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Hello everybody.
I ordered my Nexus One yesterday- It's shipping right now. Can't wait!
But, I'm curious if it's worth unlocking the bootloader and installing Cyanogen Mod when it arrives. I know that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, and installing CM might brick the phone if I do it wrong, but I've heard CM adds some pretty good features. (Apps on SDCard, extra Live Wallpaper features, etc.)
So, is it worth it? Would appreciate any advice.
The only thing that could brick your phone is the radio update not Cyanogen Mod. I wouldn't recommend doing it till 2 weeks - a month after having the phone and making sure it works well
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
christiankk said:
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
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I was just asking what general features and reasons to upgrade to it over the Stock ROM. But to answer your question, I don't have it yet, so I can't really say much, but I do browse the web, download stuff/apps, listen to music, play games, etc.
christiankk said:
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
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What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
faraz1992 said:
What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
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Yeah - what about them?
If OP finds it important, go for the ROM - otherwise don't.
Pretty easy, eh?
MillyBays said:
I was just asking what general features and reasons to upgrade to it over the Stock ROM. But to answer your question, I don't have it yet, so I can't really say much, but I do browse the web, download stuff/apps, listen to music, play games, etc.
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It is good that you play games, however - if you don't state your needs how on earth can we help you?
I am hungry - should I eat McDonalds or KFC?
faraz1992 said:
What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
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I do find tethering important, and other fixes would be a good thing. But high memory...I never heard that part about the ROM, how does it give you more memory? (I know I sound like a noob)
MillyBays said:
I do find tethering important, and other fixes would be a good thing. But high memory...I never heard that part about the ROM, how does it give you more memory? (I know I sound like a noob)
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I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
christiankk said:
I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
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I do plan on installing quite a few apps...so that might be useful.
Anything else?
christiankk said:
I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
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Actually that's not true.
The himem kernal frees up RAM while apps are stored on the ROM. The only correlation is if you have a lot of apps running more RAM will be helpful (speed) , but it doesn't apply to storing them
look its up to you guys but from my experiences i well never look back
the stock was laggy compared to CM
some of the apps you can get such as
auto memory
cm updater
droid wall (awsomest app eva)
metamorph
shootme (ok its not the best but pretty cool lol)
N1 Flash light
apps to sd
there heaps more but its also CM mod
like he has put a way to wake up the phone with the trackerball
best thing ever
change songs while asleep by holding the volume button
all the updates that will be coming to the nexus one (such as flash)
so dont worry bout that
The only downside is the whole voided-warranty thing. If you don't mind that (I don't - I unlocked my bootloader on day 1 with the N1), you LOSE nothing. There isn't even a risk of bricking your phone - CM doesn't touch the bootlaoder or the recovery, so you can always reflash CM or flash something else.
Unlocking the bootloader (regardless of ROM choice) lets you use a hacked recovery, which gives you backup and selective wipe options - a must for playing with your phone.
CM's ROM gives you faster performance, a faster update cycle, plus tons of cool features: root access included, trackball wake, himem, dalvik cache in /cache (frees up lots of app space if you don't use apps2sd). Plus, pretty much all of the kernel developers out there (IntersectRaven, Ivan, Pershoot, etc.) use CM's source for their overclocking and undervolting (improving performance while improving battery life) experimentation.
Yes its worth flashing for higher mem and other little goodies that come with the ROM. Had my phone for barely a hour and rooted it. Now i use cm updater whenever i want to use a newer ROM and im good to go. CM updater made the reinstall process super easy.
MillyBays said:
Hello everybody.
I ordered my Nexus One yesterday- It's shipping right now. Can't wait!
But, I'm curious if it's worth unlocking the bootloader and installing Cyanogen Mod when it arrives. I know that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, and installing CM might brick the phone if I do it wrong, but I've heard CM adds some pretty good features. (Apps on SDCard, extra Live Wallpaper features, etc.)
So, is it worth it? Would appreciate any advice.
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Yes.
It is.
I have yet to see a thread where someone says "OMFG I VOIDED MY WARRANTY FOR THIS CRAP? I WANT STOCK NEXUS BACK!"
of course, maybe I missed it....
I love the ability to play FLAC files on my Nexus with the CM
It seems that it hadn't been discussed before, and I find it very important. 2.3.4 stock ROM, and all the ROMs derived from that have the VM Heap size set to 48M, while at 2.2 this value is 32M. At normal usage 32M is perfectly enough, so I highly recommend to change it. The easiest way is to download VM Heap tool from market , its usage is obvious.
(Of course it requires root privileges.)
Why dont you simply add it in build.prop? Find the corresponding ling in dev forum.
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N00BY0815 said:
Why dont you simply add it in build.prop? Find the corresponding ling in dev forum.
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Obviously it is possible to do this via editing build.prop - I suggested this method because it is easier for a non-advanced user. (VM Heap tool does nothing else than changing this value in build.prop and reboot.) (I couldn't find this issue in the forum, that's why I mentioned here.)
thanks for this advice
So this is interesting... But a few feedbacks from people who had done it would be very helpful. What would we gain if we do it, did it really help, is memory level better? I wanna try it but i played with my phone tooo much recently i am getting a little scared.
Pondera said:
So this is interesting... But a few feedbacks from people who had done it would be very helpful. What would we gain if we do it, did it really help, is memory level better? I wanna try it but i played with my phone tooo much recently i am getting a little scared.
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Sure, but I can only share my experience, others can share theirs
Currently I run Zeus 3.2 with all the LG options added, and free RAM is usually >100M, sometimes it goes down to cca. 80M.
I have LG launcher, some LG widgets (contacts, calendar, battery), Battery Spy running, sometimes the browser, GMail, LG Mail, other apps), so it can be considered heavy usage.
Actually the free RAM is 135MB. (uptime cca. 2 days.)
Hi everyone... We're waiting offical JB but seems to be not coming. Whatever.
My problems or Questions is
I try a lot roms ( |TWBased| cuz i use s-pen futures) and every roms is same problem for me... When i install a new rom (my choice is clean install) the first week is like a heaven smooth-fast-stable... But then What's going on i don't know phone is lagging,heating etc.
I'm on BurtROM... In fact i recommend everybody rom is good i think. of use at best.
This problem is the same for everyone? all JellyBean roms like this? Or this problem just for me?
in fact i hear people install 300apps and say phone is still good.
What am I doing? I don't play a game actually. I use too much social apps, drawing and music thats it.
Thank you for your answers
PEACE!
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Hi everyone... We're waiting offical JB but seems to be not coming. Whatever.
My problems or Questions is
I try a lot roms ( |TWBased| cuz i use s-pen futures) and every roms is same problem for me... When i install a new rom (my choice is clean install) the first week is like a heaven smooth-fast-stable... But then What's going on i don't know phone is lagging,heating etc.
I'm on BurtROM... In fact i recommend everybody rom is good i think. of use at best.
This problem is the same for everyone? all JellyBean roms like this? Or this problem just for me?
in fact i hear people install 300apps and say phone is still good.
What am I doing? I don't play a game actually. I use too much social apps, drawing and music thats it.
Thank you for your answers
PEACE!
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Try the "top" command in the terminal emulator to see if anything is keeping your cpu busy.
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Look dude,
You right that the Phone its run like heaven but if u full eith usless apps your USB Storage thr phone will drag some cpu.....Try deleting usless app and make sure that everytime you finish with an app you remove apps from Multitask and Clear Memory from RAM->Clear Memory.....
orcunpakten said:
Hi everyone... We're waiting offical JB but seems to be not coming. Whatever.
My problems or Questions is
I try a lot roms ( |TWBased| cuz i use s-pen futures) and every roms is same problem for me... When i install a new rom (my choice is clean install) the first week is like a heaven smooth-fast-stable... But then What's going on i don't know phone is lagging,heating etc.
I'm on BurtROM... In fact i recommend everybody rom is good i think. of use at best.
This problem is the same for everyone? all JellyBean roms like this? Or this problem just for me?
in fact i hear people install 300apps and say phone is still good.
What am I doing? I don't play a game actually. I use too much social apps, drawing and music thats it.
Thank you for your answers
PEACE!
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Social apps are well known to use a lot of energy as they always attempt syncing with servers.
Can we run SuperCharger on our phones? And if we can can somebody please give me instructions. I will be very thankful.
13~BigBear~13 said:
Can we run SuperCharger on our phones? And if we can can somebody please give me instructions. I will be very thankful.
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Most folks here don't use that anymore and for good reason, the script does more harm than good. Most of the custom ROMs/kernels are pre-tweaked these days for the most part and a script like V6 tends to just clash with them. That being said, if you are still are determined to use it all you need is Script manager from Play. Download the V6 script and then run it using that app. At least make a nandroid so you can undo things if the results are undesirable for you.
Yea I just won't. But this phone is an OK phone but I want to try and squeeze as much ram and not to make it run behind like it does really well on slim bean 4.1.2 but I just want to get everything out of this phone as I can.
13~BigBear~13 said:
Yea I just won't. But this phone is an OK phone but I want to try and squeeze as much ram and not to make it run behind like it does really well on slim bean 4.1.2 but I just want to get everything out of this phone as I can.
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Try Auto Killer to manage the RAM, it's about as good or better than anything. Just always keep in mind that with only 512mb of RAM and less than 360mb usable RAM you will never get a lag free experience unless you use a Gingerbread ROM.
ArtfulDodger said:
Try Auto Killer to manage the RAM, it's about as good or better than anything. Just always keep in mind that with only 512mb of RAM and less than 360mb usable RAM you will never get a lag free experience unless you use a Gingerbread ROM.
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Really? While you do make some good points, I'd have to disagree with you about a couple of things. First off, using auto killers isn't a good idea with Android, period. They do more harm down the road, causing instabilities in the ROM and apps. There are several write-ups about this around the web - just search and you'll find them. Secondly, even the stock TouchWiz GB is slow and laggy, as is Peach Sunrise and all the other GB ROMs. Sorry, but it's true. Some ROMs might seem okay, but when it comes right down to it, Jelly Bean has been a major improvement in overall speed. I'm sure if you put 2 Exhibit's side-by-side with stock Gingerbread and a vanila JB AOSP (such as SuperNexus), compared the speed and responsiveness, the JB device would win hands-down.
There are ways to help with the performance of this phone, however. There's a whole thread dedicated to it right here. Something not mentioned there because that thread is a little dated, is the beautiful app known as Greenify. Essentially, what Greenify does is freeze/unfreeze apps on-the-fly. It's a similar method to how you do it with Titanium Backup or other apps that can freeze apps, but Greenify does it in such a way that the apps don't disappear from the launcher, and will unfreeze them as soon as they're opened. When they're frozen, they won't take up precious RAM, CPU cycles, and won't drain the battery. Due to it's nature of freezing apps, it's not recommended to use Greenify on the launcher, live wallpapers, icon packs, or anything you use widgets with. All other apps (especially Facebook) are fair game. Good luck!
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Really? While you do make some good points, I'd have to disagree with you about a couple of things. First off, using auto killers isn't a good idea with Android, period. They do more harm down the road, causing instabilities in the ROM and apps. There are several write-ups about this around the web - just search and you'll find them. Secondly, even the stock TouchWiz GB is slow and laggy, as is Peach Sunrise and all the other GB ROMs. Sorry, but it's true. Some ROMs might seem okay, but when it comes right down to it, Jelly Bean has been a major improvement in overall speed. I'm sure if you put 2 Exhibit's side-by-side with stock Gingerbread and a vanila JB AOSP (such as SuperNexus), compared the speed and responsiveness, the JB device would win hands-down.
There are ways to help with the performance of this phone, however. There's a whole thread dedicated to it right here. Something not mentioned there because that thread is a little dated, is the beautiful app known as Greenify. Essentially, what Greenify does is freeze/unfreeze apps on-the-fly. It's a similar method to how you do it with Titanium Backup or other apps that can freeze apps, but Greenify does it in such a way that the apps don't disappear from the launcher, and will unfreeze them as soon as they're opened. When they're frozen, they won't take up precious RAM, CPU cycles, and won't drain the battery. Due to it's nature of freezing apps, it's not recommended to use Greenify on the launcher, live wallpapers, icon packs, or anything you use widgets with. All other apps (especially Facebook) are fair game. Good luck!
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Actually I have the answer courtesy of Hatememarkez. NOS script: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
As I just posted over in the Pacman thread amazingly I was able to get Gnow, Maps, Poweramp and Boat Browser running at the same time and my phone did not freeze up. No lag even. I'm in shock right now with the hell I've been through with this phone.
I know about Greenify but frankly I don't think it does much as I didn't get battery improvement or performance improvement out of it. Reason being your biggest resource eater in JB are Google apps. Greenify won't keep them hibernated. Seeder helps a little bit, but just a little.
On those GB ROMs, forget Peach. I'm talking about RebelROM and CM7. They are the fastest ROMs we have for this phone, just my opinion as I've used about everything that is offered for this phone. Although right now Baked Bean in conjunction with NOS is kicking major a** so I may have to amend my comments. Thing is I've been burned every time I say something like that so who knows. If a week from now things are the same, then it's V-day!
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Actually I have the answer courtesy of Hatememarkez. NOS script: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
As I just posted over in the Pacman thread amazingly I was able to get Gnow, Maps, Poweramp and Boat Browser running at the same time and my phone did not freeze up. No lag even. I'm in shock right now with the hell I've been through with this phone.
I know about Greenify but frankly I don't think it does much as I didn't get battery improvement or performance improvement out of it. Reason being your biggest resource eater in JB are Google apps. Greenify won't keep them hibernated. Seeder helps a little bit, but just a little.
On those GB ROMs, forget Peach. I'm talking about RebelROM and CM7. They are the fastest ROMs we have for this phone, just my opinion as I've used about everything that is offered for this phone. Although right now Baked Bean in conjunction with NOS is kicking major a** so I may have to amend my comments. Thing is I've been burned every time I say something like that so who knows. If a week from now things are the same, then it's V-day!
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Do you know if NOS script would work with slimbean 4.1.2?
it should just read the thread and do a backup
smartguy044 said:
it should just read the thread and do a backup
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Thanks for your reply. Also, do you happen to know how the tweaks in NOS script differ from V6?
i have no idea. i only used v6 once and the was a few phones ago when i had the note
an0maly13 said:
Thanks for your reply. Also, do you happen to know how the tweaks in NOS script differ from V6?
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Read the two threads to compare but far as I'm concerned the difference is that NOS actually works for the ROM and not against it. It's also MUCH easier to install than that cumbersome script V6 uses.
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Read the two threads to compare but far as I'm concerned the difference is that NOS actually works for the ROM and not against it. It's also MUCH easier to install than that cumbersome script V6 uses.
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I would read the threads but I'm an amateur at this stuff, so I'm can't really understand the jargon yet. I'm looking into trying NOS though; how can I check my busybox version?
an0maly13 said:
I would read the threads but I'm an amateur at this stuff, so I'm can't really understand the jargon yet. I'm looking into trying NOS though; how can I check my busybox version?
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Just open the Busy Box app and it will tell you. If you install updates from Play you should have the latest version though.
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Just open the Busy Box app and it will tell you. If you install updates from Play you should have the latest version though.
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Thanks. I looked from the busybox app and it only lets me install up to 1.20.2. The NOS script requires 1.20.4?
an0maly13 said:
Thanks. I looked from the busybox app and it only lets me install up to 1.20.2. The NOS script requires 1.20.4?
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Look closer, it's 1.21.0. If not you need an update from Play.
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Look closer, it's 1.21.0. If not you need an update from Play.
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I was using the wrong busybox app from the play store.... haha thanks a bunch
Hi all, I am new to Samsung Galaxy S Advance. I have upgraded to official Jelly Bean 4.1 via kies. I have not rooted / installed custom rom and kernel yet.
Pls let me know some suggestions and tips for keeping my smartphone in a flying condition.
Sanish_advance said:
Hi all, I am new to Samsung Galaxy S Advance. I have upgraded to official Jelly Bean 4.1 via kies. I have not rooted / installed custom rom and kernel yet.
Pls let me know some suggestions and tips for keeping my smartphone in a flying condition.
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Only one way, Don't install unnecessary apps like widgets,battery saver,antivirus softwares. and if possible use custom debloated ROM (caution :it'll void warranty).
I think we can get our warranty back by resetting the binary counter and flashing your country's FW again and unroot.
Thank you
mr.harsh said:
Only one way, Don't install unnecessary apps like widgets,battery saver,antivirus softwares. and if possible use custom debloated ROM (caution :it'll void warranty).
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Thank you Mr. Harsh for your advice. As you said i also agree with you that installing many apps, widgets, antivirus softwares makes smartphone to lag. But what if i want to install more apps and still i can be in a smoother condition?
Case
Sanish_advance said:
Thank you Mr. Harsh for your advice. As you said i also agree with you that installing many apps, widgets, antivirus softwares makes smartphone to lag. But what if i want to install more apps and still i can be in a smoother condition?
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Hi, pls tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? i am unhappy with my present case.
Also let me know if apps is moved to SD Card will it makes working more faster? Dont mind as i am new to android. But i will be eager to update technology always.
Sanish_advance said:
Hi, pls tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? i am unhappy with my present case.
Also let me know if apps is moved to SD Card will it makes working more faster? Dont mind as i am new to android. But i will be eager to update technology always.
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If you're playing games on your phone, moving them to sd will make them lag. Not faster. You can limit background process though for better multitask if you're having lags and not wanting to root.
Hope this helps.
mr.harsh said:
Only one way, Don't install unnecessary apps like widgets,battery saver,antivirus softwares. and if possible use custom debloated ROM (caution :it'll void warranty).
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And i recommend not to install launchers.. especially 3D launchers...they consume huge amt of RAM fir a continous period. which might affect performance of heavy games..
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Sanish_advance said:
Thank you Mr. Harsh for your advice. As you said i also agree with you that installing many apps, widgets, antivirus softwares makes smartphone to lag. But what if i want to install more apps and still i can be in a smoother condition?
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Install debloated stock ROM and custom kernel.
Sanish_advance said:
Hi, pls tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? i am unhappy with my present case.
Also let me know if apps is moved to SD Card will it makes working more faster? Dont mind as i am new to android. But i will be eager to update technology always.
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Moving app to SD card will only increase loading time.It won't give increase performance.
In addition, you can try not to install many chat apps (ie: viber, line, wechat etc..) cause all of this always running in background consuming ram space and battery. Just whatsapp is enough. Well good enough for me though.
Thank you
arffrhn said:
In addition, you can try not to install many chat apps (ie: viber, line, wechat etc..) cause all of this always running in background consuming ram space and battery. Just whatsapp is enough. Well good enough for me though.
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What you say is correct. I have experienced that.
Please can you tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? I am unhappy with present one.
Sanish_advance said:
What you say is correct. I have experienced that.
Please can you tell me where can i get a good case for s advance? I am unhappy with present one.
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Case? I don't know. I always buy at the store in my country.
Thank you
mr.harsh said:
Install debloated stock ROM and custom kernel.
Moving app to SD card will only increase loading time.It won't give increase performance.
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What you said is correct. Thank you for your valuable suggestion.
Please use the thanks button rather than posting it.
mr.harsh said:
Install debloated stock ROM and custom kernel.
Moving app to SD card will only increase loading time.It won't give increase performance.
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But there're no debloated stock roms, only some customs with heavy theming.
Correct me, if I'm mistaken.
or you can root and de-bloat it yoursel, then un-root if you really want to keep it stock only.
Debloat by yourself mean to unninstall the apps that you dont need.
For example, i have only 98 apps from over 160 apps who came stock ROM.
Its only your choice what applications choose to erase from stock.
You have a guide in my signature with debloating ROM safe.
Hii.
..i want to purchase s advance ...is it a gud phone or not....share sum gaming experience wid mee
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mohit.bhagat1 said:
Hii.
..i want to purchase s advance ...is it a gud phone or not....share sum gaming experience wid mee
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the phone is good and a great value for money after the recent price drop...
all games run quite nice with occasional lag and hiccups and thats due to lesser ram in the phone...if you are heavily inclined towards playing high end games i would suggest you to not go for this one buy a phone with atleast 1gb ram...
and one more disadvantage (not for everyone though) is that this phone is not really developer friendly and apple of every developer's eye out there due to chipset...
see for your priorities and make the decision..:good:
Thanks ....Games like temle run ...subway surfer lags or not ????
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mohit.bhagat1 said:
Thanks ....Games like temle run ...subway surfer lags or not ????
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On jellybean with everything stock, it's likely that they will lag.
But dude read! This thread is not for buying advice! You can do enough research about this phone's performance if you would just search the forum.
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