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As a quick FYI, I've returned two rooted Revolutions to Verizon with clockwork and both went through just fine. Anyone been charged for returning a rooted phone?
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returned my bricked rooted+rom'd LG ally without a problem.
Does anyone have the bloatware that came with this device? I will be shipping back my revo to Verizon in exchange for another phone, and I'm back on the stock room, but I'm missing bloatware. Also, how can I get the stock boot image back? I think they'll realize I was rooted when they see the Droid boot animation lol .
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Does anyone have the bloatware that came with this device? I will be shipping back my revo to Verizon in exchange for another phone, and I'm back on the stock room, but I'm missing bloatware. Also, how can I get the stock boot image back? I think they'll realize I was rooted when they see the Droid boot animation lol .
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If you have a back up from when you first rooted it should give you the stock boot.img. Then flash the stock rom found in the dev section. Then using revotoolkit.apk reinstall stock recovery. Then gingerbreak to unroot. Then update to zv6 from the about phone area and you should be good to go.
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crap...
I formatted my SD card recently, and kept my latest backup , but not my original
Is there anything I can do in regards to the boot.img?
Could someone be kind of enough to make a CWR zip file for me?
I'll even pay you $5 bucks or whatever sounds good.
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crap...
I formatted my SD card recently, and kept my latest backup , but not my original
Is there anything I can do in regards to the boot.img?
Could someone be kind of enough to make a CWR zip file for me?
I'll even pay you $5 bucks or whatever sounds good.
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My recommendation would be to flash this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129117
If it gives you the option to update, perhaps you should try that, and it may unroot your phone.
As far as CWM, I doubt the clerks are going to play with recovery... (that's not a guarantee, however).
If you are really desperate and scared, you should use the VZW tool for reflashing the phone, but I AM NOT RECOMMENDING IT. The tool has been known to do bad things to phones that need expert help to undo if not done properly (not only that, it's a pain in the arse).
Can I flash the boot image from that nandroid?
I was going to use the tool to run the downgrade again but I keep getting errors that I was not getting when I first rooted the phone. Mostly .msi installer package errors when selecting the .tot file.
If its in there it should be fine. If not i can make a zip of the stock boot.img when i get home but it will be about 7 central time.
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Can I flash the boot image from that nandroid?
I was going to use the tool to run the downgrade again but I keep getting errors that I was not getting when I first rooted the phone. Mostly .msi installer package errors when selecting the .tot file.
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I don't think the boot image was included with the earlier ROMs. I *probably* have a few boot images from when I was working with Cubed on CWR, but I don't know which is which, and some of those actually can cause bricks. Boot image was p8? I don't even remember now.
As far as selecting the .tot file, it requires the support files... They come with the LGNPST Store & Lab... they would look like:
LGNPST_GenericModels_Ver_3_0_17_0.msi
I'm not positive which one is the right one as it's been a long time. Sorry this is vague, but I went through the process once, and then never again.
The person whose phone we recovered through this method had an issue after the flash where everything looked kosher, but the data would no longer work (no 3g, 4g, etc), and required Cubed's intervention to repair. So I haven't touched it since.
-mtmichaelson, thanks man, i'll just wait for you to be safe! I can wait. I'll buy you some brewski's.
-Majorpay: Yeah, I'm not too sure I want to play around with that program lol. It worked perfectly when I first rooted the phone, although I had to manually register the .dll but now it doesn't work at all.
Thanks again for all the help guys! ****, you guys have great support for this small Revo community.
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-mtmichaelson, thanks man, i'll just wait for you to be safe! I can wait. I'll buy you some brewski's.
-Majorpay: Yeah, I'm not too sure I want to play around with that program lol. It worked perfectly when I first rooted the phone, although I had to manually register the .dll but now it doesn't work at all.
Thanks again for all the help guys! ****, you guys have great support for this small Revo community.
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Alright, here you go! Let me know if there are any problems!
http://www.multiupload.com/X1DIJDNPCV
thanks man! worked perfectly. sent some money your way.
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thanks man! worked perfectly. sent some money your way.
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Thank you kind sir!
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Does anyone have a backup of 6.893?
Typically I am very diligent, but somehow I forgot to make a backup of stock.
I have not switched to any other update. I have read through everything thoroughly and I apologize for failing to follow instructions. With 5 android devices and multiple flashes I have never missed this before. And I realized it as soon as I flashed TH3ORYS rom
From what I gather the easiest and most effective way to get back on track is to flash a stock 6.893 rom make a backup and move on from there.
I appreciate anyone's help!
I am also open to using this thread or creating one in delopment to post the stock roms of every version.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279825
Restore the system apps and you'll be back to square one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279825
Restore the system apps and you'll be back to square one.
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Not entirely true. His system will be back to 5.5.886, but his kernel/radio will be his previously upgraded 5.6.893. He is off the upgrade path until he gets the matching system file of 5.6.893. Only then can he continue updating. I just went through this exact thing, used the one step recovery, but went back to .886 and had to beg to find someone to send me a CWR back up of their 5.6.893, which got me back on track.
Oh yeah...nevermind. I completely thought you were wanting stock not the ota. That's what I get for speed reading.
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Not entirely true. His system will be back to 5.5.886, but his kernel/radio will be his previously upgraded 5.6.893. He is off the upgrade path until he gets the matching system file of 5.6.893. Only then can he continue updating. I just went through this exact thing, used the one step recovery, but went back to .886 and had to beg to find someone to send me a CWR back up of their 5.6.893, which got me back on track.
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You don't still have this do you? Because I am not above begging!
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I'm afraid I dont, I got back to 5.6.893 then immediately upgraded to 5.7.893 and backed that up, since .6.893 was no good to me any more. I'm sorry.
Someone out there has to have this!
....I hope
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Give this a try. (Can't post links yet)
rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-and-keep-root/
I'm thinking you will only need steps 1 and 2.
Hope it helps!!
ripper2860 said:
Give this a try. (Can't post links yet)
rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-and-keep-root/
I'm thinking you will only need steps 1 and 2.
Hope it helps!!
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Wont it fail because I'm not coming from stock? And if I go all the way back it wont work because ill end up with a hybrid?
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I'm in the same situation. Yes, all attempts to upgrade fail because our sys filed don't match our radio. I need this nandroid as well.
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Giving someone a backup made on your device or restoring a backup made on someone else's device is an extremely foolhardy proposition. You are cloning the Android_id from one device to the other, which means that apps that use it as an identifier will push and pull data from both devices without any intervention from the unknowingly affected user.
system img
correct me if im wrong but, all we need is the system img right because im stuck with a hybrid
Does anyone know if restoring my 5.893 back up will work, or create a hybrid? I ask because I think it is the same radios?
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If anyone is just now rooting and starting to make their way up the update ladder I would greatly appreciate it if you would make a backup of 6.893 and send it to me. Thank you!
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Dakota0206 said:
If anyone is just now rooting and starting to make their way up the update ladder I would greatly appreciate it if you would make a backup of 6.893 and send it to me. Thank you!
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Check your pms and please don't share in case there is some of my data still left in the backup. just download all the files and put them in a folder and put in your clockwork backup folder on your sd/ext, probably the best way is to restore with advanced restore and just restore system only.
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Check your pms and please don't share in case there is some of my data still left in the backup. just download all the files and put them in a folder and put in your clockwork backup folder on your sd/ext, probably the best way is to restore with advanced restore and just restore system only.
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Mad thanks!
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Mad thanks!
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Let me know if it works or you need some more help
I'm in the same boat here too. I hope someone can find a way to fix it soon. I'd really appreciate a backup too, but I understand the concern about data.
Calla969 said:
I'm in the same boat here too. I hope someone can find a way to fix it soon. I'd really appreciate a backup too, but I understand the concern about data.
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What steps have you done already. and what is your current system and what updates have you done.
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Let me know if it works or you need some more help
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What steps have you done already. and what is your current system and what updates have you done.
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I have really been through the ringer today. I started off this morning by noticing that I had no data at all. I was on 6.893 and TH3ORYROM 2.1 and have been for a few days with no trouble until today when I lost data. I tried everything to get it back, but nothing. I called VZW to make sure there wasn't a network problem in my area and they suggested that I try everything that I had already done (bat. pull, sim card re-register, turn off LTE radio, etc). When they couldn't fix anything, they wanted to transfer me to tier 2 tech support, but they apparently need to talk to me on a different phone so they can diagnose this one, but I didn't have access to another phone. So I decided I would try to flash one of the updates hoping it would reflash the radio file and wake it up. When I got home, I used the R3L3AS3DRoot to restore to stock and tried to install 7.893, but the update failed. I searched around and tried every method I could to get any of the updates to install, but nothing worked, still no 3g either. Eventually, in my desperate attempt to fix this myself I decided to wipe everything and start over. I wiped the webtop partition. I think that's what really screwed me up, because nothing else I did was any different that what I've done in the past. After wiping everything, I went back to the R3L3AS3DRoot and tried to run it. No matter which option I selected, it seemed to run fine, but I couldn't boot past the fastboot screen. I tried to fxz using RSD Lite, but every flash I tried failed. Then, in a panic, I came across P3's moto-fastboot method used to "get you back on the update path". I ran that and it freaking worked!! Then I figured I'd try to get up to 7.893, but I've tried absolutely everything I can find mention of and nothing works. Every install fails. I am getting some intermittent 3G now though. And to top it all off, I discovered that none of the nandroid backups I've made will restore and most of them don't even exist. I just discovered that I needed to check "use external storage" for the backups to take. I thought I had been covering my ass by making backups, but they weren't valid. Currently I have stock, rooted phone with an intermittent 3G signal. System Version 5.5.886, baseband CDMA_N_03.1C.57RLTEDC_U_05.15.02, kernel [email protected] #1, and build number 5.5.1_84_DBN-55. As I sit now, my plan is to see how it acts tomorrow and if I still have a lot of trouble with data, I will return it to stock unrooted and take it into a Verizon store and see if they will let me try a new SIM card. I don't really know what else to do at this point.
'Ello lads!.. So yes, I've traded my Galaxy Nexus for a Bionic(+ cash) with some fine chap. Sure the Nexus has a bit of a screen advantage but performance wise I honestly don't notice a dfference. The big thing is I'm glad the reception issues I was having with the Nexus are gone.
Anyway, that's alo for now. Cheerio!
Welcome! Update to .901 so this phone doesn't piss you. Can be a real slag without that update.
Cheers!
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voxigenboy said:
'Ello lads!.. So yes, I've traded my Galaxy Nexus for a Bionic(+ cash) with some fine chap. Sure the Nexus has a bit of a screen advantage but performance wise I honestly don't notice a dfference. The big thing is I'm glad the reception issues I was having with the Nexus are gone.
Anyway, that's alo for now. Cheerio!
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I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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Nicelysedated said:
Welcome! Update to .901 so this phone doesn't piss you. Can be a real slag without that update.
Cheers!
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So far I've done that Zerg manual root on the phone. Can I simply just download a ROM w/ .901 integrated or do I still have to do some sort of .901 update first?
lrs421 said:
I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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well, the battery life was pretty bad on the thing and was pissed that the 'extended battery' was only 250mAh more then the stock. on top of that, unless the phone was charging in 'ac mode', it would lose charge if you were trying to use it while in 'usb mode' charging. also i had severe reception issues with it(kept going back & forth from 3g to 4g & occasionally lost signal all together). and finally, i wanted the extra cash for something.
either way though i qualify for another upgrade this march anyway... pretty sure though that i'm just going to hold off until the quad's are out.
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So far I've done that Zerg manual root on the phone. Can I simply just download a ROM w/ .901 integrated or do I still have to do some sort of .901 update first?
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If you look in one of the .901 threads you can find a link to.download the update. Flash it in bootstrap. After that you can change to any of the .901 compatible ROMs. I don't think the ROMs update the radio.
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voxigenboy said:
well, the battery life was pretty bad on the thing and was pissed that the 'extended battery' was only 250mAh more then the stock. on top of that, unless the phone was charging in 'ac mode', it would lose charge if you were trying to use it while in 'usb mode' charging. also i had severe reception issues with it(kept going back & forth from 3g to 4g & occasionally lost signal all together). and finally, i wanted the extra cash for something.
either way though i qualify for another upgrade this march anyway... pretty sure though that i'm just going to hold off until the quad's are out.
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I was just poking fun . I'm sure you had your reasons. Welcome aboard.
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lrs421 said:
I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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I would stay away from the nexus from what I have been reading. Getting some bad reviews.
I have a Tbolt and the Bionic and I like the Bionic better. The only thing the Bionic does not do is be on the phone and surf at the same time on 3G, but I never do that...
Now that I rooted the Bionic I like it even better, but just staying on the stock rom and stock radio I have no issues. Great phone...
kendive said:
I would stay away from the nexus from what I have been reading. Getting some bad reviews.
I have a Tbolt and the Bionic and I like the Bionic better. The only thing the Bionic does not do is be on the phone and surf at the same time on 3G, but I never do that...
Now that I rooted the Bionic I like it even better, but just staying on the stock rom and stock radio I have no issues. Great phone...
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Yeah, in reality there is nothing wrong with my Bionic and once we get ICS I'll be content. Kudos to Moto for setting the trend, announcing the Bionic would get ICS before other manufacturers made statements about their devices.
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We will get ics. Just dont trust moto on time frames. We were supposed to have an unlocked bootloader end of last year. Its january 11 2012.
davwman said:
We will get ics. Just dont trust moto on time frames. We were supposed to have an unlocked bootloader end of last year. Its january 11 2012.
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Anyone get CWR to work on the Bionic? It is suppose to work but I can't get it to reboot into recovery?
kendive said:
Anyone get CWR to work on the Bionic? It is suppose to work but I can't get it to reboot into recovery?
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yeah the how to's in the dev section aren't exactly user friendly. basically though, i was not able to get CWM to work on it's own. you have to download that "Safestrap" .apk and install it. after doing so, it will install recovery itself. once that's done, you reboot your phone and press the MENU key once prompted, then you'll go into recovery.
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yeah the how to's in the dev section aren't exactly user friendly. basically though, i was not able to get CWM to work on it's own. you have to download that "Safestrap" .apk and install it. after doing so, it will install recovery itself. once that's done, you reboot your phone and press the MENU key once prompted, then you'll go into recovery.
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Thanks I will get that a shot today.
Update... Working now. Thanks again
I may write out a few how to's with all the fixes.
I agree, out of all the phones/tabs I've rooted/ROM'd the how to's in the Bionic Dev section are a bit...lacking.
All the info is there, but it takes you 5 hours to figure it out b/c the steps, dummy guides, fixes are spread out all over the place between here and a few other forums.
Safestrap is really nice though.
got556 said:
I may write out a few how to's with all the fixes.
I agree, out of all the phones/tabs I've rooted/ROM'd the how to's in the Bionic Dev section are a bit...lacking.
All the info is there, but it takes you 5 hours to figure it out b/c the steps, dummy guides, fixes are spread out all over the place between here and a few other forums.
Safestrap is really nice though.
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Yeah, your right. I don't know exactly what safestrap is (assuming its similar to bootstrap which I use) and when I tried to research it I got confused and just decided to stick with bionic bootstrap since I can't find a reason why its needed even though everyone talks about it.
I wouldn't use rom manager, just do everything in one of the two recoveries. Here's a breakdown of the recoveries for the Bionic
Bionic Safestrap
-Allows two system partitions
-One system is non-safe system where your main stock system resides. You can make and restore backups in this partition but you cannot install custom roms.
-The other system is safe system. This is the partion that lets you install roms and what not.
-You can toggle between the two systems from within safestrap recovery. It will automatically backup the current system before switching over.
-Safestrap has a nice feature that prevents bricks. On restart if Safestrap is installed there is a boot menu that pops up. You can hit the menu button to get into recovery from there. This comes in handy if you are having a bootloop. Just pull battery, restart phone and hit menu key when safestrap animation appears.
-One downside is that webtop doesn't work in safe system and the rom may run a tad bit slower in safe system partition
Bionic Bootstrap
-This is the riskier one
-This is more like regular clockwork recovery. You boot intro recovery from the bootstrap app.
-You can make backups, install roms etc in bootstrap recovery
-If you enter a bootloop while using bootstrap recovery, your phone is pretty much bricked. Because of the encrypted bootloader there is not a way to get back into recovery if using bootstrap. You will have to use sbf/fxz from a pc computer to unbrick your phone.
*You can use bootstrap to install a custom rom as your main system, and then install safestrap after if you want. But fully know what your are doing before you do this. If you don't use webtop, I recommend safestrap recovery for everything. Here is something I wrote over at Droidforums
-I have been testing roms out in safestrap to make sure they install and load up correctly
-I then toggle back to my main system in safestrap
-I then uninstall safestrap and install bootstrap.
-Then I boot into bootstrap recovery through that app
-Make a backup in bootstrap (always have a backup of your stock unmodified system)
-Wipe data and cach
-Install the Rom that I first tested in safestrap
-After Rom loads up and your are done flashing you can install safestrap again if you want. This way you will have a rom as your safe system and you can have another rom as your non-safe system. Webtop will work with roms on your main system.
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I wouldn't use rom manager, just do everything in one of the two recoveries. Here's a breakdown of the recoveries for the Bionic
Bionic Safestrap
-Allows two system partitions
-One system is non-safe system where your main stock system resides. You can make and restore backups in this partition but you cannot install custom roms.
-The other system is safe system. This is the partion that lets you install roms and what not.
-You can toggle between the two systems from within safestrap recovery. It will automatically backup the current system before switching over.
-Safestrap has a nice feature that prevents bricks. On restart if Safestrap is installed there is a boot menu that pops up. You can hit the menu button to get into recovery from there. This comes in handy if you are having a bootloop. Just pull battery, restart phone and hit menu key when safestrap animation appears.
-One downside is that webtop doesn't work in safe system and the rom may run a tad bit slower in safe system partition
Bionic Bootstrap
-This is the riskier one
-This is more like regular clockwork recovery. You boot intro recovery from the bootstrap app.
-You can make backups, install roms etc in bootstrap recovery
-If you enter a bootloop while using bootstrap recovery, your phone is pretty much bricked. Because of the encrypted bootloader there is not a way to get back into recovery if using bootstrap. You will have to use sbf/fxz from a pc computer to unbrick your phone.
*You can use bootstrap to install a custom rom as your main system, and then install safestrap after if you want. But fully know what your are doing before you do this. If you don't use webtop, I recommend safestrap recovery for everything. Here is something I wrote over at Droidforums
-I have been testing roms out in safestrap to make sure they install and load up correctly
-I then toggle back to my main system in safestrap
-I then uninstall safestrap and install bootstrap.
-Then I boot into bootstrap recovery through that app
-Make a backup in bootstrap (always have a backup of your stock unmodified system)
-Wipe data and cach
-Install the Rom that I first tested in safestrap
-After Rom loads up and your are done flashing you can install safestrap again if you want. This way you will have a rom as your safe system and you can have another rom as your non-safe system. Webtop will work with roms on your main system.
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Thanks I too was a little fuzzy on Safestrap. Now I know.
No problem. Here is a good link on safestrap http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8794-bionic-safestrap-bootstrap-recovery-12142011/page__fromsearch__1
kendive said:
I would stay away from the nexus from what I have been reading. Getting some bad reviews.
I have a Tbolt and the Bionic and I like the Bionic better. The only thing the Bionic does not do is be on the phone and surf at the same time on 3G, but I never do that...
Now that I rooted the Bionic I like it even better, but just staying on the stock rom and stock radio I have no issues. Great phone...
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It's not possible to talk and surf at the same time on Verizon's 3g network. I don't believe that is a feature most people need or would even use, but it sounds good on the commercials.
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lrs421 said:
I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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The Nexus isn't worth it. I've tested it out and wasn't too impressed. One big thing I didn't like about it was that it only had 3 buttons compared to the normal 4 (home, back, search, menu). That might not be as big of deal with newer users who aren't as used to certain things, but I've been with Android for almost 3 years so the typical 4 buttons is a must as its something I became used to.
As far or the specs, its nothing to get excited about when they have much better coming out this spring and summer.
As far as ice cream sandwich, the bionic is getting it and will have Google's help with getting it set up for our phones.
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I think I understand how safestrap works (it installs some kind of hijack to boot /preinstall instead of booting /system) but I have been reading a number of users who have bricked their phone...
I basically have the SafeStrap install screen up, but am hesitant to do this...
Just a few questions before I take the plunge
1) Why are so many users having problems with safesrap? I download the Droid3 version 1.08 for use on my Bell Motorola XT860 4G
2) What exactly does safestrap do in the boot loading sequence? If this is not public knowledge (and might be worked out "against" please, no harm, I'm just wondering, so if I could get an idea as how the hijack works, either in the thread or PM that would help greatly)
3) If you restore the original system and disable the hijack, will that really bring me back to complete original stock? What if they patch the boot partition as they did last time?
Thanks for all your help guys! I know a lot of you have been using custom roms, I really want to load up ICS on here, and it's almost ready for prime-time so I just want to be prepared!
First off, I have an XT862 not the XT860. The hijack is a 2nd init hijack. Safestrap does this hijack itself as opposed to with bootstrap where whatever ROM you flash has to do the hijack. Safestrap also as you mentioned uses /preinstall to store /system of the ROM you flash. This means that nothing other than safestrap itself touches your stock /system. This allows safestrap to protect itself so you can always get back to recovery even if there is a bad flash it can't overwrite the hijack and recovery so you can try again.
I also don't remember seeing much of problems with safestrap itself other than a partition size problem. I think I remember seeing that some update took care of that problem. I have seen people having more problems with ROMs on the XT860 than other versions of the phone.
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I think I understand how safestrap works (it installs some kind of hijack to boot /preinstall instead of booting /system) but I have been reading a number of users who have bricked their phone...
I basically have the SafeStrap install screen up, but am hesitant to do this...
Just a few questions before I take the plunge
1) Why are so many users having problems with safesrap? I download the Droid3 version 1.08 for use on my Bell Motorola XT860 4G
2) What exactly does safestrap do in the boot loading sequence? If this is not public knowledge (and might be worked out "against" please, no harm, I'm just wondering, so if I could get an idea as how the hijack works, either in the thread or PM that would help greatly)
3) If you restore the original system and disable the hijack, will that really bring me back to complete original stock? What if they patch the boot partition as they did last time?
Thanks for all your help guys! I know a lot of you have been using custom roms, I really want to load up ICS on here, and it's almost ready for prime-time so I just want to be prepared!
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First off, the most common problem I have seen people have with safestrap is not understanding what it does and even more common is not knowing how to use it, basically a lot of user error. The previous poster summed up pretty well how it works. Finally, uninstalling safestrap will NOT bring you back to original stock, it will remove itself and the secondary ROM it allowed you to install. Since you have to be rooted to even install it, if you uninstall it you will still be rooted, not stock.
Just so you are clear, you can have whatever ROM you want on your phone BEFORE installing Safestrap and this will become the Safe system by default. You will no longer be able to change this ROM as long as Safestrap is installed. Instead, it allows you to put another ROM, basically a dual-boot, in addition to the original rom you have. Now you have a Safe system and a Non safe system. The Non safe system is the only one Safestrap will allow you to change (and brick for that matter). So if/when you install a ROM that boot loops or crashes, you simply can revert back to your safe system and now your phone works again, neat huh?
AFAIK, he does have the XT860, since the XT862 is the Verizon Droid 3 (3G, not Bell Canada 4G). Also, using it on my 862, I have not been able to brick it. If flashing the experimental system fails, you can just reboot into the Safestrap menu and flash something new. I don't see why it wouldn't work on the 860, as all it does it modify the booting. Any issues would most likely be caused by a ROM flashing issue, not safestrap.
I took the plunge this afternoon... Installed SafeStrap and CM9 nightly on my device... Not sure if everything is working just yet, but will be doing testing throughout the day
No problems were reported with the installation or instructions, so that's great. Thanks a lot!
I'm using a XT860 (Brazilian Vivo, but I'm not sure if it's 4G - LTE - compatible, I know that it works with 3.5G).
I have Safestrap 3.0.5 installed and I'm using all the 4 slots (MavROM, Minimoto, CM9 e CM10). All of then runs well (with their particular issues), none of them caused any trouble on the phone.
Thiago AmP said:
I'm using a XT860 (Brazilian Vivo, but I'm not sure if it's 4G - LTE - compatible, I know that it works with 3.5G).
I have Safestrap 3.0.5 installed and I'm using all the 4 slots (MavROM, Minimoto, CM9 e CM10). All of then runs well (with their particular issues), none of them caused any trouble on the phone.
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Same here. I'm using it on a Brazilian TIM, no problems at all. I have two active slots( Stock, Gummy 0.90) and two for testing.
It is in fact the best recovery that I've used, so far.
Thiago AmP said:
I'm using a XT860 (Brazilian Vivo, but I'm not sure if it's 4G - LTE - compatible, I know that it works with 3.5G).
I have Safestrap 3.0.5 installed and I'm using all the 4 slots (MavROM, Minimoto, CM9 e CM10). All of then runs well (with their particular issues), none of them caused any trouble on the phone.
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None of the d3 variants are LTE capable
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Endoroid said:
None of the d3 variants are LTE capable
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Yeah, I realize that before reviewing its radio specs.
Munckster said:
Same here. I'm using it on a Brazilian TIM, no problems at all. I have two active slots( Stock, Gummy 0.90) and two for testing.
It is in fact the best recovery that I've used, so far.
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@Munckster
Actually, after trying to acess a SD Card partition with Link2SD, I lost acess to Recovery. I'm stuck on the stock ROM (root keeps on, but SafeStrap 3.05 doesn't work).
Installed Titanium Backup to keep my data safe, but it isn't working too. I'm going to reinstall it later.
I'm afraid that I'll have to uninstall all my root apps, unroot the phone and do all the process again...
I'm very newbie at linux and Android and I'm doing all that by reading (a lot). I'd apreciate if someone could tell how to deal with this problem.
Thiago AmP said:
Yeah, I realize that before reviewing its radio specs.
@Munckster
Actually, after trying to acess a SD Card partition with Link2SD, I lost acess to Recovery. I'm stuck on the stock ROM (root keeps on, but SafeStrap 3.05 doesn't work).
Installed Titanium Backup to keep my data safe, but it isn't working too. I'm going to reinstall it later.
I'm afraid that I'll have to uninstall all my root apps, unroot the phone and do all the process again...
I'm very newbie at linux and Android and I'm doing all that by reading (a lot). I'd apreciate if someone could tell how to deal with this problem.
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Try shutting the phone off and powering up while holding m, then using vol down select bp tools from the list that appears, and confirm with vol up.
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Endoroid said:
Try shutting the phone off and powering up while holding m, then using vol down select bp tools from the list that appears, and confirm with vol up.
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I've already tried it, but without success... I'll keep searching what to do in this situation...
Thiago AmP said:
Actually, after trying to acess a SD Card partition with Link2SD, I lost acess to Recovery. I'm stuck on the stock ROM (root keeps on, but SafeStrap 3.05 doesn't work).
Installed Titanium Backup to keep my data safe, but it isn't working too. I'm going to reinstall it later.
I'm afraid that I'll have to uninstall all my root apps, unroot the phone and do all the process again...
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Unrooting seems like overkill. If you are "stuck" on stock, I would just start the Safestrap app. Click the button to uninstall recovery and restart the phone. Then open Safestrap again, click the button to install recovery, and restart the phone. Hopefully the Safestrap menu will show and you can then activate recovery.
So long as you do not erase anything on the internal storage, your slots should still be there.
doogald said:
Unrooting seems like overkill. If you are "stuck" on stock, I would just start the Safestrap app. Click the button to uninstall recovery and restart the phone. Then open Safestrap again, click the button to install recovery, and restart the phone. Hopefully the Safestrap menu will show and you can then activate recovery.
So long as you do not erase anything on the internal storage, your slots should still be there.
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I've tried it several times before I came with the idea of unroot my phone and redo the process. Here is my dicoveries http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082292
I know that it's obvious, but I guess that just few people knew that it would work.
SafeStrap problems
Odd problem, I can't get the menu button to work. In order to get back to my "safe" rom I have to start safestrap,and select uninstall recovery.
Then reboot, and it will bring up my "Safe" rom. If I then go back to SafeStrap, and re-install the recovery, and reboot, it will again bring up SafeStrap, but if I hit Menu, it doesnt' bring up any options it again boots up my non-safe ROM (minimoto 1.6)
Anyone have any ideas...I guess I can try to remove the safestrap directory on the sdcard after I uninstall the recover, and then try to reinstall the App, and try all over again?
So in my infinite wisdom I deleted com.android.providers.media using titanium backup. I thought I had backed the file up but apparently I didn't. Either that or it didn't actually back the file up. Either way elements of my phone are now totally burned as you would imagine. No gallery, no music in my music player, and no ringtones. So my question is even if I do a factory reset will that help? Yes this was the stock ROM yes I tried installing a stock image on top of the ROM but the installation froze and I had to reboot and restore my nan droid. No I didn't have a nandroid of before I started dicking around. And finally yes I am a complete idiot. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Actually if some one would just be willing to use titanium backup to backup that file then post it here I could probably just restore it? Hope some one can help
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Odexed\deodexed....ICS\JB...Stock\Custom....Bell\ATT\Other...not much to go on...either way, go to the Batakang FTP and download which rom you need and you'll always have a backup copy of all the files needed (the bottom two). If your not AT&T, then you can get deodexed versions on my Goo.im page or odexed versions directly from the fastboot.
Sweet thanks man. So would u say that I should safely be able to install over the stock ROM? Or should I wipe then install? Also since these are stock I can install them to ROM slot stock right?
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Odexed\deodexed....ICS\JB...Stock\Custom....Bell\ATT\Other...not much to go on...either way, go to the Batakang FTP and download which rom you need and you'll always have a backup copy of all the files needed (the bottom two). If your not AT&T, then you can get deodexed versions on my Goo.im page or odexed versions directly from the fastboot.
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Hey, so I've been doing a lot of research on safe strap and apparently you cannot overwrite the stock ROM slot which would be why I couldn't flash anything to it. So what I did was create a new slot (slot 1) with the stock image. I installed safestrap to that new ROM. My question now would be, If I create a nandroid of that ROM and restore it to the stock slot will that work? Or will it bork due to not having safestrap recovery installed to the system partition anymore and there for stop it from booting along with killing safestrap? Hoping some one can chime in on this one as I'm quite anxious to get back to normal phone use. at least for now all my sounds are back but having a 1 gig system partition is a major bummer.
metalmike6 said:
Hey, so I've been doing a lot of research on safe strap and apparently you cannot overwrite the stock ROM slot which would be why I couldn't flash anything to it. So what I did was create a new slot (slot 1) with the stock image. I installed safestrap to that new ROM. My question now would be, If I create a nandroid of that ROM and restore it to the stock slot will that work? Or will it bork due to not having safestrap recovery installed to the system partition anymore and there for stop it from booting along with killing safestrap? Hoping some one can chime in on this one as I'm quite anxious to get back to normal phone use. at least for now all my sounds are back but having a 1 gig system partition is a major bummer.
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That's where I'm at. On my stock rom, /system/etc/safestrap was added, logwrapper was modified to execute 2nd-init. AFAIK, that's all that was added. I'm so used to the Defy bootstrap method that I'm having a hard time getting used to SS - Defy BS was clearly laid out on what was executed and when that was done -- I've even looked at the SS source and its scripts and still can figure out what's the first script called by the 2nd-init loader....makes me feel super noob .
Well supposedly hash code said that after every restore and flash to the safe slot (stock) safe strap will reinstall itself on /system so if that's the case restoring any backup to that safe slot should be OK. But if that were the case no one would be able to brick. And I've seen people brick with and lose safestrap, and have to use RSD. Which is the road I don't want to have to go down. Really wish I had a definite answer because it seems like it should work but I don't want to do it unless some one who knows more about this than me confirms it.
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