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I have my HTC Vivid rooted and on HoliRaider v1.6. I really wanted to use the rom Rum Float Beta, which is ics. I tried to find the steps for updating to this but i get kinda confused... If anyone could help me that would be great!
Taken from a similar thread...........
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
The thing that is getting me is how I have to Lock the bootloader again. Do I just lock it through the htc unlock tool? How do I " run PH39IMG install"? After, do i follow the same steps that i did before to root my phone?
To relock bootloader:
fastboot oem lock
To Unlock bootloader:
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
The PH39IMG file needs to be on the root of your SD card. Boot into hboot and it will automatically find the the PH39IMG file and update. I hope this helps. Like you said it's almost exact same steps you did to root assuming you didn't use the supertool or one click method.
Kent Melton said:
The thing that is getting me is how I have to Lock the bootloader again. Do I just lock it through the htc unlock tool? How do I " run PH39IMG install"? After, do i follow the same steps that i did before to root my phone?
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Fastboot OEM lock. This is done from the fastboot screen. This is covered in the superguide and mentioned several times throughout these forums.
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strose after putting the ruu on a stock vivid, which boot.img file are you going to look for and recovery img file? this is where i get a little confused?
strose09 said:
Taken from a similar thread...........
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
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I got the recovery I needed following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23238449&postcount=9
alright so after i get the two files that i need i just follow the instructions above starting with locking bootloader?
strose09 said:
I got the recovery I needed following this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23238449&postcount=9
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Before you start are you savvy with fastboot commands? I'm confident you can do this but just read read read. I'll answer your questions as best as I can. I"m not a dev or anything but I was able to do this following the steps created by PG and Thecubed.
i've tip toed around with it. Back when i had my evo 4g. I'm pretty familiar with the commands and stuff. i think i got a pretty good idea with the superguide also. after the getting the img file on and cwm i'm decent at the whole flash thing. If i can just get past that point i think im good.
strose09 said:
Before you start are you savvy with fastboot commands? I'm confident you can do this but just read read read. I'll answer your questions as best as I can. I"m not a dev or anything but I was able to do this following the steps created by PG and Thecubed.
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Yes keep the superguide thread open as well. It's a great resource to have while you are doing this. The steps are nearly the same just have to update the HBOOT first. Good luck! I look forward to seeing you post having a successful install.
So I just got my replacement vivid..still locked and everything..how do I update with the ruu?
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Connect phone to pc, open .exe and run it.
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Thank u got it going and thank god cuz now pg it seems has left the building...
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If we flash the RUU, do we need to relock the bootloader first or just run the RUU? Running stock rooted
EDIT: Nvm I found my answer. Still unable to find the RUU. Anyone have a mirror to the RUU?
Apatche69 said:
If we flash the RUU, do we need to relock the bootloader first or just run the RUU? Running stock rooted
EDIT: Nvm I found my answer. Still unable to find the RUU. Anyone have a mirror to the RUU?
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Here you go
Thank you very much. I'll look forward to ICS.
ok so the s off works now! so you can use this thread to talk about it. but i do have a question....
so now that we have s-off. how do you flash kernels? and recoveries? do we kust install the rom folder withought flashing the kernel that is inside the rom folder?
Marshmellow92 said:
ok so the s off works now! so you can use this thread to talk about it. but i do have a question....
so now that we have s-off. how do you flash kernels? and recoveries? do we kust install the rom folder withought flashing the kernel that is inside the rom folder?
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I believe you still have to flash the kernel separate from the rom. The only difference now would be instead of fastboot flashing the kernel you flash it through recovery.
megatronisabeast said:
I believe you still have to flash the kernel separate from the rom. The only difference now would be instead of fastboot flashing the kernel you flash it through recovery.
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And how would I do that
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I wouldn't try anything like that yet. Wait for the dev's to set everything up. That is what I did on another phone. HTC is a bit different, may be you flash only the zip file containing the rom and kernel. I do believe that on HTC most phones do allow you to flash one file instead of having to flash separate files unless you wanted a different kernel then the one provided. You would do this in recovery by flashing a zip file.
megatronisabeast said:
I wouldn't try anything like that yet. Wait for the dev's to set everything up. That is what I did on another phone. HTC is a bit different, may be you flash only the zip file containing the rom and kernel. I do believe that on HTC most phones do allow you to flash one file instead of having to flash separate files unless you wanted a different kernel then the one provided. You would do this in recovery by flashing a zip file.
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With my Inspire, I could flash a kernel alone, an entire ROMs image files separately, or an entire package containing everything in one flash...all through recovery.
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slapdaddy said:
With my Inspire, I could flash a kernel alone, an entire ROMs image files separately, or an entire package containing everything in one flash...all through recovery.
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So if there is a Rom with a kernel (boot.IMG) inside it we just go to recovery install zip and I'm good? That's all there is too it
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Marshmellow92 said:
So if there is a Rom with a kernel (boot.IMG) inside it we just go to recovery install zip and I'm good? That's all there is too it
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nope we need to add in the code of the updater-script. I would say better stay off until we have atleast one rom with the in-built kernel flashing.
i ran controlbear.exe and it booted thru hboot fastboot usb and im on my rom its still asking "waiting device" i cant even get to the wire trick....... im on freenode but the devs are out im lost hopefully xda can help me
EDIT: my bad while on fastboot usb through Hboot, I started Controlbear.exe i ran as admin CMD opens it says the title and then starting up..... waiting device....
when i flash the boot.img first i get stuck with the JuopunutBear, green arrow, and phone.... with CMD stuck on waiting device
when i reflash my roms boot.img i run ControlBear.exe only to have the same msg on CMD waiting device but my rom boots up normal....
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i ran controlbear.exe and it booted thru hboot fastboot usb and im on my rom its still asking "waiting device" i cant even get to the wire trick....... im on freenode but the devs are out im lost hopefully xda can help me
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This makes no sense at all. If you're in Android OS, something went wrong.
I gave up trying to S-off today I'm super disappointed haha but I know its my fault on something
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attempted again but this time on my laptop and success on the second try!!!! i was previously using a windows XP and my laptop is a windows 7!
i'm success to S-OFF my 4G raider LTE (x710e) at the first time a try it few hours ago . everythings seems good. before S-OFF, i'm running on Holiraider Final cooked by Bananacakes, now after S-OFF, i'm little bit confused. stay with Hoilraider FInal ( this ROM excellent), or try some ICS ?.
if i decided to try ICS ROM, what should i do first? ['m already have WCXs recovery installed. do i need to run Ginger Official RUU, than Run ICS Official RUU before installed Custom ICS ROM? or i can jump over the step and Flash CUstom ICS ROM + kernel without flash RUU?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612685
[Guide] ICS for All htc holiday
This might help
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prahasta said:
i'm success to S-OFF my 4G raider LTE (x710e) at the first time a try it few hours ago . everythings seems good. before S-OFF, i'm running on Holiraider Final cooked by Bananacakes, now after S-OFF, i'm little bit confused. stay with Hoilraider FInal ( this ROM excellent), or try some ICS ?.
if i decided to try ICS ROM, what should i do first? ['m already have WCXs recovery installed. do i need to run Ginger Official RUU, than Run ICS Official RUU before installed Custom ICS ROM? or i can jump over the step and Flash CUstom ICS ROM + kernel without flash RUU?
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Easiest way is to supercid, then you can run the RUU or even just flash the Rom.zip. either will work (I did the latter since I use linux.) Then you can use any Rom. Ics needs the hboot update from the ruu
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ENvisiNKeD said:
attempted again but this time on my laptop and success on the second try!!!! i was previously using a windows XP and my laptop is a windows 7!
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When you finally got it to work did it take you to the screen with the green arrow w/o flashing the boot.img?
citsong said:
When you finally got it to work did it take you to the screen with the green arrow w/o flashing the boot.img?
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Yes it did and all I did was extract the controlbear.zip in my data folder that is used for the Vivid All In One toolkit so fastboot and adb everything is in the same directory ... Ran the .exe and everything went thru first attempt I missed the timing on the first but second I used a video I saw for another phone doing the wire trick but the timing they did definitely worked well...
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ENvisiNKeD said:
Yes it did and all I did was extract the controlbear.zip in my data folder that is used for the Vivid All In One toolkit so fastboot and adb everything is in the same directory ... Ran the .exe and everything went thru first attempt I missed the timing on the first but second I used a video I saw for another phone doing the wire trick but the timing they did definitely worked well...
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That might have been my problem.. not having it in a folder like that. Managed to get it working though.
kevsthabest said:
Easiest way is to supercid, then you can run the RUU or even just flash the Rom.zip. either will work (I did the latter since I use linux.) Then you can use any Rom. Ics needs the hboot update from the ruu
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So, I still need to flash ics ruu, which mean I must flash ginger ruu from att. Since there is no official ruu yet for raider 4g. Do I Vitter kev?
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prahasta said:
So, I still need to flash ics ruu, which mean I must flash ginger ruu from att. Since there is no official ruu yet for raider 4g. Do I Vitter kev?
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Just follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612685
Once you've got recovery installed and your rooted you can install any of the ICS roms. Some of them have already been updated so you don't have to flash the kernal anymore since we have s-off. Just make sure to check the instructions for the individual roms to see if you have to or not
I didn't run any ruu. Didn't relock my bootloader nothing like that. The simplest and least likely way of messing anything up I found was extract the ruu for ics. There will be a zip.called Rom.zip. I removed the hboot update itself (we don't need that one) from the zip. Then I.did fastboot reboot OEM-42. Fastboot flash zip Rom.zip.
Took a few minutes to flash. Rebooted and everything was working. The hboot I have is already higher (the one they included with juoponutbear) then the is update. But you need to get the new firmware from the ruu fo be flashed still.
Follow the guide previously posted and you should be fine tho. I just used a slightly different method to do.it myself
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Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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mg2195 said:
Getting ready to root my phone and flash a Rom in the couple of days...just wanna be sure I know everything before I go for it...this is my second android...my first being the infuse which did not require bootloader to be unlocked or this s off thing....
I'm just curious what s off does for the phone...Im pretty sure the unlocked bootloader just allows the phone to boot unsigned roms and stuff (correct me if I'm wrong) but I've never heard of s off...what is it ...what does it do?
Once I get more comfortable with this phone...I may begin to develop for it...
Thanks for any help with my question...any and all information you may think is useful is also appreciated...anything...I'm brand new to this phone and to HTC/sense
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S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc
homeslice976 said:
S-off is security off. It allows you to write to partitions you aren't able to write to with just an unlocked bootloader. This was important for users who didn't get an official ICS update from their carrier. Without an official update, they didn't have an ICS HBoot and couldn't run ICS ROMs. With s-off, you can flash custom/unsigned HBoot so ICS is available for those users. That's s-off's main purpose for this device, but has a bunch of other uses. However, s-off is not necessary unless you want ICS and don't have an official update from your carrier. You can also flash radios, splash screens, boot.img from recovery, etc, etc
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Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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mg2195 said:
Ok, thanks for the info...I was looking at one of the stickies and it said it wasn't needed but didn't say what it did...so I guess ill need it to flash a recovery
Again thanks for the info
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No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader
homeslice976 said:
No. To flash a custom recovery all you need is an unlocked bootloader. Recovery is one of the partitions you can fastboot flash without s-off or an eng bootloader
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Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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mg2195 said:
Ok then...so if I'm just gonna be flashing roms than s off isn't neccessary? Sorry for all the questions...just wanna do everything right...
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I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc
s-off necesary for kernel?
homeslice976 said:
I see you have ATT, which means you have a Vivid, so S-Off is NOT necessary for flashing ROMs. If the Vivid came with ICS, you're all set to unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery, flash boot.img, and flash ROM. If your Vivid currently has GB, you'll want to run an ICS RUU first (relock bootloader first if it is currently unlocked), then unlock, etc
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i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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Not necessary but makes it easier. There are other options: (boot.img is usually found in the rom zip file.)
1. Fastboot boot recovery.img - command from terminal/CMD
2. Fastboot flash boot boot.img - command from terminal/CMD
3. Flashimage GUI (app is in Themes and Apps section)
Any of these options will work.
nikhilpshankar said:
i'm on at&t with ics update , rooted unlocked bootloader
i hav a confusion...is s-off necesary for flashing kernel?i want to flash holicakes kernel but i cant find if s-off is necessary for kernel
thanks for any future help
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DO NOT FLASH HOLICAKES KERNEL... ITS FOR GINGERBREAD
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Wow...back in my noobie HTC days lol haha
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I laughed when I saw this thread pop back up too
Two simple questions: When do I need S-OFF and when do I know?
I want to test some of the custom roms on xda, and I have unlocked the bootloader, flashed cwm and are rooted.
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You don't need S OFF to use ROMS. So long as you have CWM you can flash any ROM. But you have to flash the Boot.IMG separately as well.
E.g.
- Download your ROM
- Double click on the ZIP and take the Boot.IMG out. Just get a copy of it. Doesn't matter if it's still in the ZIP. You just need a copy of it.
- Flash the ROM
- Go back in Fastboot and flash the Boot.IMG
- To do that put the IMG in your Fastboot folder or any folder than recognises ADB (Fastboot mode)
- Open CMD and navigate to the Fastboot folder in which the boot.img is too
- Type with CMD : Fastboot flash boot boot.img
- It should say complete or OK
- Restart phone and enjoy
S OFF is mainly just for users who can't be bothered to do that. And to find out if you have S OFF you go in Fastboot mode and it will say up top if it is or not (S-ON)
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But why not just get s off and flash roms normally? What's the reason for not get s off?
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VistaX said:
But why not just get s off and flash roms normally? What's the reason for not get s off?
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you don't need S-off unless you want to change your phone's CID or downgrade the HBoot
if you don't know what these things are you don't need it.
You also don't need it to flash a kernel like the 2nd post suggested.
I've flashed about 10 different roms and not had to that with any of them. Just flash the zip in recovery. I'm new to android a few months so maybe things have changed recently?
S-off is if you want change bootloaders, cid, etc. Once you have s-off it's easy to brick your device if you're not careful. It's not needed for flashing roms though.
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Ah, then I'm gonna skip S-OFF. I've flashed many roms with mye SGS3 and LGO2X, but I think maybe HTC is a little more tricky to handle.
VistaX said:
Ah, then I'm gonna skip S-OFF. I've flashed many roms with mye SGS3 and LGO2X, but I think maybe HTC is a little moretricky to handle.
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Yes they are definitely!
So for the "common flasher" it's not necessary to be S-ON?
VistaX said:
So for the "common flasher" it's not necessary to be S-ON?
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If all you plan to do is use custom ROMs then there's no need to be S-OFF. All you'll really need is unlocked bootloader and custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).
S-off allows you to change your phone's firmware regardless of what carrier you have or model ID. So you can get the most recent firmware even if your carrier hasn't pushed out an OTA. That matters to some people but not all.
It also allows you to flash a custom hboot to remove the red text on your splash screen. This is wholly an OCD thing--there's no good reason to do it otherwise.
S-off essentially means you're taking full responsibility for your phone and can't rely on HTC's security checks to prevent bricks.
I just need a clarification on flashing custom ROMs. I come from other phones like Samsung that when it comes to flashing ROMs, there is no need to flash boot.img via fastboot afterwards. I understand that it is because a htcdev unlocked phone cannot write to the boot partition from its recovery partition.
Question is that I have flashed CM12.1 (and GAPPS) onto the phone but I have not done the part of flashing boot.img via fastboot. I am still able to boot into system and am now using the phone without any incident. Why is that so?
tech_girl said:
I just need a clarification on flashing custom ROMs. I come from other phones like Samsung that when it comes to flashing ROMs, there is no need to flash boot.img via fastboot afterwards. I understand that it is because a htcdev unlocked phone cannot write to the boot partition from its recovery partition.
Question is that I have flashed CM12.1 (and GAPPS) onto the phone but I have not done the part of flashing boot.img via fastboot. I am still able to boot into system and am now using the phone without any incident. Why is that so?
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With the M7 flashing boot.img is possible during the Rom install. Only older HTC devices required boot.img to be flashed separately :good:
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Danny201281 said:
With the M7 flashing boot.img is possible during the Rom install. Only older HTC devices required boot.img to be flashed separately :good:
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Thanks Danny201281. This is the procedure as outlined for flashing CM12.1. Does it matter what is the hboot version?
What ROM do you have on your M7?
tech_girl said:
Thanks Danny201281. This is the procedure as outlined for flashing CM12.1. Does it matter what is the hboot version?
What ROM do you have on your M7?
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Hboot is part of the firmware. Generally it's best to keep to roms based on your current firmware or to update your firmware to match the Rom you wish to use. I think your device was on lollipop firmware after using an RUU in a different thread correct?
If so you should be fine to use any of the latest roms. I'm currently using Android Revolution HD. I've been a long time fan of the Rom. It's kinda close to stock but that keeps things stable and using Sense Toolbox gives me most of the mods I'm looking for.
I'm not a fan of CM roms. There normally very experimental and glitchy. How you find a particular Rom depends very much on what you want from it ?
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