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Ok, so the other day I visited an AT&T store, and while I was there I got talking with one of the reps there. We were talking about flashing different ROMS and such, when he showed me his phone. He was running a custom rom that he cooked up in the romkitchen. He then showed me his speedtest.net scores and they were off the charts! He was getting something like 9 Mbps down, and 30 Mbps upload speed! He tried to explain to me how he had done this, off the record of course, but I haven't been able to figure it out! If there is anyone out there who can help out an aspiring noob, I would really appreciate it!
its called HSPA (aka HSPUA and HSPDA for upload and download)
They probably also have a signal repeater or a microcell in the store too increase performance
yeah tricky a-holes... "see how good att reception is? ..... (in our store) "
Interesting, so I guess to simplify, captivate is still unable to access what AT&T calls "4G"? Also how would one know if they were accessing HSPA?
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Interesting, so I guess to simplify, captivate is still unable to access what AT&T calls "4G"? Also how would one know if they were accessing HSPA?
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The captivate us capable of hspa it just needs to be flashed to a different modem.bin that supports it
The signal icon at the top will say H instead of 3g.
As for 4g that will never work.
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Interesting, so I guess to simplify, captivate is still unable to access what AT&T calls "4G"? Also how would one know if they were accessing HSPA?
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where your 3G signal is it will have an H instead of 3G
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yeah tricky a-holes... "see how good att reception is? ..... (in our store) "
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How much experience do you have with at&t as a provider? Or are you just regurgitating what you have read. Every carrier has their issues but you seem to have some deep seeded hatred for at&t.
@op, the captivate will connect to hsdpa just fine but the speeds the rep was getting are not possible.
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How much experience do you have with at&t as a provider? Or are you just regurgitating what you have read. Every carrier has their issues but you seem to have some deep seeded hatred for at&t.
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most people do. one of the things im starting to have a problem is is with their rates when everyone else is becoming fairly cheap. other than that ive been with them since cingular...
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most people do. one of the things im starting to have a problem is is with their rates when everyone else is becoming fairly cheap. other than that ive been with them since cingular...
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They actually lowered my monthly rate a couple months ago. I was shocked. As for everyone else being a lot cheaper, I am not so sure. I have had Sprint, still have a Verizon plan, and recently looked into T-Mobile. In the end it comes down to coverage for me.
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They actually lowered my monthly rate a couple months ago. I was shocked. As for everyone else being a lot cheaper, I am not so sure. I have had Sprint, still have a Verizon plan, and recently looked into T-Mobile. In the end it comes down to coverage for me.
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well their prices(AT&T) are still higher than the other providers. unlimited data plans for $20-$30 when at AT&T you only get so much but get unlimited when on wifi....then again wifi isnt everywhere. i myself have almost the lowest plan with one of the lowest data plans and still pay almost $100 a month!....just sayin
Hey I appreciate all the input regarding my question, ive done quite a bit of reading on this forum lately and am learning a lot! So I guess my next question would be, what kind of speedtest.net scores would one get if connected to HSPA?
HSPA that Att is deploying currently is limited to 14.4Mbps. Real world speeds up to ~12Mbps. The captivate does NOT have HSPA, only 7.2Mbps HSDPA.
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Hey I appreciate all the input regarding my question, ive done quite a bit of reading on this forum lately and am learning a lot! So I guess my next question would be, what kind of speedtest.net scores would one get if connected to HSPA?
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I realize that there is probably a post regarding these scores already, however if somebody could point me in the right direction i would really appreciate it!
That's why I have straight talk. $45/mo unlimited everything with att service!
When my phone says H, I average about 3mbps dl
my favorite part of this whole thread is that nobody even questions the speeds that the OP posted.....
those speeds are impossible on ATT cell network, period. sounds like he was on wifi in the store.
pirate. Microcell and speeds not possible have been mentioned.
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pirate. Microcell and speeds not possible have been mentioned.
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i guess that was a reading fail on my part, because i never saw it when i read through the initial posts, yesterday.
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my favorite part of this whole thread is that nobody even questions the speeds that the OP posted.....
those speeds are impossible on ATT cell network, period. sounds like he was on wifi in the store.
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Its because everyone knows their BS
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where your 3G signal is it will have an H instead of 3G
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Wireless network speeds depend on a number of variables. If you see the H, it just means the software is turned on in the tower you are connecting to. The faster speeds are dependent on whether or not there is expanded backhaul (fiber from the tower into the network) in your area. Until that's added, you won't see speeds above what you get from 3G. Of course geography, your location, number of people connecting to your tower, etc... also play a role.
I saw a deal for an unlocked "world" version of the note and I am on TmoUS. So if I buy the note, will I be able to use my unlimited data plan with 3g or H? I am confused reading the forums on the att side and this one...they're saying I can only get edge? Because that would really suck.
I'm on tapatalk and can't do a decent search on xda via app so if this had been asked already, just point me to that thread and I will gladly have this one deleted. Also, the desire to get the unlocked note is a spur of the moment kinda thing since the deal is only available for one day. Btw, unlocked note is selling for 585 with shipping from 1saleaday.
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what they said is right you will only get edge speeds on tmobile with the inter.. Note...If you use AT&T then its no big deal.
I am also on tmo. I found an article that says you can run tmo hspa+ on att note so I'm going to try and trade line on Craigslist. Edge is killing me man.
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
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Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
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that depends on the frequency of the 3g network in your area.
however, this is the first I've seen it mentioned that American t mobile has any other 3g bands than 700mhz.
So I'd say no, you most likely will not get 3g speeds.
The N7000 will only run on T-Mobile edge. If you want 4g you have to AT&T or Straight Talk.
This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
Well, EDGE is downright terrible...no one can argue that. If you want to use T-Mobile, you're better off getting the AT-T note, unlocking it, then installing the right modem files to use it on 3g/4g. I use T-Mobile myself, and decided to keep the Int. version...I think it's better, and the development community is WAY better, mainly because the device has been out longer. It's up to you really. Don't hope T-Mobile will be updating it's 1900mhz spectrum in your area anytime soon...it's a process I'm sure will take many years.
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This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
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I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
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Yes they do number porting as long as it is not a at&t number because straight talk uses at&t network.
It sucks that it is more difficult to get the inter version to work on 3g or h on tmo. I did read that the inter version is better than att version and I do believe that development will be better with the inter version as it obviously covers more countries and it has been out longer. I really want this note but I'm just gonna wait a bit. I have a feeling those guys working on getting tmo to work on inter version will be able to do it. Wishful thinking probably but it is possible with all the talented devs out there. I guess I'm going to be on sensation for a while until tmo comes up with a phone as awesome as the note. Thanks for all the responses!!
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Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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Noob question...how can I check? Are you getting 3g with tmo now?
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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FYI and I have heard of this issue before, Straight Talk gets varied reception in Metropolitian areas. Let me explain.
I have had ST for a few months now, on the NT7000. I have had zero issues.
A couple of caveats
DO NOT use more than 100mb/day or 2gb/month, whichever comes first. People have had their contracts terminated by ST for doing this. So not truly unlimited (but still more than decent deal). This is not a *hard* limit- I have done more without any issues by accident.
I get decent service in the suburb of NYC where I live (few tall buildings), actually much better service than Tmobile had.
However, in NYC itself, the service can be absolutely horrible depending on area. My guess for this phenomenon is that while you are on an ATT MVNO, this doesn't necessarily mean that you have the same roaming rights as regular ATT customers. In a metro area, roaming might be necessary to get signal in certain places.
My download speeds at 2gb down 1 up.
I would just buy a months' worth at first and try it out as prepaid, then port your number in.
From what I understand, you don't even need to buy the e71 like I did anymore
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Which areas in Philly? I live in Philly but only manage to ever get Edge speeds on mine.
I use RedPocket. It's a MVNO of AT&T ....
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
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so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
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I do. I got it with the SGS II and ow with the Note. up to 3mbs download. Good enough. MediaNet is $10 a month unlimited, I don't use nearly 2GB maybe less than 1 as I am in WiFi most of the time. I am using a Cingular.wap setting. Its different than the "smartphone" APN but the speeds are the same (until LTE is available) I don't need LTE speeds on a phone. I don't even get those speeds at home on cable. maybe 7Mbs DL.
I'm able to pick up an International Note locally for a great price. However...will it get 4G on T-Mobile?
Appreciate the help
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Did you forget the first rule of this forum?
Use the search button. You would have found your answer faster than adding to this thread with something that's been discussed since the n7000 came out. :rollseyes:
Deth Becomes You said:
Did you forget the first rule of this forum?
Use the search button. You would have found your answer faster than adding to this thread with something that's been discussed since the n7000 came out. :rollseyes:
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Good morning to you too.
Not at this time. I was told to give it about 20 more days when the Note comes out on Tmo so they can compare the 2. Then they will go from there!!
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Not at this time. I was told to give it about 20 more days when the Note comes out on Tmo so they can compare the 2. Then they will go from there!!
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The Tmo Note has the same guts as the ATT version. I really don't think the N7000 will ever have Tmo high speed data. That is of course unless you live in an area where tmo has refarmed their 1900mhz to also use 3g data. It really is too bad because I want to use the 3g data on my Int Note too.
And aaronuser, I am sorry but that is why we have rules for the forums. Otherwise it is just clutter.
since they use different network so you only got 2g ( like my gt7000 ).But my friend just got a AT&T unlock for Tmobile at dealer in CA which able to use 3/4g with little trick...Hope this help :victory:
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I'm able to pick up an International Note locally for a great price. However...will it get 4G on T-Mobile?
Appreciate the help
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Hi bud,
don't get your hopes up high.. T-mobile sucks...Their 4G slate isn't even close to a real 4G connection.
Hello, I just received my unlocked HTC one dev. edition from the manufacturers website, and I was wondering which carrier would be better suited for the phone. I was reading that the dev. edition isn't well supported for T-mobile, unless the branded version was bought. Then I read that for an att plan, I would need to go to the corporate store in order to maybe get a plan if they allow me to. I would just like to have optimal speeds, with this optimal device. Any suggestions on what I should do?
ps. I don't know if this was addressed earlier but I tried looking around
My suggestion would be to try T-Mobile first. See how it works out for you at home and at your job, or other places where it might be important to you to have good reception. Check the coverage maps on the respective carrier websites. If it doesn't work out then see if you can try out AT&T. If you are friendly and you let the reps know your intentions maybe they will work with you. T-Mobile is cheaper than AT&T last time I checked so that's definitely a plus.
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My suggestion would be to try T-Mobile first. See how it works out for you at home and at your job, or other places where it might be important to you to have good reception. Check the coverage maps on the respective carrier websites. If it doesn't work out then see if you can try out AT&T. If you are friendly and you let the reps know your intentions maybe they will work with you. T-Mobile is cheaper than AT&T last time I checked so that's definitely a plus.
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Thanks for the reply. Before I head out to T-mobile, I heard that the dev. edition doesn't support HSPA+ nor 1700Mhz for LTE speed. So if I do get a plan, I wonder if I'll end up with EDGE. Is that possible?
logic onlinwt
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Thanks for the reply. Before I head out to T-mobile, I heard that the dev. edition doesn't support HSPA+ nor 1700Mhz for LTE speed. So if I do get a plan, I wonder if I'll end up with EDGE. Is that possible?
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Btw I live in the Chicago suburbs, and when I checked the 1900Mhz coverage on the T-mobile site, it was spotty all around the suburbs.
According to the article below it should support at least HSPA+ when using T-Mobile. Give the article a read.
Source.
elementur said:
According to the article below it should support at least HSPA+ when using T-Mobile. Give the article a read.
Thanks, I'm actually on my way to the store now.
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Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
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Knowing that AT&T locks their bootloaders (bastards), I'd like to get a version with an unlocked bootloader that I can mod, swap ROMs, etc.
I've found lots of 32gb versions, but I can't find many 64gb versions out there except those that are ~$1200 and I just can't spend that.
Wondering how others are solving this and getting their hands on one that's AT&T LTE friendly...
Thanks!
edit: also, if you knew a model #, that would be helpful as I'm a bit confused on all the variations.
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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T-Mobile (N920T) is probably the best, simplest choice. you can sign up for new service, purchase at full price, root it, get it sim unlocked using a root method (search xda) or hassle with T-Mobile and then cancel once you have it SIM unlocked. N920I also works but it's an international model. i'm using the N920T and the dual-sim N9208 on att and both work flawlessly. search-xda is your friend, you'll find all the answers you're looking for. good luck
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Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
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I just bought an N920i on eBay. It arrives tomorrow. Excited!
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Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
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Thanks. I'm leaning that way, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth on T-Mobile and their willingness to unlock. Just looking for other routes and then compare pricing
Interested to hear how it goes for you. Keep in touch!
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I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
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I bought an N920T for use on at&t. here is a lengthy discussion about the potential drawbacks to the missing bands when using a tmo on att. TL/DR; on that one is that you might not get service in the boonies using a tmo on att; i haven't ever had a problem with my tmo note 4 in over a year on att.
here is a guy that can provide free SIM unlock (he's fixing to do mine in about 2 hours. many have reported success with him.) in fact i bought a tmo phone under the premise he'd be able to help me, as TMO will make a big fuss about helping you.
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Thanks for the reference thread. I've been searching, but didn't come across that one. I've downloaded the app and unfortunately, it looks like 17 is my primary band at my office. I'll keep it up and will monitor across the city. Very helpful!
I did find the unlocker's thread and am watching there as well. Let me know how it goes for you.
he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Eek!
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he unlocked with no problems.. having trouble getting an LTE band tho.
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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
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Just wanted to see how it's going for you. I've been monitoring my bands here in DC and I'm pretty much always on 17. 4 is here, but looks pretty light and sparse
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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thanks for quoting me; i had lost this thread, and there are updates:
there was nothing wrong with the process @stifilz used to unlock the phone. the problem was that my IMEI wasn't recognized by AT&T, so they wouldn't send me LTE service. but i got that straight.
it appears i use primarily bands 4 and 5 here.
ooo so band 17.. you are speaking about an AT&T phone huh?? that's not as good, as there is some debate as to whether or not a TMOBILE phone will receive at&t's band 17 correctly. i think i already linked that thread previously, so you might re-read that to see if it'll provide an issue for you.
cheapest, tho not the easiest, way for you to figure out if you'll have problems is to find a person using an unlocked TMO phone and put your sim card in it, and then see if it gets LTE (particularly band 17)
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Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
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Good to hear. AT&T made that same mistake with my OPO. Always a chuckle when you know more than the service reps.
Yeah, I've been checking LTE discovery anytime I go anywhere different in DC and it's always band 17 which the TMO version doesn't have. There is band 4 here, but it's considerably less frequent and a much weaker signal. So, that likely means that I'll get spotty LTE service most of the time and have extra battery suck as it works to switch between LTE and 3G. Not sure it's worth it since I'm pretty constantly on the move...
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go
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Well there's a guy in a thread iposted about earlier in the Q&A section that spoke up to say his tmobile note 5 does connect to 17 all the time, I'm waiting on his response as to whether that's AT&T band 17 or t-mobile band 17. ( I don't know if there is a difference or if it makes a difference)
Might still be a go
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I think that's gotta be a mistake. According to TMO's site, it doesn't have LTE 17 and they're standard frequencies.
But, the question for me will be how strong LTE4 is. It might be enough. I'm trying to figure out how to disable 17 on my OPO for testing...
band 17, at&t!
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I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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band 17, at&t!
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Wait, what?
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Wait, what?
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intifadamericana said:
I can confirm that I have a tmobile branded unit that attaches to band 17. It isn't as frequently as on my note 4, I'm generally on band 2. With that said I've had virtually no trouble with service. I was initially worried about the b17 issue, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.
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Does it attach to band 17 on AT&T or t-mobile?
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I use Cricket, so AT&T.
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That all took place in this thread.
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That all took place in this thread.
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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Interesting, but I'm not sure I'm buying it - take a look at TMO's spec sheet - http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note5.html
Doesn't list Band 17.
I think I'll need some corroboration on that...
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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i'll look; yeah i mean dude only has 3 posts ever, so who knows.
maybe i'll prompt him to make a screen shot
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I posted at him as well, but didn't think about a screenshot. Good idea.