I just recently received some warnings from screen overlay that tells me that my memory is very low- 90% used. It asks me to clear or cancel. I always use task manager to free up ram on my own terms, but never received this warning for months. The most recent utility I have installed is Avast, and I am running stock ROM and not rooted. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this pop up warning? I've done a couple resets (strangely my Note has started to reboot on its item lately). Could Avast be causing some kind of conflict?
gman901 said:
I just recently received some warnings from screen overlay that tells me that my memory is very low- 90% used. It asks me to clear or cancel. I always use task manager to free up ram on my own terms, but never received this warning for months. The most recent utility I have installed is Avast, and I am running stock ROM and not rooted. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this pop up warning? I've done a couple resets (strangely my Note has started to reboot on its item lately). Could Avast be causing some kind of conflict?
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Maybe pop up reminds you not about your RAM, about phone memory ?
gman901 said:
I just recently received some warnings from screen overlay that tells me that my memory is very low- 90% used. It asks me to clear or cancel. I always use task manager to free up ram on my own terms, but never received this warning for months. The most recent utility I have installed is Avast, and I am running stock ROM and not rooted. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this pop up warning? I've done a couple resets (strangely my Note has started to reboot on its item lately). Could Avast be causing some kind of conflict?
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That's a normal low-memory dialog. It comes from either Avast or Go Task Manager ( or any other task manager ). I don't remember stock task manager to give any pop-ups. It simply tells you that your phone has used most of it's RAM memory.
Nothing to worry about, just let Android manage it's RAM the way it wants to do it. As soon as another app will need more memory, Android will clear some for it. So unless you're getting apps crashing with "out of memory" messages, you're fine.
If you want to, you can clear your memory by rebooting or using task manager - but as soon as you clear it, apps will load back in few minutes - becaue frankly that's what RAM is for.
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My Tytn II has developed an annoying slowdown over the last few days and it's getting on my wick. I have no applications running, 54Mb of storage memory and 52Mb of program memory and yet every key press takes at least 10 seconds to respond, screen redraws are a nightmare and answering the phone is impossible because it refuses to accept button presses in time.
Clearly something is hogging the processor, but how can I find out what it is? Is there a WM equivalent of the windows Task manager that shows CPU and memory usage on the device in realtime?
I'm loathe to do a hard reset because I really don't want the hassle of reinstalling everything again.
Thanks for any assistance.
Lee.
Try this freeware app, Task Manager. It will show all processess and apps like Windows.
Can't upload as I only use RAR and it's not supported now all of a sudden.
dot fred task manager is what you want to google for.
AFAIK, .RAR attachments never worked, must be thinking of another forum...
not sure if it's related but when mine slows down l just clear the temp internet files.
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not sure if it's related but when mine slows down l just clear the temp internet files.
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That was the first thing I did and it made no difference. As I said I have plenty of storage and app memory left
Also tried Task Manager, which showed no rogue processes and the system idle process was active at about 80-90%, so that showed nothing either.
I've been deleting stuff all weekend to see if there was a dodgy app but nothing has made any difference so far. I'm going to bite the bullet and do a hard reset combined with a 6.1 firmware upgrade to make some use of it.
Tch
LeeJS said:
That was the first thing I did and it made no difference. As I said I have plenty of storage and app memory left
Also tried Task Manager, which showed no rogue processes and the system idle process was active at about 80-90%, so that showed nothing either.
I've been deleting stuff all weekend to see if there was a dodgy app but nothing has made any difference so far. I'm going to bite the bullet and do a hard reset combined with a 6.1 firmware upgrade to make some use of it.
Tch
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U may try something like SKTools or memmaid, they have some clean-up functions. The sktools have a function to free up your RAM. Its worth checking.
Can't see why this is the case (but it obviously is) as long as I have lots of free disk space and not many apps running at the same time. Any logic in this?
I've been experiencing the same issue and wondering the same thing...
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There seems to be several things causing this, but the two key issues are:
The moviNAND (the internal flash drive/"SSD") firmware seems to have an issue with fsync() taking extremely long. E.g., it slows down whenever a file is written/updated on the internal storage.
RFS, the file system used by Samsung is buggy as hell and corrupts data after a while.
There are several topics on these issues in the Android Development forum. There are also several "lag fixes" trying their best to overcome these issues. Go check them out
Einride said:
There seems to be several things causing this, but the two key issues are:
RFS, the file system used by Samsung is buggy as hell and corrupts data after a while.
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We have no idea if that is ACTUALLY true.. Just because fsck picked some things up on 1 phone, doesn't mean it happens everywhere.. Furthermore, it doesn't mean the problems detected affect operations
that has no truth at all about more apps slowing down the phone, my phone is the prove
Before jpk i didn't noticed slowdowns with aprox 100 apps, now i do on jpk =/
Prolly that all pictures/links/info stays in his workmemory?
probably cause some of them run in the system memory or run at startup
KaliKot said:
probably cause some of them run in the system memory or run at startup
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Bingo!
and that is what most people does not realize
they need to Optimize the phone, most people take it for granted
the phone is not a phone, the phone is a mini computer that fits in your hands
just like your big desktop PC it can go crazy if you don't take care of it
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Bingo!
and that is what most people does not realize
they need to Optimize the phone, most people take it for granted
the phone is not a phone, the phone is a mini computer that fits in your hands
just like your big desktop PC it can go crazy if you don't take care of it
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Can you tell me why with the same apps installed on the Nexus it doesn't lag like the SGS?
Can you stop blaming users when is the phone which doesn't work as expected?
Oletros said:
Can you tell me why with the same apps installed on the Nexus it doesn't lag like the SGS?
Can you stop blaming users when is the phone which doesn't work as expected?
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utter ****e -i have well over 100 apps on my sgs and experience NO lag whatsoever!
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utter ****e -i have well over 100 apps on my sgs and experience NO lag whatsoever!
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Utter ****e? Why?
it was mentioned many many times
just install autorunkiller and a good task manager then all the problems will be gone
stock ROM is very fast when you maintain the phone
AllGamer said:
it was mentioned many many times
just install autorunkiller and a good task manager then all the problems will be gone
stock ROM is very fast when you maintain the phone
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With autokiller the phone is still laggy.
And please, stop thinking I'm stupid or I don't know a **** about smartphones, ROM's changing, firmware or knowing how a phone must run.
AFAIK this topic and its responses are for the OP
I have about 190 Apps installed and do not experience any diferene in overall speed of the phone. But only because i know that a lot of the programms start on boot and stay in background.
I have more than 15 apps turned off with the full version of autorun killer to prevent the auto restart of the apps. Otherwise the phone would definetaly slow down.
It´s really incredible what apps start on the boot!
TMReuffurth said:
I have about 190 Apps installed and do not experience any diferene in overall speed of the phone. But only because i know that a lot of the programms start on boot and stay in background.
I have more than 15 apps turned off with the full version of autorun killer to prevent the auto restart of the apps. Otherwise the phone would definetaly slow down.
It´s really incredible what apps start on the boot!
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Do you need to be rooted ti use all of the functions in autorun killer? I am not rooted.
Can you compile a breif list of the "biggest culprits" to stop with this utility to gain back the most speed and efficiency? I am a bit nervous that I will stop the wrong items and somehow damage my phone...
Autokiller and task killers are not the solution here! Quick lesson on Android, and why having even A SINGLE BAD APP is going to ruin your whole phone!
Android has something called an 'Intent'. In order to start an app, an intent is made by your launcher or a button you press, and the Android system reads this intent and works out what app it needs to start up.
There is a second type of intent though, called a 'Broadcast Intent'. This is an intent that is sent out to anything that is registered to listen to it. This means that an app can register to listen to all sorts of events, such as battery level changed, application start, or a tons of other things. Even if the application is closed, if it is registered as a listener, Android will start it right back up so it can deal with the intent. If the intent comes every 5 seconds, Android will run this app every 5 seconds even if you have a taskkiller killing the app.
The only real solution is to not install apps which are bad! Finding bad apps is a real mission, too. Hopefully in the future, utilities will be available to let us track down these terrible apps, but till then, you'll have to work it out yourself.
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Do you need to be rooted ti use all of the functions in autorun killer? I am not rooted.
Can you compile a breif list of the "biggest culprits" to stop with this utility to gain back the most speed and efficiency? I am a bit nervous that I will stop the wrong items and somehow damage my phone...
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No need for Root to use all features of Autorun Killer. I would disable only the apps you know and which you do not need at startup and running in background, such as (in my case) Paypal, App Center from Androidpit, Daily Briefing, Photoshop Express, Word Press, TweetCaster, etc.
Every of these apps works normal, even when deactivatet on startup.
So unless you do not disable system apps (must be previously set enabled in settings) you are safe.
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(...)There is a second type of intent though, called a 'Broadcast Intent'. This is an intent that is sent out to anything that is registered to listen to it.(...)
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Is there any possibility/app to show what is registered for which app?
watching the apps
Samga said:
Is there any possibility/app to show what is registered for which app?
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There is an app called Autostarts at 0.95$.
It shows what is launched au startup, when you enable/disable wifi etc.
It think it gives insight on how apps seems launching out of nowhere.
I also reccomend Watchdog Task Manager Lite, the free version.
It does not kill anything, but notifies and logs the bad apps that consumes over a certain CPU percentage.
I am running auto nooter on my nc (lovin it) but i have noticed that the available memory is slowly leaking. On reboot, i usually have around 300 available and that number slowly but surely decreases until its so low that it reboots automatically.
I have advanced task killer installed and periodically kill all the tasks to make sure nothing is running in the background.
Any idea what might be causing this?
Advanced Task Killer is not helping you. Google has come right out and said Task Killers will do more harm than good on your Android device. Here is a good read:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
The fact that you can see an application's process "running" does not mean the application is running or doing anything. It may simply be there because Android needed it at some point, and has decided that it would be best to keep it around in case it needs it again.
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Once Android determines that it needs to remove a process, it does this brutally, simply force-killing it. The kernel can then immediately reclaim all resources needed by the process, without relying on that application being well written and responsive to a polite request to exit. Allowing the kernel to immediately reclaim application resources makes it a lot easier to avoid serious out of memory situations.
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czarjohn said:
I am running auto nooter on my nc (lovin it) but i have noticed that the available memory is slowly leaking. On reboot, i usually have around 300 available and that number slowly but surely decreases until its so low that it reboots automatically.
I have advanced task killer installed and periodically kill all the tasks to make sure nothing is running in the background.
Any idea what might be causing this?
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It will not reboot when it runs out of ram. My suspicion is you're seeing the 'random reboot' problem that happens on the stock B&N ROM. See here for a workaround: http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Issues
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Advanced Task Killer is not helping you. Google has come right out and said Task Killers will do more harm than good on your Android device. Here is a good read:
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I totally agree with this on 2.2 upwards... Unfortunately 2.1 is a little more lax about memory handling, and can sometimes get quite slow and jumpy and can benefit from a flush. I use System Panel and exclude all of my important tasks and widget, and if I see my NC getting jumpy or such, I'll kill all (which excludes those already excluded apps of course). But auto task killers are always a bad idea.
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Advanced Task Killer is not helping you. Google has come right out and said Task Killers will do more harm than good on your Android device. Here is a good read:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
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Thanks for the post, that was a great read and I am uninstalling my task killer now.
Mike
Regarding task killing, I recommend something like Watchdog to monitor apps as opposed to an auto-task killer. Watchdog has a really nice widget for monitoring system resources and in the rare occasion that an app starts misbehaving, it will give you a notification and the option to kill it. Otherwise letting the OS handle things itself is the best option. I've been using computers for a very long time and idea of leaving apps running seems counter-intuitive, but in my experience there is no reason to not trust what Google says about the issue.
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I am running auto nooter on my nc (lovin it) but i have noticed that the available memory is slowly leaking. On reboot, i usually have around 300 available and that number slowly but surely decreases until its so low that it reboots automatically.
I have advanced task killer installed and periodically kill all the tasks to make sure nothing is running in the background.
Any idea what might be causing this?
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i am also having these problems but im on honeycomb
i dont have any task killer installed but i installed one last week to check if my memory was leaking or if the rom was just rebooting
Great stuff here. Thanks for all the info. I think it was the random reboot since it did seem to happen most often when i was putting the nc in to standby.
Lots of good stuff here. Gonna miss the little green widget on my home screen, but i guess google knows best...
czarjohn said:
Great stuff here. Thanks for all the info. I think it was the random reboot since it did seem to happen most often when i was putting the nc in to standby.
Lots of good stuff here. Gonna miss the little green widget on my home screen, but i guess google knows best...
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well i installed honeycomb preview v2 on my eemc from samuallhaff and it seems to remove this problem
i suggest you switch to his rom if you want the memory leaks to stop
luigi90210 said:
well i installed honeycomb preview v2 on my eemc from samuallhaff and it seems to remove this problem
i suggest you switch to his rom if you want the memory leaks to stop
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Don't confuse "memory leaks" with "weird wifi sleep reboot bug".
Hey Folks,
Just wanted to hear some opinions on whether having a task manger is worth it. I've heard from both sides of the camp, stating newer versions of android can handle the load fine, and that more and more apps are running unnecessary background services.
I just did a clean wipe and reload of CM7 and I'm wondering whether I want my advanced task manager anymore.
Thoughts?
For me, I prefer no task killer. If I must close apps I go into running services and stop them that way. Usually they stop without me doing that.
I don't use one, not needed.
i never ever felt the need of having a task killer on my Inc S
the apps close by themselves when not in use.
v6 supercharger
just use v6 supercharger it is better than all the taskillers you may find.
I don't use one. I'm running CM7 and as Saenzscene said, I stop programs in the running services menu. However I never really had the need to do it as RAM was never a problem.
But I have noticed while running certain programs that if you press the "home" button, the program may keep running in the background afterwards. Whereas if you press the "back" button it will close the program's running service. Can anyone confirm this?
Never had the need for a TaskManager with CM7 or ARHD.
/ Jess Kölner /
/ Sent from my phone /
if you're using a task manager or task killer since froyo, urdoinitwrong
I'm using advanced task killer simply to kill anything that may not be shut down even tho I mean to.
As someone said above, it's possible that some alps stay open and keep your phone awake. I have a large ignore list which I use to ensure nothing important gets closed down, only the rogue apps, now my phone never stays awake when it shouldn't.
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No Task Manager. Using CM7 nightly 103.
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I don't use one. I'm running CM7 and as Saenzscene said, I stop programs in the running services menu. However I never really had the need to do it as RAM was never a problem.
But I have noticed while running certain programs that if you press the "home" button, the program may keep running in the background afterwards. Whereas if you press the "back" button it will close the program's running service. Can anyone confirm this?
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Yes, some apps like to run as a service process if you quit the app. FriendCaster is one example. I think they do this to handle sync process in the background.
I don't need anyone!
My choice is no task manager, android is good.
Does stopping running processes from the Manage Applications settings have any permanent effect on the phone? If I turn off the phone and turn it on again, will it fix whatever I stopped?
It's ok right to turn off processes? Nothing is really deleted right? Sorry, I'm new to android and smart phones in general/
Running processes are running programmes located in the RAM, so turn them off will only stop them running without wipe them from storage.
Not sure why you want to manually stop running processes, it’s likely they will auto restart after a while anyway. Beside Gingerbread is quite good at manage running apps, so there really is not a need to manually terminate running processes.
Nope. It will not have any permanent effect. You'll just clean up your RAM a bit, but everything you stopped will be started again when you turn on your phone or even in a few seconds.
Agree with the user above about Gingerbread app managing.
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In my opinion, the *only* reason to manually stop a process is because it's gone rogue and slowing down your device.
Any form of automatic task killing is ultimately counter-productive!
Regards,
Dave
If you root u device, u can use "Gemini App" to kill apps permanently. Just select them and mark " block", u also can kill processes completely and configure the auto-run