(sorry if the title is misleading, this is not a comparison)
It seems to me that all of the ICS roms that we currently have for the droid 3 are quite similar. So similar in fact that I can't tell the difference. They all have the same bugs (no video recording, no face unlock, bluetooth on but not connected blah blah blah).
From what I've gathered, CM9 is performance based and AOKP offers more customization. Other than that, what are the differences between these 4 roms? What do they offer in comparison to the others? If I'm wrong and some roms lack the above bugs, please correct me.
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i kinda agree. i have yet to try the new steel droid. im loving the aokp.
AFIAK, some of these latest ROMs like Gummy, and the MotoBlur just add onto existing functionality into AOKP.
The reason the "bugs" are so similar is because Hashcode and Dhacker29 have some type of shared hardware base code that is compiled against the CM9 and AOKP source.
Once they figure out how to get the HWCodecs going, I'm sure we'll get the video recording, possibly face unlock and video playback. I think that Hashcode already figured it out, but he may have ran into some kind of licensing issue which prevents him from releasing it (or getting sued).
From my experience on Gummy and AOKP, Gummy has phenomenal battery life, but AOKP boasts tons of modifications. Also, Gummy doesn't have docking and dock audio yet, and this is why I'm back on AOKP, but I'm considering trying CM9 and/or SD5 over the weekend.
I can tell the difference. They all have different options and system settings, they used altered launchers as well. Also AOKP has really neat toggle options.
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I'm wondering If there are some roms that are fully functional. But it wouldn't bother me if the camera or goods doesn't work. And please give me links to the threads.thank you
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I've been running Droid Th3ory's Axiom AOKP Rom for a while now and it's solid. Same stuff doesn't work, like full camera functions and hw acceleration but besides that I've had no issues. Here's the link: http://www.droidhive.com/forums/index.php?/topic/357-romaokp-m4-axi0m-kang-bionic/
Eclipse. I'm sure it will be easier for you to type bionic eclipse into Google to find the link than it will be for me to copy and paste it from my phone.
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Gummy ICS 1.0, everything works except for camcorder and HDMI as far as I can tell. HW acceleration works, data works, 3D games exceptionally well...faster than my Xoom OC'ed to 1.6Ghz running stock speeds on the Bionic.
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Gummy ICS 1.0, everything works except for camcorder and HDMI as far as I can tell. HW acceleration works, data works, 3D games exceptionally well...faster than my Xoom OC'ed to 1.6Ghz running stock speeds on the Bionic.
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HW acceleration works on Gummy now? Last I heard it did not. So does that mean Chrome Browser works now?
Bionic Eclipse is where the good life is at. The 2.2 version based on system .902 is absolutely incredible. Eclipse has been my daily for over 6 months now.
Also, it's bad form to bust into a forum and command people to pass you links. You're already on the internet. This forum has search boxes. You know how to get to google.com. You can do things on your own.
I will say that Eclipse 2.2 is stable to use full time.
I stand corrected, no HW acceleration (feels like it, it's pretty snappy) on Gummy yet. Chrome opens and you can type URLs...but nothing is displayed.
+1 on Eclipse 2.2.
I have not yet tried any of the ICS roms, which, while they have some limitations on camera functions I never use or HDMI, which I never use or will use, are reported to be stable. Droid Hive has those.
As Eclipse is very fast, very stable and has excellent battery life, I see no reason to switch. However, I would love to see a post where someone explains how much improvement I'd see over Eclipse by switching to AOKP, Gummy, etc. I realize that Eclipse is static and that further development is DOA. It is what it is, whereas some incredibly talented developers are tweaking the ICS roms on a daily basis.
eclipse is the best custom room I have ever used. I love it. Every thing works great
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eclipse 2.2
Eclipse 2.2 is also my "daily driver" and it is very stable, one of the most stable "custom" roms I have used on ANY android phone.........but your mileage may vary.
and i like kinetx .902 compatible the best. had my bionic for about 2 months and i always go back to kinetx. the only catch is the dev doesnt work on it anymore. passed it on to someone else. good data/battery life/speed in general. i did come from a droid inc that had hardware issues, though, so maybe its not as great as i think. most of the ics roms (havent flashed one since the end of march) felt buggy and crappy. plus i hate cyan/turquoise. but heres some link love: droid hive http://rombot.droidhive.com/ROMs/targa/
the other 3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455888
in the second link, it tells you about safestrap which avoids bootstrap, but takes away rom manager functionality for flashing roms but gives you a good chance of never fully bricking. it makes a copy of your stock rom and partitions it away, then gives you a partition to play with. read all directions carefully. if ya have bootstrap,uninstall it before you safestrap. have fun.
Zero ICS ROMs for the bionic are fully functional. Eclipse and a few other GB ROMS are the only fully functional ROMS available.
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After being on these forums for a while, I've come to know the 5 main ROMS for the D4.
AOKP
The Arctic
SELFKANG/CM9
Gummy
Eclipse
I think that there should be a thread that compares each ROM, and that helps people, myself included, choose from these wonderful pieces of software that would best be suited for their likings.
If I may, I came from CM7, and I miss it dearly. I also enjoyed MIUI, but always came back to CM7.
I am excited about CM9, but more than ICS, I want some tweakability and theming again. I would love to see CM7 themes.
However, my biggest actual need, is lapdock support. Whatever custom rom supports it will be my first choice.
I just wish I could code to help. Alas, I am not a coder.
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I was more referring to features of the listed rooms in my first post. But theming and such are good things to discuss too
Is it still true that none of the ICS ROMs have a working video camera yet due to driver issues?
I'm still on stock, but recent issues with Bluetooth AVRCP being completely broken in both versions of the stock ROM have me interested in taking the plunge.
It's true. For video to work I guess we'll have to wait for an ICS release from Motorola. Doubt any dev will work on it knowing Motorola will release it.
I for one am a happy AOKP user. Not sure if you would be. Some have reported audio issues with ICS/AOKP/AOSP. At the moment I have no need for Bluetooth audio. Except maybe my carkit.
I'm perfectly happy sticking on eclipse 1.3.6 right now its really fast, and no issues as of yet
Looking for a nice ROM with stable data connection, absolutely love ICS but sketchy data is putting it on hold for now. Gonna try eclipse...
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Eclipse is absolutely amazing, haven't run in to any problems at all
Are the CM9 and AOKP builds forked from the same code? I was using AOKP but I had to go back to the leak because of random restarts and hard-keyboard issues. Does CM9 share the same issues?
I also want to say thanks very much to the devs. I love and greatly appreciate all the work you put into this device!
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Hashcode is maintaining both ports and they definitely both run on the same kernel, what with how Safestrap works.
I don't know how different the low level stuff is but given that they both come out at the same time it seems likely that he is maintaining the same low level stuff and just attaching the appropriate framework on top.
It's certainly true that my voice call issues affect both ROMs, but not the leak or olegfusion's cleaned up version of the leak.
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I was thinking about this because, almost every 4.2 rom for the Atrix HD as a lot of problems (camera, battery drain, etc), it's worth?
Flashed AOSPizza and its incredible and can't find anything that I miss from 4.2 so that's my focus: why don't put effort on 4.1 which is running great since (to me) there aren't so many differences with 4.2?
A 4.1 version of Paranoid Android would be awesome for example. Just putting the debate on the table
Right now the benefit is broken camcorder...:silly:
http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/android-versions-comparison
Lockscreen widgets
360 degree images with Photo Sphere
Gesture Typing, for faster typing
Wireless display with Miracast
Daydream to display information when idle or docked
Hefty amout of project butter additions
Eruditass said:
http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/android-versions-comparison
Lockscreen widgets
360 degree images with Photo Sphere
Gesture Typing, for faster typing
Wireless display with Miracast
Daydream to display information when idle or docked
Hefty amout of project butter additions
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Even if in the words appears to be a lot, I don't know if actually those are "killers" updates.
neondunker said:
Even if in the words appears to be a lot, I don't know if actually those are "killers" updates.
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I agree, but supporting new development is always good for a device issues fixed may help porting over more major updates.
Here's a video showing the differences:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=mo1DmO9JH3Y
Eruditass said:
http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/android-versions-comparison
Lockscreen widgets
360 degree images with Photo Sphere
Gesture Typing, for faster typing
Wireless display with Miracast
Daydream to display information when idle or docked
Hefty amout of project butter additions
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Photosphere does not work on AtrixHD, no gyroscope
neondunker said:
Hi,
I was thinking about this because, almost every 4.2 rom for the Atrix HD as a lot of problems (camera, battery drain, etc), it's worth?
Flashed AOSPizza and its incredible and can't find anything that I miss from 4.2 so that's my focus: why don't put effort on 4.1 which is running great since (to me) there aren't so many differences with 4.2?
A 4.1 version of Paranoid Android would be awesome for example. Just putting the debate on the table
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I totally agree with Neo. In fact, most dev threads run developments from 4.2 down to even Froyo!
Many devs prefer to dev on top of a proven daily rom because it's pretty much documented.
I would suggest working on a 4.1 with everything working. GPS, camcorder, data, lagless,etc
This would be a dev job on 4.1 with the purpose of tweaking a proven working rom.
Even I feel the same, why dont we make a fork of the cm 10 when we have working cam and gps everything?
Why people are goin after cm 10.1 or 4.2.
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Even I feel the same, why dont we make a fork of the cm 10 when we have working cam and gps everything?
Why people are goin after cm 10.1 or 4.2.
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Because its newer, simple as that. And a lot of custom roms don't do CM10 based anymore -- all CM10.1. I mean, if PAC, Slim, AOKP, PA or whatever were still doing 10 it would be worth doing.
I mean, I could probably\maybe do a 10 based rom, but first release would pretty much be it. Our devs don't really do CM10 anymore, nor do the major projects.
Android 4.2.3 and a 3.4 kernel is where we're gonna be in the future. We just need to be patient enough for Hashcode and the rest of the gang to get 3.4 working. Lots of progress has been made, but its not all the way ready. Personally, while inconvenient, I can live without gps and camcorder because I know that I'd rather have them working on a better 3.4 kernel for us than trying to fix our current out of date kernel.
I'll look into doing a 4.1 based PAC, but that's as much as I care to do for CM10 other than help someone else start their own CM10 based project.
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Gonna try and make PAC Jellybean 4.1 based on XT926 CM10 unlocked bootloader sources and kernel. Wish me luck
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Because its newer, simple as that. And a lot of custom roms don't do CM10 based anymore -- all CM10.1. I mean, if PAC, Slim, AOKP, PA or whatever were still doing 10 it would be worth doing.
I mean, I could probably\maybe do a 10 based rom, but first release would pretty much be it. Our devs don't really do CM10 anymore, nor do the major projects.
Android 4.2.3 and a 3.4 kernel is where we're gonna be in the future. We just need to be patient enough for Hashcode and the rest of the gang to get 3.4 working. Lots of progress has been made, but its not all the way ready. Personally, while inconvenient, I can live without gps and camcorder because I know that I'd rather have them working on a better 3.4 kernel for us than trying to fix our current out of date kernel.
I'll look into doing a 4.1 based PAC, but that's as much as I care to do for CM10 other than help someone else start their own CM10 based project.
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Gonna try and make PAC Jellybean 4.1 based on XT926 CM10 unlocked bootloader sources and kernel. Wish me luck
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GO FOR IT!!! a lot a people will be thankful!!
Actually I don't know how that works with cyanogenmod.org when/who/how will be the decision made to update the sourcecode of the Droid 4 to CM 11 or to create a RC build of CM 10.2.
On cmxlog I see still allot of changes on the 10.2 maserati nightlies. But I'm a bit confused that so many devices got a RC1 build or are updated to CM 11 but non of the QMAP Motorola Phones. And it also looks like many Motorola Phones even don't have any nighties anymore.
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Hopefully I can skirt the edges of the "don't endorse and compare" rules, for the sake of giving you honest information and a "state of the nation." Obviously none of them are done -- I mean, not even the versions for newer / more common phones are done -- so this will hopefully be understood as a matter of "who's focusing on what, first."
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so many devices got a RC1 build or are updated to CM 11 but non of the QMAP Motorola Phones. And it also looks like many Motorola Phones even don't have any nighties anymore.
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There are currently three "even MORE unofficial" builds of KitKat for D4, to my knowledge. Once the pain-in-the-butt part was handled by the usual suspects, development opened up.
Unofficial CM11 Thread
(All hail Michael, savior of 3g. What a patch!)
Unofficial SlimKat, in the SlimBean thread
(I'm using this now, as it allows the custom navring that's built into my muscle memory.) Anecdotally seems more stable, especially w/ ART instead of Dalvik, but (for now I assume) it lacks the 3g fix.
Gummy
I thought Gummy was long gone as a team, and that dhacker had sworn off support for the OMAP phones, but the more the merrier. Haven't tried it, but just because of timing: when I started running KitKat, the newest build predated the 3g fix... no longer the case, but I've been busy.
In SlimKat some of the hw keyboard is mismapped, noticably the Shift-key'd output for the last few numerals. It also doesn't light up for me, so if you're a keyboard commando, this will irk you. I can vouch for CM11's lights -- people have noted they're even on when it's not dark -- but didn't need any asterisks or parenthesis when I was using it, so I need to go back and see if the mapping is likewise wrong.
But hey, new minor version of AOSP, same old patches that need to be scrounged up and ported. Just glad this quirky, lovable phone is getting any support at all.
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Hopefully I can skirt the edges of the "don't endorse and compare" rules, for the sake of giving you honest information and a "state of the nation." Obviously none of them are done -- I mean, not even the versions for newer / more common phones are done -- so this will hopefully be understood as a matter of "who's focusing on what, first."
There are currently three "even MORE unofficial" builds of KitKat for D4, to my knowledge. Once the pain-in-the-butt part was handled by the usual suspects, development opened up.
Unofficial CM11 Thread
(All hail Michael, savior of 3g. What a patch!)
Unofficial SlimKat, in the SlimBean thread
(I'm using this now, as it allows the custom navring that's built into my muscle memory.) Anecdotally seems more stable, especially w/ ART instead of Dalvik, but (for now I assume) it lacks the 3g fix.
Gummy
I thought Gummy was long gone as a team, and that dhacker had sworn off support for the OMAP phones, but the more the merrier. Haven't tried it, but just because of timing: when I started running KitKat, the newest build predated the 3g fix... no longer the case, but I've been busy.
In SlimKat some of the hw keyboard is mismapped, noticably the Shift-key'd output for the last few numerals. It also doesn't light up for me, so if you're a keyboard commando, this will irk you. I can vouch for CM11's lights -- people have noted they're even on when it's not dark -- but didn't need any asterisks or parenthesis when I was using it, so I need to go back and see if the mapping is likewise wrong.
But hey, new minor version of AOSP, same old patches that need to be scrounged up and ported. Just glad this quirky, lovable phone is getting any support at all.
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Thanks for that, but I still don't get why the Droid 4 got no cm10.2 RC1 the cm10.2 nightlies where good and stable. I think for some people that might look like there is no support for the Droid 4 anymore and they swap the phone. Or even people in countries where the last QWERTY slider was a "Milestone/Droid 2" that can be a reason to not buy a used Droid 4. Thats a shame since its the best QWERTY you can currently get without doing any hardware modifications!