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[Q] Just purchased the p3710 tab

Hello all,
I've purchased this tablet last Saturday. I have read a couple of threads on this forum and now I've got a couple of questions. Note that I am an absolute noob on rooting and roms.
1. What are the benefits of rooting the device?
2. If I would root the tablet, is it still possible to receive the software updates from Samsung? (i.e. when ICS is finally rolled out officially).
3. What ROM would you guys recommend? A version of ICS or the Overcome version?
4. Is it easy to get back to the Stock version?
I hope you guys can help me!
Thanks in advance!
Trea

I have rooted my Tab for one reason and one reason only.... I wanted to use What'sapp on it and for that it needed to be rooted. If you are rooted you can remove system apps. I have always ran custom roms on my phones but have held off changing the rom of my Tab, but only cuz I don't wanna have to sort out all my apps etc out. You will still get updates from Samsung whilst being rooted.

1. What are the benefits of rooting the device?
To numerous to list, not the least of which is the list of apps I run that require root and the flexibility to make customizations otherwise not possible.
2. If I would root the tablet, is it still possible to receive the software updates from Samsung? (i.e. when ICS is finally rolled out officially).
Yes.
3. What ROM would you guys recommend? A version of ICS or the Overcome version?
Galaxian Soup or CM9, both of which are ICS.
4. Is it easy to get back to the Stock version?
Yes, if you also install Clockworkmod Recovery and do a nandroid backup. But chances are you won't want to. It becomes an entirely new device under ICS. (But backup your stock ROM anyway.)

CafeKampuchia said:
1. What are the benefits of rooting the device?
To numerous to list, not the least of which is the list of apps I run that require root and the flexibility to make customizations otherwise not possible.
2. If I would root the tablet, is it still possible to receive the software updates from Samsung? (i.e. when ICS is finally rolled out officially).
Yes.
3. What ROM would you guys recommend? A version of ICS or the Overcome version?
Galaxian Soup or CM9, both of which are ICS.
4. Is it easy to get back to the Stock version?
Yes, if you also install Clockworkmod Recovery and do a nandroid backup. But chances are you won't want to. It becomes an entirely new device under ICS. (But backup your stock ROM anyway.)
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Thanks for the info! I've rooted the device and installed Clockworkmod recovery. Now I plan on installing ICS tonight (battery was almost empty so I figured I should charge it first before putting on a different ROM)
What are the differences between the Galaxian Soup and CM9? Also is it recommended to install the google apps zip?
Thanks again!

Be aware that the camera does not work on the ICS roms, so if you are going to need the camera then it would be stock rom or Overcome.

Trea2409 said:
Thanks for the info! I've rooted the device and installed Clockworkmod recovery. Now I plan on installing ICS tonight (battery was almost empty so I figured I should charge it first before putting on a different ROM)
What are the differences between the Galaxian Soup and CM9? Also is it recommended to install the google apps zip?
Thanks again!
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i never use gapps. flash it if you use gmail or gtalk or maps or any other google stuff.
i also recommend you to install the latest aokp (b33, which doesn't have a galaxian soup version yet, but you can find the link in the gs thread).
i have cm9 now but it has wifi and Bluetooth issues for me (and some other users). i'm just waiting for galaxian soup to release a 3g version. but you have gt7310 so you're good to go.

safir187 said:
i never use gapps. flash it if you use gmail or gtalk or maps or any other google stuff.
i also recommend you to install the latest aokp (b33, which doesn't have a galaxian soup version yet, but you can find the link in the gs thread).
i have cm9 now but it has wifi and Bluetooth issues for me (and some other users). i'm just waiting for galaxian soup to release a 3g version. but you have gt7310 so you're good to go.
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Alright thanks! I'll flash it then because I use gmail and maps.
Ill check out the galaxian soup version .

Trea2409 said:
What are the differences between the Galaxian Soup and CM9? Also is it recommended to install the google apps zip?
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Galaxian Soup has two versions for both 7300 & 7310, both updated regularly. The AOSP version is as close to Google's implementation of ICS possible. The AOKP version offers a lot more control of the ROM and has some nice additional features. Safariking has posted his own version of AOKP (7310 only) and I've never used it because I have a 7300.
CM9 is Cyanogenmod's implementation of ICS. It's a lot like stock ICS but has different standard apps with a slightly different feel and a few different controls.
I've tried all three and prefer AOSP over AOKP (probably in the minority here), though I might switch to CM9 for a while just to stay familiar with it.
Yes, you probably will need Google apps and there really isn't a great reason not to have them onboard.

Thanks for the info!
I've just installed the AOSP version with the google apps and it works great! The tab is a lot faster like this!
The only "problem" I have is that the screen goes on and off when I go from landscape to portrait, is that normal?

Trea2409 said:
Thanks for the info!
I've just installed the AOSP version with the google apps and it works great! The tab is a lot faster like this!
The only "problem" I have is that the screen goes on and off when I go from landscape to portrait, is that normal?
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yes that is a known issue of all current ics roms

safir187 said:
yes that is a known issue of all current ics roms
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AFAIK, this has been an issue for Galaxian Soup AOSP since alpha. After months of bouncing between AOSP ICS, and stock, I've finally had enough of touchwiz to last a lifetime. I will be rocking AOSP ICS for a while... I can wait for the Sammy ICS update to resolve all the minor bugs for the ICS roms. When I ran the Alpha ICS rom, I was shocked at the stability and performance of an alpha, and its only gotten better since. Hats off to the Galaxian Soup devs

Non ICS Leak Roms?

Hey everyone.. I know i am not the only one that is wondering about this but i am just not cool with the fact you can not revert to GB. I am running eclipse right now and was wondering if there are any other non ICS leak roms? Thanks in advance everyone.

There's one called the artic . I think ppl didn't make many gb roms because ics leaks were fast approaching. I was considering trying my hand at getting another gb rom together but eclipse is quite nice...calmed my flash itch and I am trying to b patient for an official ics ota
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Many people have reported being able to revert to GB. There is a whole tool dedicated to switching between ICS leaks and GB builds. It just sometimes takes them a few times. I'm on the 213 leak, though, and I'm planning on sticking with it until there is an official release (It works great).

No one has been able to go from an ICS leak back to GB. No one.
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omniuni said:
Many people have reported being able to revert to GB. There is a whole tool dedicated to switching between ICS leaks and GB builds. It just sometimes takes them a few times. I'm on the 213 leak, though, and I'm planning on sticking with it until there is an official release (It works great).
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You cannot go back to GB. What the tool does, is reload the GB files needed in order to flash another version of ICS. YOU CANNOT REVERT BACK TO GB. LOCKED BOOTLOADER.

[Q] Most reliable, yet visually fun TW based custom ROM (preferably JB, or ICS)?

First off-hold your guns!
I know JB as such isn't out yet, and can't be expected to be as stable as ICS... But, still- after watching video reviews of some custom ROMs, one asks themselves, if they should give it a go...
Ok, so I am running stock (LAME!!!, I know ) GB, rooted and couple of launchers make it more interesting, sure... However, after browsing through this lovely and extremely helpful forum, I noticed that there are people who are already enjoying the benefits of running JB ROMs, or very good and matured TW based ICS custom ROMs...
1. So, I know ICS stock kernel has been a bit of a problem, what that just 4.03, or did 4.04 fix that?
2.Kill be for being so easily pleased, but I do find my Note and its current ROM already pretty smooth... I know all the bits that ICS makes it better and even more so JB, but considering all the things ICS brought, is there a point of trying JB, except for experimenting?
3. One thing I am so after, is that bit where from the lock screen you have like 3, or 4 options, one of them being going straight into the camera mode. I don't know if that is only JB, but I could really use it, as the old way (press the menu button, swipe to unlock, then press the camera icon) so many times made me miss the scene I wanted to take a photo of. So, any info on that would be much appreciated.
4.So much hype around GN II, but seeing that so many features are being ported to GN I custom ROMs, I am only after a ROM which will have those new and useful S III and GN II bits sawn onto the old(er) jacket.
5. I am in no rush, so do you think that in 3-4 weeks something more stable JB based will be available(official JB update should be rolling out soon, no)?
Big thanks to all you guys here, not just for answering the questions, but also all the tutorials and topics we noobs can find here... Keep up the good work.

See custom jb roms are stable like cm10 aosp liquidsmooth etc.you will feel smooth quality on it and butter project.
Ics 4.0.4 is very stable and has many mods and a good battery life too.
So lastly its your choice which one to flash.
Hit thanks button pleass
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Answering the title of your thread, there are no TW-based JB roms yet. All the TW-based ROMs are ICS. So if you are looking for smooth and reliable TW-based ROMs I would go for Kingdroid (ICS). If you want Jelly Bean you have ParanoidAndroid, Liquidsmooth, but these are not TW-based.
And answering the 5 questions in the contents of your post:
1. The problem is not with the kernel, the problem is with the chip itself, the *workaround* is using a modified kernel that does not use the MMC_CAP_ERASE command, so to answer your question, no the problem isn't solved and it won't be solved unless Samsung recalls all the units and gives out new ones without the bug. You will have to be careful when upgrading to ICS/JB because you will need to use safe kernels.
2. Jelly bean is definitely smoother than ICS, it is worth upgrading IMO.
3. That is the ICS/JB unlock screen that comes in stock android, and it is also available in most AOSP/AOKP ROMs. It is not available by default in Touchwiz but you can download that lockscreen from the Play Store as a standalone app and replace it.
4. Not all the Note2 features have been ported to the Note1, for instance the multi-window view is not available on any ROM yet as far as I know.
5. I have made the switch because I can't stand the look of Touchwiz, the complete disregard of Google's Holo design is for me a reason enough to switch to AOSP/AOKP, that said even when official JB ROMs start rolling out I probably won't come back to Touchwiz.

I think that you need a stock ICS TW rom, maybe RocketRom or Alliance v2.1 rom. I have tried a couple JB roms, but it feels like you have giant nexus insted of a great note.
If you want stock, pick up a last 4.0.4 xxlrt or ddlr9 or something similar, depends where you live but it's not too important. After that, just flash PhilZ kernel and you are safe, disable all aplications that you dont need, and thats it.
Or if you want a custom rom which is great like stock and cool like custom, choose rocketrom v12 or alliance v2.1
Hope that helps!

Ooooohhh-dann so...
Well, that clears so many things...
I mean, am no Samsung fan boy. It is just that I edit many pdf docs on the go, and other TW apps are very useful as they bring the functionality and the precision of the S Pen... As I said. I even find stock GB smooth, so I believe ICS should feel like heaven for me.
BIG QUESTION = so, since the problem was the chip, not the stock kernel itself, and the only solution is a modification of kernel, surely Google will include the workaround in a new JB update, no?
I haven't updated OTA to ICS, because I was scared of bricking the phone, or something.... Are the updates incremental, or so I need to update to official ICS and then to JB, or will I be able to go straight to JB (official one)?
I think I might go for Kingdroid (ICS), or Sweet ROM... Though, I from reading their respective threads, I get the idea that less people have issues with Sweet ROM....
Thanks again...

Ota update from GB ROM is safe because GB kernel is safe. Or can download stock ICS from Dr Ketan and flash with pc odin. Then flash appropriate Philz kernel (can do it from stock recovery). You will then be on safe stock kernel (only brick bug is disabled) with advanced CWM recovery. Once on Phils u can backups/restores and flash any ROM u like. Just have to do full wipe before flashing new ROMs.
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cmick30 said:
Ooooohhh-dann so...
Well, that clears so many things...
I mean, am no Samsung fan boy. It is just that I edit many pdf docs on the go, and other TW apps are very useful as they bring the functionality and the precision of the S Pen... As I said. I even find stock GB smooth, so I believe ICS should feel like heaven for me.
BIG QUESTION = so, since the problem was the chip, not the stock kernel itself, and the only solution is a modification of kernel, surely Google will include the workaround in a new JB update, no?
I haven't updated OTA to ICS, because I was scared of bricking the phone, or something.... Are the updates incremental, or so I need to update to official ICS and then to JB, or will I be able to go straight to JB (official one)?
I think I might go for Kingdroid (ICS), or Sweet ROM... Though, I from reading their respective threads, I get the idea that less people have issues with Sweet ROM....
Thanks again...
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You could try ics stock rom with non stock kernel, i my self use notecore and hydracore kernel while i am using ics rom.
This will give you another experience..
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JB for our Optimus 2x

By any way is it possible that LG will upgrade it to JB, or is possible for xda developers to upgrade current stock ICS to JB?
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CM10.x is JB...

LG's junk isn't needed and therefore it isn't even worth asking/waiting for. We finally got all we wanted from them, now enjoy CM10.

I think the best way for us is using CM10 ROM, such as in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058231

Just a tip. When you're upgrading to CM10 you should have installed CM7 at some earlier point. Easy fix for the SD card bug. Took me half a day to find this out.

Plus use new ICS bootloader, it fix slow charge and minimize call bug

Custom40 said:
LG's junk isn't needed and therefore it isn't even worth asking/waiting for. We finally got all we wanted from them, now enjoy CM10.
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Well if we didn't have "LG's junk" RC wouldn't have been able to build CM10 as it is now

All you need to build a perfectly good JB ROM without any JB update are device-specific ICS source code and an unlocked bootloader. JB and ICS are still very much the same under the hood, much like the case with Froyo and GB. Back in those days you could also build GB ROMs out of Froyo sources I believe (the O2X got CM7 quite some time before its official GB update arrived).
CM10 is as good as JB can get on our device. I believe the only JB-specific feature we don't have is true vsync, aka no Project Butter, but that's not a deal breaker as it's hardly noticeable.
If you look at recent news, no OEM wants to bring JB to a 512 MB RAM device because their stupid skins like Sense/Touchwiz/LG UI eat up so much memory that allocating more for vsync would make performance atrocious. The only exception is the Nexus S simply because it doesn't have that bloat to deal with.

My problem is with CM10 I can not have 3G calls, FM radio, Polaris office etc.

fundoosite said:
My problem is with CM10 I can not have 3G calls, FM radio, Polaris office etc.
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Use stock ics if you want those features
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I believe we will get a stable cm10 later.
better than any stock rom

[Q] AOSP Roms ICS and JB (Not a question about best rom)

From what I read from other threads, it appears that the ICS and JB roms are quite stable enough as a daily driver. I have a few questions regarding these Roms. I'm still running the Apex rom which is an i9000 stock based rom on 2.3.6 for the past year or so. It has been working very well for me. I'm kinda inching to running a JB or ICS rom because of some apps wouldn't run on anything less than ICS or JB.
1. My main concern that stopped me from running ICS or JB is the EU bug. What are the chances of one who never had it before to get it?
2. I know Adobe stopped providing flash support for JB, so now because I'll be running a custom rom, will there be flash support on those roms?
3. The state of 4.2.1 appears to still be in beta for most roms, so I would assume 4.1.2 is more stable than the former, but I would like to know how does 4.1.2 compare with 4.0.4 in terms of stability?
4. I've ran CM7.1 before which was an AOSP rom, but I experienced really bad battery problems. I've tried it a few times, and nothing works to solve it, so I always end up going back to the APex Rom. Because the JB and ICS roms are AOSP-based, how would these roms compare with the stock based roms and CM7 in terms of battery life?
I really want to be sure I want to flash JB or ICS. I would like to breathe some new life into my 2.5 year old phone, but just want to make sure I know what I'm getting into first.
Thanks in advance.

likiud said:
From what I read from other threads, it appears that the ICS and JB roms are quite stable enough as a daily driver. I have a few questions regarding these Roms. I'm still running the Apex rom which is an i9000 stock based rom on 2.3.6 for the past year or so. It has been working very well for me. I'm kinda inching to running a JB or ICS rom because of some apps wouldn't run on anything less than ICS or JB.
1. My main concern that stopped me from running ICS or JB is the EU bug. What are the chances of one who never had it before to get it?
2. I know Adobe stopped providing flash support for JB, so now because I'll be running a custom rom, will there be flash support on those roms?
3. The state of 4.2.1 appears to still be in beta for most roms, so I would assume 4.1.2 is more stable than the former, but I would like to know how does 4.1.2 compare with 4.0.4 in terms of stability?
4. I've ran CM7.1 before which was an AOSP rom, but I experienced really bad battery problems. I've tried it a few times, and nothing works to solve it, so I always end up going back to the APex Rom. Because the JB and ICS roms are AOSP-based, how would these roms compare with the stock based roms and CM7 in terms of battery life?
I really want to be sure I want to flash JB or ICS. I would like to breathe some new life into my 2.5 year old phone, but just want to make sure I know what I'm getting into first.
Thanks in advance.
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1. To my knowledge the EU bug is only present on ICS ROMs. I encountered it once and had read enough about it that I didn't hit the reset phone button. I went back into recovery and flashed back to jellybean with no permanent harm.
2. I haven't paid much attention to this so potentially yes and no.
3. 4.2.1 is actually pretty stable but is lacking some features that people already running custom JB ROMs have come to rely on. But yes for a fully functional and stable ROM I would suggest avoiding 4.2.1 for the time being.
4. In my opinion battery life is improved over gingerbread no matter what ROM you're running. Of course battery life is a subjective thing. I've seen screenshots where someone had their battery last 2 days on so and so rom. But that person likely didn't touch the phone the majority of those 2 days.
All in all I would suggest you go with jellybean 4.1.2 as they are very stable and honestly smoother and more responsive than ICS.
A couple things before you flash though. First make a backup of your efs folder. You'll thank me later if you end up needing it. Secondly going from where you are to where you want to end up is a major jump in software versions which includes a partition layout change specifically if you are going to Jellybean. So the first time you flash the ROM the flash will complete very quickly(less than 5 seconds). If you try to boot after that flash you'll get stuck in a boot loop. Don't worry though just reboot back into recovery which should have updated with the first flash. Then just flash the ROM again as well as the gapps and you'll be golden.
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likiud said:
From what I read from other threads, it appears that the ICS and JB roms are quite stable enough as a daily driver. I have a few questions regarding these Roms. I'm still running the Apex rom which is an i9000 stock based rom on 2.3.6 for the past year or so. It has been working very well for me. I'm kinda inching to running a JB or ICS rom because of some apps wouldn't run on anything less than ICS or JB.
1. My main concern that stopped me from running ICS or JB is the EU bug. What are the chances of one who never had it before to get it?
2. I know Adobe stopped providing flash support for JB, so now because I'll be running a custom rom, will there be flash support on those roms?
3. The state of 4.2.1 appears to still be in beta for most roms, so I would assume 4.1.2 is more stable than the former, but I would like to know how does 4.1.2 compare with 4.0.4 in terms of stability?
4. I've ran CM7.1 before which was an AOSP rom, but I experienced really bad battery problems. I've tried it a few times, and nothing works to solve it, so I always end up going back to the APex Rom. Because the JB and ICS roms are AOSP-based, how would these roms compare with the stock based roms and CM7 in terms of battery life?
I really want to be sure I want to flash JB or ICS. I would like to breathe some new life into my 2.5 year old phone, but just want to make sure I know what I'm getting into first.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, flash it still supported. Just not needed by adobe.
Battery problem can come from so many things and usually is user based. We use apps like BetterBatteryStats to narrow it down though.
As for 4.1.2 and 4.2.1. I would highly suggest 4.1.2 for now until 4.2.2 comes out.

agree with BWolf56,
I've running CM10.0 stable release, JB 4.1.2, and have found it to be more stable, smoother, and reliable than stock GB with Corn 7 kernel.
I was also concerned about EU bug.
I couldn't find any evidence than anyone had experienced the EU bug on JB.
Skip ICS and go for it!
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I think I'm sold to JB 4.1.2! Thank you for all the replies.
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