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I am deeply sorry

Last weekend, while i was at a batchelors party my roomate found it funny to use my user name to create posts. This ended up in me being banned for 7 days and the vulgarity used was very disrespectful to me and this community. He is/was pissed of at me because he hasnt chippd in on rent in about 2 1/2 months so i told him last friday he needed to move. So as i was at the party he used my user name (because cookies enabled im always logged in) and created a new user name using a diffrent broswer. I hope you members can accept my apologie, as im deeply sorry. This was extremely embarrasing to me. And now i have kicked this mother out of my home. again i am deeply sorry for the actions last weekend, and once again i hope you all can forgive the situation. And for reference here is a link to the post i was talking about (CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389943
And again im so so sorry.

don't sweat it man. we all run into people like that who are supposedly our friend's, but reality speak they are nothing more than a bunch of losers.
glad to see u got ur act reinstated.

That was not a good enough punishment. I think you should have to give me your Kasier/tilt/whatever, and that would be a suitable punishment.

thesire said:
don't sweat it man. we all run into people like that who are supposedly our friend's, but reality speak they are nothing more than a bunch of losers.
glad to see u got ur act reinstated.
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i concurr. . pick and choose them wisely.. hopefully this will be an eye opener!

As I previously stated in those threads, I didn't think that was you anyway. Just seemed really out of character to me. Almost child like I thought. No hard feelings here as I didn't think it was you anyway. I couldn't explain the IP similiarities but you just did so in my opinion its the past and there is no need to dwell in the past.
Welcome back.

I really appreciate the support, bad thing is this guy has been a really good friend since college. And ever since he moved in with me its been a nightmare. Well now he had moved in with his parents. I am also filing suit in small claim's to get back rent and utilites that he never paid.

So no tilt for me?

KD8DNS said:
I really appreciate the support, bad thing is this guy has been a really good friend since college. And ever since he moved in with me its been a nightmare. Well now he had moved in with his parents. I am also filing suit in small claim's to get back rent and utilites that he never paid.
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Sometimes its just better to cut your losses and move on.

I too thought it was a little strange to see Banned under your name. I had never seen any wild posts on your part that would have caused it...
Now take that SOB to People's Court so we can all watch him look like a jackass in front of Judge Marilyn Milian.

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That was not a good enough punishment. I think you should have to give me your Kasier/tilt/whatever, and that would be a suitable punishment.
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Yea sure, I work for att so i can hook you up with a tilt (A dummy display)!! ha ha ha ha

Dude!! I was in the same exact situation. I kicked this one guy out, not because of rent, but because of disrespect. He would bring his gf at night and you know what when I was trying to get sleep. I gave the guy consideration to have the place to himself for a few hours. What I did was told him to watch a movie with him and his girlfriend as well as me adn my girlfriend. The movie was called You Me and Dupree (if I got it right) He got the point I was trying to make and at the end of the movie we got in an argument. I won. Yay!

Is it too soon to laugh at this? (Or am I just a bit twisted?).
Still, sorry to here that happen to you mate. Seen it happen on a Wiki I go on and it really pi$$es people off.
Once a vandal created a login of an admin with an i instead of an l in the username, everyone thought the admin had gone nuts. Very funny.
Dave

KD8DNS said:
Yea sure, I work for att so i can hook you up with a tilt (A dummy display)!! ha ha ha ha
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Hmm something to drop infront of a crowed to make them think I broke my preciouseses.. Sounds good to me.

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Hmm something to drop infront of a crowed to make them think I broke my preciouseses.. Sounds good to me.
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p.m. your address to me and ill se what i can do

It all clicks into place now. Yeah I thought the same as P1Tater. You never really attacked the community, but the newbs. Then that day, you got more and more wacky and disrepectful. I thought you had gone off your meds.
BTW, Never become roomates with your buddies, they are always more of a slacker than you expect.
Anyhow, welcome back man.

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It all clicks into place now. Yeah I thought the same as P1Tater. You never really attacked the community, but the newbs. Then that day, you got more and more wacky and disrepectful. I thought you had gone off your meds.
BTW, Never become roomates with your buddies, they are always more of a slacker than you expect.
Anyhow, welcome back man.
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noo, i still taken my crazy pills, i think anyway. (listen do you hear that) what did you say. huh, your freakin me out. Ohhh what was i talking about

Decent
I think its decent of you to respond the way you did to the community. Given what life throws at us from time to time, it makes things like rubbish video drivers on the Kaiser rather a petty complaint (gritted teeth - gimme decent drivers HTC damn it!).

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I think its decent of you to respond the way you did to the community. Given what life throws at us from time to time, it makes things like rubbish video drivers on the Kaiser rather a petty complaint (gritted teeth - gimme decent drivers HTC damn it!).
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Calm down now Buudy. Take it from me, you are going to get ulcers if you worry about the Video Driver issue. My phone works great. Video could be better but, I live stress free not worrying about it.

Thank you
Just wanted to say thanks to all that realized that the disrespectful posts were not me but a immature arse hole x-roommate. (And today is the day i sue his ass in court) i have printed off the posts he created to use in court to justify his character. Anyway thanks much FRIENDS.

PLEASE - I NEED HELP JAILBREAKING MY iPHONE 3GS!!!

JUST KIDDING!!! I will NEVER own an iPhone of any generation - PERIOD!!
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I have bought all three generations of iPhones on launch day, but I cannot take it any longer.
In the end, it was rejection of Google Voice from the App Store that drove me to this point, but that was just the tip of the spear. Whether it is their refusal to let other gadgets such as the Palm Pre interface with iTunes, or their Draconian App Store procedures...I simply cannot support them with a clear conscience, which is why I chose to end the life of my iPhone in this manner instead of selling it--after all, who would want to pass on a cancer to another person?
Apple may have fooled the world with their witty commercials and bright t-shirts, but they will no longer fool me. Their approach has helped them gain a sizable chunk of the PC market, but as their popularity grows, people will begin to see them for what they really are--a corporation far more "evil" than Microsoft would ever dream to be.
Apple is turning consumerism into communism. Any entity that enforces such anti-competitive practices and dictates what their paying population can and cannot have without any explanation, consistency, or reason is communistic. It's wrong and I will no longer support it.
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Haha well, i dont mind spreading the "cancer," im reselling my iphone
And i dont hate the iphone, i just dont like it or apple anymore...

You know, it actually held up better than I thought it would in that video

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You know, it actually held up better than I thought it would in that video
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Ha! I know right? I would have figured the first round would have blown it to pieces but no.... It took 4 before the phone even broke in half!

Went on the rounds not so long ago via faceplant/twit the music really sets the scenario

Congrats, must feel good

Insane...LoL...but great stress relief
Seriously, I hope this guy doesn't take this to another step...and start shooting a apple store or even worst

Now I'd like to see "50cal V. iPad"

Those Foxconn workers may be suicidal, but the build a tough phone

The title should be "PLEASE HELP THIS LAME PHONE MAKE SOME FRIENDS!"

AGAIN!!! AGAIN!!! The iphone does make a good target.

Thought this was brilliant when I watched it, music really does set the scene!
How many times do you reckon the guy missed? Or is he a better shot then I would be if I ever touched a gun....

PS3 Development

Hello all, I'm new here. Don't you just love seeing those 5 words?
Anyways, I own a PS3 and was wondering if anyone has or heard of a program that enables you to copy movies and games to the internal hard drive?
Basically giving you the ability to get rid of those cumbersome discs. I'm a moron, so please go easy on me. I've heard of one for the PS2. But that only enables games to be copied. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Wise man say, "never pay full price for late pizza. "

Its people like you, yes you, that put game devs and companies out of freaking business. PEOPLE LIKE YOU are the reason i cant play dead rising 2 with my friends because PSN is down. Its people like you that try to cheat everybody out of whats thiers. There are websites FOR the specific question youre asking. NOT XDA-Developers. We do NOT associate with warez, nor illegal copyright infringment. People like you that want everything but dont wanna fuc*** pay for it make me sick.
//end rant.
Sent from my ADR6300 with the power of BUNGHOLIO!!!!!!!

Take a chill pill watt. I know where you're coming from.
@OP: Sorry, this is XDA, not PS3-dev.forum.com, so, er...

Really guys, be nice to him. It was a question. Thats all.
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Look. I do apoligize. But piriating and sh*t has gone way to far. Im sorry. The whole GeoHotz thing, custom firmwares, psn hacked, its got me strung out cause i had credit card info on there. Sorry OP, just piriating/copy infringment pisses me off.
Sent from my ADR6300 with the power of BUNGHOLIO!!!!!!!

watt9493 said:
Look. I do apoligize. But piriating and sh*t has gone way to far. Im sorry. The whole GeoHotz thing, custom firmwares, psn hacked, its got me strung out cause i had credit card info on there. Sorry OP, just piriating/copy infringment pisses me off.
Sent from my ADR6300 with the power of BUNGHOLIO!!!!!!!
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It pisses me off too. Just chill, man. No need to get overworked over anything

watt9493 said:
Look. I do apoligize. But piriating and sh*t has gone way to far. Im sorry. The whole GeoHotz thing, custom firmwares, psn hacked, its got me strung out cause i had credit card info on there. Sorry OP, just piriating/copy infringment pisses me off.
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Wow... hit a nerve did I? I'm not interested in pirating anything.
I pay for my movies and games. I have also donated to several devs on this forum for their work and contributions.
I simply would like to take all of my discs and install them on my hard drive. I'm getting irritated with the wall of dvd boxes, and tired of the discs getting scratched and dirty.
To much maintenance if you ask me.
Even putting them in a disc logic binder is still negating the purpose.
However, I do agree... people that pirate cause all of the problems, and because of them the majority pays for their crimes.
I apologize for any misunderstanding. If I posted this on the wrong forum, delete it. I just thought, with the wealth of experience and knowledge, here would be a good spot to ask my question.
Wise man say, "never pay full price for late pizza. "

lncoln said:
Wow... hit a nerve did I? I'm not interested in pirating anything.
I pay for my movies and games. I have also donated to several devs on this forum for their work and contributions.
I simply would like to take all of my discs and install them on my hard drive. I'm getting irritated with the wall of dvd boxes, and tired of the discs getting scratched and dirty.
To much maintenance if you ask me.
Even putting them in a disc logic binder is still negating the purpose.
However, I do agree... people that pirate cause all of the problems, and because of them the majority pays for their crimes.
I apologize for any misunderstanding. If I posted this on the wrong forum, delete it. I just thought, with the wealth of experience and knowledge, here would be a good spot to ask my question.
Wise man say, "never pay full price for late pizza. "
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This is the right section. Off topic. A Ps3 site might be better able to help you though. Youre not going to get much response from the guys here. Just not the "thing" anyway, i apoligize for my first post, its just that when people come, asking to do something VERY sketchy, that is in the news and were having problems with, it raises a red flag. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
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watt9493 said:
This is the right section. Off topic. A Ps3 site might be better able to help you though. Youre not going to get much response from the guys here. Just not the "thing" anyway, i apoligize for my first post, its just that when people come, asking to do something VERY sketchy, that is in the news and were having problems with, it raises a red flag. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Sent from my ADR6300 with the power of BUNGHOLIO!!!!!!!
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Nice to see you two kiss and make up. Now go get a room.
Back on topic (or off topic, let's not go there, shall we?), piracy is a major problem for a lot of people. I can't get access to cheap games, especially when a game could cost up to half a week's wage for me, and that's not even taking into account my living expenses.

You know the funny thing is, I had no idea about the PSN hack until 15 mins ago. One of the first stories on the news.
Why can't people just leave sh*t alone? Stop with the bs.
I understand that without hackers, we wouldn't have some of the stuff that we have. But come on! There's a line that people just shouldn't cross.
Wise man say, "never pay full price for late pizza. "

lncoln said:
You know the funny thing is, I had no idea about the PSN hack until 15 mins ago. One of the first stories on the news.
Why can't people just leave sh*t alone? Stop with the bs.
I understand that without hackers, we wouldn't have some of the stuff that we have. But come on! There's a line that people just shouldn't cross.
Wise man say, "never pay full price for late pizza. "
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Sony crossed that line first.

sakai4eva said:
Sony crossed that line first.
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So true. Doesn't mean you have to ruin it for millions.
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Dudes you just reminded me my card details are on PSN too Can you access PSN from website?

MacaronyMax said:
Dudes you just reminded me my card details are on PSN too Can you access PSN from website?
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I have no idea. I'd anything does come out, its going right back in, or Sony will hear a lotta stuff from a lotta people
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watt9493 said:
Look. I do apoligize. But piriating and sh*t has gone way to far. Im sorry. The whole GeoHotz thing, custom firmwares, psn hacked, its got me strung out cause i had credit card info on there. Sorry OP, just piriating/copy infringment pisses me off.
Sent from my ADR6300 with the power of BUNGHOLIO!!!!!!!
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Actually I would blame Sony for all of this before GeoHot, if their security division would've been doing their jobs that I'm sure they're getting paid six figure salaries for, none of this would've happened, or at least the extremity of it. If Sony is offering a service that requires ppl credit card info, its their jobs to make damn sure the server where all this sensitive info is kept is 100% secure.
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Actually I would blame Sony for all of this before GeoHot, if their security division would've been doing their jobs that I'm sure they're getting paid six figure salaries for, none of this would've happened, or at least the extremity of it. If Sony is offering a service that requires ppl credit card info, its their jobs to make damn sure the server where all this sensitive info is kept is 100% secure.
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You blame sony for this!?! People make security systems. People arent perfect. Therefore neither are the security systems. Sony went after GeoHotz after he hacked the ps3 and made it possible to copy movies/games to the HD. This isnt sonys fault. Its the pricks that think they should get something for nothing.
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watt9493 said:
You blame sony for this!?! People make security systems. People arent perfect. Therefore neither are the security systems. Sony went after GeoHotz after he hacked the ps3 and made it possible to copy movies/games to the HD. This isnt sonys fault. Its the pricks that think they should get something for nothing.
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Oh I hold GeoHot and Anonymous responsible in ways too, but Sony isn't a saint in this either.
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Actually I would blame Sony for all of this before GeoHot, if their security division would've been doing their jobs that I'm sure they're getting paid six figure salaries for, none of this would've happened, or at least the extremity of it. If Sony is offering a service that requires ppl credit card info, its their jobs to make damn sure the server where all this sensitive info is kept is 100% secure.
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You can't possibly be serious, that's like saying "Oh, I can break into your car so if I do it's your fault for not making the car indestructible." You can't blame Sony because their security isn't air tight. No one's security is air tight, there will almost always be a loophole.
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yeah but sony's suing graf_chocolo as well! he did nothing related to piracy, he only wanted to restore a feature that was unrightfully taken from us: the other os feature. one of the two reasons I bought my ps3 was this feature, and sony just removes it "for security concerns?" furthermore, graf also stated that he would only turn it into a devs' thing or something, something that wouldn't be able to be used as an exploit for cfw whatsoever. i am against sony all the way - especially now that i know that they attempted to view our ip adresses for watching hotz's and graf's videos.....

Its not that hard to do and it doesnt take a special program, remember Google is your friend.

pissed abbout google play store and samsung appstore and espetially amazon appstore

hy,
im not sure if im doing something wrong but the google appstore is very incoherent, i dont even want to mention the other stores.
i was trying for example, to find resident evil 4 on the samsung store but found streetfighter 4 instead witch i cannot find on the google store nor anywhere.
streetfighter 4 was, by all sources on google first only exclusive for LG devices and then was expanded to some devices in japan, so i shouldnt even see it.
but alright thats the samsung store i dont expect much of that anyway .. but the google store is the same crap basically.
i go on my samsung s4 in the appstore app i press the menu button and select my apps and i got two tabs one says installed the other all.
on the installed tab i should see all apps installed on my device regardless if i got them from the samsung store or any other source i could have also downloaded an apk and installed it manually.
the i open my browser and go to the google app store .. what do i got there? i have on the left a link to my apps now i am supposed to get all my apps listed there ... and also one has that little gear icon witch is there for settings on it there is an option saying MY ORDERS that lists everything i ever purchased from the google appstore.
now the issue is that in the list of my apps on the browser i dont have the same items as on the list that the mobile app store gives me i am missing believe it or not even GOOGLE VOICE SEARCH witch appears on my mobile.
now the most retarded thing about this hole thing is that i got on my device in the all tap listed 2 samsung apps witch are the SAMSUNG HUB and PHOTO EDITOR when i go into details on both i get a message saying this app is not compatible with your device.
i cannot find neither of these apps on the google app store when i use the search embeded in the store app.
if this is really the android system then i take a crap on it. IS IT SO HARD TO MAKE THING COHERENT... I CANNOT IMAGINE ANYTHING SIMPLER IN THE HOLE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT OF AN ANDROID SYSTEM. i dont want to get thrown to by all this trash produced by a bunch of different standards different appstores but as you can see also within each store itselt.
I SO REGREAD BUYING THE S4 ILL NEVER CHANGE FROM APPLE AGAIN.
is it really so that in the process of developing a system like android google or samsung or whoever just says ok ... we developed all the core stuff we dont care about the UI just get the thing ready for sale

I've never had problems with it. Try re-installing it.
Edit: Judging by your lack of spelling and such, I'm assuming you're from a different country. That also affects what's available in the Play Store.
Complain about Samsung's App Store to Samsung and complain about Amazon's App Store to Amazon.
Writing an essay *****ing about everything isn't going to fix everything.

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I've never had problems with it. Try re-installing it.
Edit: Judging by your lack of spelling and such, I'm assuming you're from a different country. That also affects what's available in the Play Store.
Complain about Samsung's App Store to Samsung and complain about Amazon's App Store to Amazon.
Writing an essay *****ing about everything isn't going to fix everything.
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im not *****ing you are just blind or occupied with your playstation or something these are real issues and *****ing is the only thing one has left when GOOGLE AND SAMSUNG ... giant companies, are to stupid to make things as they should but i rather believe that they dont mind about costumers.
if you say that you have no issues, than maybe you havent checked all the stuff i mentioned above i allready took into account the fact that not all aps are available in all countries on the google appstore not sure if its the same on samsungs store.
i checked all spelling before posting really dont know where you found misspelled words
another thing is that i cannot find google magazines but i can find google books witch is just ridiculous... i want to throw out.
google is in everything they make incoherent and lackish.
i have no idea what is so hard about it but apple seems to be the only electronics company out there that can be trusted trully.

Unfortunately that's not how Google Play works. It's only going to show you what you installed via Google Play because those are they only ones it can determine you legally own. Same goes for the Amazon App store.
Google Play Web has always had issues displaying my apps. I think that's more of a limitation of the Web Developer and/or what they're using.
The issue you're having with the apps not being compatible with your device isn't Google Play's fault but the app developer's fault as they flag what the app is and isn't compatible with.
Funny how you mention Apple does it better but you have to remember there's only one maker of the iPhone so there's no worries about compatibility while there are many makers of Android Phones so compatibility's going to be an issue.

Kyuta Syuko said:
Unfortunately that's not how Google Play works. It's only going to show you what you installed via Google Play because those are they only ones it can determine you legally own. Same goes for the Amazon App store.
Google Play Web has always had issues displaying my apps. I think that's more of a limitation of the Web Developer and/or what they're using.
The issue you're having with the apps not being compatible with your device isn't Google Play's fault but the app developer's fault as they flag what the app is and isn't compatible with.
Funny how you mention Apple does it better but you have to remember there's only one maker of the iPhone so there's no worries about compatibility while there are many makers of Android Phones so compatibility's going to be an issue.
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Thats exactly right my friend these dudes dont even care to make a unique standard for everyone to follow like if thats a problem they cant handle ... just that we are stupid and buy their crap. I made that mistake the last time I cant believe I got myself convinced that android could be even close to apple even the sound quality is superb on iphone earpieses CAN ANYONE JUST BELIEVE THIS CRAP I CANT FOR SUR... and the thing why I cant believe it is because it is like the easyest thing to do.
Last videogame I played on pc, I couldnt setup the freacking controls for my gamepad right LIKE IF THATS A BIG DEAL ... ****ING MONKEYS

adrovic.ad said:
im not *****ing you are just blind or occupied with your playstation or something these are real issues and *****ing is the only thing one has left when GOOGLE AND SAMSUNG ... giant companies, are to stupid to make things as they should but i rather believe that they dont mind about costumers.
if you say that you have no issues, than maybe you havent checked all the stuff i mentioned above i allready took into account the fact that not all aps are available in all countries on the google appstore not sure if its the same on samsungs store.
i checked all spelling before posting really dont know where you found misspelled words
another thing is that i cannot find google magazines but i can find google books witch is just ridiculous... i want to throw out.
google is in everything they make incoherent and lackish.
i have no idea what is so hard about it but apple seems to be the only electronics company out there that can be trusted trully.
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Why are you taking this as an attack? For your information, I don't even own a gaming console. Obviously you're not checking your spelling well enough. Anyway, All those app stores don't tie into each other because they don't share records. I really don't see what the point of this thread was to be honest.
If you're really that dissatisfied quit complaining and go to an iPhone and deal with the issues they have.

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i checked all spelling before posting really dont know where you found misspelled words
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well yeah, if you knew which were misspelled you probably would've fixed 'em when initially typing.
Here's some help though:
adrovic.ad said:
hy,
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should be "Hi" with an I.
adrovic.ad said:
streetfighter 4 instead witch i cannot
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Technically that's spelled correctly, but the word you want is "which" not witch.
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witch appears on my mobile.
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Again... which.
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the most retarded thing about this hole thing
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Again, correct, yet wrong. "whole" not "hole".
adrovic.ad said:
on the google app store when i use the search embeded in the store app.
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Embedded.
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HOLE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT
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WHOLE.
adrovic.ad said:
you can see also within each store itselt.
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itself. With an F.
adrovic.ad said:
I SO REGREAD BUYING THE S4
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REGRET
All those app stores don't tie into each other because they don't share records.
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This is the reason I think he's mad. Like only having repos to discover there are other things out there. Wonder how he'd flip on windows lol
adrovic.ad said:
these dudes dont even care to make a unique standard for everyone to follow
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Android is about Open Source. Unlike macs proprietary world, android wants you to have the freedom of choice. Unfortunately this means everyone wants to be a choice. There's no reason to try out a million markets. You can usually find what you need in 1. If not, use a search engine, not other markets. Just easier that way.
adrovic.ad said:
CAN ANYONE JUST BELIEVE THIS CRAP I CANT FOR SUR... and the thing why I cant believe it is because it is like the easyest thing to do.
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like spell "sure" and "easiest"?
Lol, sorry, couldn't help myself.
The reason (again) why you might get better sound quality on apple products is because that's 1 company. Android has a ton of different people all trying to be better than the last guy. So they change the way streams sent or how hardware renders or they make a cheap product to make a quick buck. That's a free world, where people are allowed to be cheated, but also where they are allowed to go elsewhere.
Remember, if you own apple...
Apple owns YOU!
adrovic.ad said:
Last videogame I played on pc, I couldnt setup the freacking controls for my gamepad right LIKE IF THATS A BIG DEAL ... ****ING MONKEYS
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This is about windows now?
The best thing to do if you're having trouble is ask. No need to rant or attack companies that aren't reading this.
Just say "hey guys, having trouble finding this for my device which is s4 for this provider. Btw I'm in <country name>, thanks"
This'll help you find what you need.
Also, if you're confused about why markets don't seem synced, ask "how come phone play store shows x apps and web store on pc shows y?"
We're glad to help, but you gotta make the problem clear and not sound like we're telemarketers who called you at dinnertime

adrovic.ad said:
Thats exactly right my friend these dudes dont even care to make a unique standard for everyone to follow like if thats a problem they cant handle ... just that we are stupid and buy their crap. I made that mistake the last time I cant believe I got myself convinced that android could be even close to apple even the sound quality is superb on iphone earpieses CAN ANYONE JUST BELIEVE THIS CRAP I CANT FOR SUR... and the thing why I cant believe it is because it is like the easyest thing to do.
Last videogame I played on pc, I couldnt setup the freacking controls for my gamepad right LIKE IF THATS A BIG DEAL ... ****ING MONKEYS
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It's not that they don't it's that they can't. They released Android as an open source project for anyone to use as they see fit. Besides if they attempted to dictate to companies how they had to build their phones and that they all had to be clones of all the others then no one would make them. It is because they're allowed to make their phones they way they want that Android based phones hold more market share than the iPhone.

Murasaki no Kaze said:
well yeah, if you knew which were misspelled you probably would've fixed 'em when initially typing.
Here's some help though:
should be "Hi" with an I.
Technically that's spelled correctly, but the word you want is "which" not witch.
Again... which.
Again, correct, yet wrong. "whole" not "hole".
Embedded.
WHOLE.
itself. With an F.
REGRET
This is the reason I think he's mad. Like only having repos to discover there are other things out there. Wonder how he'd flip on windows lol
Android is about Open Source. Unlike macs proprietary world, android wants you to have the freedom of choice. Unfortunately this means everyone wants to be a choice. There's no reason to try out a million markets. You can usually find what you need in 1. If not, use a search engine, not other markets. Just easier that way.
like spell "sure" and "easiest"?
Lol, sorry, couldn't help myself.
The reason (again) why you might get better sound quality on apple products is because that's 1 company. Android has a ton of different people all trying to be better than the last guy. So they change the way streams sent or how hardware renders or they make a cheap product to make a quick buck. That's a free world, where people are allowed to be cheated, but also where they are allowed to go elsewhere.
Remember, if you own apple...
Apple owns YOU!
This is about windows now?
The best thing to do if you're having trouble is ask. No need to rant or attack companies that aren't reading this.
Just say "hey guys, having trouble finding this for my device which is s4 for this provider. Btw I'm in <country name>, thanks"
This'll help you find what you need.
Also, if you're confused about why markets don't seem synced, ask "how come phone play store shows x apps and web store on pc shows y?"
We're glad to help, but you gotta make the problem clear and not sound like we're telemarketers who called you at dinnertime
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youve got to be a WIERDO noticeing all this small errors wich noone even cares.
the next time i draw pictures for you so everything is clear for you, youve got to read between the lines my friend to get to the real problem.
i believe thats why you bought an android in the first please because youre so surfacing all the time and dont get to the point.
what is that fraze supposed to mean i really wounder APPLE OWNS YOU, maybe they restrict me somehow? i dont know but i know that google restricts me with their crap inconsistent system and if they cant even make their own software nice than its not a problem with cross platforming.
if they compete with each other then they should make thinks better not worse I MEAN WHERE DID YOU PEOPLE LIVE... ON THE MOON?
AGAIN THE ONLY COMPANY OUT THERE THAT IS COMMERCIAL ... AVAILABLE TO ANYONE IS APPLE
if you think youre free because you can edit the system files on your phone then are you blind as a rat .. thats exactly why you are more constrained.
you have the choice to design stuff for example the UI. like anyone is capable to design thinks as they like, at the end they design crap for sure.
look on the other hand at ios 7 BEAUTIFUL i dont want to change a thing on that one ITS SECURE ITS BEAUTIFUL ITS MOST IMPORTANT ITS COHERENT.
APPLE RULES.
THEY PUT A QUALLCOM PROCESSOR IN THE S4 BUT AS THE DID WITH THE OTHER SOFTWARE THEY HAVE I BET THE CORE SOFTWARE ON THE ANDROID IS JUST AS FULL OF UNBELIEVABLE BULL**** MISTAKES AS EVERYWHERE ELSE AND I BET THESE EAT BATTERY LIFE AS WELL.
for example i wouldn't be surprised with this idiots considering their WORK so far, that android does not communicate with all wifi routes the same way it maybe BRAND DEPENDENT PFFFF.
unbelievable idiots but again what a contrast to apple like apple is the only serious company out there

adrovic.ad said:
youve got to be a WIERDO noticeing all this small errors wich noone even cares.
the next time i draw pictures for you so everything is clear for you, youve got to read between the lines my friend to get to the real problem.
i believe thats why you bought an android in the first please because youre so surfacing all the time and dont get to the point.
what is that fraze supposed to mean i really wounder APPLE OWNS YOU, maybe they restrict me somehow? i dont know but i know that google restricts me with their crap inconsistent system and if they cant even make their own software nice than its not a problem with cross platforming.
if they compete with each other then they should make thinks better not worse I MEAN WHERE DID YOU PEOPLE LIVE... ON THE MOON?
AGAIN THE ONLY COMPANY OUT THERE THAT IS COMMERCIAL ... AVAILABLE TO ANYONE IS APPLE
if you think youre free because you can edit the system files on your phone then are you blind as a rat .. thats exactly why you are more constrained.
you have the choice to design stuff for example the UI. like anyone is capable to design thinks as they like, at the end they design crap for sure.
look on the other hand at ios 7 BEAUTIFUL i dont want to change a thing on that one ITS SECURE ITS BEAUTIFUL ITS MOST IMPORTANT ITS COHERENT.
APPLE RULES.
THEY PUT A QUALLCOM PROCESSOR IN THE S4 BUT AS THE DID WITH THE OTHER SOFTWARE THEY HAVE I BET THE CORE SOFTWARE ON THE ANDROID IS JUST AS FULL OF UNBELIEVABLE BULL**** MISTAKES AS EVERYWHERE ELSE AND I BET THESE EAT BATTERY LIFE AS WELL.
for example i wouldn't be surprised with this idiots considering their WORK so far, that android does not communicate with all wifi routes the same way it maybe BRAND DEPENDENT PFFFF.
unbelievable idiots but again what a contrast to apple like apple is the only serious company out there
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So you don't want help? Just to complain and promote apple?
Few things:
1. Yes, I am weird, I am OCD, I see things that as you said "no one cares about". I understand how little things can be important. Like how people will value your opinion based on the coherency of your delivery. If me no comprende, then me no nintendo.
2. My understanding of how important the little things are is what prompted me to purchase an android. You think you can't edit system files in apple products? Of course you can. It's not about being able to change the look of my phone. It's about being able to choose to do as I see fit, whether that's change the look, functionality or whatever else occurs to me.
3. By the phrase "apple owns you" what I mean to say is that in purchasing an apple product, you must purchase other apple products which will only be compatible with other apple products. In purchasing their equipment you've lost the freedom of choice. It's all apple. Headphones? Apple. Laptop? Apple. Mp3 player? Apple. Repair shop? Apple. Music player? Apple. Software? Apple.
Android can be used with whatever you prefer. Samsung, sony, htc, etc. The list goes on. This is why I prefer open source. It's about not being stuck in a loop and not being a walking advertisement for products that have been pushed on me rather then those I've selected because I like.
4. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That means that different people find different things beautiful. Look at some of the theme forums. Some are incredible, others are meh. To me. Not to the people that are downloading them and loving it.
This is why you think android is worse? Because it doesn't force itself on you? Have you tried windows? They're also commercial and available to everyone. You want something better, check out aosp. That's Android Open Source Project. There you will find much innovation and improvement. It's not android fighting against itself. It's companies trying to make android their own thing for their own reasons. Customer loyalty to what's familiar, a similar experience with their own brand name products.
You ask if we live on the moon for not getting away from that...
Have you even looked at this forum?
Most of what you will find here is about getting away from what all these companies are pushing on their customers. Why do you think people root? Replace roms? Kernels? All these things so we can get the experience that WE want from our devices. Not what the companies have deemed we should have.
You praise apple as the only serious company out there? Either you are gravely misinformed, blissfully ignorant or you're simply trolling.
Have you seen some of the battery performances on this forum? They're ridiculously awesome!
It's not android adding the bloatware, it's the devices manufacturers. Samsung adds Its app and launcher and whatever it wants to its devices, as does every other company out there. They made it, they can sell it how they want.
Apple's done an incredible job, it's come a long way, but it monopolizes itself. That is the only thing I don't like about apple, and is reason enough for me to never purchase their products.
I wouldn't allow such ideology in any other aspect of my life, why would I in this?
If apple makes you happy, great, grab yourself a variant of iphone and live the happy comfortable life of the conformist. Like a consumer slave, nothing to worry about when the masters choose for you

Murasaki no Kaze said:
So you don't want help? Just to complain and promote apple?
Few things:
1. Yes, I am weird, I am OCD, I see things that as you said "no one cares about". I understand how little things can be important. Like how people will value your opinion based on the coherency of your delivery. If me no comprende, then me no nintendo.
2. My understanding of how important the little things are is what prompted me to purchase an android. You think you can't edit system files in apple products? Of course you can. It's not about being able to change the look of my phone. It's about being able to choose to do as I see fit, whether that's change the look, functionality or whatever else occurs to me.
3. By the phrase "apple owns you" what I mean to say is that in purchasing an apple product, you must purchase other apple products which will only be compatible with other apple products. In purchasing their equipment you've lost the freedom of choice. It's all apple. Headphones? Apple. Laptop? Apple. Mp3 player? Apple. Repair shop? Apple. Music player? Apple. Software? Apple.
Android can be used with whatever you prefer. Samsung, sony, htc, etc. The list goes on. This is why I prefer open source. It's about not being stuck in a loop and not being a walking advertisement for products that have been pushed on me rather then those I've selected because I like.
4. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That means that different people find different things beautiful. Look at some of the theme forums. Some are incredible, others are meh. To me. Not to the people that are downloading them and loving it.
This is why you think android is worse? Because it doesn't force itself on you? Have you tried windows? They're also commercial and available to everyone. You want something better, check out aosp. That's Android Open Source Project. There you will find much innovation and improvement. It's not android fighting against itself. It's companies trying to make android their own thing for their own reasons. Customer loyalty to what's familiar, a similar experience with their own brand name products.
You ask if we live on the moon for not getting away from that...
Have you even looked at this forum?
Most of what you will find here is about getting away from what all these companies are pushing on their customers. Why do you think people root? Replace roms? Kernels? All these things so we can get the experience that WE want from our devices. Not what the companies have deemed we should have.
You praise apple as the only serious company out there? Either you are gravely misinformed, blissfully ignorant or you're simply trolling.
Have you seen some of the battery performances on this forum? They're ridiculously awesome!
It's not android adding the bloatware, it's the devices manufacturers. Samsung adds Its app and launcher and whatever it wants to its devices, as does every other company out there. They made it, they can sell it how they want.
Apple's done an incredible job, it's come a long way, but it monopolizes itself. That is the only thing I don't like about apple, and is reason enough for me to never purchase their products.
I wouldn't allow such ideology in any other aspect of my life, why would I in this?
If apple makes you happy, great, grab yourself a variant of iphone and live the happy comfortable life of the conformist. Like a consumer slave, nothing to worry about when the masters choose for you
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you got some good points there but.. apple ipad i the best apple earpods are the best apple laptops are the best so why would i want to choose something else.
i gurantee you that aple knows that the policy about their products is takeing them a bit portion of the market BUT they dont see any other way to guarantee you quality.
and the reason people change so much firmware is .. bad android on ios i wouldnt even want to change anything nor do i care to do things other than intended.
best way to save yourself from bad products is not to even get them and not buy them and then try to change them...

adrovic.ad said:
apple ipad i the best
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I disagree.
adrovic.ad said:
apple earpods are the best
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I disagree.
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apple laptops are the best
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so why would i want to choose something else.
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That's really the question here, I feel; why did you get something besides an apple product in the first place if you are so sold on the apple systems? Clearly there was something about apple you didn't like enough that you ended up getting an android phone instead. You can't argue that apple is the only good choice since after all - you yourself admitted it wasn't by choosing something else in this instance.
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best way to save yourself from bad products is not to even get them
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That's absolute correct. Feel free to only buy great products in the future, even though you for some strange reason decided to buy something you considered "not great" in this case, and then came to a forum dedicated to changing it to complain about your mistake.
We're very sorry you don't appreciate the phone you bought. The simple solution is to sell it to someone who does and get an iphone instead. iPhones are great products, no doubt, and apparently they are perfect for what you need!
Good luck!

adrovic.ad said:
youve got to be a WIERDO noticeing all this small errors wich noone even cares.
unbelievable idiots but again what a contrast to apple like apple is the only serious company out there
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first u challenged people to find yr spelling mistakes...then u called people a weirdo when corrected. guess I am a weirdo too.
then u called people idiots...wonder who is the idiot here...sigh
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i gurantee you that aple knows...
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now u even stand guarantee for aple

This guy's either a complete moron or a troll and this thread should be locked either way. He obviously isn't here looking for help but to just bash on Android with an "I'm holier then thou" kind of attitude. If you love Apple so much how bout you just stfu and go find someone with an iPhone 5 that wants a S4 and trade with them if you can't exchange it where you bought it for one.

Posted on the GS4 forum too...and got flamed. Just a troll, IMHO!!
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I like how the name ends in ".ad" almost as if he's flaunting his sheephood

DoctorProctor said:
Posted on the GS4 forum too...and got flamed. Just a troll, IMHO!!
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Actually, I don't think the OP is a troll - he is a frustrated user venting in the wrong place to the wrong people. The OP is mad because he is used to the "it just works" feeling that Apple provides. I can relate to his feelings.
I carried an iPhone for awhile. A 4S. And although I prefer my Android by far, there are a few things that Apple simply does better than anyone. One of them is quality control. As an example, "drive mode" on my current i537. On my S2 I used this all the time. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. No rhyme or reason except buggy Samsung software. When I got my i537, I figured they *must* have fixed drive mode by now... I was wrong. Two years and two versions later it *still* only works only when it feels like it. Apple *usually* would never ship such shoddy software (yes, I know about the maps fiasco, but that is an exception, not the rule with them). There are many other stupid little Samsung bugs on our phone. It is frustrating to have a device that would be just about perfect if they spent a little more time on quality control. I mean, I found some of these bugs less than an hour after booting up my phone for the first time. Makes me wonder how much testing Samsung actually did with this phone before they started shipping...

That's what I thought at first, but instead of explaining his situation clearly (what he's looking for, what he's seeing) and actually asking for help he increases the animosity in his posts and adopts an "apple rulez you droolz!!!" attitude. That's when I decided he was a troll.
If he'd be clearer than "this sucks! Me no understand! I hate you bye!" Maybe he'd get a little more help. He's obviously never seen beyond what's in front of his nose and instead of trying to understand, he becomes angry. I can understand frustration, but there's no need to attack members, companies or anyone for that matter. If you don't understand something, you research, analyze, try a different angle and see what you learn. Not cry about it to whoever happens to stroll by.

IMissPalmOS said:
Actually, I don't think the OP is a troll - he is a frustrated user venting in the wrong place to the wrong people. The OP is mad because he is used to the "it just works" feeling that Apple provides. I can relate to his feelings.
I carried an iPhone for awhile. A 4S. And although I prefer my Android by far, there are a few things that Apple simply does better than anyone. One of them is quality control. As an example, "drive mode" on my current i537. On my S2 I used this all the time. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. No rhyme or reason except buggy Samsung software. When I got my i537, I figured they *must* have fixed drive mode by now... I was wrong. Two years and two versions later it *still* only works only when it feels like it. Apple *usually* would never ship such shoddy software (yes, I know about the maps fiasco, but that is an exception, not the rule with them). There are many other stupid little Samsung bugs on our phone. It is frustrating to have a device that would be just about perfect if they spent a little more time on quality control. I mean, I found some of these bugs less than an hour after booting up my phone for the first time. Makes me wonder how much testing Samsung actually did with this phone before they started shipping...
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exactly right friend but just think that if you can see already so many flaws on the surface just by booting up just think how many flaws there must be on the core programs, making youre device maybe vulnerable for attacks most of them noone probably notices because all google cares about is making things stable not necessarily right.
i just cant believe that even today only one company can be taken for serious and thats apple, i dont think that there has ever been a situation on any market in the world ever in history of mankind ... in economy that nobody cares to deliver a quality product besides one company but that everybody makes profit.
android is just a big prank that keeps itself on the surface by making false promises talking about functionality where there is basicly not so much functionality as they promise.
but what goes completely out of bounds and i cant understand at all is that this is absolutely no problem to fix.
software economy has obviously taken its own dynamic, going on a thin rope of false statements and cheap production i guess.
i have been in egypt this year for holiday and i would never go there again, but still i meet there people that came there for the 5th time i just couldn't believe my mind anymore ... unbelievable.
same counts for android some people just see the obvious and some just like crappy stuff maybe they like to suffer.. makes them feel better.

Like I said, I know how you feel. I'm a perfectionist myself and don't understand either why Samsung doesn't go just a bit further with their testing to work out some of the obvious bugs and flaws in their software. But what you or I might want is unfortunately irrelevant. Samsung hasn't asked for my opinion thus far, and I'd doubt they will anytime soon. So... We get to chose between Apple's relentless pursuit of perfection inside their strictly controlled "walled garden", or the "Wild West" of the Samsung/Android world. I'll take the later, bugs and all. If you chose to do the same, there are people here who will go far out of their way to help you with any issues that come up and only ask for coherency and politeness in return. Give it a try...

Apparently the new face unlock isn’t as secure as google made it sound like

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50085630
Google's Pixel 4 support website tells customers: "Your phone can also be unlocked by someone else if it's held up to your face, even if your eyes are closed." Wow
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What kind of people or friends are you around that this is that big of a deal?
I'm sure, in a couple of updates you will probably be able to toggle that setting on or off..

Exel said:
What kind of people or friends are you around that this is that big of a deal?
I'm sure, in a couple of updates you will probably be able to toggle that setting on or off..
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Hahahahahahah. A secure biometric is supposed to be secure for a reason.
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A fix is in the works AFAIK

Are you being paid to **** on the Pixel 4? The amount of threads you're making strictly to damage this device is astounding.

Alcolawl said:
Are you being paid to **** on the Pixel 4? The amount of threads you're making strictly to damage this device is astounding.
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He's just expressing his "opinion" . lol. It really reminds me of the Sammy folks and not the iPhone crowd. They usually don't care that much because it's such a different platform. I mean there's friendly banter back and forth but not the animosity of Samsung users. I am beginning to wonder if his iPhone sig is bogus. But being paid? I never really thought of that but I suppose it's a possibility. We might want to duck incoming flames unless he moved on to another forum.
When are you expecting your phone? I'm showing a date of October 23 - 25 but I know that slips sometimes.

bobby janow said:
He's just expressing his "opinion" . lol. It really reminds me of the Sammy folks and not the iPhone crowd. They usually don't care that much because it's such a different platform. I mean there's friendly banter back and forth but not the animosity of Samsung users. I am beginning to wonder if his iPhone sig is bogus. But being paid? I never really thought of that but I suppose it's a possibility. We might want to duck incoming flames unless he moved on to another forum.
When are you expecting your phone? I'm showing a date of October 23 - 25 but I know that slips sometimes.
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Hah, yeah now that you mention it, it does remind me of Samsung trolls. Their ferocity in voicing their hatred of competing devices is unparalleled.
Google Fi says I should receive my phone by October 24-25. I expect it to be on time. If I remember correctly my Nexus 5X and OG Pixel were right on time. I honestly can't wait, this G7 is miserable.

Guys....don't feed him....
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So this is a pixel 4 thread and while I’m speaking on the device, you guys are busy speaking about me [emoji23]. Who is t he troll?
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barondebxl said:
So this is a pixel 4 thread and while I’m speaking on the device, you guys are busy speaking about me [emoji23]. Who is t he troll?
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If there is anyone who is not a troll in this Pixel 4 forum, is you. You have devoted your last days to this Pixel 4 forum, you opened topics and posted probably more than anyone here.
So yeah, your are probably the user with more love for this phone in the forum.
But you are angry, like you were betrayed by the phone, because it doesn't tick all the boxes you want. And this is completely normal.
However, because of this anger, all your posts are 100% negative. There is not even a single positiveness, 0 balance. This puts your credibility at stake. (This is not normal).
And this is what I meant by not feeding you. It's pointless because you will keep using your time talking negative about the Pixel 4 and that's a waste of time.
Anyway, to put something "on topic" (because 99% of this thread and post are about you, and not the Pixel 4, and nobody enjoys or cares about that).
It seems this issue will be fixed in the future:
https://9to5google.com/2019/10/20/pixel-4-face-unlock-eyes/
This could take 1 month or much more. We don't know, but at least is what we got.
To me (subjective part of the post) this flaw is not critical and knowing that this will be fixed in the future, makes this much less of an issue.
The only person who has access to the phone while I'm sleeping is my lady. But she also knows my PIN so she could unlock the phone without interacting with me.
Let's put another example: If I'm sleeping in a Chalet with people I don't 100% know. I can always enable "Lockdown" before going to sleep.
But if it was critical for me and I need an upgrade urgently, then I'd move on to another phone and that's it.

thesebastian said:
If there is anyone who is not a troll in this Pixel 4 forum, is you. You have devoted your last days to this Pixel 4 forum, you opened topics and posted probably more than anyone here.
So yeah, your are probably the user with more love for this phone in the forum.
But you are angry, like you were betrayed by the phone, because it doesn't tick all the boxes you want. And this is completely normal.
However, because of this anger, all your posts are 100% negative. There is not even a single positiveness, 0 balance. This puts your credibility at stake. (This is not normal).
And this is what I meant by not feeding you. It's pointless because you will keep using your time talking negative about the Pixel 4 and that's a waste of time.
Anyway, to put something "on topic" (because 99% of this thread and post are about you, and not the Pixel 4, and nobody enjoys or cares about that).
It seems this issue will be fixed in the future:
https://9to5google.com/2019/10/20/pixel-4-face-unlock-eyes/
This could take 1 month or much more. We don't know, but at least is what we got.
To me (subjective part of the post) this flaw is not critical and knowing that this will be fixed in the future, makes this much less of an issue.
The only person who has access to the phone while I'm sleeping is my lady. But she also knows my PIN so she could unlock the phone without interacting with me.
Let's put another example: If I'm sleeping in a Chalet with people I don't 100% know. I can always enable "Lockdown" before going to sleep.
But if it was critical for me and I need an upgrade urgently, then I'd move on to another phone and that's it.
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Blah blah blah blah blah. I didn’t bother reading your whole post.
I’m not angry but if you feel like I am and that makes you feel good then run with it. I’ll keep talking about the pixel and you can keep on talking about me
I keep opening threads about the phone, 2 of them, and I’m getting more attention from you guys then any other threads. I wonder why
This phone would have been decent if it was priced lower than it is. I made my statements and have my point of view. If you don’t like it then you’re the one who’s gonna keep on getting angry. It’s easy, ignore this thread and pretend it doesn’t exist, you’ll be okay. You don’t have to defend this device or tell me to buy another phone if I don’t like this one. I’ve been on xda for years so I’ve seen it all with you sensitive little men. Don’t go to YouTube to read comments about the pixel 4 if this thread pissed you off this much, you might have a heart attack cause it’s bad how ppl are bashing this device. And rightfully so. It is what it is
It’s still a security risk. They shouldn’t ship a phone like this in the first place, it’s supposed to be secure. Also you can’t use it for logging to bank apps and stuff as of yet which sucks. We’ll see how that goes.
The pixel 4xl is cool, the pixel 4 is robbery.
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Ok good to hear that everything is clarified
Cheers
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I'm not a proponent of one security measures over the other.
I don't see the security risk any different than a finger print scanner. Someone could just as easily place a sleeping person's finger to the scanner. There's a likely an increase in waking the person up by touching them but not guaranteed. If you've been drinking or partying the person probably wouldn't be woke up.

thesebastian said:
Ok good to hear that everything is clarified
Cheers
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Cheers.
As far as the face unlock security issue, the patch is due “in the coming months” according to the verge.
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ibsk8 said:
I'm not a proponent of one security measures over the other.
I don't see the security risk any different than a finger print scanner. Someone could just as easily place a sleeping person's finger to the scanner. There's a likely an increase in waking the person up by touching them but not guaranteed. If you've been drinking or partying the person probably wouldn't be woke up.
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I don’t know about that. The fingerprint sensor on the galaxy series can be finicky even though it’s secured. Sometimes it requires a couple of tries. And yes you have more chances on waking the person up by trying to get into their phone like that. But that is besides the point. I’m sure if someone tries hard enough they could get into your phone, that doesn’t mean you have to make it easier for them.
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barondebxl said:
I don’t know about that. The fingerprint sensor on the galaxy series can be finicky even though it’s secured. Sometimes it requires a couple of tries. And yes you have more chances on waking the person up by trying to get into their phone like that. But that is besides the point. I’m sure if someone tries hard enough they could get into your phone, that doesn’t mean you have to make it easier for them.
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For many, I'm sure , the fingerprint scanner or face unlock aren't deemed 'secure' enough and will just continue to use a secure pin.
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I don’t know about that. The fingerprint sensor on the galaxy series can be finicky even though it’s secured. Sometimes it requires a couple of tries. And yes you have more chances on waking the person up by trying to get into their phone like that. But that is besides the point. I’m sure if someone tries hard enough they could get into your phone, that doesn’t mean you have to make it easier for them.
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For many, I'm sure , the fingerprint scanner or face unlock aren't deemed 'secure' enough and will just continue to use a secure pin. Each person has a different security model that fits their security needs. For the vast majority of the smartphone owning population, fingerprint or face unlock technology is secure enough for them.
As you pointed out in a previous post : "I’m sure if someone tries hard enough they could get into your phone, that doesn’t mean you have to make it easier for them."
Fingerprint is a step down from a secure PIN and can be spoofed via various methods. Face unlock is a step down from a secure PIN and can be spoofed via various methods.
When faced with the decision between fingerprint and face unlock it will be a fair trade off from a security standpoint.
If security is of a major priority a strong PIN would be my suggestion.

Two things.
First, if you live in a situation where you fear for the safety of your possessions and/or physical privacy violations to the point that you cannot sleep without worry, you have a greater problem. If you think you have a significant risk of being knocked unconscious for your digital data or you may be killed for access to your phone, you need to examine your lifestyle. If you are that worried you should be using a passcode. Period.
Secondly, commenters on forums and blogs who are hyperbolic in their support or detraction of consumer products make me EXTREMELY suspicious. For almost a decade companies paying for FUD campaigns in the consumer space has been occuring, and gets cheaper and more voluminous everyday.
I urge everyone to use their heads and read about things from proven reviewers. Consider your individual needs and make the decision that's right for YOU. On the internet if someone posts that a product is "terrible", "horrible", "ripoff", "worthless", "trash", or "the worst" just because things like; certain features need improvement, or because the device isn't at a certain price point, be suspicious of the source.
I've been doing tech (professionally and privately) for a loooong time and it's obvious when something else is at play beyond an "opinion" whether it be professional or private.

Dusty Rhodes said:
Two things.
First, if you live in a situation where you fear for the safety of your possessions and/or physical privacy violations to the point that you cannot sleep without worry, you have a greater problem. If you think you have a significant risk of being knocked unconscious for your digital data or you may be killed for access to your phone, you need to examine your lifestyle. If you are that worried you should be using a passcode. Period.
Secondly, commenters on forums and blogs who are hyperbolic in their support or detraction of consumer products make me EXTREMELY suspicious. For almost a decade companies paying for FUD campaigns in the consumer space has been occuring, and gets cheaper and more voluminous everyday.
I urge everyone to use their heads and read about things from proven reviewers. Consider your individual needs and make the decision that's right for YOU. On the internet if someone posts that a product is "terrible", "horrible", "ripoff", "worthless", "trash", or "the worst" just because things like; certain features need improvement, or because the device isn't at a certain price point, be suspicious of the source.
I've been doing tech (professionally and privately) for a loooong time and it's obvious when something else is at play beyond an "opinion" whether it be professional or private.
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Bravo, you got me I’m a paid Samsung employee! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] that’s your “professional “ opinion hahahahahha I swear to God I’m laughing so hard right now.
Well I guess there’s no need for biometric security. I’m in fear of physical violation and I cannot sleep without worry, you sir are better than Sherlock Holmes, you have totally discovered me!
Let’s switch gears, Here’s a good article about the pixel 4 battery life:
https://www.droid-life.com/2019/10/21/pixel-4-battery-life/
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Glad you're so happy about... umm whatever.
Obviously you have a problem with anything Pixel related and have a bone to pick. I'll quote myself, "It's obvious when something else is at play..."
Good luck in your search. Don't bother replying you're on my ignore list.

Dusty Rhodes said:
Glad you're so happy about... umm whatever.
Obviously you have a problem with anything Pixel related and have a bone to pick. I'll quote myself, "It's obvious when something else is at play..."
Good luck in your search. Don't bother replying you're on my ignore list.
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