Any chance of seeing a port from the Sensation development section, possible something like Venom ROM, and the burst shot/ImageSense port from Sense 4?
Before you ask, yes, someone managed to get burst shot mode and possibly photo taking while video recording to work on the Sensation, so it is no great leap to say that the Vivid will be able to have the same.
One issue that seems to be present, however, is the RIL, which seems to be broken on the Sense 4 port over at Rootzwiki.
If we can get the ril fixed then pribibly otherwise kinda sol for sense 4 but I wish android revolution would come to vivid
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Does here any chance to get HTC ROM (Sensation/Desire S/Desire HD...) or just HTC Sense (2.1/3.0) port to our great P990?
just see a ported ROM for Nexus One, a little bit missing my old phone... /_\
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I still have my Nexus One
mine was gone with the thief ><
Don't know if it's possible, they were able to port itbto the n1 because iy's very similar to the desire, i think.
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I think actually its ported already. Sense 3.0 .... Look in the theme section for P990
Edit; just a theme but it looks good indeed
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Also because there are alot of developers there compared to LGO2x
Sckank said:
I think actually its ported already. Sense 3.0 .... Look in the theme section for P990
Edit; just a theme but it looks good indeed
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but I want more than "look"...
XD
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mixedblues said:
but I want more than "look"...
XD
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tbh mate, dont have any high hopes for this kind of port,
HTC phones tend to be very similar (nexus1 is basically a desire) so when a new version of sense comes along, its not that hard to port it to other devices.
Porting sense to a totally different device, from a different manufacturer, with different processor, just makes it too tricky. You'll notice that the Galaxy s, (which is way way more popular than our phone) doesnt have a sense port either (after just double checking this, turns out they do have one from the 2nd of june and its very buggy alot of things dont work)
So yh basically dont get your hopes up about a sense port, with devices you tend to get a modified version of your own manufactures rom, if your lucky a CM7 support, and possibly a miui rom. If the device is very popular then you might get the odd asop rom, but for example you wont get a port of the SE arc rom on our phones or anything like that.
Saw the cool video on sense 4.0. Of course I want it. What do you guys think? Will HTC give it to us with the ICS update, or will they save it for newer phones?
That is up in the air still. The Sensation and a few others have had ics leaks but with 3.5. I hope we get 4.0, but everyone is saying to not count on it.
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That is up in the air still. The Sensation and a few others have had ics leaks but with 3.5. I hope we get 4.0, but everyone is saying to not count on it.
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It wouldn't be the first time that HTC didn't give old phones the new version of Sense (EVO), but I hope otherwise. It doesn't make sense to me for them to spend so much time making 3.0 and 3.5 work with ICS when they could just focus on 4.0 and release it to all.
Of course, 4.0 could require more storage and more powerful hardware that some phones just can't match, but current generation phones should be able to run it fine.
The Sensation is getting ICS with Sense 3.6 not 3.5, so there might not be a Sense 4.0 for ICS but 3.6 looks totally different to 3.5, it might be just as nice.
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The Sensation is getting ICS with Sense 3.6 not 3.5, so there might not be a Sense 4.0 for ICS but 3.6 looks totally different to 3.5, it might be just as nice.
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There is a Sense 4.0 for ICS. There's a video floating around of it in action.
just saw it. not much different from 3.6, until its compared side by side and the differences listed, then we can bring out the pitch forks and torches and rally up on HTC again and demand 4.0
Sense 4.0 is not only cool but it gives you benefits like 50 gigs of Dropbox storage. I sure hope the vivid gets the new sense and it better come with the benefits
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gubbels214 said:
Sense 4.0 is not only cool but it gives you benefits like 50 gigs of Dropbox storage. I sure hope the vivid gets the new sense and it better come with the benefits
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than we probably wont as htc is factory in that drop box space in the cost of a phone .
also we will get it eventually google mandated that oem support phones for 18 months after release with android updates , so dont worry. what really is killing the release time is one htc like SE is probably coding ICS for MSM platforms by them selves without googles help and 2 carrier validation (which takes a month or two min )
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Sense 4.0 is not only cool but it gives you benefits like 50 gigs of Dropbox storage. I sure hope the vivid gets the new sense and it better come with the benefits
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I think it will be ported anyway.
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If we ever get the Cam driver, will be able to make on a Cm7/9 Rom great pictures like on Sense Roms?
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In theory, yes.
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Don't we already have the old sense cam driver?
Anyways don't know but interested in this topic...
But the Cam on Cm7/9 Roms is buggy.
That isn't Sense i know, but when we had had the Cam driver for Sense, why we cant use it for Sense 3.6 or 4.0 Roms. It is always Sense, and if a Sense 3.5 Rom have a fully working cam with the Sense 3.0 Drivers (INCs haven't Sense 3.5 officially) ehy it dont work on Sense 3.6/4.
Someone can give me/us answers?
I think it's not because of the version of sense but because of ICS.
Some devs managed to have the camera working on some AOSP ROM but the kernel for sense ROM is different.
Yeah its due to different versions like GB and ICS. But my cm7 camera was always perfectly fine.
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Yeah its due to different versions like GB and ICS. But my cm7 camera was always perfectly fine.
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Pictures and Videos cant compare to Sense Cam.
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Pictures and Videos cant compare to Sense Cam.
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That's only because of the application. I don't thinks it's kernel related.
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That's only because of the application. I don't thinks it's kernel related.
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I see diferrences with the same app on Sense/CM7. There must be something.
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Sense ROMs have always been better. The camera in CM7 was pretty bad, at least in my case. MIUI was only a little better.
Understandably, the cams on the ICS ROMs produced very grainy pics. Hope HTC release the camera drivers soon.
And I do not think this has got anything to do with the kernel, but please correct me if I am wrong
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Sense ROMs have always been better. The camera in CM7 was pretty bad, at least in my case. MIUI was only a little better.
Understandably, the cams on the ICS ROMs produced very grainy pics. Hope HTC release the camera drivers soon.
And I do not think this has got anything to do with the kernel, but please correct me if I am wrong
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Thats it. But you Vanessa usw the Cam Apk from MIUI in Cm7 too. Not as good as Sense but Vetter than Stock. We really need them, maybe we have than better cams in other Roms too ..
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Don't worry I'm not asking "Which rom is the best". After all thats an insult to developers and its a matter of preference anyway. I'm asking which one meets my needs or most of them anyway. I'm looking for a rom with the following:
*No annoying "android is upgrading" on every boot
*All animations enabled
*wifi tethering unlocked
*ability to disable lte and use hspa+/Edge only
Other things that would be nice but not as important:
*bloatware removed (I can do this with TB anyway if rooted)
*ASOP notification bar theme, no more gb looking icons (probably can do this with uot kitchen dunno)
*"visual voicemail" button removed from dialer Google voice button instead? (Is this possible? If anything just linking gvoice to it would work)
*Sense 4 launcher or just a modified 3.6 launcher with Widgets in the app drawer (I don't think it exists but I know I could just as well use apex or nova but I love the sense Widgets)
*removed recent apps from notification area (whats the point? I can just hold home anyway)
*configurable quick settings
Also ROM has to work on the HTC vivid on at&t. Quick question too does permaroot mean permanent forever? Like there's no way back? Also I noticed the vivid tools and the rooting ics guide which one should I use? And lastly do I need to achieve s-off or is rooting enough? I apologize for all the questions but I came from the captivate and its stock with an unlocked bootloader and almost designed for rooting and custom roms
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So you would defenitely want either PGs rum float or (just Google: androidninjas)
Or wild child's from. Google wcxxperia...
As for permroot , it means it is permanent you want loose root on reboot or power downs. But not permanent as in never go back. There are a hand full of ways to go back...
Try using the super guide first. I think In the guide he puts a link to his toolkit. But since you aren't really familiar with this use the super guide. It goes step by step.
Hope this helped.
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How about you read all of the ROM's threads, test each one out and see which one you like.
I've been reading up on them but its a bit confusing ATM.
you can't go wrong with the Virtuous Inquisition rom or the wajee ones, search the development thread, there are like 5 new roms.
Yeah gotta admit with the great one x reviews and the gs3 launch I was starting to regret getting this phone but seeing the recent surge in development makes me feel more confident. I originally didn't plan on rooting and installing a custom rom but I kept my captivate stock for all of 2 weeks and its killing me how limited I am to customizing plus I loved using my cappys wifi tether with my flyer and lte is eating my batteries and killing my phone when using Pandora over Bluetooth! If anything I may just root soon so I can tweak the phone
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Sounds like either the virtuous or Wajee's from would be a good choice for you. They are ports of sensation rooms so all three current ones have hspa/edge connectivity only from what I've seen. They are very slick and quick with running either the stock ics launcher (wajee's unsensed) or apex (virtuous). There might be a few bugs still being worked out but those are the closest to what you seem to require at the moment!
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Yeah I was looking at both of those. Does hspa+ aka fake 4G work?
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as far as I can tell all signs points to yes. I ran some speed test and they are holding close to what I got stock in my non-lte town
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Cool. Only thing is I do love the sense widgets and the lockscreen shortcuts. Guess you can't have it all.
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The unsensed beta has lock screen shortcuts, but no HTC Widgets tho unfortunately. That's a sacrifice for such a nice rom. But with beautiful widget you don't really need the HTC Widgets.
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Yeah I got beautiful Widgets and fancy Widgets actually. Bought fancy Widgets when I got my captivate and beautiful Widgets was on sale for 10 cents during Google's 10 days of 10 cent apps. They do a great job no doubt but one thing they can't do is animations. But they do have an advantage with the ability to link custom weather apps because honestly the sense one is meh.
The unsensed one must of borrowed that from cm. CM7 had the rings lock screen where you could add a third ring and add up to 4 shortcuts with it. What is the aosp ics lock screen like? The way Google made it sound was lock screen shortcuts are built in. Honestly as long as I can access my camera I'm good.
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From what I can tell its pretty much the same lock screen then. Camera/phone/SMS/unlock from that screen.one bonus too is lock screen control for music apps . Rdio/slacker is so much better now
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Sounds good I'll give them a try when I get time to sit down with this thing. My flyer took a bit to get it rooted, lots of adb commands etc. Don't think the vivid will be as bad as the flyer doesn't have a GUI to use.
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Rooting the phone is quite simple. Even doing the s-off is fairly a easy process when it comes down to it. Follow the guide and you should be fine. If you need help post here or jump on the irc, a lot of smart people hang out there and love helping out.
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Sounds like either the virtuous or Wajee's from would be a good choice for you. They are ports of sensation rooms so all three current ones have hspa/edge connectivity only from what I've seen. They are very slick and quick with running either the stock ics launcher (wajee's unsensed) or apex (virtuous). There might be a few bugs still being worked out but those are the closest to what you seem to require at the moment!
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Wait, they don't have LTE? Why would that be the case, since it is using a Holiday radio? I personally haven't tested it, as I don't live in an LTE area.
Also, Virtuous is using Nova, which I instantly replaced with the stock ICS launcher.
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I don't even really care about lte now. Only real use of it is to show off your download speed to your friends. But it eats your battery alive and causes overheating issues and just pointless anyway with a 2 gig data cap. When I went on vacation a coupled weeks ago I went out of lte coverage and battery life was worlds better and I was still getting 12 meg down. 12 meg is what my home internet is so hspa+ is all you really need.
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As far as I've seen the ports don't have late because they are straight ports. These roms don't have lte support built in. You can confirm this by going in the dialer and typing *#*#4636#*#* and under phone information. The option for late isn't available. But like the op said. Its mostly not required while using your phone 90% of the time. It just uses your data a lot faster and doesn't really change much else in your web browsing experience.
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Hey one quick question. I was looking at the Junopeterbear S-off and it looks kind of complicated...wire trick? Do I need to even concern myself with that or is just unlocking the bootloader and obtaining root access enough? ugh... I have to take the phone apart? Man I don't even wanna mess with that. Hopefully they'll have an ADB method or cwm flashable method in the future. I'll just stay away from that!
Edit: yeah sure enough the screw on the panel I need to pull off has a sticker that says "void" on it. I don't want to void my warrenty. Obviously flashing a rom technically does that but only if they can proove it! Might be different if I ever even once made it through a contract without having to swap my phone out for various hardware failures (Captivates speaker broke swapped it out and 3 months later the power button died on the refirb)
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As far as I've seen the ports don't have late because they are straight ports. These roms don't have lte support built in. You can confirm this by going in the dialer and typing *#*#4636#*#* and under phone information. The option for late isn't available. But like the op said. Its mostly not required while using your phone 90% of the time. It just uses your data a lot faster and doesn't really change much else in your web browsing experience.
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According to cruzin_cruising, the Virtuous ROM still has LTE support. I don't really know, since I don't live in an LTE area.
Currently there are no "custom" ROMs, as I'd term them. Right now, they're are just optimizations of Sense 5. When ROMs like AOKP and CM start popping up for the HTC One, will it be difficult to get the stock Sense camera app on them? That's the only thing I'm worried about in relation to switching to a non-Sense ROM. All the HTC optimizations and features for the camera will be lost with the stock Android camera app.
Will it be as easy as sticking the APK on the new ROM? Or will it require some real work?
HTC camera requires sense framework which isn't present in Aosp/aokp Roma
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HTC camera requires sense framework which isn't present in Aosp/aokp Roma
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Well, that sucks. I really can't switch to an non-Sense ROM if I'm going to lose all the camera optimizations. Hopefully someone can figure it out.
Yea I always wished the camera was better on vanilla roms, but I find myself always switching back to sense roms because of the camera. I havent used a nexus 4 persay so I can't comment on that
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