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Ok so this is my first post here, and I'm sort of a noob so I'm sorry if these questions are too noobish...
First, I rooted my HTC hero last night, but I tried to install the rom (fresh 2.3.3) before wiping so I got stuck in this perpetual loop of the startup screen, had to wait until the phone ran out of battery and then did a wipe of data/ext and rebooted. Everything worked fine from there, and it seems to be working normally, BUT I'm wondering if this means everything installed correctly, or if I should just go through the process again.
Second, when I connect my phone to the computer I notice that I have the .zip of the image still in my phone's root. Can I delete this or is it necessary for the phone's function?
Third, are there any other roms people would suggest? I like vanilla android (not a sense fan), and I heard of a rom called Darchdroid. I was wondering how this stacks up to fresh 2.3.3...I'm looking for the smoothest experience possible (not a fan of the minor lag that happens in fresh)
And fourth, if I decide I want to get rid of Fresh and try a new rom, what is the procedure for wiping my phone clean and installing the new rom? (sorta noobish I know...)
Dr. Falken said:
Ok so this is my first post here, and I'm sort of a noob so I'm sorry if these questions are too noobish...
First, I rooted my HTC hero last night, but I tried to install the rom (fresh 2.3.3) before wiping so I got stuck in this perpetual loop of the startup screen, had to wait until the phone ran out of battery and then did a wipe of data/ext and rebooted. Everything worked fine from there, and it seems to be working normally, BUT I'm wondering if this means everything installed correctly, or if I should just go through the process again.
Second, when I connect my phone to the computer I notice that I have the .zip of the image still in my phone's root. Can I delete this or is it necessary for the phone's function?
Third, are there any other roms people would suggest? I like vanilla android (not a sense fan), and I heard of a rom called Darchdroid. I was wondering how this stacks up to fresh 2.3.3...I'm looking for the smoothest experience possible (not a fan of the minor lag that happens in fresh)
And fourth, if I decide I want to get rid of Fresh and try a new rom, what is the procedure for wiping my phone clean and installing the new rom? (sorta noobish I know...)
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a bit noobish myself, but I think I can answer a bit regardless, anyone feel free to correct me...
1: if everything is working, great! if you dont feel comfortable, and dont mind resetting everything up, go ahead, do it again, cant hurt. whenever reflashing/new flashing, Dont Forget to make a nandroid and wipe! (and you can rename the backups in USB disk mode so you know which ones are what, otherwise go by the embedded date in the autogen'd title. in the nandroid folder on your SD card btw)
2: as far as I know, leave it?
3: HUGE fan of Darchs work, cant go wrong... keep in mind it does not have VisVoicemail in it, fix flash needed.
4: reboot into recovery, make a nadroid backup, WIPE!, flash the new one according to cookers intructions! done! (if ya dont like it, buggy, nandroid restore back to your last good one you did like!)
well I reinstalled the rom and wiped first...and everything is running way smoother than last time. I don't know what in the world happened or what was going on but I'll take it as it is
Hey all. Just joined the forums a few minutes ago and I have a burning question on why it is necessary to flash back to stock with odin before you try different roms. Why can you not just boot into clockwork, factory wipe, wipe cache, wipe d cache and then simply load the new rom from sd? The reason I ask is because I have been bouncing between cognition and paragon for about 2 weeks now NOT using the method of flashing back to stock 2.1 without a single problem. I'm sure there is a good reason flashing back to 2.1 before trying new roms, I would just like to know why. I was able to preform a stock wipe using odin3 one time last week (just did it to make sure the phone would do it) it just seems like a really long process, but I'll start doing it that way to avoid a brick.
Thanks
to be safe, and some roms mod files that others dont, some roms depend on apps and files in the stock rom that might be different or not there at all in other roms.
long process? extra 5 minutes when you get used to it. if you are ATT use ODIN ONE CLICK to restore stock 2.1 (hint: it takes one click)
For the most part, you don't really need to flash back to stock. It used to be a bigger deal to flash back to stock because some of the Roms would intervene with each other and mess things up. It is still recommened for a clean flash, but I rarely do it and my flashes work great.
EDIT: @Trusselo: damn it! Second time someone beat me to the answer tonight!
HAHA
and forget ODIN ONE CLICK !!
i keep forgetting about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944418
ALL IN ONE CAPTIVATE TOOLBOX
I have been trying roms weekly since November and have only needed to flash to stock twice, after failed flashes caused by my lack of patience. YMMV of course
jayjr1105 said:
Hey all. Just joined the forums a few minutes ago and I have a burning question on why it is necessary to flash back to stock with odin before you try different roms. Why can you not just boot into clockwork, factory wipe, wipe cache, wipe d cache and then simply load the new rom from sd?
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It's not necessary and not even a good idea. Also, why wipe cache and d-cache when the install script does that?
Trusselo said:
to be safe, and some roms mod files that others dont, some roms depend on apps and files in the stock rom that might be different or not there at all in other roms.
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ROMs don't mod or use any files which are on the phone prior to installing them. All the files on your phone after the install were in the CWM flashable zip file. Any ROM cook would be stupid to do otherwise. The exception would be no-wipe ROMs, but you would never flash to stock before using one of those.
Ive also wondered this as well and talking to guys like opcow, and a couple other Devs such as MikeyMike and a lot of guys at the Andromeda IRC they all agree that you should be perfectly fine now as long as you wipe everything before you flash.
I may try with Andromeda when I get home because I have my PC and Jig there just in case but still may try now. But also tlaking to a lot of users that they dont even do it anymore now because of the install scripts and as Opcow said if you think logically its technically safer.
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long process? extra 5 minutes when you get used to it. if you are ATT use ODIN ONE CLICK to restore stock 2.1 (hint: it takes one click)
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Actually thats not true at all.
If your a build 1009 and under you can use the one click. Although the build 1008 sometimes have problems.
But for the Build 1010's and up (like me) you have to use Odin3 and take a good 30-40 minutes just to get to JH7 because half of the time I lose my 3 buttons then have to push the 3 button fix over via ADB. I have gotten use it and its a pain in the ass.
And the time I listened to someone that says ALL ATT people can use the one click it completely ****ed my phone and if I didnt have a jig my phone would have been completely screwed up.
Im not trying to be rude im just saying I saw a post very similar to that a couple weeks ago and it came very close to completely bricking my phone and reading posts here now saying they have the same problem and if they dont have a jig they just got a 200 dollar paper weight.
Sorry for getting off topic back to topic today Im going to flash Andromeda over Darkyy 9.3 and wipe data cache and d cache in CWM and see how it goes although everyone and even the devs and a lot of users now a days say it should work perfectly.
Dlev7 said:
Actually thats not true at all.
If your a build 1009 and under you can use the one click. Although the build 1008 sometimes have problems.
But for the Build 1010's and up (like me) you have to use Odin3 and take a good 30-40 minutes just to get to JH7 because half of the time I lose my 3 buttons then have to push the 3 button fix over via ADB. I have gotten use it and its a pain in the ass.
And the time I listened to someone that says ALL ATT people can use the one click it completely ****ed my phone and if I didnt have a jig my phone would have been completely screwed up.
Im not trying to be rude im just saying I saw a post very similar to that a couple weeks ago and it came very close to completely bricking my phone and reading posts here now saying they have the same problem and if they dont have a jig they just got a 200 dollar paper weight.
Sorry for getting off topic back to topic today Im going to flash Andromeda over Darkyy 9.3 and wipe data cache and d cache in CWM and see how it goes although everyone and even the devs and a lot of users now a days say it should work perfectly.
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+1 Guys if you don't know exactly what to do/suggest please don't say it. I'm not trying to start a war, but a wrong suggestion can easily soft or hard brick someones phone. This is a forum, so no one can stop you from saying things, but think about if it happened to you? You would be pissed!
Anyways back on topic, what model phone do you have, because having a 1009 model phone makes flashing and going back to stock (usually) so much easier. But then again, I rarely use odin because all the roms are compatible for the most part.
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I've never used ODIN because I haven't wanted to try to run it from GNU/Linux in a virtual box.
I just wipe and flash from clockwork like the op. Been flashing roms for a couple months now, never had a single problem. (except when I noobed it up by trying to flash back to a nandroid backup via Rom Manager. Even then, didn't need Odin to sort it out).
If I ever run into a problem, then I'll try Odin, but I'm waiting to cross that bridge till I come to it.
To prevent exceptions or troubles from the version you already have... so everybody comes from the same rom, understand?
I flash to jf6 because that's what I have been conditioned to do for a while. However, the few times I was impatient and didn't....no problems either.
From all the reading I've done here, the only reason to do it is for the placebo effect.
There was once a time when all the new roms were built on the unofficial froyo and it only had 3e recovery. The quickest way to get around that was to flash stock. Also the lag fixes were tricky and easily fixed by flashing stock. Now recovery is in the kernel. As long as you insure the kernal lag fix in rom A understands the kernal lag fix in rom B flash away. Nandroid backups are kind of useless they don't backup the kernal or the modem. Save odin for when things go really wrong(;~ )
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I have done it both ways, and there its no difference going back to stock and or flashing over other roms. I flash often, have not got stick in boot loop in months
I like to go back to stock since I KNOW that everything has been defaulted back to normal. Just a security blanket step for me.
I flashed andromeda over darkyy 9.3 just wiping data cache and d cache. Nothing wrong. Everything worked perfect so I got to believe that if you just wipe everything it should work perfectly.
Just for safety I got a jig and odin but for now I'm saving a good 45 minutes to not flash back to stock
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I was wondering how perfect of a restore a CWM restore is.
I was running a custom GB ROM (rocket rom to be exact) and it was running flawlessly. I then decided I might try this new CM9 ICS ROM.
So to be sure about the CM9 install, I figure I'd install from a stock GB Rom. So I first did a CWM backup of my current rocket rom and then I restored an older stock (rooted) ROM. It seemed to work fine. Then.... after reading about the (few) issues wit this new CM9 rom I decided I'd wait a bit longer until a few more of the quirks are worked out.
So I then restored back my Rocket rom backup and even doing the flash cache and davik cache also. But now I notice my once working Rocket ROM is experiencing a lot of SODs.
So now I'm wondering how perfect my restore was. I really don't have a lot of apps or wireless networks and can easily restore my contact list. For that reason, do you think it'll help if I do a factory reset wipe and then reinstall everytyhing....or even go so far as reinstall rocket rom and then reinstall everything else manually without any restores...would that be really the best clean install....or would any of this not make a difference at all and wiping/reinstall a toatl waste of time and my prob is actuaully something else....
Thanks
I could do with knowing the answer to these questions too.
It would be good to get a detailed idiots guide to CWM, do's and don't's etc.
Well a clean install will surely get you rid of the SODs. There is some app and its data that is conflicting with the system and crashes the whole phone. So if you are ready to clean install everything that will fix everything
abhisahara said:
Well a clean install will surely get you rid of the SODs. There is some app and its data that is conflicting with the system and crashes the whole phone. So if you are ready to clean install everything that will fix everything
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Sorry for the noob question.... what are SOD's?
adrok76 said:
Sorry for the noob question.... what are SOD's?
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sleep of death, its the device not waking up properly from sleep
Pus it doesnt include efs, so its not complete backup. Handy if yu stay n same rom version, but thats likely not.
Squicky clean install is always best. Even only app and data recovering thought titanium can mess things up. Make it laggy and nonfunctional etc, Blegh
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1. Install abyssnote42
2. Factory wipe, cache, dalvik
3. Restore your rocketrom backup
That's what i do with my rocketrom v23 backup
Zapped through server hops to XDA forums
its not perfect but its the best so far
all i can say is that cwm is the best and simple thing for me so far and if u get trouble some times while trying to shift from CM9 to normal ics or from gb to ics all I suggest is use redpill recovery from abbysnote
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sleep of death, its the device not waking up properly from sleep
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Yeah, mine does that from the clock on Dragon ICS 2.4 when charging it didn't use to, started since I started Dual Booting. 2.5 is out in the next hour or so according to the Dev page. Hope it fixes an otherwise awesome ROM.. Otherwise it's back to single booting and possibly on to Omega 12 until CheckROM is released..
Hi,
I am really confused, yesterday I flash Alba LQ2 rom latest full with no problems.
I like ICS its very good but slight problems occurred today.
This all happened during my travels to London in the train.
so I noticed my note did not go to deep sleep, so read in the forums to put on flight mode, turn off phone. take out batteries for a few mins(in my case 5 mins), put it back in turn on phone and turn off flight mode.
I did that but when I attempted to turn on the phone it just stayed on the samsung logo flashing white and blue for 20 minutes. I restarted it and the same thing.
As this happened in the train i panicked. I went to CWM with no problems and tried to flash the same rom again without clearing any data or cache and so on.
the following came up:
CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.7
-- Installing: /emmc/AlBa_XXLQ2_Full.zip
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Installing update...
AlBa XXLQ2 Full
and the bar where it shows it working stayed empty for 15 or so minutes, so i got annoyed and tried it again, went back to cwm without a problem did the same and the same thing popped up. I've kept it till now and it is still the same for the past 1 hour and 20 or so minutes.
I don't want ICS anymore, I just want to go back to GB right now. Have I bricked my note? if not, can anyone guide me to get back to GB if possible.
Thanks in advance.
oh and my phone was not overheating whatsoever. it seems cool till now.
assuming no one has replied, just to say, ive sorted it out, i restored to a rooted gb rom via pc odin and then wiped data. and now its fine, may give paranoidandroid a shot.
You may have to give your flashing hobby a breather for now.. .you just came from a nearly brick experience and now you want to try to flash another ROM again?
Sooner or later, you may encounter that infamous HARD BRICK BUG that people are saying all over the Galaxy's Note's thread..
Just caveat in flashing or changing ROM always...
you never know what your gonna get until you will finally get it....
Cheers!.
From what I gather so far, you were smart enough to not wipe data or anything so you were not bricked at all with the eMMc bug and you knew what to do on your own (probably by reading the forums) which I would say I am proud of you for.
You did correctly by flashing to Gingerbread. Now, you want to try ParanoidAndroid (I must say it is fantastic). It's based on CM9 so it's easy. Since you are on GB, make sure you are rooted. Flash the CWM.zip file (in drketan's thread). Then, flash ParanoidAndroid. Wipe cache, dalvik cache, and data. Reboot. Enjoy awesome hybrid settings.
thanks both of you. oh my, i must paranoidandroid is really good, never thought i could witness so much from a community built rom.
yh I didn't wipe data when i was at ics, i knew the phone will die if I did. anyhow thanks.
@letters_to_cleo, i guess your right, ill stop flashing for a while.
the reason i do this, its just because I have some knowledge on the linux world coming from n900 maemo and so on its all good fun and interesting to see how open android really is.
If you read the OP and stickies, you will be fine. So, continue flashing! It's fun when you follow the rules given.
Hello guys, my problem is as follows. The other night I was about to try a different ROM than the one I was on. So like always I said let me back up my ROM. I was on a recent cyanogen nightly. Maybe about a week old. So I make a back up and hit reboot. But it won't reboot. I go in to recovery to use backup that I no just said completed successful but its not there. Actually nothing is there from old ROM. So I say OK. I will just try to restore an old stock type rom I had. Well it restored but the camera kept unfortunately stopping. So I said fine. I will wipe and use same ROM but start like new. When I did that the camera still crashed and I had no sound.. Crazy...tried latest nightly and it got to part saying starting apps but never booted... Any help would be great. Had to go back to one plus one for now..
edshawn911 said:
Hello guys, my problem is as follows. The other night I was about to try a different ROM than the one I was on. So like always I said let me back up my ROM. I was on a recent cyanogen nightly. Maybe about a week old. So I make a back up and hit reboot. But it won't reboot. I go in to recovery to use backup that I no just said completed successful but its not there. Actually nothing is there from old ROM. So I say OK. I will just try to restore an old stock type rom I had. Well it restored but the camera kept unfortunately stopping. So I said fine. I will wipe and use same ROM but start like new. When I did that the camera still crashed and I had no sound.. Crazy...tried latest nightly and it got to part saying starting apps but never booted... Any help would be great. Had to go back to one plus one for now..
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i remeber there was a problem similar, when update from 20i to 20o using OTA.
camera and no sound problem.. if you did take the the ota to 20o i recomend to do a clean install using 20o KDZ LGUP using refurbished option..