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Question About Increasing Speed - Titanium Backup

Does "Freezing" apps in Titanium Backup work the same as renaming them or deleting them? Also, if I wanted to receive an OTA upgrade or apply an update.zip, I would have to rename them back to .apk correct?
I'm looking to try and run some benchmarks in quadrant for before and after of some bloatware (which is why I don't want to just hide them with launcher pro).
Sorry if this has been asked already, I promise I searched first!!!
Thanks in advance

I believe it does. Why?
There are a couple different ways to see what processes are running on your phone, (Settings>Applications>Running Services, the various task killer/manager apps, etc). I systematically went through the list of running services and froze a bunch of them. Then I restarted my phone. The services were no longer auto-starting / auto-running. I believe Titanium Backup actually renames them using a particular file extension which allows it to recognize them as "frozen" and prevents them from being recognized at APK packages. I could be wrong about any / all of this, but I believe my observations are easily reproduced if you have a copy of Titanium Backup installed.

I bit the bullet and dropped the few bucks but even freezing apps didn't seem to make it any faster. I seemed to pull about the same score in quadrant.

Just because an app is showing as "running" in Android, DOES NOT mean its using its taxing the CPU. Unless the app is classified as foreground, or service, its basically just dormant, waiting to be called on and ready in an instant. For the most part, freezing apps isnt gonna do jack.
As long as you aren't using a task killer, Android (and especially Froyo 2.2) knows when to kill off apps and apply the memory in other places as needed.

LexusBrian400 said:
Just because an app is showing as "running" in Android, DOES NOT mean its using its taxing the CPU. Unless the app is classified as foreground, or service, its basically just dormant, waiting to be called on and ready in an instant. For the most part, freezing apps isnt gonna do jack.
As long as you aren't using a task killer, Android (and especially Froyo 2.2) knows when to kill off apps and apply the memory in other places as needed.
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How about removing them completely by renaming?

LexusBrian400 said:
Just because an app is showing as "running" in Android, DOES NOT mean its using its taxing the CPU. Unless the app is classified as foreground, or service, its basically just dormant, waiting to be called on and ready in an instant. For the most part, freezing apps isnt gonna do jack.
As long as you aren't using a task killer, Android (and especially Froyo 2.2) knows when to kill off apps and apply the memory in other places as needed.
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Before freezing apps I was pulling about 900 on Quadrant. I froze A LOT of apps that I have no need for including "home" because I use Launcher Pro and I have no need for the Moto home app to run in the background. After freezing I waited until my phone had been running a while and I had used a few apps then benchmarked again. Quadrant scored 2171. I'd say it made a difference. I took a screenshot if anyone wants proof.
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Any chance you could post which apps you froze?
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mrnosox said:
Before freezing apps I was pulling about 900 on Quadrant. I froze A LOT of apps that I have no need for including "home" because I use Launcher Pro and I have no need for the Moto home app to run in the background. After freezing I waited until my phone had been running a while and I had used a few apps then benchmarked again. Quadrant scored 2171. I'd say it made a difference. I took a screenshot if anyone wants proof.
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I'm sorry, but you DID NOT get that score unless you used the stagefright mod in your build.prop
Nice try.

LexusBrian400 said:
I'm sorry, but you DID NOT get that score unless you used the stagefright mod in your build.prop
Nice try.
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I never said I didn't. I'm using the 2.2 Nandroid backup from this forum and I think it includes that. Why, does that give a false reading?
I'll be glad to give a list of what I've frozen, but it looks like I did freeze one system process that I need to unfreeze. Whichever one lets you see what your battery has been using. Whenever I try to go to it, settings crashes. Anyone know what I need to unfreeze?

mrnosox said:
I never said I didn't. I'm using the 2.2 Nandroid backup from this forum and I think it includes that. Why, does that give a false reading?
I'll be glad to give a list of what I've frozen, but it looks like I did freeze one system process that I need to unfreeze. Whichever one lets you see what your battery has been using. Whenever I try to go to it, settings crashes. Anyone know what I need to unfreeze?
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Well i didnt want everyone here to be mislead that they were gonna get that score just by freezing apps. Afterall, thats what this post is about. And you made it seem like you got that score by freezing apps. BTW, that build.prop edit you have breaks the gallery's ability to playback HD content. I'd recommend getting rid of it and using this mod found here, My build.prop edit and Instructions
I had that battery settings issue also. The only way I ended up fixing it was to SBF, and then update to 2.2 via koush's Rom Manager. Works great now.

I discovered that on mine the battery manager bug only appears when the battery is below 50%

LexusBrian400 said:
Well i didnt want everyone here to be mislead that they were gonna get that score just by freezing apps. Afterall, thats what this post is about. And you made it seem like you got that score by freezing apps. BTW, that build.prop edit you have breaks the gallery's ability to playback HD content. I'd recommend getting rid of it and using this mod found here, My build.prop edit and Instructions
I had that battery settings issue also. The only way I ended up fixing it was to SBF, and then update to 2.2 via koush's Rom Manager. Works great now.
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Thanks for the tips! I used your modified build.prop but kept the stagefright mod since i use Act 1 to play videos. Still getting great benchmarks! Thanks!
I think i can do without the battery thing. I really don't want to sbf. I might start from scratch when an ASOP ROM comes out though.

ruddymart said:
I discovered that on mine the battery manager bug only appears when the battery is below 50%
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Mine does it no matter what. Good to know it's not something I did with freezing apps though.

I havent done any stagefright BS... my Quadrant scores are legit...
Right out of the box, the very first hour i had the phone, the first app i installed was Quadrant and my phone got a 1200 brand new running 2.1
Now since then, im running 2.2 and have deleted / renamed many apps, dont even use blur, i use launcherpro etc etc... and now it only scores a 1400 in quadrant
its very frustrating when i can go from a completely 100% out of the box device and get a 1200... and then i do a 2.2 update and delete all this crap and only end up gaining 200 points out of it

Joe92T said:
I havent done any stagefright BS... my Quadrant scores are legit...
Right out of the box, the very first hour i had the phone, the first app i installed was Quadrant and my phone got a 1200 brand new running 2.1
Now since then, im running 2.2 and have deleted / renamed many apps, dont even use blur, i use launcherpro etc etc... and now it only scores a 1400 in quadrant
its very frustrating when i can go from a completely 100% out of the box device and get a 1200... and then i do a 2.2 update and delete all this crap and only end up gaining 200 points out of it
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What did you expect? Its just a software update.

LexusBrian400 said:
What did you expect? Its just a software update.
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On my incredible i was scoring in the 800s with 2.1.. and then when i updated to 2.2 i was scoring 1400s... huuuuugggeee difference.. and now with the new BFS kernal they are using from king.. the INC is hitting 1500 - 1600 quadrants now with no stagefright hack.. making them effectively faster then our devices

Apps with a mind of their own

After own my device for a couple weeks, numerous stock apps have started opening themselves. The main offenders are social networking, media share, maps, google search, Google+ huddle, mobile hotspots, email and gmail, along with a couple downloaded apps. This never used to happen. I did notice it was around the same time as I got the Facebook update, which also never closes now. Anyone know how to prevent this. I don't use most of these apps and don't need them using up my ram
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factory reset, or root and install minfree and tweak it to your liking
auto mem manager doesnt work for crap

This is my first android and I've got some hesitation on rooting since I have the Canadian xt860 and the all the efforts of root and more importantly recovery, should I brick my device, are based on the Droid 3, or xt862
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Open the Task Manager App and go to the Auto-End List tab. you can add apps that you want to be killed automatically after the screen is off for 2 minutes. It works well for social networking because i think different apps that you use opens it in the background and it never closes, and its constantly gathering your GPS info.
Also Juice Defender is good to turn off your data connection while the screen is off so apps running data like that will only be able to sync when you want. And not randomly turn on/continue running while your phone is in your pocket.

Not all the apps can be set on the auto end list, social networking and mobile hotspot for example. Although I think the biggest question I have is why is this happening?
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Endoroid said:
Not all the apps can be set on the auto end list, social networking and mobile hotspot for example. Although I think the biggest question I have is why is this happening?
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my mistake i have social location on the auto end list not social networking i got them mixed up. a lot of apps are launched in the background by other apps or launched at startup. My understanding is it is the way that Android helps it open faster the next time you need to.

Ya except I don't use them ever so I don't care if they open faster. I know rooting would solve my problem but until there's a little more support for the xt860 I'm not willing to risk bricking my device. I just thought it was odd it all of a sudden started. Someone had said do a factory reset. What does a factory reset wipe. Would I lose all my paid apps?
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*backup* (Android System) - eating up my battery; what is it?

Check out the attached screen shot. That's from Better Battery Stats. Whatever it is, it's eating up my battery. Battery life has been half what it used to be. Any idea what *backup* is and how to keep it from running all the time?
Also, I installed Nitrodesk Touchdown and used it for email on my exchange account for awhile, but it didn't improve the email delay issue so I reduced it from push email to polling once every 24 hrs., but it's still running a lot. Any idea how to reduce that?

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Check out the attached screen shot. That's from Better Battery Stats. Whatever it is, it's eating up my battery. Battery life has been half what it used to be. Any idea what *backup* is and how to keep it from running all the time?
Also, I installed Nitrodesk Touchdown and used it for email on my exchange account for awhile, but it didn't improve the email delay issue so I reduced it from push email to polling once every 24 hrs., but it's still running a lot. Any idea how to reduce that?
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You may have enable option 'Keep backup of android device' while adding google account, just disable it

Thanks, that was it. I disabled it and froze Nitrodesk Touchdown, and my battery life shot up. Like 35 hours instead of 15.

I have the same issue on my I9100. How can I disable the backup function afterwards?
Edit: Found it

dr.ketan said:
You may have enable option 'Keep backup of android device' while adding google account, just disable it
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where is this setting?

Setting - privacy
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dr.ketan said:
Setting - privacy
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Hah! I love that. It is a setting to send all your passwords to Google, and it is under 'Privacy'!
Luckily I automatically unchecked that when I set up the account. I mean, seriously, rely on their security? What kind of security plan is that for anyone to adopt?

Does the Google backup really use a noticeable amount of battery? I like the convenience of it, but I'd turn it off for better battery life.
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should i uncheck both options?
Back up my data
Automatic restore
i didnot understand the use of Automatic restore. when we update apps, we get our old data back. if i uncheck this will i lose saved data from older version?
edit: both options were checked for me. i unchecked it immediately. any other such hidden settings i might have missed? hope the battery life increases now.

Once you uncheck first option, other will disable automatically. B'coz if it dont backup your data, there is no question to restore it.
With this unchecking you wont lose anything right now. it is for next use, In case of you hard reset, it will restore some data automatically, in case of you have enable it.
But better you can use titanium backup or mybackup pro to do this n make schedule to backup at desired time. It won't kill your battery by sync all the time.
I never enable this function.

Had this same problem with my S3, unchecked the boxes after reading this. Is the something we can freeze in Titanium backup aswell? All i can see is /system/app/backuprestoreconfirmation
out of 7 hours on time it kept my phone awake for 5 of them! its mental.

Just unchecked the backup option. Note that google doesn't back up you phone constantly, it only happens a few times a month.
But why take chances?

Does this option interfere with the contact back-up from my gmail adress ?

These wakelocks are a major issue in all androids...
I had these wakelocks with my Motorola Milestone (because of WiFi, GPS, ...) and now on the Note with several ROMs. It should not be so easy for a userspace app to raise such a lock ... maybe some developer can write an app that notifies the user if the device does not sleep? And, even better, ask for killing and deinstalling the misbehaving app, if possible, even from the market...

petersteier said:
... maybe some developer can write an app that notifies the user if the device does not sleep? And, even better, ask for killing and deinstalling the misbehaving app, if possible, even from the market...
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There is an app already for that.. I'm not sure if it had been suggested already before but it is called CpuSPy (look for it in google play). What the app simply do is to monitor in the background and constantly you can tap on it and see if your phone is in a very deep sleep or not (it has a bar to determine how much or how little your phone goes into deep sleep). Also you can try to install Betterbatterystat(also from google play) to see which app or apps are causing the wakelocks on your phone. After you've verified those 'misbehaving app/s', then that'll be the time you can uninstall /remove it for yourself. Killing it won't do any good at all, because the moment you restart your phone, the said process/app would simply start back again as well. You need to really uninstall it thru Titanium backup.
On the side note. I don't think there will ever be an app that you can automate to uninstall any 'misbehaving apps' in your phone as Google generally has laws on it, governing some stance that says something to the effect as "no apps can be allowed to violate or remove other apps on the phone automatically". It would still be the user's discretion to manually uninstall those rogue apps by himself on his phone.
Hope that helps a bit.
Cheers!

What does the "data" mean here? Like Titan Backup?
But every time I flashed a new ROM, it seems like I still need to retype my WIFI password and no app data was restored

FB Quickview updated

I just noticed the FB Quickview app has been updated.
It now has a blue and white icon instead of the previous black and white one.
I still have the same problem as before. The first time you run it, it loads current notifications and messages.
But, then the notifications and messages never update on the watch.
You can have new FB notifications and message on your phone / FB account, but the watch never retrieves them or updates them on the watch app.
The notifications I can see are good. You can see pictures and you can even like posts.
But, I can only see the list that was there a few hours ago when I installed the app. Nothing since then.
Anyone get the app to work properly?

Works fine for me. The old version never displayed anything. The new version does (although seems a little slow at times). Wish it displayed more info though. It's useless showing exactly what Facebook notification show me anyway (which is limited in the same way)

Just updated I havent noticed anything new

Mine never shows anything at all. Nothing under notifications, friend requests, or messages.
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New version works great for me. Old version never did anything but really please with this update.

Just freezes for me
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Where can you download facebook quick view from?

theonlymac001 said:
Where can you download facebook quick view from?
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From Samsung app store or check the threads here for apps (I have latest in my mediafire folder linked in one of the threads)

Brendo said:
From Samsung app store or check the threads here for apps (I have latest in my mediafire folder linked in one of the threads)
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And what's your mediafire link because i can't find it in my local samsung apps store.

theonlymac001 said:
And what's your mediafire link because i can't find it in my local samsung apps store.
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Check the All Gear Applications thread
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I downloade it, installed it on the gear but i can't find it in the menu nor in the application manager tab of astro file manager.
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I downloade it, installed it on the gear but i can't find it in the menu nor in the application manager tab of astro file manager.
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You need to install on your phone. It then installs the gear app as well
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THANK YOU!!!! Works great!

Don't like the way this app needs to use accessability in order to push notifications. Turning this on usually screws other features up such as air view and causes stupid announcements like scan finished when turning wifi on.
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Oh my gosh, me either!!
ardsar said:
Don't like the way this app needs to use accessability in order to push notifications. Turning this on usually screws other features up such as air view and causes stupid announcements like scan finished when turning wifi on.
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AND...when you enable FBQuickview Accessibility the stock browser gives you an annoying play by play of everything it's doing..."page loading"..."page loaded". I'm pretty sure that to receive notifications you have to enable this. So after finding this out I decided that having the freedom to use the stock browser (because sometimes it's the one that I wish to use) without the play by play was more important to me than having this crappy app so I uninstalled it. Well, almost...now I have FBQuickview category stuck in my notification archives because it had received them. Because I uninstalled the app the actual notifications are gone, but the category is still there. I am currently trying different ways to get that to go away but I may just have to reset the Gear and re-set it all up again. Sure, it's not THAT big of a deal to have this legacy category there, but it just bugs me. And I'll never get the 45 minutes of my life back discovering that FBQuickview Accessibility was the culprit of the sudden an mysterious verbal browser feedback.
If I am wrong about needing to enable FBQ Accessibility and or if anyone knows what I can do to make that damn FBQ notification category go away...please let me know.

Isn't this app a bit redundant now that GM pushes all notifications to the watch?

Redundant
fbueller said:
Isn't this app a bit redundant now that GM pushes all notifications to the watch?
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Yeah, I think so...but I thought that it gave more info than the stock notification. Maybe I'm wrong. I was just so desperate to find any app that is worthwhile for the Gear. Pretty slim pickins so far. I'm really anxious for more development.

App has been updated. It now uses notification access rather than accessibility
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I just installed it again.
It still has the same problem where it loads all notifications the first time you run it, but after that the notifications and messages never get updated on the Gear.
In the phone, the app seems in gear manager still say that the security settings needs to be ticked.
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Hello! new here..
This app has worked pretty well so far, but today i rooted my Galaxy Gear and installed Nova Launcher.. now this app no longer pushes new notifications to the gear.. i have no idea what has happened, i uninstalled and re-installed the app, but at best all i can have it do is that initial load up of the latest notifications, messages or friend requests... but it does not push anything new. that happens. basically get the same as richlum above here by the sound of it.. i first thought it may be some issue with Nova Launcher, but i get the same with the stock launcher as well..

Ice box

I've recently been using an app called ice box. I removed greenify and wakelocks. Been using this app solo with great success. Letting my Nexus 6 homies know about it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox
Give it a try, let me know what you think. Hit thanks

personally its far too simple, there are more advanced tools out there if you have root.

Simple is not a bad thing if it does everything a more complex app does.

I use this functionality in Titanium Backup. It can deal with system apps in several ways

martinez5241 said:
I've recently been using an app called ice box. I removed greenify and wakelocks. Been using this app solo with great success. Letting my Nexus 6 homies know about it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox
Give it a try, let me know what you think. Hit thanks
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I agree 100%
I've tried Servicely, Amplify, Greenify, and Boot Manager (the last three with Xposed integration) and have removed all of them.
Ice Box beats them all hands down in ease of setup, ease of use and, most importantly, it actually keeps unruly apps from restarting themselves.
Somehow they would always spring back up when using Greenify and the others and I would always see them in the "Battery" screen as have used some % of my battery even though they weren't used.
:good::good::good: for Ice Box!
Give it a try, the free version can deal with 15 apps and is definitely worth a look.

I used icebox for a while too and thought it was the solution to all my life's problems but had to find a different solution after I realized that app keeps a constant connection to some mysterious address in China and sends data each time anything happens on your phone

ElwOOd_CbGp said:
I used icebox for a while too and thought it was the solution to all my life's problems but had to find a different solution after I realized that app keeps a constant connection to some mysterious address in China and sends data each time anything happens on your phone
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Is that really happens? What's your source? I can't find anything on Google regarding this...

AFWall logs, NetworkConnections app, traceroute, google play store developer info. Trust me. I wouldn't say anything if it wasn't true. I really...really liked the app. It may be nothing but app analytics but I could never get the dev to reply and the address provided on google play appeared to be bogus when I looked for it in Maps...which I did report to google along with my firewall logs. Maybe its fixed. I get that developers make better results when they get feedback but I don't like unnecessary connections especially ones without an off switch. The amount of data sent appeared to be miniscule but very constant even when the app wasn't in use. I end up making my own using Everywhere Launcher + Secure Settings + Macrodroid. Secure Settings does the same thing but appears to be abandoned and the licencing used for it doesn't seem to be affected by being blocked from the internet.

How do I see which apps are always running? Im afraid that I'll freeze a app and it'll break my phone lol..
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