I need it to as is. I want Honeycomb as much as the next person, but what this device has been out what at total of 6 months or something and honeycomb has been available for less than that. I've had my droid 2 for a year and Verizon still has yet to roll out Gingerbread for it (I did however get tired of waiting and flashed CM7 on it).
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Go to Dell automated support and search Honeycomb. It says there WILL be Honeycomb. They didn't say that it's upgradeable, they said there would be an upgrade. In fact, I think if there is not a Honeycomb upgrade, it may be enough that someone can take a class-action against them. And you make a good point that the tablet has been out longer than the OS, but that can cut both ways. This means Dell had the hardware plenty long to create a Honeycomb build for it...if they were going to, I don't see why it wouldn't have been done by now.
pyraxiate said:
If you are leaving and you say you cant sell it easy, ill buy it from you if you make me a good enough deal. I love my ds7. Ill get one for my wife
Let me know!
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I am considering keeping it as a backup or to carry around, even if I get the transformer (7 inch is easier for me.) But if I do decide to sell it, I'll tell you
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I am considering keeping it as a backup or to carry around, even if I get the transformer (7 inch is easier for me.) But if I do decide to sell it, I'll tell you
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I bought mine with the staples deal because it was a 7 inch tablet with nice speakers and a tegra 2 processor and the two cameras. It is a good deal for 200.00. If HC gets on here that is a bonus for me.
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I bought mine with the staples deal because it was a 7 inch tablet with nice speakers and a tegra 2 processor and the two cameras. It is a good deal for 200.00. If HC gets on here that is a bonus for me.
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I picked mine up for 200 brand new in box unopened and a new unopened otterbox commuter case. I love craigslist lol. So far overall im pleased with it. Screen resolution with rdp is acceptable. I use mine tethered to my 50 / Month cricket kyocera zio phone. Their internet speed is so much better than at&t 3g service. With a 7 inch screen I wouldn't want a higher resolution. A higher resolution means everything would be tiny in rdp (I need to use it while driving like a touchscreen mobile workstation) and so far with a bluetooth keyboard it does nicely. The viewing angle isn't the best but acceptable. Im not even pressed for hc because it does EVERYTHING it should without a hitch ( rdp, netflix, movies, game console emulators, 3-4 hrs battery w/ heavy usage, ect). You get the storage graphics and processor of the large tablets ....but also something even better. IT FITS IN YOUR BACK POCKET!!!!!!!!! (Im a smaller guy w/ a 30 inch waist and it fits easily in any pair of Levi or old navy rear pants pocket I have
Just my opinion though.
bluesy_92, you're talking about this link: www5 dot nohold dot net/Dell/Loginr.aspx?pid=7&Streak=Streak%205&login=1&userrole=USen which is not even on the dell website, and holds no merit in my opinion. I would look at this: www dot dell dot com/us/p/mobile-streak-7/pd click on tech specs and it clearly states "Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) with Over the Air Upgrade Capability". Class action suit? So if my laptop is not compatible with the next version of Windows or Linux, I should go after the manufacturer of the laptop, or I can't run OSX (not that I would want to) on my laptop should I go after Apple or HP? The fact is, that Honeycomb 3 and 3.1 had well documented problems with the 7" screen size so since 3.2 which is said to fix this has only been available for what a few weeks, if that? So while I agree we need Honeycomb, I'm patient enough for Dell and Google to get it right. Google hasn't even released the source yet because it's just not done. Would you rather have a device that is at least IMO stable on 2.2.2 or a device that may or may not be stable on Honeycomb as it stands? Why are there no Honeycomb 7" tablets on the market currently? I mean even searching for the Chinese brands there are none. When we get it, if we get it, it will be awesome, but as it stands I'm happy having a device that actually works for me, this is not my first tablet, in fact it's my 4th.
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bluesy_92, you're talking about this link: www5 dot nohold dot net/Dell/Loginr.aspx?pid=7&Streak=Streak%205&login=1&userrole=USen which is not even on the dell website, and holds no merit in my opinion. I would look at this: www dot dell dot com/us/p/mobile-streak-7/pd click on tech specs and it clearly states "Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) with Over the Air Upgrade Capability". Class action suit? So if my laptop is not compatible with the next version of Windows or Linux, I should go after the manufacturer of the laptop, or I can't run OSX (not that I would want to) on my laptop should I go after Apple or HP? The fact is, that Honeycomb 3 and 3.1 had well documented problems with the 7" screen size so since 3.2 which is said to fix this has only been available for what a few weeks, if that? So while I agree we need Honeycomb, I'm patient enough for Dell and Google to get it right. Google hasn't even released the source yet because it's just not done. Would you rather have a device that is at least IMO stable on 2.2.2 or a device that may or may not be stable on Honeycomb as it stands? Why are there no Honeycomb 7" tablets on the market currently? I mean even searching for the Chinese brands there are none. When we get it, if we get it, it will be awesome, but as it stands I'm happy having a device that actually works for me, this is not my first tablet, in fact it's my 4th.
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A computer being compatible with the next version of Windows is a different matter - unless it is specifically stated that it will be compatible.
As it stands now, it says 2.2 on the Dell website, because that is the current OS. The fact that is says that there WILL, not MIGHT, be an upgrade, means they need to deliver. And as far as I'm concerned, there are already 7 inch tablets planned for release on Honeycomb 3.2, and we've had the hardware MUCH longer than they have, Dell had time. At the very least, if Honeycomb isn't coming out anytime soon, they can at least acknowledge it, rather than pretending it doesn't exist, and say straight-up that there is going to be a wait.
Oh, and if you haven't been here last week, Dell Mobility was telling people that Honeycomb was already being pushed to devices, despite the fact the update was never pushed. Also, this was around the time of the Staples deal. Any company that lies to their user-base to get sales, does not deserve them.
Yes, 2.2 is very stable, but Dells customer support - not so much.
I understand what you're saying but believe you are missing my point. Yes there are 7" versions planned to be released, like the Acer Iconia A100, which was supposed to come out earlier this year, but has yet to come out due to the issues with Honeycomb and screen size, not that there may not have been hardware issues or something but what I read was mainly honeycomb. Even the much hyped Vizio tablet is shipping with Android 2.3, because as they state "Honeycomb is just not stable, once we feel it's stable we will consider an upgrade". Now don't misunderstand me, yes the tablet we have is Honeycomb compatible, I have yet to find anything on the Dell website that states it WILL get it, though I have read that it was announced at CES that it WILL get it. I believe it will get it. And yes I did read the posts on here regarding Dell telling people it was being pushed when it wasn't. The biggest problem with companies is over promising and under delivering, personally I am not a Dell person (and actually hate the company) and had a hard time actually purchasing a Dell product. But purchased this device based on the hardware and my needs, that and the $100 off, but did not read forums before making my purchase so as not to be swayed. My business partner has the 7" Galaxy tab, and made her ask Verizon before getting locked in if it would ever see Honeycomb, they flat out told her no. Now the staples website does state "Android™ 2.2-based tablet with over-the-air upgrade capability to Android™ 3.0 (Honeycomb). Upgrade date TBA." But I still say, make your purchases based on if the device fills your need as is, not what the device could be. I have had my share of crappy support from Dell in the past with business computers, so much as to tell them to go f$$# themselves I'm voiding the warranty and fixing it myself.
I flip flop like a politician on this tablet. Some days I hate it some days I love it.
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This is best tablet for $199...even with honeystreak thanks djsteve...7 inch tablet perfect size,I use this more than my ipad 2....
Yeah dell will probably not update the streak 7 since 10 inch dell streak pro coming out in Sept..if they do it will be updated with froyo 2.2.3 not honeycomb but who knows for sure...if you go website it doesnt look promising...we will see hopefully we do get update honeycomb-----
Maybe they're holding out in order to release IceCreamSandwich. Why release HC when everyone will be screaming for ice cream? You scream, I scream...we all scream for ice cream.
sdelliott31 said:
I bought mine with the staples deal because it was a 7 inch tablet with nice speakers and a tegra 2 processor and the two cameras. It is a good deal for 200.00. If HC gets on here that is a bonus for me.
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Ditto here. I really like my Archos 70S tablet which pretty much has the same general specs, screen resolution, limited viewing angle, Android 2.2.x, etc. Since its from Archos it plays tons of media even formats the Streak can't. Much lighter than the Streak with better battery life too.
Yet with all that, I think the $200 I paid for my Streak at the Staples sale is a bargain. This is an official Google approved device so no need for a hack just to get market. Has a built-in GPS and enough system memory and storage to run a ton of apps at the same time and have a plethora of downloaded programs to run. The Archos 256 M of memory and 300 M of app storage is quite limiting, but then it was designed with a price point way cheaper than the Streak. So no Gorilla glass either. No dock although it does have a USB port on the device which is handy and a mini HDMI port that I much prefer on a dock like the Streak.
Add to that the Tegra2 chipset on the streak, the capacity to vibrate (I assume that's part of being a Google approved device), a compass (ditto) and there's nothing like it on the market.
Getting HC is just gravy as far as I'm concerned.
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I picked mine up for 200 brand new in box unopened and a new unopened otterbox commuter case. I love craigslist lol. So far overall im pleased with it. Screen resolution with rdp is acceptable. I use mine tethered to my 50 / Month cricket kyocera zio phone. Their internet speed is so much better than at&t 3g service. With a 7 inch screen I wouldn't want a higher resolution. A higher resolution means everything would be tiny in rdp (I need to use it while driving like a touchscreen mobile workstation) and so far with a bluetooth keyboard it does nicely. The viewing angle isn't the best but acceptable. Im not even pressed for hc because it does EVERYTHING it should without a hitch ( rdp, netflix, movies, game console emulators, 3-4 hrs battery w/ heavy usage, ect). You get the storage graphics and processor of the large tablets ....but also something even better. IT FITS IN YOUR BACK POCKET!!!!!!!!! (Im a smaller guy w/ a 30 inch waist and it fits easily in any pair of Levi or old navy rear pants pocket I have
Just my opinion though.
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I agree, its really the only tablet that you CAN fit in your pocket, and as far as the viewing goes its not like your displaying it for a whole room to view it at once, by a big screen tv at that...
I'm looking for a Tab, but Transformer seems to big for me. P1000 is the perfect size, but it is pretty old device. Is it still worth buying today?
Thanks.
If you think 7" tablet is a perfect size for you then why not, the Galaxy tab is only 1 year old and it still stands against any other alternatives out in the market today.
I would hardly say just because the tablet is "pretty old" that it isn't a good purchase. It's well supported by developers and the fact that people are still purchasing it... Its a solid working and built piece of kit.
You won't be disappointed.
I would say that they are definitely still worth it. The price point alone is a great reason. You can get a Galaxy tablet for less than half the price of many of the newest tabs.
It's already been shown that these models are capable of running the new firmwares. There are ports of Honeycomb out there already, and though there are still some issues to be ironed out, they work pretty well. Since installing a 2.3.4 rom on my vzw tab, I've been very impressed with how responsive and cleanly it runs.
Having handled some of the newer and larger tablets, I've found that the smaller size is really more ideal to me personally. I can fit my Galaxy tablet in my pocket. My folks for example both have iPads, and they are just much larger and bulkier devices. You can't drop one in your pocket real quick while you are out on the run.
Anyway, hope that helps!
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I would say that they are definitely still worth it. The price point alone is a great reason. You can get a Galaxy tablet for less than half the price of many of the newest tabs.
It's already been shown that these models are capable of running the new firmwares. There are ports of Honeycomb out there already, and though there are still some issues to be ironed out, they work pretty well. Since installing a 2.3.4 rom on my vzw tab, I've been very impressed with how responsive and cleanly it runs.
Having handled some of the newer and larger tablets, I've found that the smaller size is really more ideal to me personally. I can fit my Galaxy tablet in my pocket. My folks for example both have iPads, and they are just much larger and bulkier devices. You can't drop one in your pocket real quick while you are out on the run.
Anyway, hope that helps!
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I live in eastern europe and here the tab's price is almost the same as Transformer's. And that one has Tegra 2 and a nice 10.1' IPS display. They are both here 540 USD / 380 EUR. I tried Iconia A500 Tab, but I was quite disappointed - it was very heavy, typing text while trying to hold with one hand was challenging. The OS and that big display sure looks great, but for now I can't see my self taking this out in the street while walking, or chatting (IM) while sitting in the bus on my way college. How much is the P1000 in the US? Or UK?
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I live in eastern europe and here the tab's price is almost the same as Transformer's. And that one has Tegra 2 and a nice 10.1' IPS display. They are both here 540 USD / 380 EUR. I tried Iconia A500 Tab, but I was quite disappointed - it was very heavy, typing text while trying to hold with one hand was challenging. The OS and that big display sure looks great, but for now I can't see my self taking this out in the street while walking, or chatting (IM) while sitting in the bus on my way college. How much is the P1000 in the US? Or UK?
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In the UK, the P1000 (if you can find any in stock) still goes for around £399 and the P1010 is currently in bestbuy/currys for £299.
But search on ebay or other sites, you can find one for a lot cheaper. I got mine brand new from ebay for £250 (P1000).
Of course, these will probably fall in price when newer alternatives comes out but for now, they are holding its value as they are still popular and people are buying them.
I just bought one today. So far I am happy with it.
I have seen the US models selling new for between $150-200 when you buy from a mobile provider. For example, I know Verizon was selling them earlier this year for $200 when you agreed to a two year service agreement. I've also seen the WiFi only tablets for $350. Personally, I was willing to sign a contract, because having the 3g data access was something I desired.
But, I would do as one of the other posters suggested, and check ebay. As I understand it, you can buy a US model and put a European firmware on it. I would double check that though, as I don't want to tell you something I am not entirely sure of.
Got mine a month ago in aussie land, on a 12 month contract. 0 dollars for the tab and $39 a month for the plan with 8g of data and I get 3 months of the plan for free. Was really happy with that price.
Got mine in Italy for 300 Eur. Best purchase of the year: perfect balance between pocketability and readability, and with Gingerbread it is lag free and quick.
Rumours are that Samsung is going to present a revamped 7" tablet w/ upgraded cpu and amoled screen. I won't upgrade unless it has usb host or otg, which is the feature I miss much on my Tab.
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
Nothing wrong with the P1000. Good support is important. Even if it's a year old it still beats an ipad. Good resolution and speed, and very complete. Very sturdy, durable Gorilla glass.
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If 7" tablet is your preference, get a HTC Flyer or Huawei Ideos Slim?
Unless u want the voice call/sms capabilities
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Got mine in Italy for 300 Eur. Best purchase of the year: perfect balance between pocketability and readability, and with Gingerbread it is lag free and quick.
Rumours are that Samsung is going to present a revamped 7" tablet w/ upgraded cpu and amoled screen. I won't upgrade unless it has usb host or otg, which is the feature I miss much on my Tab.
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
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Any Samsung official reading this would love to put usb otg and make you upgrade
While for me, I ll try not to upgrade, but the amoled screen might tempt me.
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I'm looking for a Tab, but Transformer seems to big for me. P1000 is the perfect size, but it is pretty old device. Is it still worth buying today?
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I bought mine last month, and I love it. My pocket is not that big to fit in the tab, so I bought a small bag to bring around. I was confused whether buying Galaxy S (for super amoled and small factor) or Galaxy Tab (for bigger screen to read ebooks). Well, its worth buying
I bought one a couple of weeks ago, and am very happy so far. Yes, it's a year old - but the screen is very good (much better than alternative 7" tablets'), it's relatively cheap & there's lots of development going on with it.
The next 7" from Samsung is set to have an AMOLED screen & will probably be dual-core, which will be awesome, but I wanted something now & wasn't prepared to 1) wait & 2) pay much more than I did...
Make sure you root & stick Overcome ROM on it! It becomes a different animal once you do!
Got an Asus Transformer for the home/travel, but day to day chucking in pocket (albeit large pockets), still love the Tab. Got it for 200bucks so can't complain.
If I had to pay full price? I think I'd skip, for that price a newer 7" tablet would still be preferred.
Main thing it comes down to though is where are you, and do you need voice? if so, Tab might still be perfect for you.
It's a good question to ask here, as the answer isn't obvious. Without a tablet, I would, if I had the cash, get the Tab again. It's portability still makes it a winner for me.
Waiting for the next model is ok, but... these things always seem to take 6months longer than initially planned it appears.
Thee galaxy pad still a good tab/phone. its fast, not to big and have a lot of apps/games that works so...
Galaxy tab worth to buy.why?
The best tablet for 7 inch tablet.
Equiped with microsd,simcard for mms,sms,3g and telephone
the best size to carry around even easily beat ipad
Development of Custom rom and stock rom are always up to date
unless samsung release new 7 inch tablet with dual core processor and amoled sceen
then it is not worthy anymore to purchase
When I got the P1000, my standard in speed and responsiveness on android began to change. I began to compare the Qualcomm chipset based androids vs. the Hummingbird of Samsung. The P1000 (and the original Galaxy S Plus which runs the same thing) is really good and even better can match the next gen Qualcomm. See how the original Galaxy S graphics even beats the Galaxy S Plus (newer release), is because of the same speedy setup done before.
The P1000 is a very good device. Really crazy why Samsung shortchanged many unknowing people as they downgraded the P1010 with an inferior chipset and graphics.
Is there already a dual core 7" as good as the P1000? The Dell Streak 7 besides abit more massive has a problem with batt life. Archos I didn't bother to consider. Is there anymore? The Galaxy Tab 8.9 is coming out better (dunno when), but it is not 7". Nothing compares that I know... for now.
I've only had mine for about a week, I bought it second hand for a great price and I love it so far. I use it more than my laptop and my Asus Transformer. I LOVE the size. The 10" tabs you pretty much need to use both hand to hold it all the time, the G.Tab easily in 1. Plus being able to type with both thumbs instead of finger pecking is a HUGE plus.
Yeah, the Galaxy Seven will probably be out in a couple months but if you need one now then it's a great little tab.
I was at the shop today again, played with XOOM and again with Galaxy Tab. Damn its size is just perfect and the screen so detailed and feels high quality. But then I tried to do what I do on My N900 (Maemo 5 OS), and WOW :O IT CAN NOT MULTITASK. I never noticed that! You can not have skype online and browse the web while listening to music. I asked the guy at the shop. He confirmed, just some can "run in the background" but there is no task switcher... Maybe you can make it multitask? On iOS i have backgrounder and Kirikae and it works like a charm, can you do the same on android?
Skype online while browsing the web and listening to music? won't the sound conflict?
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I just saw that Bestbuy will be selling the Dell Streak 7" with Honeycomb installed for $160. I saw this right after I finally decided to go ahead and buy a Kindle Fire. Now it seems almost like a no brainer to get a near full featured tablet with the same size screen as a Kindle Fire but for $40 less, but it also seems too good to be true.
So I wanted to know, are you all happy with your Streak? Would you say that $160 is worth it.
I really appreciate any input.
Thanks.
I felt in love with Dell Streak 7 already, too bad that I bought this for my gf, and giving it to her tomorrow. Dell Streak 7 is a good tablet, of coz the resolution is not high so it doesn't let you play all the HD games and you don't have much RAM to play heavy games, but if you use it for entertainment, relax with no "tough" game then it is better Kindle Fire. And of coz this is just my opinion. To be frank, I don't play much with my Iconia A500 since I got this
Very much so! I love this little bad boy underdog.
I am happy with mine. I wish the screen had a little better resolution. Bluetooth tethering to my phone is a snap. I basically wanted something that was like my phone but larger and it works just perfect as that. Its much easier and faster to use than having to drag out my laptop.
I initially liked my DS7 but over time it began to annoy me. The screen began to make my eyes hurt when reading and the battery would run down quickly. I ended up getting several Nook Tablets for the family and for my purposes, I'm more satisfied. The NT screen is much sharper and the battery lasts hours longer than the DS. I only used the camera once and never used the GPS so the trade is worth it since I mainly use my tabs for reading, surfing and light game play. I did initially miss the variety of apps but someone came up witha workaround and now I can sideload with apps free sites and Amazon app store.
I like my Dell Streak 7, the 7 inch size and weight is much more handy then my 10.1 inch tablet in its portfolio case. Basicly the compact handling of a phone with a readable (as opposed to squintable) screen size. Screen resolution has not been a problem infact it is a nice match to Netflix.
The short 4-5 hour battery life is the only aspect I wish was better.
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The short 4-5 hour battery life is the only aspect I wish was better.
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Is that for a mix of usage or for straight video watching?
With my rooted DS7, using SetCPU and setting up custom profiles, I tend to see about 4-5 for watching vidoes, but get about 6-10 hours for playing games, and a 4 day standby time.
The battery isn't a major issue for me. Not a fan of the stock launcher though. Really want to use LauncherPro, but it keeps fc'ing. Anyone have any suggestions on other LauncherPro like launchers?
Also for some reason, I can't listen to voicemails with Google Voice. Still got to figure that one out.
Device does not support WiFi channels 12-14, makes a noise when speakers are enabled, batery life is not so good, WiFi signal is worse than other tabletst, display is very bad (angle/resolution), also the device is clumby (fat and heavy)
BUT
it is very cheap and very fast. im fine with it so far, but i might switch to another device.
got one form BEST BUY. still on the way.!!!! but I'm Sure the screen not the BEST!
so far so good only one problem it is not reading from SD Card.
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I just saw that Bestbuy will be selling the Dell Streak 7" with Honeycomb installed for $160. I saw this right after I finally decided to go ahead and buy a Kindle Fire. Now it seems almost like a no brainer to get a near full featured tablet with the same size screen as a Kindle Fire but for $40 less, but it also seems too good to be true.
So I wanted to know, are you all happy with your Streak? Would you say that $160 is worth it.
I really appreciate any input.
Thanks.
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No I am not. And Don't buy a streak 7 given so many much better choices out there in the market.
My DS7 was a total disaster now I see it. It was my first tablet and I was inexperience to make an informed buy. I bought from TMO store on the release date and then found that no Dev is supporting it.
Eventually I participated a donation led by someone else and we send a device to DJ Steve who became the one and only dedicated dev on DS7, who are also working on many other devices at the same time.
Screen horrible, battery horrible, TMobile 4 G signal always break down for no reason and requite a reboot to get it back. GPS NEVER works well for a trip without a hiccup. This is my third DS7 already because I exchanged the previous 2 with Dell because all sorts of reasons.
Since you are asking advise I assume you won't want to listen to holiday choirs and holy praises. I am the bad guy who is critical.
Bottom line, DONT BUY A DISCONTINUED PRODUCT WITHOUT DEV SUPPORT.
I'm thinking about what 7-inch tablet i'll going to buy: Dell Streak 7 or Lenovo A1.
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No I am not. And Don't buy a streak 7 given so many much better choices out there in the market.
My DS7 was a total disaster now I see it. It was my first tablet and I was inexperience to make an informed buy. I bought from TMO store on the release date and then found that no Dev is supporting it.
Eventually I participated a donation led by someone else and we send a device to DJ Steve who became the one and only dedicated dev on DS7, who are also working on many other devices at the same time.
Screen horrible, battery horrible, TMobile 4 G signal always break down for no reason and requite a reboot to get it back. GPS NEVER works well for a trip without a hiccup. This is my third DS7 already because I exchanged the previous 2 with Dell because all sorts of reasons.
Since you are asking advise I assume you won't want to listen to holiday choirs and holy praises. I am the bad guy who is critical.
Bottom line, DONT BUY A DISCONTINUED PRODUCT WITHOUT DEV SUPPORT.
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What other products are there? Currently it's the cheapest (mid/high end) 7" tablet available, it's main competetors are the gtab7/+ which is either lower specced or more expensive. It was just sold for $160 on black friday new and can be found pretty easily for
~$250 on ebay in good condition.
Sub $200 tabs cant compete with it as they have very low end internals.
The S7 with Froyo and the s7 with Honeycomb are completely different devices (not literally, but the way it works)
I didnt buy mine until black friday as I so no point with froyo on it, but it's pretty great with HC.
As for the 4g, I honestly dont see the point of a 4g tablet, I have the wifi one and simply tether to my S5 (and also avoid paying a 2nd line just for data)
The GPS is rather weak on it, but in my case the wifi one is likely worse at wifi then the 4g one. It works with some hiccups.
So what if it'd discontinued, even if dell did support it for another 6 more months, the most we'd get is like 3.2 -> 3.2.2/3.2.4, there's no chance it'd get updated to ICS.
You have your warrentee, they're not gonna magically/instantly null it, they're still gonna support active warrentee owners until they all expire. (it might become them only offering refurbs but this is still support)
Bottom line: for $190-240 there's really little competition, it's either the S7 or the gtabs.
The Gtab 7 is slower but about the same price
The Gtab 7+ is faster but more expensive
The Lenovo A1 is slower but about the same price
How about nook tablet or kindle fire? Since people here enjoy custom rom anyway, os on these two won't be a problem I guess
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Hmm that is a good point, I had forgotten about those.
Depending on how you look at it, they only run GB and not HC/ICS.
If you wanna use it as a normal android tablet, they're not currently ready for that purpose as they dont have any stable roms yet.
I do believe the kindle is slower, but it'd definitely got more devs, and when CM9 hits stable it might be a pretty good choice. It's tegra 2 vs CM9 for the same price point.
I cant say much about the nooks, the old nook is much slower but cheaper and will likely get CM9 (it already has CM7), I dont read much at all about the new nook except I expect it to also get CM9 eventually.
I assume the S7 will still be the fastest of all 7" tabs except vs the gtab7+.
The nooks and kindles are advertised as ereaders, with the kindle as kina ereader+multimedia. They're not advertised as full on tablets so they can be underpowered for their age.
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No I am not. And Don't buy a streak 7 given so many much better choices out there in the market.
same here. i get more and more unhappy every day. multitouch works only to up to two fingers. you are right about gps, i tested it and got only 2 satelites in 2 minutes while standing in the garden.
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same here. i get more and more unhappy every day. multitouch works only to up to two fingers. you are right about gps, i tested it and got only 2 satelites in 2 minutes while standing in the garden.
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There is a fix for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085354
I lock on in 30 seconds.
I guess I look at it as being the best $160 tablet I've ever owned. The only issue is the battery life, but I can charge it twice a day for the hundreds I'm saving over comparable devices.
The screen sure does take a lot of flack on the Streak 7, but if you look for the silver lining, just about every app works at that resolution. You don't have some of the scaling issues that higher resolution tabs have.
I also hear a lot of comparisons to the Fire and the Nook...and, if they get root and a good custom ROM, then they might be better for "basic" tablet functions, but if you want full tablet functions out of the box, with all the cameras, mics, GPS, etc...then the Streak is still a better option.
Ah well, this forum is pretty much dead, so I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes?).
I'm happy though!
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I guess I look at it as being the best $160 tablet I've ever owned. The only issue is the battery life, but I can charge it twice a day for the hundreds I'm saving over comparable devices.
Ah well, this forum is pretty much dead, so I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes?).
I'm happy though!
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I bought a Dell Streak 7" last week that was a couple of months old for $150. It came with Froyo but I upgraded to Honeycomb and it's like having a different tablet, really nice for what it is.
It's not an iPad2, Asus Transformer, Xoom, Acer etc. I looked at all of those tablets two days ago and the screens on them are very much nicer, but...they cost $300-$400-900+, not $150. The Streak is a real tablet not one of those $100 unknown brand Android tablet gadgets that last a week. The wifi and GPS work great along with having Honeycomb now I really like it.
I owned an iPad2 for 4 months and it is a fantastic device, it also cost me $1000 for wifi/3G and a Smart Cover. I've had the Evo4G since Aug. of '10 and love Android so in the future I'm thinking about the Asus Transformer that's coming out later this month. It will cost 2 to 3 times as much as the Streak, it will have a beautiful screen, and be worth the extra money no doubt.
I use the Streak for Flying and it is outstanding for various Aviation moving map programs. For $150 instead of $1400-2500 for a Garmin GPS aviation unit it is a bargain.
So you're not alone, the Dell Streak 7 does what it's supposed to for a reasonable price, and I like it too.
DC
I love my NC. My son does too, but he wants to get a full sized tablet. His budget is $300. Anyone have some experience with some of the older tablets that you can purchase refurbished in this range? Any help would be great.
Wait for NEXUS 7 at Google IO
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Get the Nexus 7. I love my Nook Color but sadly it's Specs have officially been labeled outdated by the Nexus 7. For $200/250 You get a Quad-Core CPU, 12core GPU, 8/16gb of Storage, 1gb RAM, WiFi, Bluetooth(With an actual Antenna), NFC, $25 Google Play credit, Tons of Preloaded Apps, Android 4.1 Jellybean. The list is just pure beauty. If you have $200 to burn then this is THE Tablet to get now. Amazon and B&N just got one-upped Big Time. Nexus 7 ships Mid-July and is available for PreOrder from the Google Play store: HERE
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I love my NC. My son does too, but he wants to get a full sized tablet. His budget is $300. Anyone have some experience with some of the older tablets that you can purchase refurbished in this range? Any help would be great.
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Well, you said full-size. There is the (discontinued) TouchPad, which is 10" or so, and you can get those pretty cheap.
They run CM9 pretty well, I have to say. (full disclosure: I helped port it). My big issue with the touchpad is I'm not a fan of the size, and it's a little thick/heavy.
If by full size, you mean a 10.1" tablet, then your options are very limited. The really good 10inch tablets start at about $350 (the 16GB Asus TF300 can be had for a twenty bucks more than that).
Alternatively, if you're not looking for something cutting edge, then there are plenty of refurbished last-year models going around for less than $300. Acer is selling refurbished A500 units for as little as $229 on its eBay store, and if you keep an eye open on sites like techbargains.com for similar deals that come and go.
(Refurbished might be a bit of a gamble, but it's paid off handsomely for me in the past -- bought my Nook Color that way too. Buying direct from the manufacturer helps though. Just make sure they really are refurbished and not "pre-owned".)
Finally (at the risk of raising the ire of the Android gods, you can also get a refurbished iPad 2 for $319 from Apple, which isn't a bad price either.
But if you could stretch a little beyond $300, and want something new, then I think the Asus TF300 is probably your best bet at the moment. There might be some downward pressure on 10-inch prices with the introduction of the HD models (the Acer A700 is only $450, which is the same price as the lower-def A510, so that has to drop) but I haven't seen anything yet.
I would definitely go with the Nexus 7. I planned on selling my Nook and HP Touchpad to get one.
Nexus 7 would be stunning if Google included a mSD slot. Looks gr8 as is, not stunning though.
Which one would you prefer, the nexus 7 or a galaxy tab plus 16gb wifi only? The last ones are at $237.90 refurbished at amazon. The GT+ will receive a software upgrade, so the only differences will be the ir blaster, back camera, sd slot, screen resolution, NFC (don't know what it is ) and the chipset. Which one would you prefer?
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umm...Nexus 7...
quad core Tegra 3 processor, 12 core GPU, NFC (wireless data transfer that is more secure than bluetooth) and a whole bunch more goodies...
plus it comes with 4.1 installed...
all at a low low price of $199...
can't beat it
Several sources say Google doesn't take any margin on the product, so you are basically paying the manufacturer price for the Nexus 7 (and any required warranty by law). There won't be anyone beating that for a while.
Oh, and it weighs the same as the Nook Color/Tablet
The only bummer I see is that adobe flash won't be officially supported (if I didn't misunderstood), but since the N7 may be the next developers tab I think it will be somehow updated by devs.
The lack of sd slot almost made me not to be interested on it but when I reviewed the GT+ vs Transformer Prime reviews and benchmarks I got convinced, the Prime is just to fast. If I get the N7 I will buy the 16gb version, 8gb it's just to little (like the Nook Color's memory).
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