New Touchpad 32 only shows 22 gigs - TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My new tp I bought off eBay only shows around 22gb mMax space. Is this normal?
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Scratch that. It actually says 25. Still seems a bit low
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Well some of the space is missing because of formatting and do you have Android installed on it? The Android installation does take some flash space.

Alright. And yes I do. Just making sure this was normal range. About to install Ubuntu and wanted to make sure it was normal
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Android takes up about a gig or so of space. WebOS takes up another gig or so. Plus, the storage space available is measured in base-10, not base-2, so 32 GB is 32,000,000,000 bytes, and when you format it down, overhead and the like takes up a bit more. It's the same with HD's. I have 2x 1TB HD's, and when I formatted them and got them set up together in RAID, I was down to 1.8 TB total space, not the 2.0 one would think I had.
So yes, this is normal.

ve6ay said:
Android takes up about a gig or so of space. WebOS takes up another gig or so. Plus, the storage space available is measured in base-10, not base-2, so 32 GB is 32,000,000,000 bytes, and when you format it down, overhead and the like takes up a bit more. It's the same with HD's. I have 2x 1TB HD's, and when I formatted them and got them set up together in RAID, I was down to 1.8 TB total space, not the 2.0 one would think I had.
So yes, this is normal.
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Thx man!
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What is 16GB about the note..??

Ive been checking my settings but could not find 16GB
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It's the amount of internal storage your device has, although some of it is allocated for the system partition and other things. It has roughly 10gb I believe for user data.
Let me check it again to verifie..
Could it be this: (see first post)
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16gb is partitioned as follows :
1gb - rom/system/data
2gb - user apps/data
11gb or so - usb mass storage
so there is your space
Have you you bought a hard drive? Sure I have a 3TB drive but after formating I'm lucky to have 2.7 TB left. The 16GB is just raw space once partitioned and formated you will never have 16GB. There are some loses in space depending upon what file system you use. All file systems have to have some space set aside for cacheing and system information.
Thanks I Understand now..
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I've one additional question.
What about system space ? It's a place where i can install apps ? Only 1.88 gb ?
Yes "only" 2GB for apps..
As far as I can tell, no phone ever had more than 2GB "except Galaxy Nexus" and most of them did not even reach that capacity..
bartass127 said:
I've one additional question.
What about system space ? It's a place where i can install apps ? Only 1.88 gb ?
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2gb is the unformatted size, once formatted you will always lose some space
matius44 said:
Yes "only" 2GB for apps..
As far as I can tell, no phone ever had more than 2GB "except Galaxy Nexus" and most of them did not even reach that capacity..
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And besides, a lot of large apps like GPS navigation apps or games only store the main program in the apps partition and use another partition or even your external SD card to store data. With the majority of apps not even exceeding 10 or maybe 20MB you can install hundreds of apps.
LOL you are talking about a 16GB my brother got the LG P970 that phone says it has 2GB internal and he has about 1.1GB fir usage now that's a joke, nor being able to use music on the phone.
I do regret getting the 16GB maybe 32GB would have been better but who knows might get a 64GB MicroSD many say it works flawless might be worthy I think...
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REVERSiN said:
LOL you are talking about a 16GB my brother got the LG P970 that phone says it has 2GB internal and he has about 1.1GB fir usage now that's a joke, nor being able to use music on the phone.
I do regret getting the 16GB maybe 32GB would have been better but who knows might get a 64GB MicroSD many say it works flawless might be worthy I think...
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Well, you do need an operating system, don't you? When you buy a 64GB SSD and install Windows you're left with about 50GB or so as well.
bioweb said:
Well, you do need an operating system, don't you? When you buy a 64GB SSD and install Windows you're left with about 50GB or so as well.
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I dont complain its a great phone,the issue is that I made a nistake myself by picking the 16GB I should have waitted fir the buyer till he gets them he said a week but it took him about three to get the 16GB
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[Q] Missing 10.05GB storage on the 64GB HTC One Dev. Edition

Hi Guys,
Have any one of your experienced this? I boot up the phone, went through all the account setups, downloaded a few apps and checked the storage.
Guess what, there's 10.05GB of storage missing! Actually, it's allocated as "Other". How can that be? I haven't connected it to my computer and haven't transferred anything to the device. Is it the OS and system files taking all that space? I can't imagine it needing 10GB though.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Hmm that is weird and I can't imagine sense utilizing that much system memory.
Where did you get dev edition phone and how much did it cost you?
onnLare Kyushu
I bought it through htc for $649.99 USD.
http: / / shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
That's normal
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That's normal??? So how many GB the 32gb version takes??
10gb is way too much
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32 gb using around 6gb
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expertzero1 said:
That's normal
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Completely abnormal when you compare what the system needs to run as opposed what it's reserved for itself.
6GB is bad enough but 10GB is a bonkers amount of space to reserve.
i have the 64GB AT&T version and this is what it shows on my phone
priest9R said:
Sorry but when you say its abnormal then told us why!!! When you buy a harddrive its the same problem.
Your system needs a buffer in cost of your memory. Even more memory smaller the net value.
Same procedure as a harddisk.
Google for it.
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Don't be daft. There's a difference between stated capacity and available capacity of storage. Always has been. That's not what's being discussed.
What is being discussed is the amount of space the OS is reserving.
There's a comparison here to the outcry when windows 7 demanded 21GB of drive space to install all its bloat and drivers.
Suggest you clue yourself in.
cachookaman said:
i have the 64GB AT&T version and this is what it shows on my phone
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Seems like a lot of the space is just being wasted (not being used).
Not complaining though. 54GB is more than plenty for me.
iomayho said:
Seems like a lot of the space is just being wasted (not being used).
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Seems like HTC has been over generous for the amount of space reserved for the OS. Even with the bloat removed it's being a bit greedy.
priest9R said:
5GB (System) It's not daft
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It's excessive.
i think it's normal.

Only 11gb off actual memory of '16gb' advertised

Find it to be verging very close to false advertising when a product sold as a 16gb device in reality is only a 11gb. That's 5 entire gb missing to the OS. That's fairly huge, but either way, don't market something as 16gb. Where's this extra 5 going to exactly?
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Last I hear it was 12.55GB available.
prawnguevara said:
Where's this extra 5 going to exactly?
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OS?
Damn, that's a lot of space gone. More than any carrier bloated phone I've used before. Glad I opted for the 32gb model.
In fact, the total space listed in storage is 12gb, of which almost 11 is 'available'. I don't get it. Surely the total space should be 16gb.
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It's been this way with phones for ages now. The advertised memory always includes the OS reserved partition. And it is 12.5GB last I checked.
prawnguevara said:
In fact, the total space listed in storage is 12gb, of which almost 11 is 'available'. I don't get it. Surely the total space should be 16gb.
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No phone ever has the total amount of space available, though.
could be worse OP,
you could own a Surface RT
prawnguevara said:
Find it to be verging very close to false advertising when a product sold as a 16gb device in reality is only a 11gb. That's 5 entire gb missing to the OS. That's fairly huge, but either way, don't market something as 16gb. Where's this extra 5 going to exactly?
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This isn't anything new? Any device advertised as 16Gb has generally 11-12 Gb effectively available for user storage, rest of it goes into formatting information, OS (system apps etc) and stuff. Also, it's the difference between counting GB as 1000 vs 1024 MB.
prawnguevara said:
Find it to be verging very close to false advertising when a product sold as a 16gb device in reality is only a 11gb. That's 5 entire gb missing to the OS. That's fairly huge, but either way, don't market something as 16gb. Where's this extra 5 going to exactly?
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That does seem like a lot, but straight from their site in the memory specs it says:
Memory
16 GB internal storage (actual formatted capacity will be less)
2 GB RAM
There are always these posts when a new phone comes out. The storage is total, not what is left after the OS is on it. Look at a Samsung or HTC phone and see how much they use, it will blow you away how much space all the skins take, not to mention how much all of the bloatware a carrier puts on it.
The 5gb is taken up with the OS and related files as well as built in apps as well as the disparity between disk size marketing and actual disk size.
All hard drives and memory are marketed with 1GB = 1000MB whereas computers actually define 1 GB as 1024MB, so that already drops you down to about 15gb including file system formatting.
The other 4GB will be the apps and stuff installed that make your phone work.
11GB free is actually pretty good. The Samsung Galaxy S4 only had 9GB free from 16GB.
Wouldn't it be wierd though if they advertised like 20.42 gigs of memory. But I would like one day to actually have 16 gigs of storage.
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tpcrackpipe said:
Damn, that's a lot of space gone. More than any carrier bloated phone I've used before. Glad I opted for the 32gb model.
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The Galaxy S 4 had 8.5GB of free space on the 16GB model.
This is why you bite the bullet and pay $50 more for the 32gb.
Then you won't spend the rest of your days with the phone kicking yourself for not just buying the larger memory device.
Was exactly the same with the n4... No shocks here
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12.55, not 11.
Advertising has been this way for years, on hard drives, etc. Worthless rant >.>
Nothing new, was like that for the Nexus 4 as well.
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bmolloy said:
That does seem like a lot, but straight from their site in the memory specs it says:
Memory
16 GB internal storage (actual formatted capacity will be less)
2 GB RAM
There are always these posts when a new phone comes out. The storage is total, not what is left after the OS is on it. Look at a Samsung or HTC phone and see how much they use, it will blow you away how much space all the skins take, not to mention how much all of the bloatware a carrier puts on it.
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How much memory is taken by Touch Wiz?

For those of you who already have it in your hands, how much memory all the crap from Samsung takes? I am deciding whether to buy the 16 gig version or wait for 32 GB version.
Why spend the extra $$$ on the 32? Just get a microSD card. It allows up to 128 Gigs. It's the cheaper way out. You get more for your money.
xRevilatioNx said:
Why spend the extra $$$ on the 32? Just get a microSD card. It allows up to 128 Gigs. It's the cheaper way out. You get more for your money.
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Because a lot of things can't be installed to the SD card.
Caelrie said:
Because a lot of things can't be installed to the SD card.
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That's the reason
Profit margin is huge for that additional 16GB but at least it is 16gb all freed up. Personally, I'd like to see a mSATA drive put in one.
I bought the 16gb from Amazon got it yesterday. After clicking the window on screen and it installed all the FREE goodies. I had 9gb left. I then installed basically nothing and had 7gb left.
You can go to APP and it shows "install to SD-Card" Yet lets say the program is 700mb and the app is 11. Lol it puts the APP on the sd-card yet leaves the 700mb file on storage (tablet). A tad backwards
So I sent it back and got the 32gb from BestBuy.

[Q] what size did you get?

I went with the 32 since I stream music and don't watch movies on my phone
32 also, cuz Drop Box is my fav app lol and I also stream music. Plust if I download a movie or an episde of a tv show I delete after watching it.
I got 64 cuz backups are like 6 to 8 gigs each. I alway keep a backup of stock and then 1 or 2 custom roms. Those back ups add up.
128 because I wanted to watch everyone else get their phones first
I got the 32 because it was expensive enough and I use a plug usb to do everything else which is a 64GB so that makes up for less internal.
32 cuz I'm poor. Working on setting up wifi backup.
64. A crap ton of photos of the kids. Plus I take a ton anyway. So I need the space.
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64GB, It's only been 4 days and I already used up half of it lol. ~10GB was for the system, the rest was me.
32 because I use Internet stuffs and am around wifi. Also have the USB OTG
64GB because the System itself already takes up 10GB. So getting a 32GB would only leave me around 20GB. I already came from a 32GB device that didn't have a SD card slot, and I was always low. So I had to step up. The 64GB version has 50GB free Out the box. That's sounds much better than 20GB.
64GB. I stream music and all of my pictures are on auto backup to the cloud, so I could've gotten by with 32GB. I just went with the 64GB so I don't need to worry about storage at all.
jonahtriangle said:
I got 64 cuz backups are like 6 to 8 gigs each. I alway keep a backup of stock and then 1 or 2 custom roms. Those back ups add up.
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That's the same one that I bought and I use my device the same way.
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Just picked up my 32gb white s6 loving it so far
32
Yeah I got the 32gb I use google music and have all my photos
On google plus that has about 115gb on my drive so I think I'm safe
I love this phone BTW
I have 1tb on one drive xD
I love gaming and lossless music, so the 128GB option would restrict me the least. Totally would have spent another $100 for a 256GB model.
64gb. One drive and Google Drive.

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