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Hi,
I'm having my Nexus One for about two weeks now and I already started a thread about the choppy scrolling between homescreens but now I want to know if there are other people that find their Nexus One slow and if they were able to make it faster in any way.
When I bought this phone I thought android would 'fly' on it cause I already had a HTC Magic and that went reasonably fast. But everything I'm using on my Nexus One feels choppy and not fluent as I expected/want it to be. For example when you start the browser or any other program you get this zoom animation which is nice but it doesn't go fluent, it goes choppy like you would play a videogame with 5 FPS.
And as I already mentioned the same counts for the launcher, it's just not fluent and doesn't feel fast at all.
I've tested different rom's, froyo, etc. but nothing seems to make it right so now I'm wondering if there are people that have the same issue's? Is it normal that the Nexus One isn't super fast to use or is there something wrong with my phone and should I return it?
i think something is wrong. especially with froyo the phone is ultra-fast.
Try Linpack and some other benchmarks and post the results.
Or try osmonitor for example and see what the cpu speed does, perhaps it is stuck @ 245 mhz for some reason lol
Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
renegadEEE said:
Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
renegadEEE said:
But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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the kernel is actually the primary factor when it comes to speed. how the kernel manages actions on the phone is the deciding factor on what makes it run fast. you can have a very fast phone hardwarewise, but if the kernel is designed poorly, the phone will run slow as well. Using a kernel that does not have highmem enabled means your probably running an older kernel that does not have updates for speed. the latest froyo kernel has highmem and JIT enabled for faster application use as well as over smoother feel.
i love the animations as well
im coming from the G1 and i havent had any of the of the problems you seem to be having. you are flashing the roms correctly (unless there are additional things such as google apps you need, idk whats the procedure on that for the nexus) Im running fully stock with froyo FRF72.
I would imagine that Desire would be SLOWER than stock android not faster. However the animations may be better optimized. I only used sense on the G1 and it was slow as heck on there (i would have used it all the time otherwise) The main reason that things look so choppy is because rendering is not handled by the GPU, rather the CPU. This puts more strain on the CPU than should be necessary.
I don't get why they OC the CPU either. Seriously, 1gHz is fast for a PHONE. I can understand why when the phone starts getting dated why you would....but its not gonna be dated till at least Q4 2010 when the 1.2-2gHz snapdragons are coming out.
Qualcomm will have a 1.5gHz ready for new phones this year. DUAL-CORE
http://gizmodo.com/5443976/qualcomm...dragon-smartphones-are-about-to-go-hyperspeed
As for the problem. Sounds weird. Try LauncherPro for a test. That is smooth launcher that flows like butter. If that is choppy then there is something seriously fu-bar going on with yer phone
I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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so is your nexus smooth and fluid now? because mine is very smooth swiping the homescreens. using launcher pro. no choppiness at all.
Stock launchers to me are kinda choppy too. And that was my only complain with the nexus. Like the previous posters advised, try launcher pro and adwlauncher, tweak the settings to your liking and you'll see the difference. As far as kernel for froyo try pershoots kernel, it seems to be very smooth and speedy.
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I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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400 is normal. FRF72 seems to help battery life greatly for me. browser seems more stable and google apps have been updated (alarm and calendar)
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Minor suggestion - install ADW.Launcher (you'll have to tweak the settings a bit to make it nice) or Launcher Pro (works great as is) with your Froyo ROM. You'll thank me for it. The stock launcher scrolling is choppy - always has been, never was really fixed in Froyo (at least as of FRF50 - I haven't even bothered trying it with FRF72).
I'm thinking about getting one and just using it as an android tablet.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ran honeycomb quickly with a 1ghz overclock
comdei said:
I'm thinking about getting one and just using it as an android tablet.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ran honeycomb quickly with a 1ghz overclock
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I just got one yesterday and it is nice. Only dislike I have is it gets fingerprints on it very easily. Screen is beautiful and so crisp makes me wanna cry . I got mine OCd to 1.1ghz and I love it
mcp2009 said:
I just got one yesterday and it is nice. Only dislike I have is it gets fingerprints on it very easily. Screen is beautiful and so crisp makes me wanna cry . I got mine OCd to 1.1ghz and I love it
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I just got mine wondering if you could tell me which option you did to root your device and how did you overclock it ?
Thankyou
Patrikc8 said:
I just got mine wondering if you could tell me which option you did to root your device and how did you overclock it ?
Thankyou
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No problem. I used this http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting to root. And I use this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451. I'm using 1.1ghz eclair and this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932145
I'm on the same boat as the OP. Can't decide between the Nook and the Viewsonic G tablet. How stable are the 2.2 roms on the Nook? I watch streaming live sports on my Streak and Nexus S a lot so flash is a must have for me.
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Honestly it's pretty bad. Running it off of a SD card is dirt slow for me compared to my Incredible, and lots of people are bricking their nooks trying to run off the emmc.
Plus, we have no hardware video acceleration at all in Froyo. Youtube doesn't work either.
My hopes are hanging on Cyanogenmod 7. If it doesn't come out before my return period is up, I'm afraid I may be returning the nook.
mcp2009 said:
No problem. I used this http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting to root. And I use this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451. I'm using 1.1ghz eclair and this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932145
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so the root allows you to install android applications
the kernal allows you to over clock it
what does the rom do?
thank you
computerpro3 said:
Honestly it's pretty bad. Running it off of a SD card is dirt slow for me compared to my Incredible, and lots of people are bricking their nooks trying to run off the emmc.
Plus, we have no hardware video acceleration at all in Froyo. Youtube doesn't work either.
My hopes are hanging on Cyanogenmod 7. If it doesn't come out before my return period is up, I'm afraid I may be returning the nook.
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on a class 6 sd card, i scored a 1560 quadrant on sd booted nookie. Thats not overclocked either. My best on stock rooted eclair with 1.1 ghz was just under 1200. Thats a big difference. Flash and youtube worked. Maybe you are trying to run it off a class 2.
It works fine.
cabbieBot said:
on a class 6 sd card, i scored a 1560 quadrant on sd booted nookie. Thats not overclocked either. My best on stock rooted eclair with 1.1 ghz was just under 1200. Thats a big difference. Flash and youtube worked. Maybe you are trying to run it off a class 2.
It works fine.
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Quadrant score has nothing whatsoever to do with the inherent latency or slow speeds of even a class 10 sd card compared to internal flash. Its flat out sluggish in comparison.
I haven't ran froyo on anything better than a class 4 sd card. I wound up back on 2.1 on internal memory. It was just a little too laggy. I'm currently working on getting it on emmc. I was shopping around in the $300 range right before christmas and the nook was the best option for an android toy. Prices may have changed on others since then, but the nook hardware is really nice besides lack of bluetooth. Price vs what you get I don't think it can be beat.
ryan562 said:
I'm on the same boat as the OP. Can't decide between the Nook and the Viewsonic G tablet. How stable are the 2.2 roms on the Nook? I watch streaming live sports on my Streak and Nexus S a lot so flash is a must have for me.
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it really depends, it runs fast off the emmc (internal memory, if you didnt know) or a class 6 or class 10 micro sd, but if all you have is a class 2 or 4 its near impossible to use...
if you wait a couple of weeks the CM7 rom (android 2.3) should be completed... i cant wait!
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Quadrant score has nothing whatsoever to do with the inherent latency or slow speeds of even a class 10 sd card compared to internal flash. Its flat out sluggish in comparison.
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a huge part of quadrant is the i/o of storage, so wouldnt a faster card result in a higher score (and therefore faster device?)
mckooter said:
a huge part of quadrant is the i/o of storage, so wouldnt a faster card result in a higher score (and therefore faster device?)
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oooohhh, shutdown computerpro...
but seriously, mckooter's arguement makes sense
mckooter said:
a huge part of quadrant is the i/o of storage, so wouldnt a faster card result in a higher score (and therefore faster device?)
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Yes, but the increase in score between a class 2 and class 10 card is miniscule compared to even overclocking just 100mhz. Try it yourself. The difference in speed from a class 2 card to a class 10 card is a few mb/s write speed. The difference in write speed between a class 10 card and the internal flash is likely an order of magnitude or so. Of course we can't know for sure until we can benchmark the emmc, but this would be consistent with the performance of other devices.
Regardless, froyo on a SD card is not as fast as I need it to be, period. I hate using a device when I "outrun" it - I don't like waiting around for softkeys to pop up, etc.
Back to Stock
Having a screen related issue with my NC, and I just wanted to confirm before shipping it back that all I have to do to return it to the stock 2.1 install + standard recovery is do the 6x interrupt.
Are there any steps I am missing?
I'm running the 1.0.1 NC interface, 1.1Ghz OC, and Zeam interface over it. It's very fast and feels native. I see no reason to boot from an SD card when I have the "android interface" essentially anyways.
However I cannot play any video other than H.264 SD. (and no hulu/netflix yet of course)
I have been running Nookie Froyo on the EMMC for a while now and have been getting Quadrant scores in the 1400-1500s every time. Just follow all the info on http://nookdevs.com/NookColor:_Nookie_Froyo_Tips and you will be fine.
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I'm running the 1.0.1 NC interface, 1.1Ghz OC, and Zeam interface over it. It's very fast and feels native. I see no reason to boot from an SD card when I have the "android interface" essentially anyways.
However I cannot play any video other than H.264 SD. (and no hulu/netflix yet of course)
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You know in the last 24 hours I really focused on this, as opposed to doing the whole Froyo thing.
Wow. Now I really enjoy this thing. Lack of flash is a big issue, but honestly using button savior instead of softkeys and getting updated to 1.1 have made this a fantastic daily use tablet.
I'm running stock, 1.1.0, Zeam, Dolphin HD and loving it. No Flash, but that doesn't really bother me. Can handle movies, YouTube, Angry Birds, web browsing, every eReader format and service, and my favorite news reader - Pulse. Started using Calibre and Aldiko for a ton of additional news sources for train reading. Got a ton of other apps as well, and in my opinion there is no noticeable lag in anything I do on the Nook, but I mostly love it as a hugely capable reader. Great device!
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Yeah, nice. I did have to go to Dolphin 4.2 to get pinch-zoom to work. The latest (4.3) doesn't work.
Today I tried that bootable honeycomb. It's slick looking.. but not fast yet. With 1.1Ghz and 1.0.1, I'm hitting about 1200 on the bench mark. Fine.. I just really wish we had video acceleration for video OTHER than h.264. I don't "read", but bought this to play with. If i'm out and about, i use my iphone to tether the NC.
Hi i got my samsung i9000 yesterday and immediatly flashed it to the cm7 mod. The battery seemed to die very quick today got about 5 hours music out of it. Also when i free memory the maximum i get is 150mb. Surely that cant be right when it has 512. Is something wrong or does that seem normal?
Thanks
liamwalsh said:
Hi i got my samsung i9000 yesterday and immediatly flashed it to the cm7 mod. The battery seemed to die very quick today got about 5 hours music out of it. Also when i free memory the maximum i get is 150mb. Surely that cant be right when it has 512. Is something wrong or does that seem normal?
Thanks
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There is no way to estimate if your battery usage is normal, not enough information. However 150MB free is pretty typical of all Galaxy S ROMs. CM7 actually tends to have a bit more free memory then most. You need to remember most of the memory of your phone is busy being...y'know..a phone.
Just making sure just feels abit weird after coming from an iphone 4 that had 300+ memory available.
I've been away for a few months and recently stopped by to see that there hasn't been a stable in about 4 months, does this mean that CM7 development for the nook is pretty much over? I'm currently running a dual boot with stock on internal memory and 7.0.2 on the sd card. If I wanted to update my CM7 should I just go for the latest nightly? I have no issues with 7.0.2 other than the battery life is just god awful. I am not a big android user so I don't know what the "norm" is, but I can leave my nook color booted into stock for probably a week without having to plug it in with minimum uses. CM7 7.0.2 even if I don't use the device at all will go from 100 to 20 in a matter of 48 hours.
Wow.. that is one hell of a logic jump to make, that because there is no "stable" (BTW, there actually is a RC1 that came after 7.0.2), that work has stopped. Since you haven't looked, i would suggest taking a look at the nightly log, and seeing for yourself.
Also, CM7 does a "stable" release as a whole; not per device. Anyway, yes, update to nightly 173 (i think you are around 50-100 nightlies behind), and really enjoy your nook..
http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=encore
download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=encore
download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=encore&type=RC
As a rule never presume a device that is currently still being manufactured and that has a community (several actually) that is dedicated to the modification of said device's development is dead.
I really hate to be this guy, BUT being that this is a very active forum on said device (and developments are posted nearly daily), it would also be wise to click a few links or do a few searches.
As for development... tough to come out with a stable when so much is happening (B&N releasing 1.3, all the advances in other areas of CM7, etc.)
As for battery life... stock should last extrememly longer... all it is is an e-reader with minimal "accessories"... CM7 is makes it full fledged android tablet... with a LOT more features etc... by nature it will utilize more battery than something that is idle without all the extras
Think about cell phones... I used to be able to go days without charging my cell phone (using it a lot)... now with android phones I have to charge it at least every day (sometimes twice a day)... there's a LOT going on in android devices that sucks up juice.
I've been running CM7 since n128 or so and my battery life is every bit as good, if not better, than stock. And currently Dalingrin's OC kernel is already integrated. It really is butter smooth and I'm running it off of sd.
That being said, it is curious to me why there hasn't been a recent release candidate...
Ok lets be clear on one thing here:-
CM7 stable releases are not aptly named.Often they are far from stable and really are more like milestones than anything else.
For the very best cm7 on any device the tricks are:-
follow the forums and see which nightly is currently the best.
flash every so often when a much loved nightly release comes out!
Simple and true!
Still, the funny thing I've noticed is that...I've not seen a single need to upgrade past RC1. Everything in RC1 works for me and is buttery smooth.
*Shrugs*
Read the CyanogenMod Blog post on the subject
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/the-state-of-cyanogenmod
I thought there was 7.0.2, then 7.0.3 stable, then 7.1 RC.
Where have you been in the last 4 months or will you re-surface in the next 4 months?
PoisonWolf said:
Still, the funny thing I've noticed is that...I've not seen a single need to upgrade past RC1. Everything in RC1 works for me and is buttery smooth.
*Shrugs*
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Major improvements after 7.1 RC:
Overclock kernel included
Amazingly fast boot up
Lots of small stuff, ability to switch sd card and emmc etc.
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Well I've noticed that PSX4droid and N64oid v2+ prefer 7.0.3. I'm not sure why but it could be new 32 kernel.
Everything else seems good though.
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Major improvements after 7.1 RC:
Overclock kernel included
Amazingly fast boot up
Lots of small stuff, ability to switch sd card and emmc etc.
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I already have the overclock kernel....and I don't reset very often. So I don't see much point in upgrading yet. I have a comfy 2gb internal and 4gb internal storage.
I have had about 400 hours uptime? Recently resettled to doing 240 dpi and I am finding that I absolutely love the giant everything plus a working market. Haha.
I had mine since end of March, ran rooted for awhile then phiremod then CM7 for quite a while. Had 7.03 running for some time, with very few issues. Main one is if I wanted to use bluetooth I had to turn it on immediately after reboot, then it seemed to work fine.
Rom manager kept prompting to upgrade to 7.1-RC, so gave it a shot.
Issues I saw -
1) When plugging in Nook, screen doesn't turn off. Googled this, some don't seem to think it is a bug. Actually on my new Acer A100, I don't think it does either, but I liked it when after plug in screen would come on, then short while later turn back off.
2) Biggest issue, now when unplugged overnight (twice now), it turns off completely. Is this the SOD? If so, I don't like it. 7.03 never did this.
3) But on the other hand, the good -
Nook Tweaks is awesome package but you need later version of Dalingrin to run it, not sure if later Dalingrin can be installed with 7.03 (I may try this). Nook Tweaks app brings some nice features like USB host mode (I haven't tried this - need special cable). Also ability to turn down headphone preamp - awesome. Anybody who hates the hiss or blasting your eardrums by accidently pressing the volume up, will like this feature.
Also bluetooth seems to be able to be turned on whenever now. Also nice.
So in my experience other than the shutdown thing, 7.1 worked fine, but because of shutdown thing I'm going back to 7.03 and doing some testing to use latest overclock and nook tweaks app.
My advice if you think you want to try the newer features do a backup first. You may want to go back if you get the shutdown thing, like I did.
Sorry guys didn't mean to upset anyone. Some of us are a less plugged in than others. I just upgraded to the latest nightly so hopefully the battery life will be greatly improved. I noticed that this can now be overclocked as high as 1200, but I left it at 800 for now just to see how battery life is.
congrats on your update. for me, my battery life has been awesome. 7hrs over night with only 1% drain. here are my settings for overclocking and voltage. I have been running with these setting for sometime now and it has been perfect, vary stable and buttery smooth and no SODs. I also set my screen to 16bits for better performance, about 4-6 fps better then 32bit. can't really see the difference between 16-32bit but can appreciate the better performance with 16bit.
me: cm7 n174 / conservative / 16 bit / nenamark1 22.9 / neocore 29.9 / quadrant 2642
300 @ .8125v
600 @ 1.0v
800 @ 1.1625v
1100 @ 1.2375v
1200 @ 1.2875v
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Sorry guys didn't mean to upset anyone. Some of us are a less plugged in than others. I just upgraded to the latest nightly so hopefully the battery life will be greatly improved. I noticed that this can now be overclocked as high as 1200, but I left it at 800 for now just to see how battery life is.
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There was an update (or several) that fixed a deep sleep issue. I forget when it was, but it made battery life for me go from 2-3 days like you were saying to easily a week or more depending on usage. I'm also running the 1200 overclock (with interactivex governor) and have no complaints. Unfortunately, it's hard to track all of the improvements from the last stable release with all the nightlies, but some of the highlights are the battery life/deep sleep, improved bluetooth, and usb host, not to mention the included OC kernel (among many others i'm sure i'm forgetting).
I hung back for a month or so, staying on 7.0.3, but the other day I decided to go to the latest nightly after reading some of the comments on ROM Mgr about it. Night and day, really! And, haven't seen the SOD since 7.1 RC.
4 months is a long time not to be "plugged in" -- whad'ja do? Get an iPhone?
Welcome back!
Dshiz
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I hung back for a month or so, staying on 7.0.3, but the other day I decided to go to the latest nightly after reading some of the comments on ROM Mgr about it. Night and day, really! And, haven't seen the SOD since 7.1 RC.
4 months is a long time not to be "plugged in" -- whad'ja do? Get an iPhone?
Welcome back!
Dshiz
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I don't actually own a smart phone The NC is my first experience with Android. I glance at the threads every few days to see if anything peaks my interest, but honestly at least half the stuff is over my head. Summer is the best time to spend less time on the computer and more outside, so I haven't been following much. BTW I'm a software developer by trade but I'm on the MS side of things
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congrats on your update. for me, my battery life has been awesome. 7hrs over night with only 1% drain. here are my settings for overclocking and voltage. I have been running with these setting for sometime now and it has been perfect, vary stable and buttery smooth and no SODs. I also set my screen to 16bits for better performance, about 4-6 fps better then 32bit. can't really see the difference between 16-32bit but can appreciate the better performance with 16bit.
me: cm7 n174 / conservative / 16 bit / nenamark1 22.9 / neocore 29.9 / quadrant 2642
300 @ .8125v
600 @ 1.0v
800 @ 1.1625v
1100 @ 1.2375v
1200 @ 1.2875v
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Which nightly do you have installed?
Right now I have rc1 installed. Thinking of updating but wondered which nightly is good?
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boxcar8028 said:
congrats on your update. for me, my battery life has been awesome. 7hrs over night with only 1% drain. here are my settings for overclocking and voltage. I have been running with these setting for sometime now and it has been perfect, vary stable and buttery smooth and no SODs. I also set my screen to 16bits for better performance, about 4-6 fps better then 32bit. can't really see the difference between 16-32bit but can appreciate the better performance with 16bit.
me: cm7 n174 / conservative / 16 bit / nenamark1 22.9 / neocore 29.9 / quadrant 2642
300 @ .8125v
600 @ 1.0v
800 @ 1.1625v
1100 @ 1.2375v
1200 @ 1.2875v
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Have you tried going lower at 800 MHz?
I found my Nook Color stable with these settings:
300 MHz @ 0.8125v
600 MHz @ 0.95v
800 MHz @ 1.075v
1100 MHz @ 1.225v
1200 MHz @ 1.3v
(That is the lowest possible I could set them to for 300/600/800).
Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
Thanks
Narwhal73 said:
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
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Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
i'm pretty comfortable with 825 or 844 mhz
It's pretty good with 614 MHz lol
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Running smooth even on 614 Mhz.
Moderate usage.
King Android said:
Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
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Right now I am just using the stock one. I personally wouldn't change my battery to anything other than stock, but people have reported that 1500mAh or 1600mAh work well. I wouldn't use anything that has a higher capacity than that though. Also, if it's very inexpensive it's probably not real.
Clocking actually goes on the rom. I've seen people having OC over 1gHz & still stable with the mad kernel but I gave up clocking as I didn't see much of a difference & also underclocking started giving me FCs on some heavy apps while it was all fair in the unclocked state. And again, there's no such thing as a best frequency. You find your own values. What works well for him might mess up your phone rebooting all by itself. Stock batteries are always fine & they also keep you under warranty. Anyone ever wondered why the phone manufacturers didn't implement clocking as a part of it ? Stability is the word. I've seen here, I've seen there. East or west, stock is the best ! Try keeping as close to stock as possible, just to have that extra touch of safety & stability
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Hello all.
I was reading this thread and became interested in overclocking. In my case my device is:
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830L (labeled as GT-S5830 by CyanogenMod)
CyanogenMod-7.2.0-cooper stable (Android version 2.3.7)
Kernel 2.6.35.7-perf-CL882825 ([email protected] #21)
I was checking in CM settings -> Performance -> CPU settings that I could adjust min and max clockspeed, but in max frequency the maximum one is the same processor's speed, 800 MHz. So my kernel doesn't support overclocking.
After a search in the forums I found there are plenty of custom kernels for this legacy device. But I'm relatively new to the kernel world, so I wanted to ask you for advise. What custom kernel could I try for my device for overclocking? Or King Android, what custom kernel are you using?
It'd the first time I do the overclocking stuff, I'd like to try it to see if some higher quality mp4 videos (which are run by MX Player only in software acceleration) can run better, as well as some games and emulators.
I'm also kind of a noob as you can see. If you want to troll/scold me...
Thank you all.
ctcx said:
Hello all.
I was reading this thread and [...]
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Hi you can try FireKernel or BlackHawk kernel. Use the search function to find them easily. Both supports Overclocking and are made for CM7. [MAKE SURE THEY SUPPORT YOUR S5830L]
At the moment I'm with Democracy ROM which is based on unofficial CM7 and I don't really feel the need of overclocking. It is all smooth with firekernel at
Min 245
Max 806
Governor smartassv2
Sent from my... oh wait, who cares?
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
You can set it to whatever your phone can handle. Mine can't go past 844Mhz otherwise apps start force closing and such. If your phone is completely stable at 883Mhz then you're good.
As for the battery, no. It's a fake. Buy a 1500mAh like I did. Works like a charm and it brought 3. Lasts a little longer and it's really amazing. Had it for a while now. Still have one in the pack, only been using 2 when I don't get to charge my phone. Really handy.
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I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
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OCing helps the phone over all. But remember, without much free ram, OC won't really change much. You need a balance of ram and CPU. Like me, I use swap and OC to 844Mhz. Even if it's a low OC, it's still better than nothing.
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L with CM 7.2. Would OC work for me? Up to what frequency?
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM? Is your device really an Ace?
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
Any help?
ctcx said:
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L...
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM...
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
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1.- Every Ace is diferent..some Ace's can go up to 960 Mhz while other just 844 Mhz, the thing is: try it yourself overclocking in small jumps. Swap is a small amount of memory of your SD card, that Android use it like if where RAM, but decreases SD card life...
2.- Some Kernel came Built in on Some particullary ROM's but generally cames on a CWM Flashable zip; FireKernel & BlackHawk are specially for CM7; In my opinion FireKernel is the best... And there are others like Battery Extender Kernel or NimsKernel but these Kernel are only for Stock ROM's...
I hope you find useful my info...
Thank you, Blake2893.
Then there's just 2 doubts left, if you don't mind.
There's a fair number of custom CM7.2 roms with FireKernel in the developer forum. Is there one you or someone else could say is the best in terms of stability and least number of bugs? Or is that something I should test myself in the S5830L?
The Ace S5830/S5830L has 278 Mb total RAM by default. If I understand well, you're implying I could modify SWAP partition in order to increase RAM and, probably if lucky, with this make OC work better. How can I do that? Do I also need a custom kernel/rom for that?
The best stable Roms so far are the stock GingerBread based ones... but if you aks me about CM7 there a few like Apocalypse rom(ICS styled ROM) with the FireKernel that suports swap I think...
and for Swap you only need a Kernel with Swap enabled and a SWAP Partition on your Sd card...
lets see im fine and stable with 979 mhz without reboot for 9 hours
overclock is depend on your hardware
best over clock freq.
King Android said:
Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
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The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
Cyb3rVect0r said:
The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
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Using CPU high frequencies is not recommended, your device's life will be reduced considerably