I haven't received my Galaxy S yet but everytime I use my friend's I think the screen is just too blueish. Mostly the white parts. And I also think a "square field" is visible all over the screen. Is this because the resolution is too low compared to the size?
The phone itself is great so I still want it, but I'm afraid the screen will make me disapointed, especially since I've read so much about the Super AMOLED is so great.
Are all Galaxy S' screens like this?
What is the "square field"? please explain better.
And let's start from clearing the point of resolution/size-
800X480 is more than enough to go up to 7". If anything, it might be the pentile matrix that the screen uses.
I guess it's these "squares" I see: http://www.engadget.com/photos/iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-display-face-off/#3115591
You're probably right that it's more the pentile matrix I notice more than lack of resolution.
I cant understand why many reviews says this screen is very good when it's very noticable.
I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
Mithent said:
I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
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What's the good side with PenTile? And yes, I've searched for "screen-door effect" and it seems as if that is what I'm seeing.
Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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What is the downside of losing video overlay?
Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Oh. Well, guess I'm not going with that solution then
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
rocketpaul said:
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Ok, guess I'll have to wait until I get my before I know how bad it is.
My friend got a blueish Galaxy S I9000. Mine isnt that much!! Next to his looks like mine is Redish, but mine next to my Monitor looks blueish! I believe some Screens have more blue tint than others
Mine is very white. Put the phone on a white screen (using a screen torch app) and the screen looks whiter than a piece of white paper.
Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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I´ve read something on a German Mobile Phone Review Site (don´t know the which one it was now) and they said, that this is normal, because of the AMOLED Tecnology. They said that the Colors will loose the intensity over the years and as blue is the most energetic Color in the spectrum it looses faster the intensity. That is why it looks now maybe a little bit diferent. After a while it should normalise, because it was planned by the manufactures.
Ok found the Site. Heres the translation:
Higher blue components of the display of the Galaxy S may have been deliberately created by Samsung with the idea that the blue OLEDs are aging much faster than green or red. After months of use should mitigate this effect and color balance to be balanced.
djr83 said:
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
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They could do that if they wanted to, yes. But don't expect them to do so, I don't think colour temperature is of any importance to them if it stays within usable range.
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Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
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Got this tip a while ago on some other thread - you can start Video player, play some video, go to Settings and change the Colour tone to Warm. It stays changed even when you leave the player. It's not perfect, but it helps a bit.
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I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Actually, YES! Your eye do adjust to the white that you are looking at.
You've been doing this all of your life and haven't noticed it. The light in the morning is a very different color than the light at noon. In the morning, it is likely very red if the weather is good, and very white at noon... yet everything looks normal to you... because your eyes adapt to the color.
Adjusting to your screen is the same way. But compare it side by side with another screen and one or the other is going to look "wrong", usually the one you haven't been staring at all day!
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I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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Congratulations, your brain has created a special filter, using a process called "adaption", by the human vision scientists, that blocks the screen-door effect. You didn't know it, but your brain created one years ago that blocked out the 'striped-lawn' effect caused by the columns of RGB subpixels on conventional color displays. That 'striped-lawn' effect was just as visible the first time you saw one, but that was likely many years ago.
Okay so this blue tint thing is somewhat strange, still no clear answers.
Some people are saying "this is normal for super amoleds." I have to disagree. If this was normal, then every single Super Amoled would have this blue tint. I've put my samsung galaxy s vibrant side by side next to the samsung galaxy s epic, fascinate, captivate and other vibrants. Some have a blue tint, and others don't. Others have nice rich whites, while some like mine have a blue tint.
Makes no sense, so I'm not buying the "all super amoleds have this blue tint" statement. They don't all have them!
I've used my phone for over 2 months now, and the blue tint is not fading at all. Something else people said. I don't plan to keep this phone for 10 years, waiting for the blue to fade, I want nice white now, not blue whites.
Anyone have any updates on this blue tint some galaxy s phones show?
Does the US T-Mobile version have a S-LCD screen or a TFT? Every review has a different answer it's driving me crazy! I cant tell I have a TFT on my G2 and the HD7 screen looks better but it might just be because its 4.3".
Honestly I would tweet this one @HTC on twitter and trend #wp7 to put some pressure on them to answer.
The best way to get the most accurate answer would be to tweet @htc the question and trend #wp7 in the same tweet so they actually answer it in this lifetime.
It is a normal TFT, not a S-LCD.
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It is a normal TFT, not a S-LCD.
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well thats a bummer
Halabeaster54 said:
Does the US T-Mobile version have a S-LCD screen or a TFT? Every review has a different answer it's driving me crazy! I cant tell I have a TFT on my G2 and the HD7 screen looks better but it might just be because its 4.3".
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From what I can see and almost every review and or tech specs I have seen it is a Super LCD screen.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2636&c=htc_hd7_16gb
They are nonsense tech specs that have never been been given out by HTC. Look at a direct comparison between an SLCD screen liek hte HTC Mozrt against the HTC 7, and you'll notice the HD7's is far much inferior. That, and it appears to give the same colour reproduction as the HD2.
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They are nonsense tech specs that have never been been given out by HTC. Look at a direct comparison between an SLCD screen liek hte HTC Mozrt against the HTC 7, and you'll notice the HD7's is far much inferior. That, and it appears to give the same colour reproduction as the HD2.
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http://www.totech.net/htc-hd7-technical-specifications
http://mobile.softpedia.com/phones/HTC/HTC-HD7.shtml
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/t-mobile-htc-hd7-review
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-HD7-Review_id2582
http://www.tbnews.info/677/hd7-top-of-the-range-windows-mobile-7-with-s-lcd/
http://www.techhail.com/mobiles/htc-hd7-vs-htc-7-surround-vs-htc-7-mozart-vs-htc-7-trophy/9369
http://otakugadgets.com/cell-phones/htc-ditches-amoled-good-phones-moves-s-lcd/
These are just some of the links that do state it does have a SLCD. Even if it had just a TFT LCD I still would love the device. Coming from a Vibrant on T-Mobile I noticed that with the SAMOLED displays that the colors are over saturated and not a true representation (that is my opinion though). It also looks like as Super TFT screens are also knows as SLCD screens according to the last article i posted
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And none of those articles state any official HTC source >.< Its also worth noting that ordiniary LCD's also don't give accruate colour reproduction, instead giving dull, undersaturated, cold feeling colours. Depends whether you prefer vibrancy or not - most people prefer more vibrancy
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hi guys any of you have shifted from a galaxyS to an hd7? Was it worth it.. as considering there are few messenger apps in the market? im thinkin of shifting from "fragmented android" to WP7. Just the thing that worries me is i could just find one messenger app out there.. namely FIM. I really love the Metro UI
Moreover GSMarena seems to be complaining about the sensitivity of the screen. Is it true that its not sensitive..also the blurry text issue.. If someone could please shed some light on this.. Thanks
I'm not having any issues w screen sensitivity. also, my screen is bright, clear and doesnt suffer from some of the issues from some reviews. however, the display sets i used all had poor screens and fade when viewed from an angle.
bought mine in singapore and the screen is better than my hd2 screen.
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I'm not having any issues w screen sensitivity. also, my screen is bright, clear and doesnt suffer from some of the issues from some reviews. however, the display sets i used all had poor screens and fade when viewed from an angle.
bought mine in singapore and the screen is better than my hd2 screen.
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Thanks for the tip. I didnt get this part though."the display sets i used all had poor screens" yu mean had replaced your HD7 a couple of times till you got one with the right screen?
I got my first nexus 7 on Tuesday, but there was something stuck under the screen. So I ordered a new one and it got here today. The first thing I noticed is that the screen color on each screen were different. My old one had pure whites, like it should, now my new one has a weird tint to it, making the whites look crappy and un-natural. Has anyone else noticed it? And does anyone know if it is possible to change the screen color?
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The first thing I noticed is that the screen color on each screen were different. My old one had pure whites, like it should, now my new one has a weird tint to it, making the whites look crappy and un-natural. Has anyone else noticed it?
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I don't have Nexus 7 yet, but I have the same experience with my Samsung Galaxy W. I am very satisfied with my SGW display, it has pure whites without any tint. I must say that it is my best LCD on mobile device so far. But I was shocked when I saw another SGW of my colleague. His display has very yellowish tint and both displays side to side look like they are from different phones. What is strange, for him both looks like the same, so he is happy with his display as I am with mine.
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And does anyone know if it is possible to change the screen color?
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I don't think so. If you aren't satisfied with it, change it again, because primarily the display quality makes the Tablet just ordinary or exceptional or lemon.
I've read about phones having screens from 2 different manufacturers before as well. Not saying the N7 is like that, but it is possible.
Good afternoon for all! I need your help! Yesterday I accidentally dropped my phone and when I looked at the screen I noticed two little problems, it works perfectly, but it has one dark scratch and a little dark spot, but I don't know if they are in the Touch Panel (Or Gorilla Glass, I don't Know) Or they are in the LCD Panel. The Scratch looks dark in front, but if you look putting the phone aside, it illuminates and looks white. The Dark spot becomes larger if you apply pressure. This two problems are almost not noticeable until I open White or Clear colors screens.
I would be very grateful if someone could help me to know from where is the problem, the Digitalizer or from the LCD. Sorry for my bad english! I Still learning!
It's the LCD, i had the same problem with my phone.
Thank's!
Hakkinan said:
It's the LCD, i had the same problem with my phone.
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Really? :/ Thanks bro, do you know how much do they cost? (The digitalizer and the LCD?
ejsmsupersoyelm said:
Really? :/ Thanks bro, do you know how much do they cost? (The digitalizer and the LCD?
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I have no idea bro, fortunately i got a replacement.
When I look at the top and bottom part of my screen it is noticeably more white than the huge middle part of the screen, the middle is more oringish then the top and bottom it is really annoying please help
Welcome to AMOLED
Well, that is not normal, my screen does not display colors as you describe
If you have had your device for less than 14 days. Then I would recommend that you take it back to the retailer and get a replacement unit. As the display on your device is probably faulty.
If you have had your device longer than I would take it to a Samsung Service Center and let them take a look at it.
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Welcome to AMOLED
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Btw, what do you mean with this? Are you implying that amoled screens look bad or what?
Not at all but whites never really look white because the way the tech works, as it's organic 2 displays are Never really the same. On a plus note black are deeper and could more punchy than a LCD
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Not at all but whites never really look white because the way the tech works, as it's organic 2 displays are Never really the same. On a plus note black are deeper and could more punchy than a LCD
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Sure, but those are normal with amoled, unlike OP's issues which are not. That's why saying "welcome to amoled" is a little misleading.