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I have a milestone xt720 I want know if this phone can view 720p videos cause I tried watching 720p HD bids online but I only get sound do I need the new update that's not out in the USA now that has flash 10.
tyronekndrck said:
I have a milestone xt720 I want know if this phone can view 720p videos cause I tried watching 720p HD bids online but I only get sound do I need the new update that's not out in the USA now that has flash 10.
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try with RockPlayer or VPlayer.
maybe it is not possible to view it online.
At this moment in time, can the rooted Nook color play 720p .mkv videos as well as the Galaxy tab?
I just got the SGT and all of my 720p .mkv videos play buttery smooth and with great blu-ray-like clarity.
Can the nook do this yet?
I am planning to buy another used Samsung Galaxy Tab for my father who loves to watch HD videos. Should I buy a brand new nook color and root the heck out of it in order to play 720p .mkv videos or should I just buy another $400 slightly used SGT and know that it will play 720p .mkv movies out of the box?
Yes it will play it just as smoooth with the stock rom rooted.
Keep in mind that the screen is 1024 x 600 , So the screen is not 720p(1280x720). Its the same with the Tab
I had NC with Cyanogen Mod 7. I couldn't get 720p to work on it.
Now that my NC got broken, I'm thinking of buying it again. Is there anything new about 720p?
i'd like to know too. as from the day after tomorrow i will be a Nook owner too
In this price range you're still not going to find a decent tablet with 720p capabilities. If your only goal is videos, start taking a look at the chinese tablets and the archos. If you want a tablet with the ability to do it, but not perfectly, then the nook is your best choice.
I say not perfectly, as I found that 720p video was better on the .29kernel (1300mhz) with Moboplayer. 720p works okay with overclock and Moboplayer on the .32 kernel though...
That said, 720p is overkill for that small of a screen.
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I would see the tablet being worth it if it was 1080p but I'm not sure aboutv720
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Um what? ----
Basically no, there isn't any news on the video playback front. The new B&N update's codec had the same file limitations that we had previously, so we lack the codecs for 720p (like an Archos has).
If you want 720p playback get a used Galaxy Tab.
It really isn't a problem for me to watch 720p on NC's screen, but if it was able to do it, it would save the hassle of converting the videos and movies I download for my PC.
I will try moboplayer with OC.
wajed said:
It really isn't a problem for me to watch 720p on NC's screen, but if it was able to do it, it would save the hassle of converting the videos and movies I download for my PC.
I will try moboplayer with OC.
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At least 1350 isn't enough to run 720p videos. I tried to set up tversity but couldn't get it to transcode.. Didn't feel like setting up either of the free alternatives either, lots of fuzzing with config files..
Technical question for you re-encoding guys. Does the 854 limit count after or before anamorphic scaling? So is it possible to play back pal 2.3 picture format movies? Native resolution 720x445, stretches to 1024 wide on-screen..
I have the Tab 8.9 P7310 WiFi and the 10.1 P7500 3G.
I thought that both tabs share the same innards (aside from the obvious screen and 3G difference)...
But when I play a video the 10.1 plays it fine where the 8.9 gives me a stuttering experience.
Both tablets run stock HC3.2. Same effect with stock 3.1 on the 8.9...
What am I missing ? I'm confused...
Thanks for your thoughts.
Flip both Tabs to portrait mode. Watch the 10.1 start to struggle while the 8.9 does better.
It's a Honeycomb issue...but basically, the 10.1 is landscape biased, the 8.9 is portrait biased.
Interesting...
Did not know about this horizontal/vertical issue... Any chance to circumvent this?
So a Rom designed for the 10.1 should not have this issue on the 8.9?
Maybe the Overcome Rom?
I don't see a difference
Landscape or portrait mode: the video always stutters on the 8.9...
It drives me crazy, because I bought the 8.9 mainly for watching movies... Grrrrrrrrr...
what video player are you using? I use MoboPlayer and it doesn't stutter on my 8.9
Also that depends on the video, the tegra2 platform cannot handle AAC High profile videos.
It's not about the Tegra2 performance...
The Video plays fine on ALL players on the 10.1. Same Video on the 8.9 is almost unwatchable because of the stuttering.
Normally I use Dice Player or MX Video Player...
I did encode the Video especially for the Tegra platform. So all the H.264 parameters lie within the specifications...
I don't know if it applies to the model you are dealing with, but the ATT LTE 8.9 Galaxy Tab does not use a Tegra chip at all.
The new ATT LTE 4g 8.9 Galaxy Tab uses a 1.5 ghz dual core qualcomm snapdragon chip.
From what I have heard though, the Verizon version uses the same ol' tegra 2 1ghz dual core that is in all the rest.
That's because of the LTE...
The WiFi and 3G versions definitely use the Tegra2 chip...
I think the video performance of the qualcomm should be better...
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The WiFi and 3G versions definitely use the Tegra2 chip...
I think the video performance of the qualcomm should be better...
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i have had no issues (LTE)
i have my 8.9 wifi (not LTE) OC to 1.5 and i still get a choopy video in mkv
and i tried a lot of players with thier arm v7 codec
@sbtgn1: Can you compare it to the GTab 10.1? For me it's like having two very different machines...
Did some extensive video tests with my LTE 8.9 over the weekend.
This sucker is amazing, with hardware acceleration for mpeg4 based videos, I am able to play back 1080 bluray mkv rips that are between 7 and 10 gb's without problem, color me surprised!
I found BSPlayer to be the best player for me, mostly because it supports all the hardware acceleration in the LTE, and also supports browsing windows file shares right in the app itself.
BSPlayer is one of the only video apps that has built in file share access, and is the only one that would stream 10 gb+ files from my file server without constantly buffering and dropping frames.
BSPlayer is sure a...
... good player but the Gtab 8.9 LTE is based on different hardware as mentioned some posts above...
It's not utilizing the Tegra2 SOC.
My problem is the very different behavior of the 10.1 vs 8.9.
The 10.1 plays all my encoded videos perfectly whereas the 8.9 does only stutter...
Even SD content with h.264 main profile does not play okay...
Any more news about this? I am about to order a 8.9 wifi tab but this thread got me worried.
kallt_kaffe said:
Any more news about this? I am about to order a 8.9 wifi tab but this thread got me worried.
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Hi, you are in Sweden?? Then buy the SGT 8.9 LTE by Telia which is equal, to the hardware level, to the SGH-i957 AT&T is talking about modestone.
modestone says that the SGH-i957 AT&T is very very good to play videos.
Max
Nope...
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Any more news about this? I am about to order a 8.9 wifi tab but this thread got me worried.
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...the 8.9 still struggels with video... So I always use the 10.1 - what a shame...
Buy the LTE version if possible!!!
Ikaro said:
Hi, you are in Sweden?? Then buy the SGT 8.9 LTE by Telia which is equal, to the hardware level, to the SGH-i957 AT&T is talking about modestone.
modestone says that the SGH-i957 AT&T is very very good to play videos.
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Well, the only reason I'm considering buying one is that the Wifi versions of the 8.9 and 10.1 right now are on sale for €300 for the 8.9 version and the €350 for the 10.1 version. The 8.9 LTE is about €650.
I want the 8.9 for the smaller form factor but I'm surprised about this reports that it playback video worse than the 10.1. The hardware specs should be identical so that is very strange and unpexpected. Sounds like a software issue unless it really is a hardware difference.
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...the 8.9 still struggels with video... So I always use the 10.1 - what a shame...
Buy the LTE version if possible!!!
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LTE would be nice but too expensive. The 10.1 wifi goes for €350 but I worry that I may find it a bit to large.
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Well, the only reason I'm considering buying one is that the Wifi versions of the 8.9 and 10.1 right now are on sale for €300 for the 8.9 version and the €350 for the 10.1 version. The 8.9 LTE is about €650.
I want the 8.9 for the smaller form factor but I'm surprised about this reports that it playback video worse than the 10.1. The hardware specs should be identical so that is very strange and unpexpected. Sounds like a software issue unless it really is a hardware difference.
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LTE would be nice but too expensive. The 10.1 wifi goes for €350 but I worry that I may find it a bit to large.
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Unfortunately I think its hardware problem. Tegra 2 has a known problem of not being smooth when tab is held in portrait, all Tegra 2 tabs have this problem. Problem with our GT8.9 is that the screen is rotated 90 degrees so we have this problem in landscape.
And yes, the form factor of the GT8.9 is much better then 10.1
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... good player but the Gtab 8.9 LTE is based on different hardware as mentioned some posts above...
It's not utilizing the Tegra2 SOC.
My problem is the very different behavior of the 10.1 vs 8.9.
The 10.1 plays all my encoded videos perfectly whereas the 8.9 does only stutter...
Even SD content with h.264 main profile does not play okay...
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Sorry steel, in my SGT 10.1 only h.264 baseline profile videos play smooth (and a few other video in high profile).
Have you tried to play videos baseline profile in the SGT 8.9 to see how it behaves??
Max
Baseline Profile...
Ikaro said:
Sorry steel, in my SGT 10.1 only h.264 baseline profile videos play smooth (and a few other video in high profile).
Have you tried to play videos baseline profile in the SGT 8.9 to see how it behaves??
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... plays smooth on the 8.9 in 720p (haven't tried 1080p). But not using CABAC wastes a lot of hdd space... The movies are about 1/3 bigger...
But the difference is still night and day compared to the 10.1...
I just don't get it:
If the problem is related to screen orientation diffenrence between 10.1 and 8.9 shouldn't the 10.1 start to stutter when held in portrait? But that is not the case...
Ok i'm a touch confused and on the cusp of blowing my bonus on the 8.9!
Can it play back HD video content well? I'm not planning huge movie sessions but a lot of my tv these days is mkv 720 rather than SD and I will be planning to watch things in bed/on the train to work etc
Can it handle 1080 at all?
Searching the forums the answer seems yes & no. ICS and we should be onto a winner but my god I'm
I've got a galaxy sII and it's brilliant.
which 8.9 version do you plan on getting? If it is the LTE, this thread should clear up the video performance question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422072
also, this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400657
I'm going for just the wifi version, when you say LTE I'm again a little confused is that the 3g one or a diff chipset on the wifi? Or is that the graphics chipset? The 7310 is the wifi correct? That's the one I'm looking at.
I'm in the uk if that makes any difference, looking at most of the specs on offer it's proving a nightmare to figure out via companies webpages which version it is! I've seen a few as 7310a...
Getting it with 3g seems a touch redudant when I can just use my galaxy sII as a wireless hub if needs be.
You'd never guess I'm normally good at this stuff, there jsut seems a tonne of differing information on this.
based on my experience...
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I'm going for just the wifi version, when you say LTE I'm again a little confused is that the 3g one or a diff chipset on the wifi? Or is that the graphics chipset? The 7310 is the wifi correct? That's the one I'm looking at.
I'm in the uk if that makes any difference, looking at most of the specs on offer it's proving a nightmare to figure out via companies webpages which version it is! I've seen a few as 7310a...
Getting it with 3g seems a touch redudant when I can just use my galaxy sII as a wireless hub if needs be.
You'd never guess I'm normally good at this stuff, there jsut seems a tonne of differing information on this.
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Ok Shadey1, these are the differences:
SGT P7300/7310 = SOC tegra 2 = big problems with video HD (h.264) and BIG BIG problems with FullHD
SGT i957 = SOC Snapdragon = NO PROBLEMS with video HD (any) and I have yet to try FullHD (but they are very hopeful)
SGT P7320 = SGT i957
and again
SGT (samsung galaxy tab) i957 is USA version with 4G (or LTE) and new SOC snapdragon
SGT P7320 should be european version with 4G (or LTE) and new SOC snapdragon (for example, sold in Sweden but not in the UK)
SGT P7300/7310 is european (and others countrys) version with SOC tegra 2
P.S. tonight I check the compatibility of my i957 and FullHD video, so I update this message
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You sure the 7320 is the exact same as the 957?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
So I when you say that the 7300/7310 will not play h.264 or Full HD, but on Samsung's website it states:
"1080p playback, 3GP, MP4, AVI, WMV, FLV, MKV (Codec: MPEG4, H.263, Sorenson H.263, H.264, VC-1"
What videos are talking about that are h.264 vs above? Is it blu ray rips, self encoded videos, just trying to figure this out?
So in short if I want a wifi only version I'm stuck with Tegra 2, and the only way that's playing my 720+ files is if I root and ICS the thing...
Well I'd have ended up doing that anyway knowing me, so maybe i'm not that far up the creek.
Thanks for all the info.
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So I when you say that the 7300/7310 will not play h.264 or Full HD, but on Samsung's website it states:
"1080p playback, 3GP, MP4, AVI, WMV, FLV, MKV (Codec: MPEG4, H.263, Sorenson H.263, H.264, VC-1"
What videos are talking about that are h.264 vs above? Is it blu ray rips, self encoded videos, just trying to figure this out?
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i have the tegra version. (rooted, ics, overclocked) i can play most 720p material without problems. tried various different stuff and it all worked pretty well. even streaming over my homenetwork.
1080p is iffy. sometimes works sometimes doesn't seems to depend on the bitrate.
but as i said 720p works fine for me.
i've 7310 rooted with ics oc to 1.4
and tv shows on 720p plays fine but movies on 720p can get laggy sometimes.
frankly i am a bit disaapointed.
Sigh, I went and saw one in the flesh yesterday I really like it, but if there is such an issue with hd content it's really putting me off. Obviously it's the higher bitrate stuff that causes it so I doubt most of my tv stuff would cause issues but it's disappointing.
I have realized that this high profile issue seems to plague pretty much all Tegra 2 tablets, meaning pretty much most on the market right now. So it is either get a TF Prime(which has Tegra 3) or wait for something better to come along.
There is also the I957 option which in the US, is the Tab 8.9 4G version from AT&T. It is 16GB, but has a Snapdragon S3 and I have read it has no problems with video.
The only thing keeping me from going that route is the dev support, there is more with the P7300/P7310 than there are with the I957, there isn't even a ROM. Only root, kernal, and recovery, I believe.
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sbtgn1 said:
i've 7310 rooted with ics oc to 1.4
and tv shows on 720p plays fine but movies on 720p can get laggy sometimes.
frankly i am a bit disaapointed.
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Did you mean it plays all 720P fine, but 1080P is laggy?
I use mobo or vplayer for HD. Works fine for blue ray ripped content.
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qhinton said:
I use mobo or vplayer for HD. Works fine for blue ray ripped content.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
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AODfan said:
I have realized that this high profile issue seems to plague pretty much all Tegra 2 tablets, meaning pretty much most on the market right now. So it is either get a TF Prime(which has Tegra 3) or wait for something better to come along.
There is also the I957 option which in the US, is the Tab 8.9 4G version from AT&T. It is 16GB, but has a Snapdragon S3 and I have read it has no problems with video.
The only thing keeping me from going that route is the dev support, there is more with the P7300/P7310 than there are with the I957, there isn't even a ROM. Only root, kernal, and recovery, I believe.
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Did you mean it plays all 720P fine, but 1080P is laggy?
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If it's blatantly a tegra 2 issue I'm tempted to wait on the next 8.9 tablet, though if it works with ICS and little to no issues wehn oc'd i'm tempted to bite the bullet now!
I went ahead and ordered one from Amazon - 7310 32G for $419. It will be here tomorrow since I have "Prime." I'll try a variety of players once I get it.
Same here,i tried moboplayer,mx Player rockplayer and none of dem can get My mkv to work without lags.
In the rendering settings i only can Set sw-rendering, hardwarerendering isnt choosable
Hmm which ics Rom shall i take for.best playbackperformance?
One thing I've read is it seems to vary on the playback depending on the bitrate of the file, so 2 or3 different files and let them play out. see what happens then?
Galaxian Soup seems one of the best options from what I'm reading.
Any update AODfan?
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I have realized that this high profile issue seems .
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Did you mean it plays all 720P fine, but 1080P is laggy?
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720p tv shows are fine ,720p movies can get laggy some times
1080p did not manage to play even once
sbtgn1 said:
720p tv shows are fine ,720p movies can get laggy some times
1080p did not manage to play even once
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This basically puts me off the Tab 8.9, I'm not so fussed about 1080 but 720 covers far too much of my tv rendering it uselss for watching on the train, in bed etc.
Roll on the next gen or the LTE.
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This basically puts me off the Tab 8.9, I'm not so fussed about 1080 but 720 covers far too much of my tv rendering it uselss for watching on the train, in bed etc.
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i didn't experience any lag watching 720p movie the other day. my tab is OC'd to 1,5ghz though which could be playing a part.