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Rooting will stop official updates?

This may have been asked before, but I couldn't find a proper answer on XDA forums. So here it is:
Will you still be able to download and install official updates in your Note without a hitch even if you've rooted it?
Is voiding the warranty the only problem with rooting?

thameera said:
This may have been asked before, but I couldn't find a proper answer on XDA forums. So here it is:
Will you still be able to download and install official updates in your Note without a hitch even if you've rooted it?
Is voiding the warranty the only problem with rooting?
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yes to your questions. getting it OTA is another matter especially if you installed a custom rom.
and of course, you risk bricking your device once you tinker with it. but if you follow the instructions, especially Dr. Ketan's guide, your chances of success goes up dramatically.

That's a relief. If I don't install a custom rom I'll be able to upgrade OTA, right?
And where can I find this Dr Ketan's guide?

thameera said:
That's a relief. If I don't install a custom rom I'll be able to upgrade OTA, right?
And where can I find this Dr Ketan's guide?
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You can find it here.

thameera said:
This may have been asked before, but I couldn't find a proper answer on XDA forums. So here it is:
Will you still be able to download and install official updates in your Note without a hitch even if you've rooted it?
Is voiding the warranty the only problem with rooting?
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Of course you will get OTA / Kies update after Root, but again bad part is that, you will lose Root after OTA/Kies. So If you want to keep your Root intact, you should not update it with OTA/Kies but you can just use as Notice, when you get notice about new update, find it over XDA (this thread is for stock ROMs) n update it using Mobile Odin/ CWM
Chasmodo have shown you exact thread for rooting guide in detail, here ofline guide i have made too, download it from last link on my signature.
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praetorius said:
but if you follow the instructions, especially Dr. Ketan's guide, your chances of success goes up dramatically.
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Thanx for compliments

Thanks a lot, everyone! Hoping to root the Note as soon as I get a time!

dr.ketan said:
Of course you will get OTA / Kies update after Root, but again bad part is that, you will lose Root after OTA/Kies. ...
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So, in case of the OTA update a rooted device will get "unrooted", right? Will that leave the phone in the same state as it would have been in if the rooting never happened, i.e. if you were just doing the OTA updates only all along?..

Yes it will lead to state of unrooted, M not sure but it may leave superuser application icon on drawer(non functioning). If it remains you have to Flash ROM with PC Odin to get rid of this.

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Yes it will lead to state of unrooted, M not sure but it may leave superuser application icon on drawer(non functioning). If it remains you have to Flash ROM with PC Odin to get rid of this.
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Alright, and after that is done, will that leave the phone in the same state as it would have been in if the rooting never happened, i.e. if you were just doing the OTA updates only all along?..

Can anybody please answer this? Thanks.

voxano said:
Alright, and after that is done, will that leave the phone in the same state as it would have been in if the rooting never happened, i.e. if you were just doing the OTA updates only all along?..
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I think yes, only not sure about the "flash counter" that I've heard on these forums. It may be an indicator of you voiding your warranty.
EDIT: got my self interested, did a quick search and found more info on this thread. After doing the update and going into download mode you should be able to see if your flash counter is alright

i have root with zerg rush exploit
did ota update and still have root.

gabyteodor said:
i have root with zerg rush exploit
did ota update and still have root.
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I think some OTA updates leave the rooting intact and one has to specifically "unroot".

OrangGeeGee said:
I think yes, only not sure about the "flash counter" that I've heard on these forums. It may be an indicator of you voiding your warranty.
EDIT: got my self interested, did a quick search and found more info on this thread. After doing the update and going into download mode you should be able to see if your flash counter is alright
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Thanks. So I guess things will be the same if one flashes back the original ROM and resets the binary flash counter. Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

Flash counter raise when you flash custom rom with pc Odin.
Reflash stick rom won't reset it, u need 'jig' to reset it.
Ics support a sw which reset counter without jig.
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dr.ketan said:
Flash counter raise when you flash custom rom with pc Odin.
Reflash stick rom won't reset it, u need 'jig' to reset it.
Ics support a sw which reset counter without jig.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Doesn't TriangleAway work here?

praetorius said:
getting it OTA is another matter
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Ahh no wonder... I am on N7000OZSKK1 and was notified about a 70~mb update both OTA and via Kies to N7000OZSLA2 but no matter what I did it would cause an error during updating. I guess I'll just wait for a "rootable" update (and plus I can't seem to find a changelog either...)

[Q] How to Root without changing anything?

Title says it all.
I'd like to root my galaxy note to remove bloatware as well as to install root only apps. How do i do that while keeping my stock ROM? Is there a way to root without having to install a different ROM?
Appreciate anyone's help with this.

depends on what stock rom version you are running

Thank you for your reply.
Would this picture help identifying which ROM I'm using?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
scroll down until you hit: I have Kernel KK1/KK2/KK3/KK4/KK5 - Download This - and Extract that's for root+cwm.
if you only want root, then use zergrush method
Inspired from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1319653
DooMLoRD_v4_ROOT-zergRush-busybox-su
it's all on that thread, first post.

Thank you so much!
Before doing this i have some noob questions please.
Will i be able to unroot in a later date while still keeping the same stock ROM? Also, does unrooting puts the phone back under warranty or once rooted the warranty is voided permanently?

You can regain warranty by putting back Stock ROM anytime (you have to just flash Stock ROM with PC Odin)

dr.ketan said:
You can regain warranty by putting back Stock ROM anytime (you have to just flash Stock ROM with PC Odin)
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Great! I just finished rooting. How can i save my stock ROM to flash it back in need? Or is it available somewhere and i just need to download it? I'm asking because i checked the thread with the stock ROMs and the one for my country isn't included there. Maybe if i know how o can help the community by posting it in that thread? Thank you!

reboot into cwm recovery, and do a nandroid backup. Dr. Ketan's thread says it all, really

praetorius said:
reboot into cwm recovery, and do a nandroid backup. Dr. Ketan's thread says it all, really
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Checked Dr. Ketan's thread. it has great info and a lot of helpful things but I couldn't find how to backup the complete phone to regain warranty by restoring when needed. maybe I overlooked it?
does a nandroid backup saves the kernel and modem and everything? or just the ROM?
sorry, noob here, who knows, maybe one day i'll be developing and adding some value to this community
Thank you guys for the help! very much appreciated!

dr.ketan said:
You can regain warranty by putting back Stock ROM anytime (you have to just flash Stock ROM with PC Odin)
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Not quite, as most flash methods would increase the binary counter.
Re-flashing a stock kernel would only get rid of the yellow triangle.
There are ways to reset the binary counter, but he would need to make sure that his binary is at 0 (NO) to be 100% sure he will get warranty service

guitarplayerone said:
Not quite, as most flash methods would increase the binary counter.
Re-flashing a stock kernel would only get rid of the yellow triangle.
There are ways to reset the binary counter, but he would need to make sure that his binary is at 0 (NO) to be 100% sure he will get warranty service
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My answer was in reply to warranty back for rooted device, not raised counter.
N correct first line not most of method raise count. It is-
Any custom rom/kernel if flashed with pc odin that only raise counter.
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To get warranty just flash back to a stock ROM it.wont raise the flashing count because it's an official rom
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question is: how do i get back my stock ROM as i don't see it in the stock ROMs thread. I'm located in Morocco and using Meditel Galaxy Note. That's why i asked about how i can make a full backup of my ROM, kernel, baseband and everything to flash them when i need to regain warranty services.
Thank you guys!

try check fus Downloader
it has most of the KIES firmware available.
using it mainly since my first Galaxy S when i'm too lazy to hunt for custom roms and want to stay able to update with KIES

Amrael said:
try check fus Downloader
it has most of the KIES firmware available.
using it mainly since my first Galaxy S when i'm too lazy to hunt for custom roms and want to stay able to update with KIES
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Thank you for this but it doesn't have my software either.
anyone's help on how to do a full backup of EVERYTHING including the ROM, the baseband and the kernel... would be very helpful.
Thank you!

moyajaya said:
Thank you for this but it doesn't have my software either.
anyone's help on how to do a full backup of EVERYTHING including the ROM, the baseband and the kernel... would be very helpful.
Thank you!
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You can do it after getting root only, get root + CWM
Then with cwm you can backup.
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dr.ketan said:
You can do it after getting root only, get root + CWM
Then with cwm you can backup.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Thank you! I'm already rooted. will get CWM now.

dr.ketan said:
My answer was in reply to warranty back for rooted device, not raised counter.
N correct first line not most of method raise count. It is-
Any custom rom/kernel if flashed with pc odin that only raise counter.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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My apologies- I just wanted to point that out.
Furthermore, of course flashing a stock kernel would not raise the counter and get rid of the yellow triangle, but if they hypothetically checked the binary counter and it was not at NO, then they could refuse warranty coverage for service AFAIK. Re-flashing a stock kernel will not reset the binary counter if it is above 0

I am not disagree, you are right. raised counter will not solved by flashing stock rom. That needs jig i know.
But i want to convey that your reply to my quote was misleading.
Actually someone have asked me, does unrooting can regain waranty? Or rooting voids my warranty permanently?
For that i said just reflashing stock rom will unroot n warranty will b regained.
That case there was not a question of raised counter.
Regards.
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Warranty Question: What happens if I reset my binary count?

If I flash the binary count re-setter, would they still know? Is there a way to hide my activities on my phone?

use triangle away and unroot your phone and flash it back to stock GB.
How can you hide your activities? factory reset/wipe it (on stock GB). Simple!

letters_to_cleo said:
use triangle away and unroot your phone and flash it back to stock GB.
How can you hide your activities? factory reset/wipe it (on stock GB). Simple!
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This ^^

Eversmile said:
If I flash the binary count re-setter, would they still know? Is there a way to hide my activities on my phone?
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Why do you want to rest the counter. Have you bricked your phone & require to claim warranty. It is not advisable to reset the counters as a general practice.

[Q] Root : yellox triangle?

Hi,
I would like to do root of my GN on ICS Version LRT
Only to get superuser and no flash of the kernel
Does the way describe as 1B in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360 topic is the wright way?
And does this avoid yellow triangle? or if it is how put it away
Thank you for your answer,
And thank you for all the good job done here
Xvx

xvx.post said:
Hi,
I would like to do root of my GN on ICS Version LRT
Only to get superuser and no flash of the kernel
Does the way describe as 1B in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360 topic is the wright way?
And does this avoid yellow triangle? or if it is how put it away
Thank you for your answer,
And thank you for all the good job done here
Xvx
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method 1B will root your phone without yellow triangle, so no worries regarding removing it
Edit- and yes it is the right way for just rooting as it does not change your kernel, it will only root.

jeetu1981 said:
method 1B will root your phone without yellow triangle, so no worries regarding removing it
Edit- and yes it is the right way for just rooting as it does not change your kernel, it will only root.
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Thank you for your prompt anwser.
So I will do as soon I have time enought.
Regards

Best go for Philz-cwm6 it will not cause increase in binary count and no triangle and it is full safe kernel

What are you putting in your phone Odin or CWM roms?

Some of you already have the Note 4 and probably some of you also are afraid to trigger the knox counter, so I'm curious about people will do while the phone has warranty.
Are you going to flash odin roms only or you will flash cwm roms?
give your comments

MyPeople said:
Some of you already have the Note 4 and probably some of you also are afraid to trigger the knox counter, so I'm curious about people will do while the phone has warranty.
Are you going to flash odin roms only or you will flash cwm roms?
give your comments
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Both will flag Knox So :silly:

No odin does not trigger knox

altini said:
No odin does not trigger knox
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Using odin to flash a custom rom / recovery / kernel / root will trigger knox

I can see what you trying to say but as long as you fluch official tar with odin knox is fine

So nobody wants to flash custom roms yet?
Is knox killing slowly the custom rom scene?

MyPeople said:
So nobody wants to flash custom roms yet?
Is knox killing slowly the custom rom scene?
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FK knox , sorry for the language ... :laugh: Who cares i have rooted with custom recovery and a custom rom.

MyPeople said:
Some of you already have the Note 4 and probably some of you also are afraid to trigger the knox counter, so I'm curious about people will do while the phone has warranty.
Are you going to flash odin roms only or you will flash cwm roms?
give your comments
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TWRP for the win FTW:good:

Pretty sure if u flash another countrys rom it triggers knox i read that earlier somewhere here

vinumsv said:
Using odin to flash a custom rom / recovery / kernel / root will trigger knox
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Correct (All due to "custom")
altini said:
I can see what you trying to say but as long as you fluch official tar with odin knox is fine
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And correct as well.
There are some variables to this now but in general if you don't touch the stock recovery and flash an official tar, you are ok... Not sure about completely different variants though. You'll just brick your device and if you find ones that work all you will change is the included bloatware.
So I have to ask - What is the point?
Sent from my *ROOTED* Note 4 SM-N910W8