Hello folks, I know ill have no problems flashing the phone to a new rom (not worried about bricking it) but one thing after searching these forums I havnt found is how hard is it to go back to stock if you dont like said rom
I dont even know why I am flashing it, my phone works great, seems snappy enough but im one of those types of people that just has to toy with things.
So id just like some information for you guys first what i asked above but also why do you use custom roms does the phone work better, all I read about is apps not working? is there an added benefit to flashing?
Most important to me though is how hard and the steps to revert back to stock
Thanks alot
sprockets2000 said:
Hello folks, I know ill have no problems flashing the phone to a new rom (not worried about bricking it) but one thing after searching these forums I havnt found is how hard is it to go back to stock if you dont like said rom
I dont even know why I am flashing it, my phone works great, seems snappy enough but im one of those types of people that just has to toy with things.
So id just like some information for you guys first what i asked above but also why do you use custom roms does the phone work better, all I read about is apps not working? is there an added benefit to flashing?
Most important to me though is how hard and the steps to revert back to stock
thanks alot
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Well, all you need to do is download the stock RUU which will return your phone to it's original factory settings. There have been a few people who've encountered an error running this utility to retorn to stock but it has been very rare and has only affected a small percentage of the population of hero owners. Worse-case scenario, you can try and get a warranty replacement or use your TEP plan if you are enrolled in it.
I find I enjoy the phone more with a custom rom for several reasons. It feels more responsive and usable, also I am a true gadget-head and tweaking customizing and playing around with my phone is just in my nature. Android as a platform is well suited to this kind of mentality and is even encouraged.
Of course there is also the current situation we are in that we are able to run a newer version of android than what is available from the manufacturer at this time.
Then you can get into custom themes etc etc.
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
I'd suggest downgrading to the engineering spl, downgrading to rc29 and then waiting for the official OTA to get back to the official ROM.
that's the only STABLE rom out there. the rest is put together, but I personally don't care as I like to make fun of my friends who bought the N1 because they said the g1 would never see froyo.
Living on the edge has it's costs
considering that you're probably using a G1 and I use first gen MT3G and the rate at which new improved phones are coming out in these quick and disposable times, I think it is absolutely amazing that we can stick with new phones, try out there interfaces before they're even released. You're not hacking and I'm not hacking hardcore, but we get faux hack thanks to work of all these people who aren't making a dime on these roms. All lot of these people start like you and me and by flashing learn more and more about these phones. For example, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you can go about using superuser terminal, which is thanks to quite a few people who made it possible for noobs to root their phone in the first place, anyways, in terminal you can decide how much priority you give to the phone apk. Google it. Hell there's a guy on the sapphire forum who's give instructions on how to build your own stock froyo so you can tweak it however you want, check it out, I'm thinking about it.
I was diehard nokia fan up until they sold me a n95 that had 3g, just not here and told me there was nothing they could do about it. I thought their system was open....geez it was nothing compared to this android thing.
the one thing that bites my a** here is seeing response to roms where people have lost focus of important things like manners. I'm not saying this is you, but check it out. Guy like Chrome or such, works super hard releasing a rom every other day and somebody chimes in, wifi doesn't work, or camera is force closing, not a daily driver, I flashing back....What? I mean, how about a thanks for chance to check out something new or hey, how about asking why it might not work and learning the process. Think about it, these guys got to have a day job, cause they ain't making it selling roms or monitoring forums to teach some guy how to flash, but they do it and they don't complain. Very rare to find this kinda service today or even yesterday.
Welcome to the community and learn something about why your phone with a certain rom isn't functioning perfectly, I think you'll be glad you did.
Are you kidding me, how picky are you gonna be? Especially since we are still getting support for the G1. Maybe you would be better off with an iphone. I'm rockin CM6 and damn proud of it.
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a little peculiar,i admit. cyanogen did and does great job.
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I normally flash on a daily basis just for fun and I can tell there are many roms that can be used as a daily rom and stable
one of them is "Eclair" "Super D" for me everything I need is working and fast
there is also a Froyo Rom by LefeuDeDieu that work fast and stable
for 1.6 I found super E the fastest
so I would say You haven't found the right set up for your phone and your needs
Try cyas 6.0 (froyo 2.2) RC1 with the new gapps (FRF91-3).... it flys for me if you don't install too many apps and is very stable (in my opinion more stable than cyas 5.x). If you pump it with apps the internal memory gets low, no matter how much you move to sd or clear the cache (due to the froyo apps2sd method). You can try too get things better with setcpu (compcache made things worse for me), but with too much load cyas 6.0 turns very slow for me.
/edit ... with Firerats CustomParitions (solving the froyo apps2sd low memory issue) and the CM6 Build from studjuce (using launcherpro instead of adw) its as fast as hell :O even faster than Clay's CSDI ... oh man i guess i have a new daily driver :>
For donut (1.6) i prefer HTCClay's CSDI REMIX, which runs stupid fast no matter how much apps you install on your sd-ext. I personally found it faster than Super D / E. This is my daily driver since i randomly use Cyas 6.0.
I assume you have danger SPL since you installed cyas 5x. (if not ... beware )
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considering that you're probably using a G1 and I use first gen MT3G and the rate at which new improved phones are coming out in these quick and disposable times, I think it is absolutely amazing that we can stick with new phones, try out there interfaces before they're even released. You're not hacking and I'm not hacking hardcore, but we get faux hack thanks to work of all these people who aren't making a dime on these roms. All lot of these people start like you and me and by flashing learn more and more about these phones. For example, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you can go about using superuser terminal, which is thanks to quite a few people who made it possible for noobs to root their phone in the first place, anyways, in terminal you can decide how much priority you give to the phone apk. Google it. Hell there's a guy on the sapphire forum who's give instructions on how to build your own stock froyo so you can tweak it however you want, check it out, I'm thinking about it.
I was diehard nokia fan up until they sold me a n95 that had 3g, just not here and told me there was nothing they could do about it. I thought their system was open....geez it was nothing compared to this android thing.
the one thing that bites my a** here is seeing response to roms where people have lost focus of important things like manners. I'm not saying this is you, but check it out. Guy like Chrome or such, works super hard releasing a rom every other day and somebody chimes in, wifi doesn't work, or camera is force closing, not a daily driver, I flashing back....What? I mean, how about a thanks for chance to check out something new or hey, how about asking why it might not work and learning the process. Think about it, these guys got to have a day job, cause they ain't making it selling roms or monitoring forums to teach some guy how to flash, but they do it and they don't complain. Very rare to find this kinda service today or even yesterday.
Welcome to the community and learn something about why your phone with a certain rom isn't functioning perfectly, I think you'll be glad you did.
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Wow I gues you're tying to impress, being a newbie and all, but that's one aweome post... only part I don't get is the "welcome to the forums" in the last paragraph...
paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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Yes. Unroot your phone and get the official updates from t-mobile, sprint, etc. Problem solved, too easy...
paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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OP,
I am sorry for the flames you're receiving for asking a legitimate question. People on this board automatically make the assumption that users only want to use leading edge software. Xda has become very mainstream nowadays. News Media is driving everyday users here who just want an improved experience, but who dont necessarily understand the complexities of development. Does that mean they are not welcome? Absolutely not.
To answer your question, a rom based off donut or eclair will give you the results you are looking for. I specifically use zd donut 1.8 "got donut? " rom(ignore my signature)..... it is fast and stable. But so are the super e and supper d series roms. GivE them a go, you will be thankful. But every now and then flash a new rom just to check it out.
Good luck
Just my 2 cents
I am in the same boat, I like trying out new things but I need my phone for everyday use, that's why I picked up a spare G1 with cracked screen for less then $50 and use it to try out new stuff (currently CM6). My main driver - Super-D 1.9.3, the last stable version that you can actually call stable. I also removed whole bunch of stuff that I don't ever use and added some visual enhancements (clear settings widget, MusicMod, ADW latest launcher). Man, thant thing flyes and not a single FC in over 3 months.
All in all, it's inevitable that most of us will get new phones and these "improvements" will be oushined by stock roms but in the mean time be thankfull for what you get (for free!!!!) and learn enough to customize any rom to the point that it fits your needs.
Somebody else pointed this out earlier, but I'm gonna bring it up again. We're lucky to even have support for 2.1 on D/S. It's not meant for our devices and, yah, there are going to be some bugs, considering it was meant for a different devices. The same goes (pretty much) double for 2.2. When I got my Dream, I didn't imagine we would/could get past 1.6. I was freaking out when I got Eclair for the first time. Now we're on Froyo, same version as the N1, and (for me, at least) it's running better than Donut ever was for me.
While I do agree that we don't have many completely stable roms nowadays, I'm also grateful that we have developers like Cyanogen who still care about the lower income (I say that because I justt don't have the funds to purchase a higher end Android phone as of right now, and I suspect that may be the reason many other people have invested in one either) public enough to keep putting out solid, functional roms.
Count your blessings.
enomther "theofficial" roms are super stable.Keep coming back to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456&highlight=enomther
paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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Here's my top choices of roms that ive found to be extremely fast
and stable as heck.
Donut Roms: 1st choice - Htcclay's superbad/superfast
2nd choice - SuperD.
Eclair Roms: 3rd choice - Chromatic 3.9.1
(Extremely fast and stable for a eclair rom but is nothing compared to those Donut roms.)
paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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Hey paaaaan!
I totally understand where you coming from, I (and probably many users here) have exactly the same problem. When i got my MT3G and first rooted it (more than a year and a half now) i was trying out a different ROM everyday, just polaying around and having fun. Cyan's ROM's never really worked out for me and i think i got a bit traumatised about it (although i recognize the invaluable contribution he's been to the Android community - it just couldn't possible be the same scene without him and Google should, if it hasn't already, recognize this fact. But after some time i started wanting to have a stable rom, just something that wouldn't hang out on me or lagged all the time - this was quite some time ago, mind you, the Hero sense ROMs were coming out for the first time and 1.6 had just been released. after many tries i stuck with Dwang's Donut build (no longer developed) which at the time was the fastest and most stable ROM i found. I stuck in my head that none of the latest versions of Android would run as smooth in my phone so i stayed with Dwang's (flashing it every month or so) until very recently actually.
I don't really remember why but i decided to give a go to the newest ROM's after reading so much praise for them in here... and i must confess i was really taken back by how far the development had come and what i had missed. I've tried Cannon202 Complete Eclair 2.2, Clay's SuperBad 1.6 & 1.7 and now on Chromatic 3.9.1 and i must say they all are stable enough for everyday use, according to my standards. Now, you must note that many times what makes the ROM unstable is not the ROM itself but how you flash it and how you fill it. I ALWAYS wipe completely before flashing a ROM - and don't just do a complete wipe in recovery but actually use fastboot to wipe the system as well. Another thing you must note is the amount of apps you throw at it, and how fast i do it. If i install or recover all my apps after install no ROM holds stable... instead i go installing them little by little, as i need them... i found out that with the exact same ROM this makes a HUGE difference! Also, after you flash, wait for it to settle down before you start configuring it... i normally also do one or two reboots before i start tweaking anything or installing apps. Compcache and swap never really worked for me so i don't use it (though i do have the SD partioned for that). SetCPU and the right configuration on the settings of the phone (try Chrome's post-boot set-up on his Cromatic thread) make a huge difference.
I must confess i really like Clay's SUPERBAD ROM (1.6 actually works better for me then 1.7) but it seems it has been discontinued, unfortunately; and i still haven't tried any Froyo build (waiting for it to mature, let some problems be solved.... nothing really in it that i can't live without); but i consider all Eclair ROM's i've tried based of Cyan's 5.0.8 perfect for everyday use. I mean, they are faster than the stock Vodafone ROM it came with the phone. Of course, you will have problems after a while and need to rewipe and reflash but that is exactly why you rooted your phone right?
Greetings,
I got a GT-I9000 which will become my main phone. But, before that, I’d like to install the best, most stable, firmware for it.
I prefer stability, and having all the features operational, to speed. I don’t need something ultra-tweaked to be super-fast.
I just want to use all the capabilities of the phone without having to worry if a problem is the phone’s fault or the firmware’s.
I’ve seen a few threads around, with many firmwares, but none made a good comparison or gave me a final decision (maybe because there is none).
I’ll be using the phone in Portugal (don’t know if this is that relevant to the answers).
Thanks.
Edit: I'm not necessarily looking for Android 4. If 3.5.x or something is the best option for now, I'm ok with it.
Hi, try this one out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1489213
It's realy fast and stable, it's worth a try
I think DarkyRom (http://www.darkyrom.com) (Gingerbread) is what you are looking for.
I have been using it for over 6 months and it was pretty stable. I use v10.2.2 and never felt the need to go for 10.4.2.
Yesterday I switch to Dark Knight (ICS) hoping it will be better. I am more concern about battery consumption so I am still trying this one out. Maybe I'll stick with it, maybe I'll go back to Darky. But as of now I would say it's a bit snappier, could be a placebo effect.
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I have been using it for over 6 months and it was pretty stable. I use v10.2.2 and never felt the need to go for 10.4.2.
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Dude, i have been on Darky 10.2.2 for long, i faced a lot of issues with heavy applications and all the games. Data connection was another big issue. Ported to ICSSGS now, still experimenting
Hello everyone, my first thread for this phone, used to be a Galaxy Ace user, now I have this great phone. As of now, I'm stuck at a branded fw (JVG OMN) because I'm a little afraid of losing warranty. It's weird because I used to flash my Ace like hell. Now I can't even help rooting SGS.
Anyway, I'll eventually come around at flashing some rom, there are so many of them. Hence I'd like some suggestions. My main concerns are:
1. Battery durability @ 3G (browsing the net 5hr per day at most)
2. In-call quality (no random reboots plz)
3. GPS reliability (no battery hog, if possible)
4. ICS (is it too early?)
I know you've all been asked for this before, but I'm not asking for miracles, I can understand the limits of undergoing development. I would like a sincere suggestion.
Try GB ROMS for now
shatteringlass said:
Hello everyone, my first thread for this phone, used to be a Galaxy Ace user, now I have this great phone. As of now, I'm stuck at a branded fw (JVG OMN) because I'm a little afraid of losing warranty. It's weird because I used to flash my Ace like hell. Now I can't even help rooting SGS.
Anyway, I'll eventually come around at flashing some rom, there are so many of them. Hence I'd like some suggestions. My main concerns are:
1. Battery durability @ 3G (browsing the net 5hr per day at most)
2. In-call quality (no random reboots plz)
3. GPS reliability (no battery hog, if possible)
4. ICS (is it too early?)
I know you've all been asked for this before, but I'm not asking for miracles, I can understand the limits of undergoing development. I would like a sincere suggestion.
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With the conditions you have placed i dont think any ICS ROM can live up to that expectation GB ROMS.
Amestris ROM has the best battery life. I have never faced any issue with calls or GPS.
MIUI ROMS are superb option if u hate SAMSUNG touchwiz . They will give u iphone feel on android
If you too eager to test then try ICS ROMs. Battery life and performance wont be that good. But within months everything will fall in its place
ALL THE BEST ..
Thank you. I was expecting the fact that ICS still can't live up to my expectations, and I have no problem waiting for some perfect release. I was just wondering if that day will ever come, seen that many phones (some of which nowhere nearly as good as sgs) are getting smooth ics working. I put all my trust in our devs.
As for Amestris, I really do not dig themed interfaces. I prefer to get a rom as clean as possible and do my own theming when i feel ok about it. But probably it's just me.
I'm ok with touchwiz but I do like MIUI...I just can't understand whether it's been optimized for our device (i mean, everything works as good as in stock? or better?!).
I`ve been using the cm9 beta by pawitp(team hacksung cm9 beta) for months now and not had any of the issues that concern you and as of yesterday the i9000 is in the nightly builds of cyanogen mod 9 and this awsome ics rom will only get better....get rooting and flashing again , you know you want to!!!
I also place a lot of emphasis on stability, have been using the ICSSGS rom and haven't had any random reboots yet (2 weeks?)
I would like to know about latest CM9 nightly...is it worth it?
And also, some say that SlimICS is the best out here because "for the Galaxy S, the limiting factor in running ICS smoothly is none other than ram". Is this true?
I tried several custom ROM's amd at the moment I would say that the best, I mean the fastest and the most stable are ROM's made by BHuvan goyal. The latest INFINITUM with default kernel would be good for you. I've noticed that the battery life is not shorter than on gb so you would be really satisfied.
Ok so I've been on serendipity 7 for a while now, and since I did that i've dropped pretty much from keeping up to date on any thing rom related.. My phone starts acting funny sometimes so I think its time for an update..
So I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to which rom to use. My preferences are that its very fast and responsive on the cappy, very stable and nearly bug free.. GPS that works with <30s lock time..
I've thought of trying CM7 or even CM9 for that matter since I think ICS looks pretty good.
Tho I'd like to hear people's suggestions that have done nothing but flash different roms on a daily basis to try out..
Thank you for any suggestions made..
To suggest again, read the threads try a few and see what fits you best.
This thread will self destruct in 3.....2.......1
See I would try other roms, to see which I like best, however I just don't have the time to sit there and flash roms over and over again, I'm a busy person that needs his phone to just work with the apps that I need.. So I can't be flashing each day to install apps each day to try to find which rom I like best out of the hundreds there are..
Which is why I asked for anyone's suggestions that have tried multiple roms already. I've already looked around and really can't decide on one, which is why, again I'm asking for a little assistance. I don't need people like you to come in here telling me to go look when thats what I've already done..
Well, based off your comments it sounds like you should leave it stock or what you already have.
Since you don't have time to hack things around, it's not best to switch when you already have something installed or could go to a stock working/rooted phone.
Ask each person here and you may get a different answer, its a preference thing.
Really a loaded question.
Best thing to do is to try them each out, but you don't have the time - so...
Try out Doc's Master ICS V12, best rom there is. I have install many different roms and i always felt there is something missing. You will like it if you give it a try.
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See I would try other roms, to see which I like best, however I just don't have the time to sit there and flash roms over and over again, I'm a busy person that needs his phone to just work with the apps that I need.. So I can't be flashing each day to install apps each day to try to find which rom I like best out of the hundreds there are..
Which is why I asked for anyone's suggestions that have tried multiple roms already. I've already looked around and really can't decide on one, which is why, again I'm asking for a little assistance. I don't need people like you to come in here telling me to go look when thats what I've already done..
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We are all the same. Point being, spend some time to read about each rom thread and comments and decide what you want for yourself. There's no easy way out, asking here will give you mixed responses. If you dont wanna pit the time to try roms, then stay on stock. Its simple and works without problems=the real time saver.
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It's nice to get people's suggestions, (especially developers and testers) when it comes to the different options.
In my unprofessional opinion, CM9 was very smooth for me, and the most stable one I've tried so far. I like the look and customization of aokp nostalgia, which is what I'm currently on. I was on Doc's Master 11, and that was nice as well. besides that I haven't tried the others yet, so I can't give you too much more. Good luck!